Which one is best for you? Flutter, React Native, Ionic or NativeScript?

Should you learn Flutter? Or is React Native better? What about NativeScript and Ionic? I worked with all of them, here's my comparison.
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[@htt803]

Quick Compare -> 20:20 -> 29:45 -> 36:50

[@allucardster]

Thank you ;)

[@marouaneghoulami4108]

Thanks

[@jeromebourgeois3577]

Thanks 🤗

[@saravananram3740]

watching the entire video gives a better understanding!! but this is helpful for quick glance!! thanks man

[@panjijayasutra1573]

thanks. save my time

[@mehmetesen9385]

When the first video of comparing these frameworks released, I was Flutter junior, now second version is released and I am Flutter expert :))

[@PoulavBiswas]

Do you think flutter can get a complex app in place?

[@mehmetesen9385]

@@PoulavBiswas There are some issues for now but I believe they will be fixed, all we need is just a stronger Dart, especially better multi thread management. Then there will be no difference between natives and Flutter unless you are highly depend on platform specific features.

[@Versole]

Hey, I wanted to ask how was your learning and implementing the process with the flutter. You see I have an idea for an app but I don't know which platform would be the best to choose. I was thinking of learning flutter because there's more attention to it, the code compiles to machine code, and It's the next big thing.

[@emmanueladebiyi2109]

My love for Xamarin though. I wish it was included in this video

[@addtyu6176]

I just puked sorry

[@sicfxmusic]

Hello, 2012 wants you back for a job

[@ulbsualbrykya7141]

I hope this guy's being sarcastic

[@ValdaXD]

Oh. In flutter ... if you don't like a widget default implementation. Or want to edit hardcoded values. You could go and see the implementation and either extend the widget. Or copy/paste the source code to a project file and make your own implementation! I love that 😅😅

[@pragneshchaudhari9351]

Thanks, Max, you're awesome. I always watch your videos to get help and make decisions for my projects and it really works. You're one of the best teachers out there. Keep it up :)

[@SeanCTTR]

I build native apps in React using Capacitor. It works great, and I can use just as many or as few Ionic components as I want. Usually none

[@DavidSmith-ef4eh]

I am thinking of converting a web app to an mobile version as well. This approach is least time consuming. Also, not sure I am going to use Ionic either..

[@nihalkulkarni5929]

Very true, no need of ionic ui, capacitor is the real deal

[@nero1375]

Again, Max is a great teacher and have exquisite timing. This is an internal discussion that I have been taking these days. Thanks for the great work!

[@academind]

Thank you Matheus!

[@mehmetedex]

Friendly documentation and peristence of logic accross a Framework might be the most underlooked neccessity

[@Conceptsexplainedsimply]

Thanks a lot for this, Max. I've been thinking about beginning my side project and I work professionally as an angular developer. It's making me feel really comfortable making my personal project with Ionic because I can take my Angular knowledge and package it with Ionic features to get this app running.

[@mehmetedex]

since the day react native released never had a trace of interest to it all of its downsides made me stay as a native developer until I met Flutter since then future seems bright again for mobile devs who have to ship many different apps in short time

[@harshiii]

Thanks for the detailed comparison! I love the way it systematically compares the all factors.

[@academind]

Thanks a lot Harshil!

[@JoeyMarino83]

Doing an update this year? I feel like Flutter has made some major strides again this year.

[@EmiliaKaida]

Yeah, hoping for an update in this year for app development.

[@DheerajBhaskar]

Amazing analysis. I ovoed this video more than your earlier comparisons on the same subject

[@academind]

Happy to read that Dheeraj, I always do my best to improve my videos :)

[@chandrakant1479]

You Ovoed?

[@dheerajmantena6672]

No.#1 tutor of udemy Max always .......:)

[@AnnBernard]

Thank you! Extremely useful as I try to decide what language/program develop my MVP (app) for my startup

[@henryugochukwu8398]

if u r looking at an MVP, check ionic or framework7 Vuejs Nativescript. They r both awesome for rapid prototyping.

[@mantasltu5811]

Thank you so much, you opened my eyes and helped to generate my choice, i will start from IONIC / Apache Cordova

[@AsifMehedi]

Such a helpful overview of the different options and their relative strengths and weaknesses. Thank you!

[@roelvaneyken211]

I would really like your opinion on this: Hyperview · Native mobile apps, as easy as creating a web site It's a framework built on top of react-native that allows you to serve your app as a collection of XML files generated by the server. So in a sense it allows for server-driven mobile apps (as paradoxical as that sounds).

[@kjul.]

One of the few actually accurate videos on this topic, you clearly know what you're talking about. :)

[@academind]

Thanks a lot, happy to read that!

[@BDYH-ey8kd]

C# is the most beautiful and easy coding language. Atleast when u come from the C and embedded side.

[@i-heart-google7132]

true.

[@mohamedafifi4956]

Absolutely true! Strange to see that Microsoft still did not put Xamarin among the top used mobile development tools!

[@mofiti]

This is excellent stuff! I like the thorough comparisons. As a platform builder the other factors I consider when comparing all of these is: - Include server-side/API as well as non-mobile platform code in the "write-once" consideration. Dart and Swift are less great here, but Kotlin/Java and any JS/TS solution are more ideal with way more and better server-side options. Can I reuse some or all of the UI & biz logic for a desktop or web app? - Actual performance, falling back on native vs web isn't as clear as it once was even for a base. Compare boot times (warm vs cold), battery usage, and rendering/scrolling large views. Capacitor and RN both clock in at ~60FPS which is what the human eye will detect for "smoothness". - Energy usage: related to performance ^ but battery usage is a biggie for anyone going beyond consumer apps and building mission critical stuff (healthcare, etc). - Ease of deployment and updating - Some of these require a full re-submission to the app stores, others have push update capabilities.

[@Maxy12345623254]

Thanks: Very insightful video - thank you for taking the time to share your thoughts! (I also very much enjoyed your video comparing Vue vs React vs Angular) Comment / Opinion (since you asked, I will add to the debate 😆 ): At the surface level, it does seem as though Flutter takes the lead for cross-platform mobile app development. Although, it probably isn't as simple as that. As you mention, using cross-platform technologies can be a real time saver and developers are likely to choose the tools that they will pick up the fastest. E.g. a FE web dev who is strong in React will likely favour React-Native, an Angular developer will likely favour Native Script etc. In the few cases where a mobile app demands a strong android / ios look and feel and / or requires mega performance, it would surely seem as though native development ought to be considered. For example, (thanks to your amazing course!) I am proficient in React web development and would reach for RN over Flutter for cross-platform app, if appropriate. If however, the requirements of the app demanded more than RN could deliver, I would opt directly for writing the app in the native code, rather than pinning my hopes on Flutter having had all of its kinks worked out. This is my opinion as of today, it will likely change in the future as these tools develop and mature (and I am very open to people convincing me otherwise! 😆) Question: Your 'Rich pre-styled components library' scale comparison 20:20mins - for React-Native, are you considering RN as stand alone for this comparison or does this take React Native Expo into account?

[@priyankachoudhary3694]

really helpful analysis as I'm a beginner in app dev and I've started with flutter and I started having a little doubt about how strong java is, so this video really cleared my doubts and now I can learn it further. btw your udemy flutter course is awesome!

[@neneodonkor]

How do you manage the widget in widget concept? I find it awkward

[@Kyudaime04]

Just when I was about to start my Flutter app :)

[@Awesometechgamer]

I would Say NativeScript Is Way more advance and faster Then Both React native and Flutter The Only Problem Is NativeScript is Less popular and has Small Community

[@davidpeng9196]

Very informative, one of the best, plenty of inside details.

[@TheSvs1]

every time Im interested in a new tech I look for what Max has to say about it. And this guys never disappoints.

[@academind]

So happy to read that, thanks a lot!

[@TheSvs1]

@@academind You deserve it buddy :)

[@aabid3375]

I have got two of your courses and they are super amazing...Best tutor of mine till date

[@academind]

Wow, thank you so much for your awesome feedback and support Abidul!

[@jonkerkoorts6265]

Very cool video. Thanks for the insight. Really helped me make my decision. I will be going with Ionic for this next project.

[@nitinmali7430]

Just when I reached half way of your flutter tutorial Max but love all your comparison videos.

[@NoahNobody]

I think Svelte is using NativeScript behind its SvelteNative implementation. I like NativeScript in that you could probably switch between JS frameworks and while transferring the NativeScript knowledge.

[@neneodonkor]

Yes svelte uses nativescript

[@ValdaXD]

The thing about nativescript is the app size i think It' over 20mb or 25 at the minium. Hovewer it's indeed an awesome tech. I was mind blown when i could code directly to java in the NS playground in my browser. And inmediadly have it running in my phone. That's awesome

[@muhammadibtehaj647]

React Native has more jobs than Flutter in Pakistan. But I like Flutter more.

[@shahmirfaisal8162]

Im also from pak😍

[@kaleemullahnizamani7436]

How about Angular and NativeScript

[@tx6723]

Agreed I love native I just like c based languages more than yucky JavaScript

[@NicolasSilvaVasault]

react native has more jobs everywhere in the world, it is freaking obvious, is the most popular of all, but yeah, flutter is a better option but that means you have to learn a completely new language that pretty much no one cares

[@HammadKhanYT]

Same in the US, React Native market is much much stronger than Flutter, I do believe, sticking with Native is the best and safe approach.

[@Albshr77]

Flutter is the future.

[@PULSZERO]

I'm not used to your voice at 1x speed :) thank you btw for all your courses!

[@ShaferHart]

Same lol

[@natetronn]

Can't help but think throwing expo into the mix for react native would bump up its component count. Not an argument for or against any of these, only something to consider.

[@RickyHarline]

Whoa hey hi there man. Been taking your advice and learning about PWAs and hybrid platforms. Funny seeing you here!

[@thinalahugoda1860]

My opinion flutter is very easy and fast for me.

[@jajasaria]

Flutter is the best!

[@DavidSmith-ef4eh]

This. In term of developer experience and in terms of performance. But I can see myself using capacitor (without ionic) for some projects as well.

[@vitalii1372]

Hey! You always say “Swift & Objective-C” but forget Kotlin when talks about Android ))

[@Gyaan722]

Thank you so much for giving such an effective comparison...

[@ayushgupta5141]

I am with Native script. I checked the documentation and there isn't a really high learning curve. You can get going with Angular or Vue and all that changes is the template. Nothing more.

[@mechmel]

This is a very well done comparison!

[@adimardev1550]

very detailed comparison. thanks man,

[@SahharYoucef]

Can you please make a comparison between different server-side frameworks as nodejs, django, aqueduct, spring...

[@AnuragSunmugam2201]

very nicely explained and clear all my doubts. Thanks a lot.

[@AbhishekGupta-de5bu]

Best Tutor max And Your React Course is the Best

[@academind]

Thank you so much Satyam, this really means a lot to me!

[@akash-kumar737]

Summary of the video is that you will be left still confused which to choose because most of us need a solid answer and video didn't provide that. Let me tell you if you are very serious of Native App Development then there is only one option that is Flutter. It's worth learning.

[@academind]

Well, in the end I can just share my thoughts, YOU are building the app so no one can take away that final decision from you.

[@nttbiana]

I would choose easy-to-learn framework to build a mobile app quickly so I can build more app in less time & make more $$$. Future support is important too. GG+ went obsoleted, so as flutter

[@eren1301312]

Is that comparison still necessary after Flutter2? :) Code once, get natively compiled apps for Android, IOS, Web, MacOS and Linux with Flutter!

[@Jazz-fh5yz]

Is dart is similar to java?

[@tk7577]

Thank you so much nicely covered all aspects!!

[@erykczajkowski8226]

Is it just my impression, or according to this comparison Ionic simply crushes competitors if you're not building a specialized app that uses lots of native features and/or requires incredible performance?

[@ShaferHart]

He seems to like Ionic a lot. I already know angular so I'm thinking of just buying his Ionic course so I can add Ionic to my resume.

[@nihalkulkarni5929]

I have been using ionic since a year, Pros :- it really as simple as building a website Cons :- some native plugins are real pain in ass

[@waelhi8938]

How about xamarin? Does xamarin can compete with these 4 options?

[@nero1375]

In my opinion, all these options that Max gather, are way superior then Xamarin. Flutter in my opinion is the best way if you are treading without Javascript.If you have some knowledge if web in general (Vue) for example, Nice to go with Nativescript. Again, my opinion.

[@bongangcobo]

@@nero1375 our are all these options way superior than Xamarin? i would love to know

[@bongangcobo]

how are they superior?* my bad

[@nero1375]

@@bongangcobo thank you for asking these questions. I will do more researches to have a better grounds to answer that. The way that I will answer, needs more time because of my vocabulary hahahah

[@bongangcobo]

Matheus Felipe great cause I work in facts, and there are multiple reasons why Xamarin is the better option

[@dennisosamuyimen6378]

Max made me love flutter...max my hero..

[@sgomez8194]

I just started learning web development and plan to learn the following “stack” to build native apps in the future: Javascript Vue JS VuetifyJS Nativescript Express JS MongoDB Does anyone think this is a path that would be easy to learn? Or would you recommend something else?

[@kaidohussar]

Hey dude. Id like to share some insight because I have already been on that path you seem to be on. I also started with Vue when I transitioned to front-end development, but the reality is that not many companies use it. It is still relatively new and usually large scale applications run on react. When I started working as a front-end developer I had to learn react from scratch and leave Vue behind - so I would check what nearby companies in your area use, and IF they really do use VueJS already, go ahead, if not - start with react. Maybe start learning Express and Mongo when you have decent base level with front end technologies. No opinion on Nativescript ;)

[@carlosmariosarmientopinill2019]

I don't think Vuetify is something you have to learn like the other technologies, is just a set of features that you can use in a vue app. It's like learning new html tags. I think that before Express Js you should learn node (I really recommend the course from Max) unless you have node included in your ExpressJs tag. Finally I'd recommend learning Nativescript last (although I would recommend learning flutter instead) because you would tipically need to fetch from an API so I think that's a good opportunity to practice your Express knowledge instead of using firebase

[@sgomez8194]

Kevin Cho for now I want to learn to build my own apps, not necessarily job related. AngularJS is what I believe is used at my job and I am sure I will learn that framework, but I will eventually want to learn a stack that will allow me to build my own apps, and also make me more marketable in the future.

[@erykczajkowski8226]

@@sgomez8194 I chose similar path due to similar reasons: Vue, Vuex, Vue resource, Node, Express, Sequelize.

[@YoungDen]

@@sgomez8194 - If it is for your own apps I would say go with Dart/Flutter and add in their Python for automation. You get to focus on getting code up in running quickly and less time debugging.

[@tal32123]

My main concern is that one of these will stop supporting the framework.

[@devdin8157]

What about xamarin? Has anyone compared it to these? What do you think? You should update this video for 2020.

[@RodolfoRamos0]

Which one is the best for “offline” first and offline database??

[@JohnDoe-rb4fl]

I think the offline first is totally independent of the language... Bacause if you want make a PWA/Ionic offline first, you can using Indexed DB or PuchDB

[@gauravxdhingra]

Love this video. Thanks for covering this topic :-)

[@gouravgond561]

I am using Angular Should I go for Native Script or Ionic

[@ELITECULTURE]

Great video! Could you do a quick post/screenshot incorporating xamarin and KivyMD? THANK YOU

[@sooprano]

I go with Flutter

[@academind]

Not the worst choice ;)

[@nttbiana]

I see more jobs for react-native in SValley than flutter. Like GG+, it goes nowhere & It can become obsolete someday too since its in opensource category

[@ShingoSAP]

@@nttbiana Yeap but Google is betting for it with projects like Fuchsia (open source). Flutter is the next big thing.

[@bulp9893]

I definitely took react or native script because google confusing with go lang ,angular and dart but each one is unique and best so as a human I avoid my work load and choose a single language to do all work like javascript.✌

[@orlovskyconsultinggbr2849]

I like more Flutter, Dart is very familiar to Java language, so its more mature then java script and behind Flutter is Google which should say and show where next default platform would be.

[@SaiyanJin85]

Actually for nativescript there are talks about implementing react

[@MrDanikrok]

SaiyanJin85 beta implementation is already here, as well as svelte’s one.

[@SaiyanJin85]

@@MrDanikrok That's cool. Developers should pay more attention to Nativescript imo. It's so versatile. Performance is very good. I tried all other framewroks and their performance is not better imo again.

[@TheMagnetShow]

Honestly, no one cares. Do you really think people will use that over React Native?

[@Dylan7lejoker56]

Flutter is the Flutur

[@mohamedhassan9241]

Best comparison ever based on real criteria

[@MaximilianBerkmann]

It would interesting to see the comparison with those, Capacitor, Framework7 and Vue Native. I wonder where Quasar (if it were to be included) would fit in this.

[@sabardjatmiko]

which app can finish project only in one week ??? the winner is ionic..

[@khaledayashy2276]

Max you didn't talk about development performance and debuging tools of each solution. (like hmr in {N}) . Also the app(apk) size of empty project with every one of them.

[@academind]

There are certainly always points you could add here, these are just my thoughts in the end.

[@ramsayclips4341]

Thank you so much. I really love watching your video. it's informative. you are amazing. thank you so mush sir

[@smhmkkh]

You forgot to mention that react native can be extremely buggy. Just yesterday i tried it, i installed expo and right after the installation i get 18 vulnerabilities warning i tried npm audit fix and many other things but could only get a fee to go away, it’s also worth mentioning that 8 of them were leveled as high risk vulnerabilities were the others were moderate, and what is even weirder is that it installed perfectly fine on another computer. To be honest i loved writing code for it as i love react but, security risks are a big no no to any business so i am learning flutter now.

[@NuwaHWeil]

Yeah same here, I spend almost a day to fix a 'little' error just to set up the react native CLI, and with high warning though... I'll give Flutter a try

[@unladpinoytv]

Up for flutter!

[@abdullahabd7677]

I am gonna wait out for vue native.

[@abdulazeezolanrewaju843]

Me too

[@otaviocr9434]

Vue native its a wrapper

[@otaviocr9434]

Wrapped in react native code*

[@wissevoortman9031]

you can use nativescript with vue

[@nizamahami]

Watched on 28/07/201 in india Good Analysis 👍🏻 Valuable 👍🏻

[@addtyu6176]

Hello... my name is Xamarin. Can I join the party?

[@kamrant8915]

Thank you for the best comparison

[@Car5540]

I want to be able to build web apps as well as android and ios application (all with not large amount of learning for all platforms). Need Help please I am totally confused.

[@kokizzu]

23:06 NativeScript documentation is fine tho '__')

[@msvmanikantasrivishnu7788]

Best tutor.

[@WeirdSide]

Why would you need a component to act differently on android than on ios? is the ui between the two that different?

[@rabbabansh]

awesome awesome awesome comparison, really helpful!

[@oleglazarenko8295]

useful info, thanks! I used to write react/redux apps so will try to learn react native.

[@SeanCTTR]

It really felt so much different to me than just writing a react app, using react native. You should try just building your app with react and using capacitor for Native apis and building.

[@mannyzira]

Hey I've been watching your videos for a while. Is there any chance you're also looking into developing web components? I'd love to see you compare Stencil, Polymer, lithtml, etc.

[@mohamedafifi4956]

He has a course on exactly that at Udemy.

[@phoenixkiula9554]

Now in 2020, Flutter is racing ahead.

[@triple3way]

thanks max , your words are making a difference

[@academind]

Happy to read that John, thank you so much :)

[@nematjonabdulloev3568]

How about new engine Hermes in React Native? Does it boost performance?

[@ujjalkar3243]

Yes its really cool u should enable it

[@ijazkhan3335]

it boosts performance as well as decreases apk size

[@benrapha3872]

Thank you very much Sir, it has been helpful

[@ocoolsanni2803]

Could you kindly add framework7 to your list of comparisons next time

[@slickdude2]

Ionic w/ react?

[@logicstv]

How’s the learning curve?

[@Akanio_Vatheros]

Hmmm, fairly certain this isn't what POSTcontent meant by flutter, or was it? 🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔

[@mohammedhisham107]

Please make a 2022 version of this video!

[@onlylooser1]

Best comparison I ever saw!😁 Please add also Xamarin.IOS, Xamarin.Android and Xamarin.Forms to list

[@HimanshuSharma-us1gz]

you are so popular here in india among students, can you tell us happy independence day...?

[@idlevandal69]

Hi Himanshu, happy Independence day 🇮🇳 from Australia. 🇦🇺

[@HimanshuSharma-us1gz]

@@idlevandal69 thankyou Vandal

[@Contractor48]

Max, i wish you can make app courses like payment app, messaging app, etc on subscription service on your website like fireship does in his website. I was looking for some apps to practice, sadly you don’t have that. I had to buy his subscription instead. Please let me know if you plan to do that so I can plan my subscription accordingly.

[@WeHoBo]

Anyone here have experience with Onsen UI? Their Vue integration looks amazing so I'm looking to pick it up. It's between Onsen, Ionic, or NativeScript for me.

[@scottmcmahon7209]

I have been told by another developer who tried to use nativescript to make an app and he told me that nativescript is very buggy for he found certain functionality issues in the app he built was due to nativescript itself and not the core he had written. Have you encountered these issues with nativescript?

[@natgenesis5038]

Is it possible to mix all of them or some languages in one app for particular purposes? Sorry I’m not software engineer ,if you find out this funny or silly .

[@angelina3069]

What About Xamarin???????????

[@academind]

Don't have a lot of experience with it, that's why it's not included.

[@joshydrama38]

Why no Xamarin

[@pguti778]

Good video, please include comparison development IDEs