My pan has a drain that exits to outside the house. If this guy had one it may have prevented all that water damage
@powersb3 ай бұрын
This is why I wouldn’t ever want a house with furnace and/or an AC above a ceiling. Mine just drains into a floor drain
@myHVAClife3 ай бұрын
S$#T happens sometimes. We have had it happen a few times. If it is one of our installs, we cover the repairs for the homeowner. It is the right thing to do. We also in an attic, especially on an up flow, always use the secondary drain port on the coil to run an overflow line directly to the emergency pan so that when the primary clogs the water goes from the primary pan straight to the emergency pan and not down through the furnace to cause equipment damage or to be sucked in to the blower. The water usually puddles in the bottom of the blower housing. I see so many people that do not use that for what it is there for. No reason to risk flooding the equipment if it can be prevented. Just my opinion.
@joeshearer12473 ай бұрын
I quit using those float switches they let the water get real high before cuttting off and It looks like it wasn’t fully seated down and not in the lowest spot
@sknight03913 ай бұрын
Choir boy approved. 💦💦💦 Jon loves moist videos like this one. 😎👍
@bizzfo3 ай бұрын
I never did understand HVAC units being put in the attic.
@Eddy633 ай бұрын
We didn't get to see what happened to the old float switch ... Oh well ... Thx for posting
@billc49933 ай бұрын
What happened to the post-mortem? Inquiring minds want to know.
@davidtedore37063 ай бұрын
I've had installer over years forget to remove the knock out on the evap. coil before installing the pvc but I also don't like the fact that the aux pan did not have a secondary drain line I know you had a float switch installed but you see what happens when they fail.
@2packs4sure3 ай бұрын
I've never started using those encased fancy float switches. I used the white Beckett with arm, float, and microswitch til the bitter end (1988-2016) and they never got stuck,, they just worked,,,, cheap and they worked....
@cypeman80373 ай бұрын
Why not drain the pan straight to the outside? I know people will say the float switch should turn of the machinery, but it didn't. I would install a small container in the tray with the float attached, if you must have one, monitoring the small container. If the float failed the small container would overflow and go down the drain installed in the larger tray to the outside.
@peterhodgkins69853 ай бұрын
Hey - We didn't get to see the autopsy on the failed switch! ;)
@search_eternal3 ай бұрын
IMO, it's best to have 2 switches on a attic system. One in the over flow pan and one on the secondary drain. Even better have a wet switch in the pan also.
@ThierryC23732 ай бұрын
That's the reason why I refused to install my unit in the attic last time I changed it in Florida... in the garage it goes. There is no logical reason to place these units in the attic anyway, the air is way too hot, it is difficult to access and to maintain and so on.
@billkunert72812 ай бұрын
This is a general comment. I've seen several times when you were ohming a high resistance circuit and you were touching both leads with your hands. This will put the resistance of your body in parallel with the resistance you are measuring and give a lower than true reading. This was from several years ago as I had not seen any of your recent posts. Not try to butt in but I've had 45 years electronic experience with the USAF and as a Xerox tech rep. Really enjoy your videos and have learned quite a bit from them.
@devnull75502 ай бұрын
It probably doesn't matter for most HVAC-related resistance measurements. A person's hand-to-hand resistance can be a few kilohms to a few megohms depending on the person and how wet or sweaty they are. A kilohm in parallel with a 20-ohm contactor coil, for example, would cause less than half an ohm of measurement error.
@JimN_AustinTx2 ай бұрын
99% of the time if your ohming something out it’s looking for outright shorts or opens. The few times you’d measuring low resistance like coil resistance your body in parallel with something under 10 ohms will only add noise to your measurement. A Don’t care. Yes for absolute numbers it makes a difference.
@sadams1352 ай бұрын
ive been using this method of clearing drain pans for a couple years thanks to your videos and i just have to say, thank you!
@charlesharris40213 ай бұрын
I was really hoping to see what was inside of the flow switch keeping it from working.
@alanbennett1333 ай бұрын
We stopped using those after several wet ceilings. Those and those bulldog ones. High fail rate. Went back to the cheap ones.
@jadney3 ай бұрын
Is it possible that forcing the float switch down on that thick lip deformed the plastic in some way that caused the float switch to stick?
@martinmcquaide48072 ай бұрын
Sometimes builders (to save money) put very shallow crawl spaces, forcing attic installation. Got to lift the unit high enough to drain into a pump, and utilize wiring for high level cut-off. Also pan needs separate gravity drain so owner knows somethings up if he see water coming out.
@sknight03913 ай бұрын
18:16 I'm glad that pan was the only thing with a big fat lip after all that water came down on the ceiling. Ted mighta ended up with a big fat lip. 🥊😎👍
@TedCookHVAC2 ай бұрын
LoL
@jimoakley34363 ай бұрын
She a pumper mama !
@MsJherrington14 күн бұрын
My HVAC installed unit Float switch failed inside the Air Handler and flooded the floors. HVAC Company came out, cleared the lines and did no other modifications or backups, had to subrogate the claim with my homeowners in order to be made whole. 8 months later, the EXACT same issue, however, this time, they REFUSE to take accountability for the water damage and have DROPPED me as a client over a 2 year old unit that they installed brand new. I am investigating the best courses of action at this time.
@devnull75502 ай бұрын
This illustrates well why a single float switch doesn't provide adequate condensate overflow protection. In my own home, I use SS 103E dual sensor electronic overflow switches. There's no mechanical float to get stuck, and it has two sensors. One sensor goes either in the drain line or at the evaporator drain pan's auxiliary port, and the other sensor goes in the drain pan under the furnace or air handler. If my furnace drain pan didn't have its own drain line, I'd probably install a conventional float switch in series with the SS 103E for protection against a failure of the SS 103E's electronics. I'd never trust a single layer of protection.
@Boraxo3 ай бұрын
If ya don't double pan, at least 2 switches.
@JohnSmith-ug5ci3 ай бұрын
Big insurance claim.
@nomusicrc3 ай бұрын
Last YOU DIDN'T TAKE THE SWITCH APART
@Chevroldsmobuiac2 ай бұрын
The original installers for my attic unit chose not to glue together the sections of PVC drain line. No problem until my son, who was about five at the time, saw fit to pack the drain output with mud when he saw water coming out of it. As the drain line filled up with water, one PVC section in the attic pulled loose, and soaked a significant amount of drywall on the second floor until we figured it out. In that case, the secondary drain pan didn't do us much good. Took a bit of detective work! 😄 Glued the lines together myself and replaced the drywall and no more problems for many years. We can laugh about it now.
@WillPlaysGames19933 ай бұрын
sounds like the bearings in you vac needs greased i had a shop vac that sounded like that so i took it apart and greased the bearings to the point it sounded brand new but im use to tear things apart to fix them since i used to do it as a kid and still do it now that im 31
@jgarmer3 ай бұрын
gone are the days of the 40ft siphon hose to a bathroom sink
@Garth20112 ай бұрын
Maybe two float switches would help in those cases. In watching the many HVAC channels, it sure seems that condensate drain pan plumbing gets clogged up OFTEN. Is that due to the junk and dust that forms in the pan then gets into the PVC and elbows or is that simply hard water minerals that are forming? I wouldn't think that condensate has any hard water mineral effects. Love that strong pump and the pickup device by Lav/Cook.
@bladedspokesАй бұрын
This is why you never, ever put an HVAC system in the attic.
@skatesuter53962 ай бұрын
@ 3:33 there appears to be a small rectangle of something in the water under the switch that may have blocked the switch from functioning.
@CharlesAnsman3 ай бұрын
Sys. Iced up, then thawed, overflowing the pan ? Aux. pan should have been piped out also
@sergioblanco45042 ай бұрын
I wonder why that AC let out all that water to begin with. Could it be low on refrigerant and caused the coil to ice up?
@Mark.Watson3 ай бұрын
Why was the pipe blocked? I see the insulation that came out, but that was probably in the pan.
@Austin231913 ай бұрын
Look into the Diversitech WS-1 wet switch. It has worked out really well for us and trips after just a few drips of water.
@robalexander73483 ай бұрын
Well Ted, lets hope that cures their water problem 🤔 Au
@tonymartin92712 ай бұрын
Had that same float stick on me a couple weeks ago... water damage to the ceiling as well. I won't use them anymore
@mcroley59122 күн бұрын
It’s irresponsible for a contractor to not install a separate drain for the overflow pan. Relying on a pan switch is just crazy.
@boeing757pilot2 ай бұрын
Why aren't two switches installed for redundancy? Seems like cheap insurance...
@joemcfarland34913 ай бұрын
I think that's why I like the SS-2 Float switch.
@azcatfan35442 ай бұрын
Why isn’t it code to have a backup drain out of the pan if put in an attic? Would have saved thousands of dollars.
@chesstime3563 ай бұрын
Nice video man as always
@anthonybuonagurio-gl9bg3 ай бұрын
I would hold who ever put the overflow switch accountable for the damage. Never tested the switch. And an outsidec drain without a screen over the end to prevent anything from crawling into it and closing the line.
@kyle_1872 ай бұрын
Whats the name of that metal thing you put at the end of the tubing? Need to get one for my setup lol
@gvnumber32002 ай бұрын
Curious if Mr. Cook pays for the damage,due to the failed float-switch…..or is he not responsible because the Homeowner didn’t maintain the Primary Drain Line?
@TedCookHVAC2 ай бұрын
Yes I will pay for the repairs.
@tomshelnutt22562 ай бұрын
Quit using those switches a couple years ago because of so many failures. Plus there are better switches at half the price
@montanadan25242 ай бұрын
So did you have to repair the damage as your equipment was at fault?
@markcotter23553 ай бұрын
dang drain problems. I dislike that kind of problem. had one yesterday and it was the evaporator pan inside the air handler broken pan. Then a piece of debris got in the secondary drain pipe and it overfilled like that one.
@Hvacnc2 ай бұрын
What wet vac hose can I use ( have the Milwaukee pack out edition ) and the end is too big for the green adapter
@w5cdt2 ай бұрын
The entire condensate drain system is not engineered for reliability. They all stink. We should be able to do better.
@gregpaterson3302 ай бұрын
Could you set a camera outside at the drain and see on your phone if it’s flowing
@AMDRADEONRUBY2 ай бұрын
A furnace place is in the basement...
@tacocin3 ай бұрын
Been there. Not pretty. Did you find anything interesting in the old float switch?
@zackmax71843 ай бұрын
As Steve Lav says, they .might have a Leaka Momma.
@dadefope803 ай бұрын
"She's a leeka mamma, She's a leeka!"
@MKOMKONNNN2 ай бұрын
ole chliren with caulk palyin like ole times oh my make my heart heart run warm america style get out the marbles
@sziltner3 ай бұрын
So, was the float switch plugged?
@KevinDexterBarnes3 ай бұрын
Dude y were u playing with the gunk?
@Look_What_You_Did2 ай бұрын
0:17 Defaced flag on the lawn. "Sorry we are booked up. Call back in a week and we will see if we can get you on the schedule"
@gerardomireles1223 ай бұрын
Helicopter 🚁
@gocubsgo50553 ай бұрын
Preventative Maintenance
@kevincampbell72762 ай бұрын
Hey just letting you know that PVC glue you use is really good stuff just in a few seconds it's dry and in 1 minute it is solid as concrete you have good taste