Flutter vs React Native vs NativeScript Startup Speeds on the M1 Mac

Flutter vs React Native vs NativeScript on a M1 mac in a getting started test - this includes creating a new app, building, and running it.
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[@jiteshgarude6031]

Very happy to see flutter is the quickest. Thanks a lot. Yup wanted to see hoe much time it takes for intel machine as well 👍

[@ameysunu5828]

Flutter's build and run time was simply impeccable.

[@sarthakmunjal7007]

since i have bought the m1 mac i have been seeing your videos and they help a lot. i have explored many new things.

[@yashrajpal785]

Yes, I would like to see these tests on intel mac and comparison between m1 and intel

[@raunaknarayan4092]

I thought flutter was a mistake at first because of some in-flexible libraries but now it has been matured substantially

[@spydergs07]

I started using Flutter 2 months ago and love it. I quit using RN.

[@nishanthdipali6838]

@@spydergs07 I like flutter but I hate dart and the setup process Even with golang I love that it's faster but I hate it's methods and syntax

[@laughingvampire7555]

@@spydergs07 Theo says that if you use Flutter you hate your customers, because you can't update your app fast because you with RN you can always update the JS. what do you think about that?

[@johnsane2694]

Really interesting! One more reason to finally try Flutter.

[@andreujuanc]

Flutter is love

[@kuna_dev]

Thanks Alexander! I’m waiting to buy a new mbp until the M1X is out. Love the your videos testing dev tools performance using the M1. I would love to see the same test using an intel chip!

[@guiiimkt]

My M1 Macbook arrives tomorrow. Can't wait! It will be my first Mac ever, wish me luck 😅

[@AZisk]

Good luck 🤞

[@ahmedel-kattan7179]

This videos really help me not to regret ordering the MBP M1 and not waiting for the new M1X/M2, thanks Alex

[@jointtask4047]

Am currelty think of waiting for the M1X or M2 but I just can't wait am going for the M!

[@md.shahinhosen4299]

as a devoloper i love youre videos.

[@cuca7824]

Getting start with flutter. It's promising. Hope they improve it on web

[@LucaFang]

Flutter is the best! Best cross-platform framework!

[@thecashewtrader3328]

Wow

[@josepalemany]

I have an M1 mac and your videos are really useful to me to take decisions.

[@haydenhuynh2178]

Your collab video on SOC with Fireship brought me here. Would love to see more educational content like that!

[@pouyahallaj4445]

I just bought the M1 MacBook Air and your videos helped me a lot! Thanks 😊👍

[@gofullstack]

I know Flutter runs on whatever device you have open however you can do the "flutter run -d ". " flutter devices" will show you the ist of devices you have on.

[@monara97]

I started learning React Native 2 days ago btw👍🏻 great one Alexander. fingers crossed for the parallels license..😃

[@iamsivin]

🤝 thanks for this information. M1 macbook pro owner.

[@asdrubalchirinos]

I'm trying to pick an alternative framework to Xamarin to develop mobile iOS apps this comparison has has been pretty useful. Thanks!

[@rydmike]

Interesting test. Of course with Flutter you would always try a hot reload first, that even keeps the state of the app, and it is instantly ready. In some situations when hot reload does not work, you can do a hot restart, which starts your app from the beginning, with changes applied, but it always works, no rebuilding needed, takes about 1…2secs. So while in a dev session with Flutter it is very rare that you stop the running session/build and rebuild from scratch, there is just no need for it, and when you do, it is pretty fast, as you demonstrated. All in all it provides a very pleasant dev experience.

[@fvl9045]

Same with reacat native

[@MarkoZen81]

Flutter is my favourite. I would appreciate that parallels licence, holding my fingers crossed 🤞

[@elgreengroo]

this channel is my latest discovery. still waiting for what kind of test awaits us with music)

[@AZisk]

What kinds of tests would you want to see?

[@shish_x86]

I guess this is the good time to start learning flutter. Like!

[@chillappreciator885]

Dislike. Run app that runs browser that runs Js code is not what healthy programmer should do

[@avrahamramati6883]

@@chillappreciator885 That’s not what Flutter does 🤷🏽‍♂️

[@m.jamilrahman4971]

@@chillappreciator885 😱

[@swarnavasamanta2628]

@@chillappreciator885 tf are you on about ? Flutter uses a completely different language called dart and dart vm to run these apps. You smoked some serious weed bro. Flutter is unlike react native not javascript based

[@chillappreciator885]

@@swarnavasamanta2628 ok flutter boi

[@marto5083]

In a "Parallel" universe I won the raffle 😆😆. Keep going, your videos are the best, very grateful for your work.

i’m following you for a while, i like your style. please keep going like that. hope you have more subscriber. good luck man :)

[@JayamalShanuka]

Appreciate this video, Yesterday I installed flutter for my M1 air. Yeah, I can say it's really faster than RN.

[@pugmagicman]

Great stuff mr. Ziskind. Keep these awesome videoes coming! They're really informative and helpful :)

[@AZisk]

Thanks. You were awesome in Reservoir Dogs. :)

[@MadTofan]

My 5 years old laptop have dual boot. Ubuntu for development projects and Windows for gaming. Both are then accessed remotely from my iPad either using code-server or Steam link. Due to my laptop having a horrendous battery and requires to be tethered to the outlet. Parallels license will be the final push for me to make call to buy M1 Mac. It has been really tempting, the only reason it was holding me back was due to the incompatibility with eGPU. But I don't care anymore, it's so good that I'll probably end up selling my eGPU rig.

[@margosmat]

Nice video, I tinkered with Flutter about a year ago, maybe I'll give it a try one more time 😁

[@jR-tm3ko]

Crazy timing, my parallels trial is about to run out and was about to buy!

[@durgaraoganta2767]

I'm beginner to native development. Really I don't know when I has initial stage recently I started watching your videos. Now Im very comfortable with native development. Thanks you mister cool tester 😍😎

[@pawmeowzing2906]

compare the app bundle size also

[@TimurBakibayev]

What i would be more interested in, is how fast the app updates during coding. That measured actions are done only once.

[@chaitanyadamarasingu979]

Expecting a comparison video on Flutter web vs React JS

[@achintya-7]

Well the thing with flutter is Most of the time you will do hot reload or hot restart which is even more faster. You might need to stop and restart the app if you are adding a new package in the pubsec.yaml file.

[@DiegoMendoza-br4ol]

Great video, I would like to see how Ionic with Capacitor should do in the comparison

[@DJ-KoltSiewerts]

Could repeat the benchmarks with the M1 Ultra? On the whole internet there's no benchmark for the M1 Ultra that covers this topic. Thank you, dear Alex!

[@RishikantaPukhrambam]

This made me very interested in Flutter. Definitely going to check it out now.

[@mohammadmollaei6278]

I'm really amazed about M1 performance and now looking for an excuse to stop me to buying a brand new Mackbook Pro 13, appreciate for your review.

[@gabob1133]

As always, nice video. I just got the M1 MBA and started exploring it.

[@azatecas]

I love react native, but I definitively want to see what flutter has to offer

[@kerodfresenbetgebremedhin1881]

in terms of performance and production, nothing will beat flutter except of course native.

[@GetInformationToday]

Loved your test

[@wil1531]

Welcome back Alex :) , I enjoy developing with NS8 and its easy access native APIs that I can do more in time.

[@AZisk]

Thanks! I didn’t leave :)

[@wil1531]

@@AZisk haha, I mean happy to see NS logo again in your vids cuz no one did it :)

[@alananayaaraujo2068]

Are you using Rosetta for all projects or native???

[@TheNicolaivlog]

Love your videos man! Looking forward to learn some React from you soon

[@visweshsuri8636]

Your videos are wonderful.I would be lucky to get parallels as i need to send my PC data to my computer. Thanks

[@withassuan]

Catchy. Like your entertaining style )

[@VolkerKtnbch]

Will buy a M1x MBPro immediately when it comes out

[@relvisgonzalez7485]

Very interesting video Alex, I can't wait to get my hands on a new Mac with M chip, but I will wait until M2 comes out.

[@user-si3ux9sv9e]

Thank you very much for your videos. From them I know that all my programs work on m1. Sometimes not so good, for example Android Studio. But I hope this will be solved soon. And I'm still waiting for June - maybe Apple will show the new mac on the m1x/m2. And decided to take the m1 pro, if they don't introduce new ones.

[@tiagooliveira3551]

I learned flutter in a couple of days and for me I think that is a good programming language. And is very fast!

[@raihanameen]

Great work Alex..👍🏻and Parallels is my favorite software too...

[@Br0adCastYourS3lf]

Alexander, Apple explains on their developer website that iOS apps can be tested and debugged directly on Apple Silicon Macs without use of a simulator. **Ideal to cut out the memory used by simulators**. But how usable is this really? The docs only mention that TestFlight doesn't work on MacOS. Just looking for your opinion or experience with this way of testing and debugging. The following is the relevant bit from that page: **Test Your App on macOS** Xcode supports debugging, testing, and profiling your iOS app natively on Macs with Apple silicon. When you open your iOS project in Xcode 12 or later, you have the option to build your app and run it directly on macOS. This option doesn’t run your app in a Simulator; it runs it as an iOS App for Mac. You can then test whether your app’s features work as expected. App Store features for iOS continue to work when your app runs on macOS, including: In-app purchases and subscriptions App capabilities and entitlements On-demand resources App thinning When you use app thinning to optimize your app for different devices and operating systems, the App Store selects the resources and content that offer the best fit for the Mac. It then removes any other resources to create a streamlined installation of your app. When you export your app from Xcode 12 or later, you can test the thinning support using the Mac virtual thinning target. TestFlight isn’t available on macOS. When you’re ready to distribute your app to users, create an archive and export it using the Ad-Hoc or Development distribution method. During the export process, Xcode creates an appropriately signed app for you to distribute to your testers. For more information, see Distributing Your App to Registered Devices.

[@RomaKovalenko]

Thank you for amazing video

[@jvrviegas]

Really good these comparatives videos on the M1! Simply the best!!

[@sarthakmunjal7007]

good work and keep on going like this we are here to support you

[@AZisk]

Thank you so much 👍

[@panteleimonstamatakis787]

Hello Mr Ziskind If and when time permits, could you attempt doing a benchmark on the following: - Fusion360 and onShape - Matlab Thank you for your content.

[@anthroponymy]

Intel box I don't need it anymore. But please let us know when can you go live on any application get starting in M1 that should a developer needed in 2021

[@wajdiballout]

This kind of information you’re inputting is very helpful for new “developers” like me, keep doing that it’s good! And I’d love to have a parallels software copy too 👀

[@saulramirez727]

Nice video. Thanks

[@user-bb3ng5or1q]

After watching your videos decided to buy MBA M1. Just ordered, but need to wait up to 8 weeks because of chips shortage.

[@evangelosb5805]

I do enjoy these simple videos

[@korayk35]

Thank you.

[@archtopo9658]

I am learning ionic with vue for cross platform apps

[@nyambe]

Very interesting, did not know there was that much different. Flutter was very slow on my 13” intel MBP. Unusable slow. I have not tried NativeScript on the M1

[@AmitMondal-gc6zk]

Recently I came across this channel and i love the content of this channel. love to see same comparison with Intel systems.

[@AZisk]

Thanks

[@sosid23]

Pls do these build tests on an Intel mac as well ... perhaps a more complex app? Would be interesting to compare M1 vs intel times for such builds.

[@marellimichele]

Awesome video as always!

[@_boris]

found out about you on fireship's channel, great content, keep it up 👍

[@AZisk]

Welcome 🙏

[@ashujain8249]

Great stuff, keep going 👍

[@iabdousd]

Great video Alexander

[@raadkasem]

Best Channel

[@SonnyBrown1965]

Always appreciate an Intel comparison 👍🏼 Thanks.

[@SALEEEEM73]

Thanks for this video....

[@liamconverse8950]

Yeah but what about the app performance from the end user's standpoint?

[@remigoldbach9608]

Nice video! Which cross platform development tool for mobile development is your favorite ? Flutter seems promising, I haven’t looked at Dart yet, but seems neat !

[@AZisk]

I'm a JavaScript dev and come from a .NET background - so I feel right at home using NativeScript. And most of my projects are Angular so that's a natural pick.

[@DanielCanizzo]

I have a 2 week old M1 16gb of ram and 1TB ssd, but is missing Parallel software to run windows software, Great content, thank you!

[@gabrielgouvea4274]

Great video. BTW flutter support not only hot-reload but there's also a hot-restart in case you change things drasticaly and it is also really fast. I'am not sure about RN or NS but in flutter you can also specify wich device you are targetting so maybe it can reduce a litle not needing to search for a available device. What do you think to test flutter desktop and electron in a next video?

[@njussakka]

Great video again, thanks!

[@hkaya]

Great videos with the m1. I’m still on intel mac not sure to switch. Do you daily drive the m1?

[@AZisk]

Not yet. I’m mostly at home these days, so not much opportunity for laptop use

[@laughingvampire7555]

with Ctrl-A you can go to the start of the command line

[@lookwhoneedsahobbie]

Excited to learn about flutter after this

[@toadlguy]

I am picking up an M1 next week. Costco warehouse will be selling the base model Mac mini for $599. From what I have seen there is very little downside at this time to getting an 8gb model. Unless you are running a lot of apps all at once or doing large video editing projects 8gb seems to run things (Xcode) pretty zippy. Hope I’m right (and hope I can run Parallels on my new box 😉) It will be interesting to see if there is much difference from your tests on an 8gb machine.

[@NAROSTUDIO]

Wanna see you doing a tut on backround services and push notifications as well using core NS or TS NS . Thanks

[@ej0c]

Finally got app published From M1, AND got pull request accepted on NativeScript docs-new for setting up M1. So, pick me!

[@AZisk]

Whoa nice!

[@satyampandey5584]

hey what is the background music name at 5:25 ?

[@hgrosch]

always looking forward to new uploads... will you get an iMac by any chance?

[@jefvanacker1083]

Really interesting video! I would like to see the comparison with your i9 Macbook Pro

[@fatehsinghparab1778]

Zero dislikes. Good going 👍

[@bab1671]

Please do the same tests on an intel Mac. I have an MBAir M1 and previously the 2020 MBAir Intel. The M1 is superior in everything I do. I am very pleased with no fan. The lack of fan noise is awesome. Thanks for the great videos.

[@cesarcarpa7887]

I'm thinking to buy the MB Air M1 with 8GB, May be this enough for not too big project in intellij, small project in VScode, postman and a some chrome/safari tabs? Thanks in advanced, great content!

[@ahmadabuyaman8272]

That was very helpful! thanks! please make sure to make the intel older MacBook version.

[@NicolasSilvaVasault]

while rn can get quite boring of waiting, is by far the best framework to work on hybrid, that and i'm a rn developer so you might think that's my opinion, but after trying flutter for 5 months, i'll stick with rn

[@zyarmandx5005]

appreciate this video, I'm ready to buy a M1 😆

[@nyambe]

Go for it! Just get the base mode if you are not sure yet. Great for most uses

[@eyeofthetiger7]

Wait for the M2 next spring with next gen ARMv9 architecture.

[@murilo-tech]

Great video! Linux is supported using Parallels now? It's possible to run this tests on it?

[@bitfluent]

After Tauri releases iOS builds, you should give that one a test as well!

[@DeutschSpieler]

I would like to see comparisons between the three platforms on m1 and Intel

[@bookswiper]

Great video comparison with intel based cpus would be great

[@abinthomas12914]

Can you give a video on encryption decryption. More specifically encrypted in flutter and decrypt in java aes

[@maxsap]

It would be nice to see if there is any diff between flutter for desktop and mobile