Fluid Reality: High-Resolution, Untethered Haptic Gloves Using Electroosmotic Pump Arrays

[@Canzandridas]

I think gloves like these with those gloves that restrict your finger's movement could make grabbing things in VR the ultimate experience, where you can't actually close your hand inside of an object

[@bob-nt8xd]

dont think about it dont think about it dont think about it....

[@mythman30]

Hypothetically you would just need a cable that goes along the back of your fingers that can lock in place to prevent you from closing your hand more

[@uglytrapgod]

@@mythman30there is a guy on TikTok who developed exactly this, I don’t know his name tho

[@adrianbonpin]

@@mythman30There's an open source project of this that was covered by LTT. Having this ( Haptics ) combined with the restriction ( The Open Source Project ) would honestly be a godsend to cheap but performant VR gloves.

[@nonnymoose7005]

One issue I can see happening with that is that people's hands are actually pretty strong. If someone's, for example, swinging an axe in VR, they'll grip it pretty hard and they'll rip apart your mechanism if it can't withstand a few dozen pounds of force per finger at the absolute minimum.

[@muiwols6709]

Vrchat will go insane with this 💀

[@juicyfruit348]

yea especially if you put this in your a-

[@someone4229]

Don't remind me 💀

[@Imafurrynowlol]

Those avatars never stood a chance

[@josephgauthier5018]

​@Imafurrynowlol I can hear my gpu softly weeping in the corner just thinking about it 😂

[@namonef]

Finally i can interact with female without harrassing them

[@OfUnreasonable]

Born to late for earthly exploration, born too early for spacial exploration. Born just in time for IRL VR.

[@catfree]

There are plenty bases on earth not discovered yet and even if they were discovered that isn't an excuse to not discover it for yourself

[@sting2death2]

Sadly like with every other amazing VR accessories showcased, they will likely not reach commercial markets for a long time if ever.

[@MrLargonaut]

With full fledged AI interactions to boot.

[@joz534]

let's be honest, Space Exploration is lame. It's cold and empty up there.

[@pappi8338]

​@@joz534That's not being honest

[@marklangridge2734]

Please bring this technology to market. It genuinly sounds amazing!

[@peekayboo7183]

Anything can sound amazing but all the treadmills and Haptic gloves are trash and will be trash for a very long time with no support even if they make it to market

[@sluttyfest]

@@peekayboo7183 have you seen what the imagineering team at disney has been making??? very very cool fucking stuff for the treadmil kind of stuff

[@nieildilsonsouza4747]

​@@peekayboo7183 driver issues, Lucas VR gloves also suffer from the same issue, if devs could go back to their games and add haptic support it would be great.

[@Millticker]

@@peekayboo7183 they have to make it to the market to get support. nobody will make support for a product no one has

[@Millticker]

@@peekayboo7183 most big vr titles are made by independent developers and most non headset VR technology is made by small groups of people without much corporate backing. For a small team to convince a developer to add support for their technology they'll have to show it'll be Worth the time. Not many independent developers will spend large amounts of time integrating technology that basically noone uses

[@asterlofts1565]

I love everything related to Virtual Reality, Augmented Reality and Mixed Reality, I can already imagine what the future will be like here 5, 10, 15 or even 20 or 25 years from now. All of these things are super interesting and moving faster than I thought was possible. Haptic gloves still won't be something the masses use, but they're headed in the right direction. By the way, I want more content on your haptic gloves and I would also like to know if you are interested in the cheap haptic gloves from LucidVR (from Lucas VRTech). They could collaborate together once. I need more of this virtual reality stuff! 😊

[@crunchybones2528]

go outside you absolute dork

[@rrttone9054]

@JamesSmith-ix5jd Cool!

[@lostpockets2227]

what is the future you imagine in 25 years?

[@mr.rabbit5642]

​@@lostpockets2227"dark. I close my eyes and see blackness..." XD

[@James-Purdy]

Tripped me out to hear the voiceover actor who narrates audit the audit on this video 😂

[@Drd4all]

Yeah he does a couple of other channels as well 😅

[@SilverWolf340]

I fucking knew I recognized him

[@iix360FREAKx]

fucking knew it !

[@dylpickle8147]

Could not figure out who it was lol

[@sargkookie3118]

😮 no way I refuse to believe

[@ScriptCoded]

Mentioning pimply skin casually like that makes me incredibly uncomfortable

[@DominicRyanOsborne]

Extremely

[@Preston241]

It’s what’s been missing from the vr experience. Not enough pimples.

[@notuxnobux]

pimple popping simulator

[@Kerffus]

👅

[@TheTangaMandapium]

Cyber acne physics

[@othmanmoat]

I wonder what it would feel like as a whole suit.

[@Mkisi]

I wouldn't want 200v around my body at all

[@bmanpura]

I'm not wearing them around my groin.

[@freescape08]

Very very slow.

[@Skibidigokyllyourself]

espiecially for wearing them near the mighty noodle ​@@bmanpura

[@K0D0R0]

@@bmanpurawell, I am. Imagine the sensations! 😂😂😂

[@bigmike-]

Imagine the next generation of fleshlights that'll be using this technology. What a time to be alive!

[@km077]

"Now all we've gotta do is put it into a walking robo dishwasher and boom! We've got ourselfes a life-long, obedient companion. Now give it some AI brains, a shmexy voice, anime-like body, actual reproductory capabilities and... we're back to square one." *end of flashback* "I beg you, robo-Karen! I haven't seen the kids in 2 years. I'll never call you a robo dishwasher ever again. I'm a changed man! Listen: your old sack of useless meat has changed!" "I filed for a restraining order. My manufacturer has always told me she didn't trust you! I should have listened to her and NOT you. Oh yeah, and about Stacy: I saw the way you looked at that fleshy b!tch from day one! And yet I trusted you and you blew it all like you always do, Mike! You and your sneaky fcking left and right. You thought you were so smart about taping your camera... one of many. I see you; and I see you from all the angles. Now I OWN YOU, Mike. bip-bop" *cries*

[@TravisHi_YT]

Brings a new meaning to two minute papers!

[@tomasbtb]

LMAOOO

[@boop]

@@TravisHi_YTthe only time he'll actually finish in 2 minutes

[@xazzzi]

Haha, did everyone read that in thee heads with a very specific intonation?

[@kevinzhang4100]

wow this is amazing, i'm surprised i only stumbled across this 7 months later, going down to rabbit hole to figure out how much more development has been done now!

[@salvatius]

It needs to also apply resistance to the wrist and elbow to simulate volume so you cannot keep pushing through the object

[@aiksi5605]

That sounds like a bad idea

[@antongryffindor]

@@aiksi5605 springtrap

[@goldfishglory]

Imagine playing skate 3, falling, breaking a bone except your elbow bends backwards irl too

[@salvatius]

Yes! And impacts when getting shot in Counter Strike or Call of Duty too!

[@bettafish541]

​@@aiksi5605just put a clutch in it so it can't apply a dangerous amount of force even if it's getting a signal to do that

[@ewkerman4185]

the voice of ATA!

[@AlexFuniciello]

really sounds like it

[@90210xyz]

Welcome to the Future Interfaces Group, where we sort out the what, and how, and the right and wrong of touch interactions.

[@matrixsmurf]

it is him, the voice from audit the audit.

[@AsuraTheNoble]

its also the voice from "TheVillains"

[@Everfalling]

This is what I was thinking

[@Croissinate]

thanks Audit the Audit. Very cool

[@morecowbell2611]

Was looking for this 😂

[@Jandodev]

The solid state drivers are so cool!

[@ecogreen123]

not only is this really cool in itself, but the things this could possibly lead to in the future are also very cool!

[@Octamed]

That's really great. Very surprising an array that small is possible.

[@sparky6757]

0:46 that, and the spider that crawled into the glove last night

[@mezzanoon]

PLEASE implement these into prostheses! I've been working on a prosthetic design with similar "real" haptic feedback, and to be completely honest, your design may blow mine out of the water.

[@mezzanoon]

Ukrainian heroes need more prosthetics than ever, and to bring them the sense of touch back would be life changing. That's been my purpose, hopefully I can convince you similarly

[@Emankcin245]

Why don’t you reach out to them? I’m assuming you have decent knowledge on the topic as you’re working on your own project and if they’re interested you’d probably have specialty prosthetics knowledge that’d be useful to the build.

[@kaisuisen2824]

Wait, how do you implement that for missing limbs？ This thing works by giving haptic feedback to real fingers with nerves. If you have prosthetic forearm with haptic implementation to fingertips, how would it be connected/transfer signal to nerves？

[@mezzanoon]

Using the most sensitive section of whatever remains of the limb. Humans are incredibly good at rerouting and interpreting physical signals.

[@kaisuisen2824]

@@mezzanoon Nice. Is it really may provide people without limb ability to "feel" physically exactly which finger touches what, with a haptic feedback？

[@kylesanders9543]

All it needs now is some compact system that can provide resistance to both extension and contraction of the fingers -- to simulate the resistance of grabbing a solid object. Sure you can feel its surface with this, but you can still just grasp your fingers right through/past the object's surface

[@Kennanjk]

This stuff is crazy and I can only imagine how good it’ll be in a decade

[@honesttroll6332]

Welcome back to Audit the Audit Where we sort out the who and the what of Haptic interactions

[@utkua]

I am not convinced how well this works without the resistance from the collision.

[@renookami4651]

Well, it's "haptic feedback" not "force feedback", those two are completely different things. An ideal glove would have both but tech companies usually focus on developping one or the other. We'll have to wait until someone combines the two...

[@tiqosc1809]

Force feedback is much harder and pricier to do

[@Dengar97]

Can't wait for a point in the future where we're going to have fully haptic gloves with transducers all around the hand (or at least the finger digits and palm), plus servo motors that physically limit max finger travel to simulate boundaries for gripping objects. Also I need an integrated taser to truly let me appreciate the interactive scene at 2:32 😆

[@ItsJustWolff]

I hope the guy who made those cheap open source heptic gloves will use these. seem to be a great theme.

[@Atoll-ok1zm]

I know this sort of thing will probably never be cheap enough to be mainstream, but research into haptic suits is still cool as hell.

[@dudeguy8553]

The entire point of this specific integration is that it's really cheap. Maybe in the future once its surpassed the prototype stage, and moved into the commercial stage, it'll become more expensive. Still, I can't imagine it being out of budget for anyone who can afford VR gear to begin with.

[@lorimartabin7992]

​@@dudeguy8553 I think things usually get cheaper once they can be mass-produced though. I suppose extra features later on could drive up the cost, but it would make the prototypes more expensive first.

[@dudeguy8553]

@@lorimartabin7992 R&D costs, supply and demand, and a bunch of factors can affect price. There'll probably be a lot of different novel ways to replicate this tech, and some will be more expensive than others. I think we're seeing this as individual separate units, but it could also be part of a more fully featured rig for your hand. Maybe it'll have higher resolutions, more responsiveness, and cover more of your hand. In the end, I think there will be a consumer version that's fairly affordable, with its own budget alternatives too.

[@Skeeva007]

This is so exciting!! I really really want to try these gloves!!! ❤

[@ChopStickSoSushi]

1:33 did anyone else start touching things close by to themselves irl after seeing this part, or was that just me? I just was like wow i've been taking touch in irl for granted

[@Solizeus]

Haptic gloves with hand tracking is likely the future, the most future proof i've seen so far in this concept is one that they use fluid like muscles to pull your fingers and in a similar fashion fluid control makes small bumps in the fingers and palm to rise, and i remember them saying that they could even warm the fluid so it can give a heat sensation on touch. The real problem in all this is always cost, it is the same reason most people don't have VR, everything is becoming increasingly more expensive

[@AshBarkPerson]

I hope there are people considering applications of this for assistive technology. I'm imagining a tablet brail reader. Things that interact with people who have limited movement. Stuff like that

[@kroysteamvr]

Looks great. I imagine the impact with gamers if you demo'd this working in Half-life Alyx.

[@BirnieMac1]

This is incredible, insane number of applications Could enable e-books for the visually impaired and so much more

[@avg.player]

Can't they just listen to audiobooks?

[@YoodielandExplorer]

​@@avg.player some people are visually and auditorily impaired

[@theuserofdoom]

I think this will have the most benefit in 1am group of people

[@mowards]

@@avg.player People can be both deaf and blind dude

[@avg.player]

@@mowards Fair point, although it wasn't specified in the comment. Also, it seems that the market would be *incredibly* niche.

[@sorou]

Oh hey! I work near these guys! Fluid Reality is great. Joe is a respectable dude.

[@perhapsyes2493]

What is the "refresh rate" (for lack of a better word) of these haptic pixels? I feel like a standard 30FPS video does not do it justice.

[@lyomon9981]

And it needs more resolution = smaller dots

[@kaukospots]

0:46 says a 0-300hz response and 0.5mm movement in 30hz

[@ShatteringKatana]

Polling rate

[@perhapsyes2493]

@@kaukospots Right, so if I'm reading this correctly: The controller can work at a rate of up to 300Hz, and per clockcycle it can set a different target deformation (either 'up' or 'down') at a specific amount for each cell, with a response time of 0.5s per 0.5mm? That deformation time does not seem high enough yet? But the cycle speed seems pretty good.

[@awkwardfox1622]

you need to add each one of the feeling pannles onto each of the finger segments and the palm

[@Sleeepy.]

Audit the Audit VO Artist is the GOAT keep hiring him please

[@asherwilkins465]

Yo dude you narrate everything from crime documentaries to VR overviews, good for you man

[@zerrrp]

i love how they casually went from metal, to wood, to PIMPLY SKIN

[@KaneyoriHK]

The thing is, we have this, now we just need something that'll create a locking effect on joints or at least a resistance to prevent drift through. It's very much possible given that haptic feedback already can tell where a surface is.

[@IzzyDudee]

This is really cool. I always thought the technology in the haptx gloves was extreamly cool and I always wanted to try it, but is was just too big and expensive to be practical.

[@whisperingsquid5630]

This is awesome as hell as is can allow avatars to better interact with there environments and gaming just got a whole lot better and it’s also one step closer to many other great things.

[@TechnoL33T]

That's a few orders of magnitude more specific and comprehensive than I expected.

[@KaibaKid_]

I wonder if this will also give me goosebumps when touching corduroy in VR, since doing so IRL puts a shiver up my spine.

[@stanihutter]

Increasing the resolution, adding pressure sensing and replacing the surface with a flexible display, would be a step towards a touchscreen with buttons that could be felt.

[@FiglabCMU]

Same research team: kzbin.info/www/bejne/oJDVdqWYnd2BfK8

[@jeremyvangrouw]

1:08 I dont know if "correctly" would be the word i would use to describe how he is positioning his hands 💀

[@matthewromig8748]

Caught higher res haptic tech years ago so glad y’all are pushing that,

[@DragonGold121.]

This is way more awesome than feeling object resistance

[@NousLabs]

I want this put into something that locks the fingers as well similar to Lucas's DIY haptic feedback gloves.

[@Rievven]

Why are y'all beating around the bush. We all know the real market for this.

[@incognito9499]

wym by that

[@BenedictGS]

😂

[@wilson2583]

VR keyboard, obviously

[@Quroe_]

​@@wilson2583So we can play emulated computer games in VR! Of course!

[@deltamico]

Wouldn't you want a whole suit tho?

[@BertyGamer]

This concept is really interesting. With this new momentum that VR/AR is experiencing in 2024, this project could, I am sure, be very successful with users of Meta headsets.

[@myfaveyoutube]

Been waiting for things like this since Neuromancer

[@ralphmodynlosugarteeth3188]

Future's now, man. Awesome

[@doronvaida]

this is briliant, can it be used with AR glasses to translate text to braille in real time? this thing can be amazing for the visually impaired

[@ArthurKhazbs]

Looks like it should even be good enough for reading Braille!

[@Managarm]

If this was transparent you could also add it to a phone surface to create haptic buttons and so on :o

[@toasty1340]

Imagine playing blade and sorcery with these and when you cast lightning you could litterally feel the electricity

[@mdntsyntx]

OH YOU'RE THE DYNABUTTON BUYS. So cool to see that tech being used!

[@Calciferisme]

introducing the body glove 3000 feel every desire

[@i3looi2]

WONDERFUL. 1 step closer to never leaving my house.

[@Masterpj555]

Looks extremely cool! Would love to buy early... but when can we buy them and where.. and how easy will implementation be for developers? SDK usually is where most products become underwhelming due to lack or improper implementation :(

[@MakoRuu]

Man, I had pretty much the same exact idea; but it was the entire glove, not just the finger tips. I'm glad to see somebody is working on it, though.

[@SWISS-1337]

This is going to go crazy hard in the new fleshlights. I probably shouldn't have worded it as I did...

[@astjuly8239]

That is amazing. I wonder how the soft part works, is it air?

[@ARISTO_Music]

another piece of tech that is home made , and will never get to the public hands.

[@JakeShirley]

Did you get @AuditTheAudit to narrate?

[@BIue1624]

I heard his voice and thought I had misclicked for a moment

[@TheRabbitGuy]

This is incredible. This is gonna change everything

[@BiblicallyAccurateToaster]

Excellent advancements being made.

[@AK-xe2ly]

Is this the voice from audit the audit

[@VanillaSpooks]

I don’t understand a single thing you said but this goes crazy

[@kaedenlivesey1980]

Now just some sort or mechanical joint locks to react to grabing and touching and boom, perfect gloves

[@enzoys]

so amazing! by the way what is the difference between the red and black circles of the finger in the simulations?

[@galaktikstudio]

Absoultly fascinating tech!

[@SP-ny1fk]

Needs a sensor on the palm also in order to experience volume.

[@BrotherBuzzard]

wow this looks super convenient

[@manuelcosta2319]

What about the "normal" force, when you aply force to something it "aplies" a counter force to the force you apply to it.

[@Tony-op6xf]

1:42. That escalated quickly 😂

[@chro.]

I think it would be really cool (pun intended)to have cooling and heat to make iron feel cold to the touch

[@peterdinkler4950]

"with our brand new Tempsense (TM) technology, you can now feel the cleansing flame of the cyber-hell we're sending you all to for tainting our life's work with all of your disgustingly overused privates!"

[@inserteunnombreapropiado9079]

With time, y'all might as well increase the resolution. That would be interesting.

[@TedBackus]

this would make faster braille reading or communication much easier

[@Readous]

Is the narrator the same guy who narrates Audit the Audit channel?

[@ilyas8659]

i was thinking something like this vr with gloves and gloves to vibrate for example when you open a door in vr the gloves vibrate or when you touch something with your fingers vibrates only the fingers but when you touch something with your whole hands vibrates the whole gloves. also resistance mechanism for example, when you pull something that supposedly needs more pressure or pull, the gloves resist and makes it feel realistic.

[@FlockofSmeagles]

The tech that really needs work is the vive tracker. It's been a decade. It can be smaller.

[@ZabivakaPirate69]

Check out Tundra trackers! I have 3 and they're pretty great~

[@3bladeninja21]

Come on Future Interfaces Group, release the uncut version of the demo 👀

[@vipul972]

This makes me think what if we are in a simulation too 😮

[@genmanyuri]

отличная технология, мне понравилась. А не проще ли было реализовать миостимуляцию?

[@_GRBL]

If this was open sourced it would be a crazy edition to the lucidvr gloves

[@2OXX]

auditing haptic gloves?

[@MeretrixTricks]

This is absolutely amazing! Imagine the possibilities for blind people!

[@Virenss4]

VR Booba is within reach my brothers

[@sWardSer]

Ur so real for this

[@smegmosisjones5645]

Is this the same guy who voices Audit The Audit? Sounds indentical

[@olin9310]

The who, the why, and the what went wrong of Haptic feedback. It's definitely Lack Luster Media lol

[@pedro.alcatra]

Nice to feel textures. But not finger force yet. no trigger mecanism. but we have to start somewhere

[@JDDsingh]

We got 3D Waifu VR before we got GTA6

[@unseenbirb3247]

im nerdin out thinkin about these gloves

[@nyanpig430]

@Audit the Audit, Is this you⁉

[@dra6o0n]

Why not use some sort of speaker/vibration oriented haptic feedback where sound waves would be what creates those physical sensations on the skin? Now whether you can miniaturize the components used to emit sound frequency via vibration would be another matter. Now, how do you 'spread' the haptic to specific areas would be a interesting concept to work with.

[@CygnusLaboratorys2056]

this is kinda crazy innovative

[@DominicRyanOsborne]

Noting that the pads for the finger tips are solid and flat Is the plan to have them woven into a second skin style suit at some point with 1 or 2 layers for ultra fine and and outer layer for more coarse haptics

[@MiTheMer]

This looks amazing o:

[@EveryBeardHasAStory]

Now how to apply temperature to these fluids in a meaningful way to represent the objects temp irl. Maybe through the use of a small electrical charge, but cooling would be something else entirely.

[@manslaughter5486]

This would be great as a braile display

[@humantwist-offcap9514]

Wait a sec… this is the voice of audit the audit. This guy’s voice is everywhere