Flute & Trumpet Orchestration

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Gil Evans Inside Out

Gil Evans Inside Out

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In this video I show many examples of different flute and trumpet orchestrations. Enjoy listening to the different examples, and give them a try yourself.
Thanks to:
@hannahdarroch1245
@trumpetfredrik
@gabrielcassaro
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0:00 Intro
0:26 Flute & trumpet in octaves
4:18 Flute & trumpet in unison
6:36 With 4-part harmony
8:00 Different combinations
14:24 Voicings with 1 or 2 flutes
If you are really into harmony, you'll enjoy my Intermediate Workbook. You can get it here: ko-fi.com/s/47c236ec92
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Closed voicing, open voicing, jazz harmony, music theory, Miles Davis, big band, soli, jazz chords, orchestration, miles ahead, ravel, stravinsky, sammy nestico

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@gilevansinsideout
@gilevansinsideout 2 ай бұрын
Woah, I just hit 4k subs, amazing! Especially for such niche content. I think I'll do a Q&A in celebration. If you have any arranging, music theory or Gil Evans questions. Just comment them below!
@8bitMusicTheory
@8bitMusicTheory 5 ай бұрын
Phenomenal! Hearing all of these variations on the same phrase is so much more helpful than any orchestration textbook. Looking forward to more!
@gilevansinsideout
@gilevansinsideout 5 ай бұрын
Thanks! Yes, I’ve got some fun combinations planned
@Jwellsuhhuh
@Jwellsuhhuh 5 ай бұрын
Bro roasted all orchestration textbooks LOL
@Lukematt83
@Lukematt83 5 ай бұрын
Fancy seeing you here 8bitmusictheory
@kyle-silver
@kyle-silver 5 ай бұрын
The overtones in the trumpet/flute unison passage are BANANAS
@gilevansinsideout
@gilevansinsideout 5 ай бұрын
It’s a cool combination isn’t it!
@Qermaq
@Qermaq 5 ай бұрын
With rhythmic lines for flute and muted trumpet, adding a glockenspiel or xylophone adds a lot. Joe Raposo made great use of that color in a LOT of his work.
@gilevansinsideout
@gilevansinsideout 5 ай бұрын
Oh I don’t know if his work, I’ll check it out
@Qermaq
@Qermaq 5 ай бұрын
@@gilevansinsideout He wrote the theme to Three's Company (the US version of Robin's Nest) and a lot of music for early Sesame Street, among other work.
@tommyron
@tommyron 5 ай бұрын
I could listen to your 4-part close harmony in octaves ALL DAY. In my symphonic writing a favorite combination is muted trumpet with flute + picc. in UNISON at the octave. Depending on the texture you can clarify the attacks by adding some combination of celesta + vibes. Thanks as always Alex and happy 2024!
@gilevansinsideout
@gilevansinsideout 5 ай бұрын
Oh that sounds like another magical combination Tom! Do you have a recording of that anywhere? Thanks for your comment and support, have a great holiday season.
@gilevansinsideout
@gilevansinsideout 5 ай бұрын
If you are enjoying this content, check out my latest video where I've added clarinet and bass clarinet to this mix. kzbin.info/www/bejne/r5-olp1tnqdld6M
@MrLoris85
@MrLoris85 5 ай бұрын
Also Bolero: French Horn and Piccolo. The Piccolo is doubling the overtones of the french horn. It is like 'umami' for your eardrums! I think I remember Bizet doing the same in L'Arlesienne. Check it out!
@gilevansinsideout
@gilevansinsideout 5 ай бұрын
Totally! Will do
@MrLoris85
@MrLoris85 5 ай бұрын
@@gilevansinsideout Oh I checked it myself and it wasn't l'arlesienne unfortunately. But an interesting piece anyway.
@RonaldPoe
@RonaldPoe 5 ай бұрын
Trumpets and Flutes go together well. You're arrangements are also quite nice. As a Yoko Shimomura fan, I find doubling violins with the treble of the piano is another excellent combination.
@gilevansinsideout
@gilevansinsideout 5 ай бұрын
Thank you. Yes I agree with the piano.
@TheExpiriment
@TheExpiriment 4 ай бұрын
I sto- uh i mean was inspired by this little section, and how well they blend together and made a little seasonal piece by it
@gilevansinsideout
@gilevansinsideout 4 ай бұрын
Oh cool! Do share
@nickbowd
@nickbowd Ай бұрын
This is fully sick brah. Love the kiwi floating away. In all seriousness though. I wish I’d come across this channel ages ago. I got lots of big band charts to orchestrate so this will be super useful.
@gilevansinsideout
@gilevansinsideout Ай бұрын
Much appreciated!
@gabrielcassaro
@gabrielcassaro 5 ай бұрын
This is a true masterclass Alex! This is so valuable.
@gilevansinsideout
@gilevansinsideout 5 ай бұрын
Thank you for contributing Gabriel.
@jansestak954
@jansestak954 5 ай бұрын
This is great! Such a useful video. Looking forward to try some of them for myself. Thank you!
@gilevansinsideout
@gilevansinsideout 4 ай бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@Jordu7
@Jordu7 5 ай бұрын
Great addition to your channel. What a great variety of endless choices. Thanks Alex & friends for these detailed examples. I'm looking forward to the next illustrations of instrument voicings! When talking trumpets, another mellow timbre is often realized using a fluegelhorn. Another interesting instrument combination in my opinion is trumpet and soprano sax. I'm thinking about Steve Lacy in the album Gil Evans and Ten. It's beyond my skills to really analyze what's going on, but the beginnung of Nobody's Heart presents some very nice voicings (including minor seconds I would think).
@gilevansinsideout
@gilevansinsideout 5 ай бұрын
Thank you. Yes the soprano sax is an interesting beast! Flugelhorns are always so nice.
@epytomeproductionz7571
@epytomeproductionz7571 5 ай бұрын
This piece is beautiful
@MassiveBridge52
@MassiveBridge52 5 ай бұрын
This is awesome and very inspiring!! The sounds blend so unbelievably well. Thank you so much for making these awesome videos
@gilevansinsideout
@gilevansinsideout 5 ай бұрын
Glad you like them!
@joseantoniopadillagutierre7338
@joseantoniopadillagutierre7338 2 ай бұрын
Buenísimo......
@ChataniMusic
@ChataniMusic 5 ай бұрын
Such quality content
@jsem94
@jsem94 2 ай бұрын
Zero dislikes and it ought to stay that way.
@romandegtiarev
@romandegtiarev 5 ай бұрын
Oh wow! This is gold! Thank you so much for your videos!
@gilevansinsideout
@gilevansinsideout 5 ай бұрын
You are so welcome!
@shaunfinnegan6546
@shaunfinnegan6546 5 ай бұрын
Thanks for all these examples, nothing beats hearing it!
@gilevansinsideout
@gilevansinsideout 5 ай бұрын
Yes I agree!
@RotemCinamon
@RotemCinamon 5 ай бұрын
Thank you! Beautiful music of yours as well
@gilevansinsideout
@gilevansinsideout 5 ай бұрын
Many thanks!
@JoshLucan
@JoshLucan 5 ай бұрын
Yes, keep going with these! I learned so much. I actually like the arrangements that expose the inner harmonies. They’re really interesting.
@gilevansinsideout
@gilevansinsideout 4 ай бұрын
Thanks Josh!
@ZapphireWulff
@ZapphireWulff 4 ай бұрын
This video is perfectly timed for me, you knew 2 weeks ago, and KZbin recommended knows too!! 😄 I'm working on some big band compositions and happen to be writing some tunes that maybe should have some flute-trpt combos, so it's great to see pretty much all the combinations (octave, uni, mutes, orchestrated, etc.). Great video, thank you! 🎶
@gilevansinsideout
@gilevansinsideout 4 ай бұрын
Oh that’s excellent! I hope your compositions go well.
@ZapphireWulff
@ZapphireWulff 4 ай бұрын
@@gilevansinsideout Thank you!
@bashtracks
@bashtracks 5 ай бұрын
Great stuff, as always!
@gilevansinsideout
@gilevansinsideout 5 ай бұрын
Thank you! Cheers!
@julienmarocco
@julienmarocco 5 ай бұрын
Excellent ! Thanks a lot !
@gilevansinsideout
@gilevansinsideout 5 ай бұрын
You are welcome!
@luccano
@luccano 5 ай бұрын
awesome! great pleasures of life also within this one
@gilevansinsideout
@gilevansinsideout 5 ай бұрын
Haha yes well spotted 😁
@ellybargmusic
@ellybargmusic 5 ай бұрын
Ooo that's such a cool idea that I haven't tried yet! Will definitely incorporate this into some of my upcoming work, thank you so much for the inspiration ♥
@gilevansinsideout
@gilevansinsideout 5 ай бұрын
You're so welcome!
@TheExpiriment
@TheExpiriment 4 ай бұрын
aw man that was my idea
@gilevansinsideout
@gilevansinsideout 2 ай бұрын
Haha
@trumpetfredrik
@trumpetfredrik 5 ай бұрын
Great work! I'm really happy I could contribute!
@gilevansinsideout
@gilevansinsideout 5 ай бұрын
Me too! Thanks Fredrik
@tomphillpotts
@tomphillpotts 3 ай бұрын
Yeah awesome I never realized I was listening to flute and trumpet there in bolero, schooled!
@gilevansinsideout
@gilevansinsideout 3 ай бұрын
It’s cool aye? Thanks Tom
@dieg0o0s
@dieg0o0s 5 ай бұрын
Sublime! Great video and examples as always Alex. My favorite tpts with Harmon and 2 flutes in 6ths. Cups not bad btw 🤩 ❤
@gilevansinsideout
@gilevansinsideout 5 ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@davidalejandropina9120
@davidalejandropina9120 5 ай бұрын
You have a a new subscriber!!!🎉🎉 I love your video
@gilevansinsideout
@gilevansinsideout 5 ай бұрын
Thank you! Enjoy the content
@martialpanyvino
@martialpanyvino Ай бұрын
Quand on combine flûtes et trompettes, le choix le plus commun d'orchestration est de doubler la trompette une octave au dessus à la flute. C'est tout d'abord lorsqu'on attribue une mélodie à ces deux pupitres, comme c'est le cas dans Petrouchka de Stravinsky, ou dans le boléro de Ravel. Dans les extraits de ces deux pièces, la flûte double donc la mélodie de la trompette à l'octave supérieure (à noter que Ravel décide dans sa pièce d'écrire la trompette con sordino pour mieux fondre le timbre de la trompette dans celui de la flûte). Mais cela s'observe également lors de divisi à ces deux pupitres, comme c'est le cas dans l'orchestration des tableaux d'une exposition de Moussorgsky par Ravel. On y observe un divisi de trompettes à trois voix, dont les flûtes doublent à l'octave supérieure les deux voix les plus aiguës. Il s'agit plus précisément d'un tutti d'orchestre issu de La grande porte de Kiev, ce procédé d'orchestration étant extrêmement courant dans les tutti d'orchestre. On notera que sur les temps forts, la mélodie est entendue à trois voix, sur deux pupitres, mais que sur les contre-temps elle est allégée à une voix seulement sur ces deux même pupitres, afin de ne pas affaiblir les temps forts, et de ne pas alourdir le passage musical (voir 4:10). Il existe différents types de sourdines pour la trompette, chacun colorant différemment le timbre de l'instrument. Tout d'abord, le "Straight Mute" est la sourdine par défaut, utilisée dans la plupart des pièces de musique classique, et notamment dans le Boléro évoqué plus haut. Il y a ensuite le "Cup Mute" et le "Harmon Mute" qui possèdent tout deux une couleur caractéristique du jazz. Ce dernier notamment est très prisé par l'arrangeur jazz Gil Evans. Il est extrêmement courant en jazz d'écrire ces deux pupitres à quatre voix, et de doubler donc à l'octave supérieure la trompette par la flûte. Avec les différentes combinaisons de sourdine (le "Straight Mute" étant également de mise en jazz), on peut obtenir une large palette de couleurs timbrales. Il est également possible de choisir différentes combinaisons de sourdines au sein même du pupitre des trompettes, avec par exemple le choix d'une sourdine colorée comme le "Harmon Mute" pour la mélodie, et un autre type de sourdine pour les autres voix. Lorsqu'on a moins de flûtes, on peut se satisfaire de doubler les trois voix les plus aiguës si on a trois flûtes, les deux voix les plus aiguës si on en a deux, voire la mélodie seule si on a qu'une flûte. Il est également possible lorsqu'on ne dispose que d'une flûte de ne pas lui attribuer la mélodie mais plutôt de doubler une autre voix à l'octave supérieure. On prendra alors soin de vérifier la relations d'intervalles entre la mélodie à la trompette et la voix doublée par la flûte, en fonction de l'effet voulu. Enfin, il est possible de doubler de temps à autre les trompettes à l'unisson par les flûtes, dans le registre moyen-grave de ces dernières, en prenant soin de l'équilibre de nuances entre ces deux pupitres. Dans un tel registre en effet, les flûtes ne peuvent pas se projeter forte, tandis que les trompettes ont cette tendance naturelle à ressortir. C'est un paramètre sur lequel joue notamment Gil Evans, afin de faire émerger de temps à autre le timbre des flûtes de celui des trompettes.
@RHINOPLASM
@RHINOPLASM 5 ай бұрын
Brilliant! The sounds are great! It makes a difference to hear real instruments playing.
@gilevansinsideout
@gilevansinsideout 5 ай бұрын
Thanks! Yes hearing the real instruments is always the best.
@JClydeNealMusic
@JClydeNealMusic 5 ай бұрын
Got damn that four part harmony is beautiful!!!!!!
@gilevansinsideout
@gilevansinsideout 5 ай бұрын
Excellent! What orchestration of it do you like best?
@JClydeNealMusic
@JClydeNealMusic 5 ай бұрын
⁠@@gilevansinsideoutthe harmony with the flutes an octave higher than the open trumpet with harmon mute. The timbre that it creates gave me goosebumps.
@gilevansinsideout
@gilevansinsideout 5 ай бұрын
Oh cool! I think you’ll like some of the combos I have coming up then 😁
@solidsnake2259
@solidsnake2259 5 ай бұрын
I’m a trumpet player. Dated a lot of flute players in college!
@danellewilbraham
@danellewilbraham 5 ай бұрын
FYI, Harmon mutes can be played with or without the stem. For clarity, it’s best to specify which you want. For more unique sounds, check out Lyric straight and Solotone mutes. 😊
@gilevansinsideout
@gilevansinsideout 5 ай бұрын
Thanks. I’m actually a lapsed trumpet player myself! I didn’t want to get too much into the mute details on this one, otherwise the video would be quite long. I’ll probably make another video with other combinations including some other mutes in the future. Thanks for your comment
@danellewilbraham
@danellewilbraham 5 ай бұрын
@@gilevansinsideout once a trumpet player, always a trumpet player! 😁 I have actually seen a fair amount of Harmon with stem in the orchestral setting - more than in other settings, where it’s usually without stem. The two sounds might as well be two different mutes, that’s why I mentioned it for those watching who may not be familiar with all of the fun toys at our disposal.
@gilevansinsideout
@gilevansinsideout 5 ай бұрын
Thanks, yes very true
@counterfit5
@counterfit5 5 ай бұрын
​@@danellewilbrahamnot true! I have been cured of my trumpet playing ways!
@counterfit5
@counterfit5 5 ай бұрын
Also there's some Gunther Schuller work that calls for half stem Harmons in all the non-tuba brass.
@davidriggs1555
@davidriggs1555 5 ай бұрын
That trumpet player is amazing
@davidriggs1555
@davidriggs1555 5 ай бұрын
flute in unison with tpt cup mute is the greatest thing Ive heard
@gilevansinsideout
@gilevansinsideout 5 ай бұрын
Yes @trumpetfredrik is awesome! Check out his channel. Yes I'm a fan of the cup mute as well.
@trumpetfredrik
@trumpetfredrik 5 ай бұрын
Thanks! I'm glad you like my playing! :)
@ABC97613
@ABC97613 5 ай бұрын
This was amazing! Thank you, I feel inspired to use it!
@gilevansinsideout
@gilevansinsideout 5 ай бұрын
Oh excellent!
@pongschlap
@pongschlap 5 ай бұрын
given the lack of music (in my experience) written for the euphonium i think you should totally make a video on orchestrating with it. 😊
@gilevansinsideout
@gilevansinsideout 5 ай бұрын
Great suggestion!
@tub-tube7686
@tub-tube7686 5 ай бұрын
I bet that the player in the hay burner example is playing a harmon mute 😁
@TacoAlligator
@TacoAlligator 5 ай бұрын
people should make clash notes use vibrato and they shake back and forth
@gilevansinsideout
@gilevansinsideout 5 ай бұрын
I'm not sure what you mean? You mean have the vibrato a semitone wide so it goes in and out of dissonance?
@rmlu9767
@rmlu9767 4 ай бұрын
A combination I thought during all the video was one or two trumpets at unison playing the melody, and the flutes in mezzo piano or piano playing the harmonies above, avoiding the melody. I would even make some subtle counterpoint in the harmonies. The idea was not to compete against the sonority of the trumpet, but to take advantage of it giving them the melody, and simulate the harmonics of the harmony in the flutes, making it even more fairy. Why two trumpets? Just my obsession with the Chorus effect.
@gilevansinsideout
@gilevansinsideout 4 ай бұрын
Oh that sounds like a great idea. I might have to make another video one day off all the more ‘unusual’ options. I think you’ll like my next video too…
@TheAries414
@TheAries414 5 ай бұрын
I wonder what oboe is comboed with or goes well paired what instrument
@gilevansinsideout
@gilevansinsideout 5 ай бұрын
Oboe goes well with the other winds, in unison or octaves. When its on top of a chord it adds that nice spicy edge to the sound.
@TheAries414
@TheAries414 5 ай бұрын
@@gilevansinsideout it really goes very well with violin it adds a lot of emotion
@notme437
@notme437 5 ай бұрын
That melody is beautiful! Is it from any particular tune or did you write it? :)
@gilevansinsideout
@gilevansinsideout 5 ай бұрын
Thanks, yes I wrote it for this example. I just wanted something that spanned an octave and had long durations so we could hear the timbre clearly.
@MBobLamy
@MBobLamy 5 ай бұрын
The 2nd flute part is missing a natural sign on the whole F, 4th measure (that's in the last examples of the videos)
@gilevansinsideout
@gilevansinsideout 5 ай бұрын
Oh well spotted! It’s annoying when mistakes are left in. I even talk about the minor 2nd 😂 I’ll leave a correction note
@austinskeffington3248
@austinskeffington3248 5 ай бұрын
It’s an awesome sound. You better hope your musicians have their intonation locked in though 😂
@MJWPub
@MJWPub 5 ай бұрын
I ended up with a flute, trumpet combo on the intro of a piece I've just recorded; balance just didn't sound right any other way!
@gilevansinsideout
@gilevansinsideout 5 ай бұрын
Oh excellent 😀
@alexanderpapazov5441
@alexanderpapazov5441 5 ай бұрын
You should try out flute and trombone!
@gilevansinsideout
@gilevansinsideout 5 ай бұрын
Yes I agree. That one will be coming up
@lrcrabbenz
@lrcrabbenz 5 ай бұрын
Harmon trumpet and flute 🫠
@sardi6464
@sardi6464 5 ай бұрын
what is the title of this song 1:35
@gilevansinsideout
@gilevansinsideout 5 ай бұрын
bolero by Ravel
@natekaplowitz
@natekaplowitz 5 ай бұрын
Nice vid but consider changing your microphone for something a little less harsh in the high frequencies! It’s quite hard to listen to because of the register of both instruments
@SpaghettiToaster
@SpaghettiToaster 5 ай бұрын
Although it's not a straight mixture, one of my favorite examples of a texture combining the two instruments is the amazing sparkly piano, flute and trumpet texture in the coda of the first movement of Rachmaninoff's third concerto: kzbin.info/www/bejne/l4S7pYuCdruaoac
@gilevansinsideout
@gilevansinsideout 5 ай бұрын
Oh thanks, I’m going to have a listen to that
@SpaghettiToaster
@SpaghettiToaster 5 ай бұрын
@@gilevansinsideout So what'd you think?
@gilevansinsideout
@gilevansinsideout 5 ай бұрын
Yes I enjoyed it! What a nice moment. Thank you
@aliciadalbey1201
@aliciadalbey1201 5 ай бұрын
Northernlion?
@Savi_I
@Savi_I 5 ай бұрын
But trumpet isnt a c pitched instrument
@gilevansinsideout
@gilevansinsideout 5 ай бұрын
Yeah this one is a Trumpet in Bb. They come in various keys.
@Savi_I
@Savi_I 5 ай бұрын
@gilevansinsideout I mean I know that lol but a lot they are Bb
@syzygy2464
@syzygy2464 5 ай бұрын
Honestly just flute and whatever. Combine flute with a trash can lid and it sounds good. Doesn't really matter, if the flute is played well it's just a beautiful instrument.
@gilevansinsideout
@gilevansinsideout 5 ай бұрын
😄
@mydogisweirdg6128
@mydogisweirdg6128 5 ай бұрын
Im more of a trumpet bari sax type of guy
@gilevansinsideout
@gilevansinsideout 5 ай бұрын
Well stay tuned, that combination will be featured one day
@mydogisweirdg6128
@mydogisweirdg6128 5 ай бұрын
⁠@@gilevansinsideoutit’s more of a jazz combo band sound, but boy do I love it
@gilevansinsideout
@gilevansinsideout 5 ай бұрын
Yeah sure is, I usually use it an octave down from the melody
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