Florida woman being sued for putting concrete in neighborhood storm drain

People living in the ShadowBay neighborhood of Longwood say this week marked the third time the streets have flooded like this in just the past few weeks. Now, one neighbor could wind up owing thousands of dollars because of it.
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[@DD-pt9qw]

Why do they fail to mention in this video that the city installed the storm drain LONG before she bought the house. 🤦‍♀️

[@victorialawhon2251]

That's pretty important

[@XSemperIdem5]

I was wondering that. If it was already there, I don't see why she suddenly had such an issue with it. She mentioned erosion but this seems like something that could have been properly addressed, although likely slowly because it is government departments we're talking about here.

[@walnutkraken9430]

Wait, you expect honesty and transparency from the media? Not gonna happen

[@rustyjenkins6997]

@@XSemperIdem5 She is wanting to extort $$$ for it passing through her property

[@Wowdude.]

~ because they don't want you knowing facts. They just want you to believe whatever narrative they stick in front your face.

[@Lone_Star_Proud]

The same kind of person that would complain about the plane noise after moving next door to an airport.

[@smorgasbroad1132]

Haha. Yep.

[@EmperorNefarious1]

A neighborhood was built next to a school near me and now that school gets noise complaints. I'm sure the people who buy the houses being built near the old quarry will complain as well.

[@reverbscherzo7850]

"They're flying over my house without my permission!"

[@JenGM24]

You know how it goes... That airport was built around the house, So the airport has to go🤡

[@OJdidit93905]

Or living next to a race track look up Laguna Seca lawsuit. Home owners who built and purchased homes across the road from the race track want it shut down because of the noise. The track was there before the homes were built.

[@thatmitsubishikid2498]

She’s the kinda women to move next to a lake and proceed to get mad at the wildlife around it

[@rdl8878]

Or move next to a farm and complain about the smell.

[@sanellis52]

@@rdl8878or an airport and complain about the plans.

[@scarletwitch6023]

Or be the type of Karen to try and stop ppl from using the lake bc she thinks it’s hers. I can picture her calling the cops “there are ppl fishing on MY lake” 😂😂

[@rdl8878]

@@scarletwitch6023 a former neighbour claimed the street in front of his house for his personal parking space. He didn’t want to get his driveway dirty so he parked on the street. His car got vandalized one night.

[@robertslugg8361]

@@scarletwitch6023 The old rule in Maine is that if someone could hit your boat with a rock, your boat was too close to the shore. New Yorkers would rent a cabin and then decide to canoe 10 ft off the shoreline to look at other people's property. The next night they were about 50 yards off the shoreline.

[@robertgodlewski8553]

This woman is an example of why we have problems in the United States.

[@AlisonCasilli]

@@ricksmith4736 I am betting that all of your forefathers were closely related.

[@ploppill34]

You’re not even trying at this point😂😂😂😂

[@ploppill34]

@@ricksmith4736 thank you I needed a really good laugh at your expense😂😂😂😂😂

[@longsleevethong1457]

She’s a realtor in Orlando

[@waynepalmer6949]

It really gives you guys a bad look

[@WvvwvvwwVvwwvwv]

She filled it up with cement and told everyone she did it. Wow

[@doom4067]

She even announced it ahead of time and explained what was going to happen. One thing she didn't consider was if the law requires her to leave the edge of the property available for things like this; I bet it does.

[@panda4757]

Karen wanted her house to flood

[@DS-182]

​@doom4067 it's pretty much across the board that the 1st 10 feet of your lawn the city can do what ever they want.. not only can they add a sidewalk to your yard, they'll make you pay for a portion of it

[@gigaus0]

Yep. Welcome to Florida; This is the insanity you can expect.

[@Kabab]

What a G. 😂

[@MrMultiB]

"I don't want erosion on my property." Now it's the whole neighborhood AND her house

[@riggs20]

Right? I was thinking, “How’s that property erosion going for you now?” 😏

[@nathaniellampman2052]

She could have built a stone wall to prevent erosion would have been cheaper and easier.

[@velvetchiharu]

She literally sent a letter out saying her future actions would back the water up on the road, other’s property and HER PROPERTY. Because she didn’t want erosion on her property,, isn’t that flooding a problem for her property? Plus she did this in an HOA neighborhood which just compounds the already legitimate legal issues her actions present. I don’t think she’s doing right mentally, she’s either naturally very stupid or suffering some kind of concerning cognitive decline because all of her decisions make very little sense from doing this in the first place to sending out mail that clearly implicates herself and thinking that random neighbors would pay her to not do this?? Or compensate her for having drainage on her property?? To creating a more damaging situation and saying it’s because of erosion? Her brain is not working too well. ☹️☹️

[@Legacy_125]

If a pipe was put on her property without her permission, then the concrete hazard can be removed without her permission. Followed by taking the steps necessary to avoid erosion on her property.

[@pete_lind]

@@Legacy_125 She accused HOA installing drainage pipe on her property , she send those letters in March , in April she hired a crew to fill it up. The 1980s, a developer separated the houses on one side of the street from the HOA and created an easement to run a drainage pipe between these two homes. So the draining pipe has been there since Reagan was president , long before she bought the property.

[@robertplatt643]

She should be arrested for destroying public infrastructure. Those pipes might need to be replaced and that's gigantic money.

[@brt5273]

Agreed! Regardless if it was within the boundary line of her property, it's public infrastructure that she VANDALIZED and is causing damage to many more residents. Should gave already been arrested, the problem fixed by the city and cost to repair added to her fines

[@fishydubsfishing6516]

How could you be responsible for destroying something on your property

[@robertplatt1693]

The town has an easement. That's a property right that is superior to the property owner. When the owner bought the property they were made aware of the easement and by signing the purchase agreement they agreed to the easement. The buyer had the opportunity to walk away and didn't.

[@ItsNatalieD]

Oh, boy. She best pray nothing happens to anyone. She could find herself being charged with major crimes.

[@user-ik9kt1gm6z]

As a former Land Survivor I can tell that the storm drain is in the right of way between the road and where her property line begins. While a homeowner is legally responsible for the property up to the edge of the road, their property starts between 10-15 feet from the edge of the roadway depending on the area. She is screwed in court.

[@typeface-um6kl]

And shouldn't the city have an easement? I've got that stuff all over my property, I want to put a driveway on property, the city told me I have to have the drainage checked. And rightly so, that saves me from damaging my neighbors property, and similar rules keep work they do on their yard from damaging mine,

[@user-ik9kt1gm6z]

@@typeface-um6kl an easement is an area usually between two properties meant for use by either homeowners or by the local government to accesses areas or other pieces on property. The right of way is an area between the roadway and front property line. It’s where sidewalks and curbs are located, and is public use. It is bull that (in most states) if someone gets injured in that area they can sue the homeowner. They have to maintain it, such as repairing sidewalks if damaged. But it is still public area. You can’t say people are trespassing if they stand there, or build on the area. If you take a metal detector and measure 10-15 ft from the edge of the road/curb (look on the copy of the survey for distance) you should find a rebar with a plastic cap, or a large concrete monument with a metal plate in the center. That’s one of the front property corners. Of course the corners might not have been set, it’ll say on the copy of the survey.

[@user-ik9kt1gm6z]

@@typeface-um6kl checking the drainage has more to do with how the water flows and where. It’s making sure that the topography of the area is maintained so the water continues to drain properly and doesn’t pool or begin to drain onto other properties.

[@ycplum7062]

Technically, it may be her property, but there is usually an easement some distance (varies by munipality or zoning) from the roadway into the provate property.

[@typeface-um6kl]

@@user-ik9kt1gm6z Thank you for clarifying that, that's what I meant but I lack your expertise.

[@cecilr7986]

According to the stamp on her letter, "the drainage was created in 1981 and predates her ownership.....by 31 years." The drain also predates the building of her home by 12 years. Easement not withstanding it doesn't seem like she has a case.

[@MrNukedawhales]

ok.. heres how i understand it (might be wrong)... the pipes of the drain leak, so her property gets flooded instead of the road. she isnt happy about it and tells the hoa to fix the pipes. they told her, that its her drain and she should fix it herself... so she fixed it by pouring cement in the drain - problem solved. suddenly the hoa thinks they are the owners of the drain and sue her to fix the drain (wonder why they changed their mind.. hm). so if its HER drain on HER property im pretty sure she can fill it with cement all day every day (wether it predates the ownership or not). if the drain belongs to the hoa or city, they should have fixed the pipe to prevent water damage on her property - wouldnt you agree? TLDNR: there are more than one idiot in this story, i think.

[@ryancraythorn8399]

@@MrNukedawhales Its mainly how she handled the situation. She could've gone through the right channels and gotten the city to fix the issue, even if she'd have to sue the city. Instead she took the route she should not have, causing more damage to the drain/piping, which leads to flooding of the neighborhood. Essentially she made her problem everyones problem instead of going after the city to fix the problem. Now the city is going after her and she ruined her chances of getting her problem solved.

[@doom4067]

Not when she told everyone in writing that she was about to flood the neighborhood. @MrNukedawhales it's not the HOA's pipe, and it's not her pipe. It's the local government's pipe. I imagine the HOA simply told her that it isn't their pipe, not that it belonged to her. I haven't seen anything about her going through the city or county, so I assume that she didn't. Sabotaging city drainage is a good way to put yourself on the hook for very expensive repairs.

[@MrNukedawhales]

@@ryancraythorn8399 ? she went "through the right channels". first she told the city to fix it, they told her it is HER drain and she should fix it. then she wrote to the neighbours asking for help paying the repair costs... and they didnt want to help either. so she fixed the problem. why would she have her property damaged, so her neighbours dont get their cars wet? again... if its HER drain on HER property, then she can do whatever she wants... and nobody was willing to help her, neither the city nor the neighbours.. and now they are upset? pathetic. what other "channels" do you think she should have went through before saving her property from damage? how long does she have to wait. again... she MIGHT be in the wrong here... but the city and the neighbours dont look too good either... which is my point.

[@MrNukedawhales]

@@doom4067 again.. IF it belongs to the city, then its not on her property and she is in the wrong... i havent seen any evidence, that it belongs to the city. other question id have are: how long was this going on, before she "took action"? how much damage has been done to her property? e.g. lets say this is going on for 2 years and her cellar is flooded twice a week or there is structural damage to her house... i can see her point.

[@bobandvickiw]

That woman is beyond entitled and ignorant

[@nomusicrc]

You're too too nice she's a Karen and stupid

a true Karen

[@OO-tb4ou]

Still nothing compared to the Karens of color

@@OO-tb4ou They are not called Karens.... I think they are referred to as Shaniquas

[@OO-tb4ou]

I don't like the double standards. A Karen is a Karen, not white lady. we shouldn't blatantly and blindly use it as a racial slur.

[@TheCrazyCanuck420]

Well that's one way to piss off your neighbors....

[@bavery6957]

"Who's the fricken idiot who blocked this drainage line!!" "Oh, that would be me!" 🖐

[@keithjimison7163]

The drainage system has been there since 1981. Her house was built in 1993. She bought the house in 2012. It was there before her, so how can she claim they illegally put a drain in without her permission? Cippola Law of Stupidity is in full effect with this lady.🤣

[@michaelburbank2276]

Due diligence when buying property 😂

[@steven4315]

Seems her main issue was an unrepaired broken pipe. Seems the HOA didn't want to repair the broken pipe. Since the developer never obtained an easement, it's her drain.

[@richardstrongismokecigarsa7215]

​@@steven4315since you are not a judge in a court of law your opinion has no value .

[@Mox3712]

Obviously you didn't listen very well to the report as they explained why she did it. I'd say the stupidity runs from you

[@notme9976]

@@steven4315 Looks like she is going to get that pipe repaired, just on her own dime.

[@KittyMax97]

“Installed on my property without permission” it was there before you and will be there after your shunned out of that neighborhood

[@garywheeler7039]

It was probably outside her property line also. A front property line is usually 10 feet or so inside the curb. And in many locations there is also a public utilities easement inside of that for power poles and such. fd

[@jcamp788]

Yeah I don't think she understands how public utility easements work, that IS the permission lol.

[@kaymark6744]

I bet her neighbors hate her 😂

[@rosey312]

The cost of repairing that pipe will probably cost her her home! And in litigious Fl, folks are no doubt looking at compensation for their damages due to this.

[@randycook4742]

Normally the developer that built the community installs the water lines and drains IAW a city approved permit. The HOA is responsible for maintaining the community infrastructure once the homes are purchased. That is why HOAs charge fees.

[@KunraVong]

How is this not a criminal act?

[@LeCharles07]

It is. It would be classified as "criminal mischief".

[@RusticRonnie]

She is being investigated.

[@bryancondrey6457]

It is. Female's kryptonite is not being held accountable for the trouble they cause mankind. It is genetic. If I could only ask Adam...

[@floridabeardedwoodworker]

She must be a democrat because if she was a republican she’d already be in jail for it.

[@AParticularlyConcernedCitizen]

It is, but the reality is that financially ruining her will get the point across way better than a day in jail.

[@MsJimmysgirl]

Wow that person must be the worst Karen I have ever seen or heard of. She cant cement in city water pipes.

[@kimrasmussen7188]

she actually could. but her neighbors and the city wont be happy with it.

[@ohger1]

I'll start by saying that if I was advising her, I would have told her not to cement the drains - talk about a scorched Earth plan.. What I would have done is fabricate storm covers - it wouldn't take much to block off the drains and prevent any further erosion to *her* property. This way, in case the court rules against her (it might, you never know) she won't be stuck with a huge bill. OTOH, I don't know what's involved in replacing or repairing the broken drains - maybe they have to be dug up one way or the other and the cost would be the same.

[@RegularBlackMom]

The mind-boggling part is that she’s a Real Estate Agent.. she should know better!

[@ElCapitanDeLaNoche]

Although that DOES explain the enormous ego of the woman.

[@jacquir8331]

You just explained it all.

[@Comicsandstuff]

Lmao

[@doom4067]

Like every job, some are better than others.

[@blaira1865]

Real estate agents fancy themselves attorneys without a law degree. She is about to learn a very hard and expensive lesson.

[@tittyskillet3413]

That lady is insane. Its called a utility easement. The judge will help her understand.

[@debbyvibbert3177]

Ok HOA Karen good luck explaining entitlement to judge. Entire neighborhood should sue her.

[@ohger1]

Maybe not. Normally, the easement holder (town) repairs broken drain pipes, but the town sold the whole parcel easement and all to a private developer who built the homes. The easement no longer exists so the original easement holder (the town) won't fix it, and that leaves the HOA or this woman to pay. Since the drain protects the neighborhood, she likely has a legal right to seek relief from the HOA and if denied, do with the pipe what she wants. Sticky wicket..

[@tittyskillet3413]

@@ohger1 what country are you from. Not how it works in america.

[@ohger1]

@@tittyskillet3413 @tittyskillet3413 America, and I have a 400' storm drain pipe 20' below my property that starts from the street and ends in my wetlands. My closing attorney checked with the town when I built my house. I am not responsible for the drain pipe but I have to allow them access to it if every it's needed and I need to maintain the outlet pipe to keep it clear from things like falling trees. The definition of easement is - "A drainage easement is a right you give to a government authority to access and use a specific part of your property for water management." The easement gives them the right to access the property but does not confer the expense of repair to the property owner.

[@emmyjj5612]

@@ohger1I don't know if I'd argue with someone named Titty Skillet.

[@lionhounds]

She and her lawyer are about to learn about drainage laws.

[@ycplum7062]

I have serious doubts she consulted a lawyer first. lol

[@thomashenshallhydraxis]

Her lawyer already knew the law; he’s just taking more money from her to defend herself against what is already coming. He has car payments to make; he just removed the pebble from the boulder sitting on the edge.

[@chuck6290]

Are the "worlds worst neighbor" awards coming up or something?

[@proudtobeamerican7524]

She absolutely should be held liable. She knew exactly what she was doing.

[@wendybutler1681]

She even told them she was going to do it.

[@garymartin9777]

What if she's right about it being on her property?

[@carolinematusevich889]

Oh she will be. Infrastructure like flood control doesn't need home owners permission. All of these MAGAs think they're their own island. Moreover, she provided no proof of how the storm drain was ruining her property. It was also there long before she moved in. She just another reason why we need to bring back the asylums.

[@carolinematusevich889]

It doesn't matter. If the government wants to put a road through your home, they can and will. They don't need our permission on eminent domain issues. So, private citizens don't get much say about our infrastructure when it's a public safety matter, especially when it was in existence decades before moving into your home. This includes following the times that the city, state or county does renovations and repairs.

[@chouseification]

@@garymartin9777 it's most likely on the easement by the street - where utilities (and drain pipes) are allowed to be installed, even if "on your land".

[@jeffreygunn3530]

Well, it was nice of her to admit to it in writing. Saves them having to try to figure out who to charge for the damages

[@Chrissimpson-oo4qx]

Except she will challenge it in court saying she already warned them and gave them time to fix it and even if they win the lawsuit against her she'll just move away and an HMO is going to be left having to flip the bill on this is one time to HMO will not win even if they win a court case just move away.

[@Viper42104]

Bruh, just stop. ​@@Chrissimpson-oo4qx

[@jeffreygunn3530]

@@Chrissimpson-oo4qx I assume that you meant "HOA," not HMO. Regardless, this is an issue between her and the city, not an HOA. And she can "move away" if she likes, but it's going to be difficult for her to sell her house with a huge lien against it.

[@PhillipMoore-vj6cc]

​@@Chrissimpson-oo4qxIf a court legally orders "her" to repair that drain. I don't know why ypu think she can just move away. In order for that to be a solution for her, the court order would have to say "the resident" must repair the drain. That court order will have her name on it. She will be responsible for the cost of repair. If she moves away, the HOA will repair the drain and foward the bill "legally" to her new address. Any extra fees accrued in collecting this debt will also be her responsability. You can't move away from "your" obligations. This is not the property's problem, it's "her" problem.

[@patty109109]

@@Chrissimpson-oo4qxthey will put a lien on her house. She isn’t going to get away from the.

[@donnawood3505]

What is wrong with people? Storm pipes? She doesn’t understand it’s for her benefit as well! Yikes!

[@user-vg8mc5bo2f]

@donnawood3505 She lives thru her emotions just think about her poor (yes) man if she has one at all.

[@janicewolk6492]

She has chosen the worst way to handle the problem. Obviously doesn't know the common law of moving water.

[@brianhammer5107]

there is no problem to begin with - she's crazy

[@vince1638]

Unreal how stupid some people can be.

[@jeffreyenglish1815]

Conservative Christians have insidiously undermined our educational system for the last fifty years. This is the result.

[@jeffreyenglish1815]

Conservative Christians have insidiously undermined our educational system for the last fifty years. This is the result.

[@WildBikerBill]

"I cut off my nose to spite my face"

[@user-pq9ji7kt4l]

@@vince1638 never underestimate Florida people….

[@murielsundermier1044]

No its not! Bahahaha

[@Derpy1969]

She apparently doesn’t know what an easement is.

[@stoopidpeoplephuck2much5586]

Ummm yes she does and they don't have one.

[@michaelmelton7295]

@@Derpy1969 Where is the easement? Do you know?

[@Edgerider69-tx9le]

Finally a comment that makes sense!!

[@OldSaltyBear]

@@michaelmelton7295 The only way to know for certain is to pull the tax map records for the property... but almost all properties have easements and they are typically spelled out in the sales contract / deed. Even my rural farm in the middle of nowhere has easements for the road, utilities and drainage. I think you would be hard pressed to find any property in the US that doesn't... especially in a neighborhood with an HOA.

[@willenholly]

When I was a kid, my friends built a bunkhouse under the easement statues near the railroad. God, the underage drinking & parties were legendary. I swear, the police were just like, “Nobody get hurt.”

[@tm13tube]

You can’t put concrete in your storm drains. It is part of a system, not her little property. There are a lot of Americans who have lost the ability to consider anyone, anything beyond theirself. It is so rude. I’m appalled by someone who can’t figure out a drainage system cannot have concrete in it.

[@tod3msn]

Years ago we had a big neighborhood debate about draining and where rain water goes. People who should know better failed to understand concrete makes water run quickly downhill and the ground is not absorbing the water anymore. This mess here appears to be an expensive fix.

[@grbenway]

especially if she has to get the work done, I can not imagine contractors there are any less bust than here.. she is looking at 10k a month in fines

[@brokensystembrokentrust5047]

She did it maliciously and should pay for the cost of replacing the pipe and fined as well. As a neighbor I would sue her too!

[@colincampbell767]

The city will bill her for the cost of the repairs. Storm drains and other critical infrastructure are all owned by the local government (specifically so people don't mess with them),

[@OtisFlint]

@@colincampbell767 Apparently, the city claimed it was not theirs and refused to fix it.

[@Nugire]

The drainage system also was installed 1981, the house on that lot was build in 1993 and she bought it in 2012. So i would like to know who the owner was in 1981 and if there was a contract or sth similar put in place that gives the rights for the pipe to be there.

[@ShadowbayRobin]

@@NugireThe owner in 1981 was the developer. The developer created the drainage infrastructure, including the pipe easement and the retention pond the outfall pipe empties into. At that time, the community was approved with private roads and drainage. This carried to all four platted “groupings” of homes which would become 2 different HOAs and 1 COA, all built at different times between 1983 and 1993. Each section of the community is responsible for their piece of the drainage system. It is in their Declarations of Covenants and Restrictions. The easement is referenced in Lake Vista at Shadowbay’s Dec, and cannot be discharged even if the HOA ceases to exist as a corporation (which it did some years ago). Every single parcel of Lake Vista took title to their property subject to the easement. The outfall pipe is integral to the drainage system - it connects Shadowbay Club’s stormwater outflow route to the retention pond as it was designed to do, and had always done, since its construction in 1981 through April 2024.

[@ktktktktktktkt]

The one time an HOA is in the right.

[@vectorm4]

Don't say that out loud, HOA's may be embolden - but I agree with you.

[@user-cr7id1tc3t]

I don’t think it’s an HOA issue, and I think her filling it with concrete is going to cost her more money than she ever imagined. The storm drain system is usually property of the municipality, therefore she is going to be looking at criminal charges for willful destruction of property and as soon as her neighbors have flood damage she is going to have to deal with civil liability issues for causing the flood damage. I’m betting that before it’s over she’ll be selling the house to pay damages.

[@mikes-wv3em]

all the haters never want to join, or are roachie renters that cant do anything but whine

[@Jason.W.]

Doesn't look like they did their job though. Per usual.

[@josephhodges9819]

They are right thousands of times but only the negative gets reported be controversy sales news.

[@MikiCab1]

She will owe hundreds of thousands of dollars if not millions of dollars. If she loses, which she will, she will have to pay the other sides attorneys fees. A woman just lost a case in Florida when her HOA won and she had to pay over $70K in attorneys fees plus a daily fine. She wound up having to pay over $150K just for a doorbell they didn't like since it was on the outside of her house and the HOA has jurisdiction on everything visible from the street. It sounds like she wants her neighbors to pay her for having the drain on her property.

[@jonescrusher1]

Some serious balls on the woman to blackmail your entire neighbourhood.

[@michaelwilson8856]

I bet if i just fill in this storm drain, the erosion on my property will be less, which is ludicrous. How do these people have functioning adult lives?

[@randolfo1265]

People like her think 'Civil Engineering' means driving a commuter train.

[@ifannecandoitsocani7288]

People who don’t believe in basic science because they did their own “research”. Logic does not apply to them, only their “feelings” and “rights”.

[@rustygribbler1380]

I have the exact same question

[@ohger1]

The way I understand it (and I could be wrong) is that the drain pipe broke under her property. Whenever it rained, the internal leakage was causing erosion of her property. Sealing the drain off stopped the erosion at the expense of flooding, which I suspect is more of an inconvenience while it lasts compared to the erosion which is permanent in nature. Her claim is that since the pipe is on her property and she was told by the HOA the expense to fix the neighborhood drain was hers alone and not shared with the neighborhood HOA, she plugged it. Not saying I agree with the methods but I understand her frustration.

[@darklorddisco]

She can barely even pronounce the word "property"

[@OJdidit93905]

She knew it was there when she bought the house if she didn’t want that in her property don’t move buy a home with a storm drain in the yard.

[@dfinlen]

You missed the part where the HOA didn't say it was their pipe and expected her to repair it. So she did. But now they suddenly think it was theirs.

[@jmtimmons]

​@@dfinlenFilling it with cement isn't repairing it.

[@concernedamerican8]

​@@dfinlenShe didn't "fix" anything. ​

[@TheMintybreath]

@@dfinlen Causing water damage to the whole neighborhood AND her property was her solution? instead of; fixing the pipe?

[@NickoGibson]

So basically Longwood is a swamp and the only drain is on her property, which she is responsible for fixing and maintaining, and taking all the erosion damage. In that case I would see the temptation to restore the swamp.

[@southbug27]

Something like that should get someone arrested.

[@user-fk6jl5ms6s]

It's called an easement, it's where public utilities go.

[@ohger1]

Yes, but "easement" doesn't apply here since the HOA disavowed their responsibilities to repair the pipes. An easement means the city, town, or HOA in this case must be allowed unfettered access to the pipe - the homeowner must allow them on to her property to repair the pipe. The easement does not mean the land owner is responsible for repairs, but only maintenance around the openings and allowing/providing access to it. It also means she can't build anything over the easement or she'll lose it when they remove anything in the way. Where this gets fun is since the HOA said the pipe is on her property and not their problem, it seems it was they who told her it was hers to do with what she pleased. I'm not a lawyer so I don't know how the courts will sort this out, but it will be interesting.

[@BenAvodot]

Classic case of cutting off your nose to spite your face. She makes herself the victim, when she’s really a perpetrator and causing harm to others. All that’s going to happen is that she will lose lots of money and be hated by her entire neighborhood. What a stupid strategy.

[@hydrocarbon8272]

This is Murica, the chance at a sweet payday at your fellow neighbors' expense is irresistible here. And most are too dumb to realize how insane the odds are of winning.

[@briank9354]

can lose her property too

[@karidennis6154]

Not just lots of money, probably her house too, $300 a day adds up fast

[@RENEG4DE4NGEL]

Some of us can't afford houses while people who do own houses are blowing money on destroying the neighborhood.

[@noneofyourbeeswax01]

@@briank9354 Yes, @ $300 per diem if she won't pay they could put a lien on her house.

[@catherga]

With all that standing water the mosquito problem in that neighborhood must be out of this world

[@jakefromstatefarm4771]

Good point ☝️

[@KayPrescesky]

I can just imagine the mosquitoes writing to their little buddies and gal pals about the best place to hook up and settle down with the kids and great great great great grandkids, etc..... /jk

[@edwincolon7782]

Dig it out and send her the bill

[@danielrn133]

Even if it is on her property..my god lady be a decent citizen. She destroys the entire neighborhood because she cannot be a decent neighbor?

[@Highland_Moo]

Good god, why the fuck would she do that? Storm drains are there for a reason.

[@Jackster310]

Can you imagine creating such a terrible situation for your fellow neighbors and continuing to live amongst them?

as well as overnight ruining your reputation as a Real Estate agent and losing all your income ...

[@RT-qd8yl]

Makes me wish the neighborhood would take care of the situation themselves.

[@fs_dave]

No matter who "owns" the drainage system, Florida law employs the Reasonable Use rule for water diversion. If you divert water onto your neighbor's property, you could be held liable for damages.

[@thatguysstuff15]

Karen of the year 😮

[@floydjohnson4915]

The drain is in an easement along the roadway and the homeowner doesn't own it. I have a storm drain in front of my home and I take special care to keep it clean when storm debris gets into it!

[@Fan-lq6uv]

The drain was there many years before she moved in the house. If she didn't want drain and "risk of erosion", she should have looked for a different house.

[@John-ou4rm]

You definitely get it. Where I am if you do any construction work within 3 meters you have to get their agreement etc.

[@sinisterthoughts2896]

Apparently they never established an easement for her property, seemingly an oversight. According to some other commenters.

[@floydjohnson4915]

@@sinisterthoughts2896 I'm betting the drain was put in before the home was ever built and that would establish a utility easement. She's probably never seen a survey either.

[@bryancondrey6457]

Heck all I have is a concrete gutter like everyone else in my neighborhood. It does it's job well as long as everyone takes the few minutes every week to keep the grass from growing across it. Those that don't usually have ponding problems.

[@NazgulM5OD300]

"I don't want erosion on my property, so I blocked the storm drain." 🤓

[@kimrasmussen7188]

yea, she literally made the problem worse for both herself AND the entire district. and they say that shes a real estate agent too. WTF!!!

[@NazgulM5OD300]

@@kimrasmussen7188 😄 Ridiculous.

[@alvinharris7947]

🤣

[@madmarduk1936]

Right! Because standing water doesn’t pull and absorb more dirt than if it were being drained away.. pure genius.

[@erinprattmiller3734]

She must prefer mold. She has nerve.

[@MrWorf53]

She will lose big time. At least in Illinois, the law forbids you from blocking the natural flow of water onto your property. And this is a clear example of why.

[@penitent2401]

Certain infrastructure constructions are required and permitted to go through your property without requiring your permission. Does this woman also demands compensation for sewage pipes that goes under her property and continues on to also service her neighbours?

[@LeCharles07]

Probably.

[@user-lc4qe4gr7k]

The city/county/state doesn't need HER PERMISSION to install necessary drainage pipes for public safety.

[@InkHyaena]

This was also installed LONG before she even lived in that house so she absolutely has no room here to even talk

[@doom4067]

Her biggest problem is that she informed the neighbors in writing that the neighborhood would flood after she blocked the drain.

[@LupusRex-hf2rl]

If it is on her land, yes they do. But it was there before she owned it, so it be deeded in the property.

[@larrysanders2170]

​@LupusRex-hf2rl the government does not need your permission for anything

[@dakkenblah1450]

The government can take sections of your land for public projects. Seen it happen a lot for road expansion.

[@cindycreateforlife]

Taking narcissism to the next level! Storm drains are always on municipal property, you do not own up to the street surface lady and underground cables, gas lines etc., do not require your permission either! Arrogant beyond measure!

[@toericabaker]

It's called an easement and the city can do stuff on your property if they want to and it's legal

[@markaddison4642]

America has been catering to lunatics in real-time .

[@johnreep5798]

That’s not an easement, that’s the right of way.

[@fun0537]

@@johnreep5798 it's an easement.

[@SigFigNewton]

That’s tyrannical! I should be able to buy low lying property and prevent drainage to flood the whole neighborhood any time and place I want.

[@shannonfergusson978]

I don't think court will go very well for her. In the letter she sent out before doing it. She admits to knowing the damage it will cause. Wow.

[@gh4121-b5n]

It’s storm management and the city or county doesn’t Need Permission. It’s like the house is on a Right Of Way. Could be hydro or gas lines or storm drains that Can be accessed by the appropriate work force. She should be charged and pay All damages. Next time when buying a home you check to make sure you’re Not on a Service Right of Way

[@Musicdudeyoutub]

If you block a storm drain, guess where the water is going to end up? Educate yourself on WATER and GRAVITY

[@EliChristman]

New Orleans? (Too soon?)

[@ahthisisgood]

I feel bad for the neighbor that lives at the lowest point in the neighborhood... Water's gotta go somewhere.

[@petewilcox3354]

From the letter she wrote, she apparently knew...did you watch the whole video??

[@KR-fy3ls]

@@petewilcox3354 Zero chance he watched the entire thing.

[@chele-chele]

@@ahthisisgood More than likely and, the great irony of the story, is that she probably is the low point of the community as it is her yard in which the drain was installed. She shot herself in the foot.

[@mhockey23]

Litigants are going to cite her own memo against her in court😂😂

[@123smartcontent]

That is totally the thing a Karen would do. She's going to pay one way or another based on fines or lawsuits. Some people aren't happy unless many are miserable.😡

[@klutzycutie]

I don’t think she has a case if that pipe was already there. Where did the water go to before you sealed it up? It’s suspish on her part

[@mineown1861]

When people have too much time on their hands and too few brain cells to fill it productively .

[@WRECKING_MAGA_BOY_HOLES]

yup then they pack up and move down here..uhg

[@billtaylor2405]

to finish your sentence, "They post ridiculous insults on KZbin". You obviously do not own a home or you have never had to deal with a municipality that doesn't follow their own rules. People work most of their lives to afford a nice home someplace like Florida, and to be taken out behind the shed and shot like that, she just gave them a little dose of their own medicine.

[@frey8725]

@@billtaylor2405 She has no idea how erosion works, she has no idea how HOAs work and she has no idea how easements work. She screwed her entire neighborhood because of her ignorance and now she's gonna pay for it.

[@safeandeffectivelol]

in other words, a democrat

[@frey8725]

@@safeandeffectivelol Wow. Dragging politics into a situation because all they see is politics. It must be a terrible life to be nothing but a republican. Your entire existence is completely defined by your party affiliation. I really feel bad for you.

[@dilldoe4397]

Ide rather have a storm drain in my yard then have my yard a giant puddle every time it rains.

[@halftime814]

Right imagine the mosquitoes 😅

[@dilldoe4397]

@@halftime814 Florida has those bill gates mosquitoes too. Good for her.

[@Peter_Tissot]

yeah imagine the cost if u wanted install your own stormdrain in the area.. and she got one for free, that she had to destroy.

[@m0ntheg3rs]

The water won't just sit there, it will seep even thru concrete eventually.

[@kaptynssirensong2357]

She must not like money 😂😂😂😂😂 She’s about to hand a lot of it over!

[@beverlystufflebeam5731]

I’m shocked she hasn’t been put in jail for tampering with city property.

[@Peter_Tissot]

oh it is a step by step process... 1st the notice, then the fines, and then the arrest. $300 per day will add up fast, and not counting all the reminder fees of unpaid bills.

[@MidlandTexan]

Hmmm, most communities have an EASEMENT into the street side property. She'll likely lose big time, and now there will be no "neighbors", but hostile acquaintences.

[@kirk1618]

Right of Way, I think you mean. An easement is an agreement between property owner and an individual /company for "just" compensation. A right of way is "community space" for things such as utilities and sidewalks. If this was on her property, not on the right of way, an easement granted by a previous owner world have been binding in the deed transfer and would be documented in the deed and survey. The right of way is also shown in the survey. Due diligence is important.

[@AFloridaSon]

Not this time. This is not any kind of community property. It's her own private property. That's why they've not been able to force her to have it replaced.

[@megsley]

​@@AFloridaSon the drain existed before she lived there.

[@donwyoming1936]

​@AFloridaSon I learned 25 years ago that I do not actually own the front 8 feet of my yard, next to the road. The city can do whatever they want there. They call it an easement. On paper, it's my property. In reality, they chew it up every few years to install water, cable, phone and internet lines to other lots.

[@blairhoughton7918]

​@@kirk1618A right of way is an easement, but an easement isn't necessarily a right of way. The city has an easement for the sidewalk on your land by the road. The citizens have a right of way to use the city sidewalk. Whoever built this drain probably has the easement to keep it there. Nobody needs a right of way to use it, it's just for water. Maintenance access comes under the easement.

[@michaelturner9029]

When did Marjorie Taylor Green leave Georgia, and move to Florida?

[@richardcrosby6682]

Normally people get fed up with the lack of maintenance and try to clean the storm drain themselves. This person purposely clogged it themself.

[@chargermopar]

That's what I was thinking. I have had to flush out the drain in my backyard because the county refuses to do it. It leads to a long forgotten culvert and had a bunch of roots inside.

[@ES11777]

Yes exactly 🤦‍♀️

[@sportbikejesus6297]

"themself" isn't a word. "themselves" is for 2 or more people.

[@sidneyvandykeii3169]

​@sportbikejesus6297 Did you understand what he meant? That's all that really matters to the Non-Gramnar police.

[@throckwoddle]

@@sportbikejesus6297 "Themself" is indeed a word. It's even a word that has been used enough in the past to be put into dictionaries. When referring to a singular person of known sex, such as here, I believe it's used to generalize the point to a larger number of people.

[@timdowney6721]

Florida Woman not wanting to be outdone by Florida Man. 🙄🤡🤡

[@LeCharles07]

FL woah man!

[@Snaomib]

She probably yells “what are you doing on my swamp!!” 👹 😂

[@quintonfrost1259]

If you live in an HOA you can’t do anything with or to your property without permission. Why would she think she could fight the hoa? They will fine her 300 a day then take her home.

[@passthetunaporfavor]

By sending the letter she opened herself up to litigation from all of her neighbors if there is any damage caused by her plugging the drains.

[@nmtumbleweed5320]

She created an even bigger problem and she is so egotistical she will never admit she is in the wrong.

[@Kokoshi]

How bad is this Karen? She makes the HOA the good guys.

[@khonhlo1476]

Storm drain usually located in the lowest level area. By blocking the drain, she is damaging her property the most isnt it?

[@BillyAlabama]

That woman should be responsible for all charges and expenses being born by neighbors.

[@garywheeler7039]

Plus some!

[@katehenry2718]

Judge will help her with that.

[@elmuchachoenamorado6764]

Sounds like one of them " im not driving, im traveling" kind of person😂😂

[@user-zu5do6ri6r]

Right! Doesn't she know that the government will change definitions in order to disregard a well established right?

[@stripedpants1668]

Traveling on her canoe when she floods the entire neighborhood.

[@RealOriginaLew]

That's a b_ll$#!+ invalid comparison. The lady is a Karnen & you're just as bad w/ that attempt

[@GamefreakAsh]

More like a flat earther.

[@lordraydens]

@@user-zu5do6ri6r cope harder, sovcit

[@erictaylor5462]

The city (or state) doesn't need permission to install *AND* maintain needed infrastructure on private property. It said infrastructure causes problems for you but you need to contact them and give them a chance to fix it. Failing that you take them to court. You do not cause problems for everyone else.

[@bouncerslabrealnature9143]

I 100% agree with her decision to tell them to deal with it. ... It's her property and nobody else should modify it. 😂😂 I'm being sarcastic but I'm also serious to an extent.

[@BlessedBeMyDay]

All the neighbors that have had their yards flood and cars damaged from all the water should also sue her for damages .

[@The.MasonNichols]

At least she doesn't have to worry ab erosion (somehow)

[@Allegheny500]

Not to mention basements if any.

[@maxanderson9187]

Don't worry about them. Insurers have very good legal teams and they are there to simply recover payouts. Interesting times.

[@Balletcalvero]

Well that is a level of entitlement I haven't witnessed before.

[@capricepercle9133]

They all have easements. Probably not her property.

[@FunningRast]

0:59 the drainage system predated the home itself by 12 years……

[@jlo7770]

*builds home next to airport-complaims about noise It's scary that these people get an entire vote for themselves

[@boondox270]

Tell me you're a Karen without telling me you're a Karen...

[@michaellance6627]

can brown women be karens?

[@kingvincentarchcravenxiii1141]

Ummmm isn’t that how every Karen tells you they’re a Karen? No one just says “I’m a Karen”

[@onlychangeiscertain]

You must be fun at parties.

[@ohger1]

This story is incomplete. Apparently, the town installed the drain in an easement years before the house was built. The entire parcel of land was sold to a private developer who built the houses around and over the drain, and the property was now an HOA. What happened is the drain pipe broke under ground on this woman's property and the woman's property was being eroded every time it rained. She complained the HOA but they told her the broken pipe was on her property and since a town easement no longer existed, it was her pipe and hers to fix alone if she wanted to stop the erosion on her property. Her "solution" flooded her yard but stopped the erosion at the cost of flooding her neighbors yards as well. My personal opinion is that if the drain protected only that woman's property, then she could do what she wanted and the bill would be hers to fix. But if the drain protected properties besides hers, the HOA should have fixed it. Interesting case.

[@Azaelris]

wait if this is actually the case then the HOA should be responsible for fixing it

[@ohger1]

@@Azaelris Yes, if that is the case. I suspect more details will come when this goes to trial.

[@smeennu]

spent $45 worth of Quikrete and turned it into owing $10,000 repair job and flood her OWN yard, house, and neighborhood... #justfloridathings

[@markaddison4642]

Spite always think it's right.

[@patty109109]

She’ll be very lucky to get out of this for $10k. Legal fees, fines, professional remediation. Tens of thousands. Karen is a disease.

[@nika4843]

Oh it will be way more than $10,000. No doubt.

[@SigFigNewton]

I’m on her side. They should have put the drain at the top of the hill, not the bottom

[@Seasidecc95437]

It will be way more than 10K

[@Moonchilling]

Who cares what she believes. She should’ve gotten proof. People need to get over attributing things to “feelings”.

[@podunkpennsylvania292]

TRUE DAT

[@michaelmelton7295]

@@Moonchilling How do you know she doesn't have all the facts she needs?

[@SigFigNewton]

@@michaelmelton7295is her argument that she wants the drains to be placed at the top of the hill?

[@SigFigNewton]

@@michaelmelton7295there are correct places to put drains. Full stop

[@samhavoc1066]

@@michaelmelton7295 Listen to her statement in the video where she say's she "believes" the drain was installed without her permission. HOA's have common areas and easements that serve the neighborhood. I highly doubt the storm drain piping and drain just "appeared"; based on the grass around it, it's been there a while. Just another "entitled" idiot who's going to end up paying to have it repaired, and probably be sued for any damage to other people's property she caused.

[@TheVeggiekat]

Imagine the mosquitos she’s responsible for

[@SeaDanceDream]

Reporter said: 😯🤷 The lady: 🙋‍♀️✌️💅 😂

[@Allikattoo]

There was a drainage problem behind the office where I work years ago. The city came in took out half the sidewalk and put in a huge drainage system. They didn’t ask permission, they didn’t tell anyone they just did it. If you have a flooding problem the city doesn’t care about your feelings they are going to do what they have to in order to fix it.

[@JAM661]

Yes the problem is the city does not own the pipes. The HOA does.

[@VG-or1nu]

Now she ‘infringes’ on other peoples property ‘without their permission’… by causing all that water damage 😂

[@Jeremiah-fuqs]

If the drain is on public easement then none of that flood water is on private property

[@PilotVBall]

Wrong!

[@user-zu5do6ri6r]

She didn't infringe anything.

[@HiDefHDMusic]

@@user-zu5do6ri6ryou’re not smart 😂

[@PrayingPanda]

Yall in the comments are doing a lot of blaming. Why would anyone be ok with someone who doesn't pay for your house installed a drain on your property that messes with it's value and could lead to land erosion? Also we need to know where it is on her property.

[@chadsimmons6347]

The storm water route was mapped out by subdivision developers, approved by county engineers.She is in trouble now!

[@rickv5833]

Need a follow up story on the total repair cost for ignorance.

[@Mac-ix4qp]

Florida man/woman...........complete the sentence with an asinine behavior.

[@russcrawford3310]

"using concrete" ... something Floridians should avoid ...

[@kellidinit3725]

Seriously. What is up with that state?

[@cmedeir]

Listen to her speak… clearly not a Floridian. Typical New Yorker.

[@SMaamri78]

I guess you think there are no stupid people in the other 49 states? Hate to tell ya, but stupid people are everywhere.

[@TUKByV]

​@@cmedeirExactly.

[@waynepalmer6949]

She is liable to any damage caused

[@gregwilliams386]

In some areas of the US, if the storm drain laid uncontested for over 7 years in that location it has established an easement.

[@MagusMik]

This is the most idiotic thing I've ever seen, she plugged cause she was worried about 'erosion' but all that sitting water is going cause a lot more problems than erosion.

[@tigrehermano]

it's not even 2 inches of water in the street xD

[@robertoreal1117]

Real talk. In Texas there was this community everytime it rain like 2 feet of water wouldnt drain lol​@@tigrehermano

[@UncleDavesKitchen]

rather than an eroded lawn she can go fishing now

[@MagusMik]

I see the idiots have come knowing everything about over saturated soils, but very cool I'm sure you're all well-versed in this stuff definitely.

[@rasputinsorphan1260]

I doubt seriously that this is the most idiotic thing you have ever seen. You do own a mirror don't you?

[@ryobiman]

Well that was stupid.

[@stevenburkhardt1963]

The arrogance of so many these days

[@daniel-qh4zq]

If she is in a HOA, put a property lien on her house for damages as well as $300 a day fine. Also, isn't HOAs living air space and the outside common area. Which would mean the drain isn't on her property. Unless it is a PUD and she owns upto the lawn. Anyway, glad she isn't my neighbor.

[@daitsy2476]

"I don't want erosion on my property." Well now you have that and bigger problems.

[@ziggyc3004]

"I want to live in a community and burden them with my selfishness."

[@jessejames8900]

Stupidity

[@Jeremy-WC]

This is so bizarre, Did she do the concrete work herself? I mean as a handyman if someone told me to do this I would contact the city to make sure this was legal. As soon as she sent the letter how was that not forwarded to the city and police? I mean I have to think she was told 1-3 times by various qualified people this will end badly for you if you do this. I read in a comment she is a realator? Her reputation is going to be so tarnished after this she may have ended her career.