Flux For BGA Reballing Rework

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Nik Telio

Nik Telio

Күн бұрын

Hello, this is a short video about the fluxes that i use for BGA repairs Reballing - Rework.
i have used KINGBO RMA-218, AMTECH NC-559 and 4300LF/TF, SRA TF5000, WARTON METALS rework flux, liquid rosin and paste flux,
The flux that i use many years for all my BGA repairs is Warton Metals Future HF Rework Jelly, it does a very good job and leaves almost no residue.
It is best to use fluxes that do not contain any harmful materials
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@hermannschmidt9788
@hermannschmidt9788 5 жыл бұрын
The original (!) Amtech beats all the other fluxes which I had tested. It has a unique smell and texture. That's how you can tell. It does not burn and leaves no brown residue. The cheap knock-offs from China are ok-ish for easy stuff or desoldering. Yet, they burn up quite early. The Riesba I found to be terrible. Lots of dirt, bad solder flow. ChipQuick also has good fluxes, but for reballing it is a little too liquid. The balls tend to hop out of the masking holes and smear the flux all over the other balls.
@solderkingtv6353
@solderkingtv6353 4 жыл бұрын
So basically the fluxes that you have tried will contain a low boiling point solvent and that is the main cause of brown residue. The SolderKing version leaves clear, clean resides. Oh, we developed the Warton Metals product in this video nearly 15 years ago 😂
@vimalkumarkumawat7511
@vimalkumarkumawat7511 Жыл бұрын
Butiful video thanks
@demontagemontage
@demontagemontage 3 жыл бұрын
thank you
@virathiyam5401
@virathiyam5401 2 жыл бұрын
Well done bro.. liked.. Does these types of fluxes have tin or lead particles pre-added to it for soldering small components with heat gun?
@frantisekvondracek9846
@frantisekvondracek9846 Жыл бұрын
So it is possible to reball IC with stencil and only with flux (for example rma-223), not that gray reballing paste? Thank you
@elecdroid3666
@elecdroid3666 5 жыл бұрын
Do you know the content of flux used for BGA? In fact, if we know the contents, we can do it ourselves. Resin, glycerin and isopropyl alcohol are present in resinous fluxes for general use. But I do not know what is in the content of BGA flux.
@MrFlicefer
@MrFlicefer Жыл бұрын
which flux is the best for reflow only
@j.lietka9406
@j.lietka9406 3 жыл бұрын
What liquid is best for reflow? Lance recommends a non-clean up type. Thanks again for your time & opinions 🤓
@NikTelio
@NikTelio 3 жыл бұрын
Hello, for reflowing i use this liquid rosin flux you see in the video, in my opinion it is the best, you can find it here: www.ebay.de/itm/232364626422?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649 all the fluxes in this video are no clean. it means they are not corrosive and not conductive and you can leave the residue on the pcb.
@AniDormi
@AniDormi 5 жыл бұрын
A quick question about the Warton Metals Rework Jelly. The datasheet says it has a melting point of 50-56c but in the video you say the flux should have a an activation point of ~150c. It doesn't say anything about an 'activation point'. Is the 'melting point' the 'activation point'? Just wondering as I'm about to buy some of the warton metals flux. Thanks
@NikTelio
@NikTelio 5 жыл бұрын
Hello, the melting point is the temperature that the flux paste turns in to liquid, the flux activation point is the temperature that the flux activates and prevents oxides from forming during the soldering process and also removes oxidation from the parts you want to solder.
@AniDormi
@AniDormi 5 жыл бұрын
Nik Telio ahh thank you for clearing that up for me. I’m pretty new to all of this and couldn’t find a reference to the activation point in the spec sheet. I’ve purchased some of the Wharton metals flux now. Thanks for your help.
@pashaitsolution6976
@pashaitsolution6976 4 жыл бұрын
Hello. Is the bga reballing flux is hard to clean? I use that kingbo for smd solder. Seems like it easy to evaporate n hard to clean it
@NikTelio
@NikTelio 4 жыл бұрын
cheap fluxes leave a lot of residue and is sometimes hard to clean, the warton metals flux that i usually use does not leave much residue and is easy to clean. Try to clean the residue while the board is still warm, it is easier
@Josh.Davidson
@Josh.Davidson 2 жыл бұрын
Many AMTECH NC-559-ASM is fake. NC-559-V2-TF is real. I found good results for rework with it. Might try another fluxes though.
@guilhermefrancoaminger8332
@guilhermefrancoaminger8332 4 жыл бұрын
Hello, and have you already tried the new universal flux from Amtech? VS213-a-tf?
@NikTelio
@NikTelio 4 жыл бұрын
Hello, i do not prefer universal fluxes because the are made for soldering using a soldering iron and this means 300c+ temps, which means the have a high activation point, the temperatures needed for reballing are 250c max and we need a low activation point about 150c. That said , it does not mean that it will not do the job, but these fluxes are just not made for this kind of bga repairs.
@KiranKumarblogspot
@KiranKumarblogspot 4 жыл бұрын
To aliign and reballing which flux is good, for lifting the chip amtech fake or original works. But when we put solder balls on the chip when heating with hot air, it never works properly. Any other flux which is available in aliexpress,can u plz suggest
@NikTelio
@NikTelio 4 жыл бұрын
do not use fake flux for bga rework repairs, amtech 559 is a good flux, i use the warton metals rework jelly. do you use direct heat stencils for reballing
@KiranKumarblogspot
@KiranKumarblogspot 4 жыл бұрын
@@NikTelio I'm using traditional old style not direct heat stencil,
@NikTelio
@NikTelio 4 жыл бұрын
@@KiranKumarblogspot then you have to use tacky fluxes to avoid ball migration when heating with hot air, i always use direct heat stencils as you see in my videos because i think ball migration would probably be an issue every time i try to reball.
@sshaikh3878
@sshaikh3878 6 жыл бұрын
Thx for this video very helpful! I have one question, have u ever used QSI flux for reballing?
@NikTelio
@NikTelio 6 жыл бұрын
Hello, i never used QSI flux, you can use many fluxes for reballing but cleaning the flux after the repair is sometimes difficult, that's why i use the Warton metals flux , is a little expensive but cleaning is very easy
@sshaikh3878
@sshaikh3878 6 жыл бұрын
@@NikTelio Thx for reply man!
@Tech_panda0007
@Tech_panda0007 3 жыл бұрын
For bga work, relife 559im(halogen free) is good? Suggest me any relife products
@NikTelio
@NikTelio 3 жыл бұрын
i never used this product but is seems ok for bga rework
@rezakianpour9668
@rezakianpour9668 3 жыл бұрын
Hi have you tried it yet ? i want to use it for bga too
@NikTelio
@NikTelio 3 жыл бұрын
@@rezakianpour9668 no i have not tried it but you can use it if you like , for reflow-reballing i'm using this flux www.ebay.com/itm/233969008364
@Limeayy
@Limeayy 6 жыл бұрын
i like your videos haha
@db1236
@db1236 6 жыл бұрын
Do you prepare the liquid and paste rosin flux yourself? What percentage of rosin and IPA you use?
@NikTelio
@NikTelio 6 жыл бұрын
Hello, i buy it on ebay, i use liquid flux because it is very easy to clean with IPA, in the past i always used flux paste to do my reballings
@db1236
@db1236 6 жыл бұрын
Nik Telio Would you share the link of your liquid flux on ebay?
@NikTelio
@NikTelio 6 жыл бұрын
www.ebay.co.uk/itm/INSAT-RMA-LIQUID-SUPER-FLUX-50ml-NO-CLEAN-ROL0/232364626422?_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIM.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20140725133651%26meid%3D6b33becd456249f38af85a55768ecc3e%26pid%3D100276%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D4%26sd%3D330870255374%26itm%3D232364626422&_trksid=p2060778.c100276.m3476
@WarpPal
@WarpPal 6 жыл бұрын
Did you find out if that Amtech flux is genuine??? And you didn't say how good that SRA TF-5000 is. And have you tried Kester 951 and 186 flux??
@NikTelio
@NikTelio 6 жыл бұрын
i bought the nc-559 $8 (ebay)and i'm sure it is fake but for general use it is really good, the 4300TF $26(ebay) it is suppose to be a good flux for reballing, every seller claims that they sell genuine flux even those from China, unless you buy fluxes from authorized sellers listed on amtech site, i think the rest is fake. i did not test the SRA ($23 ebay) much because i was using the warton metals flux on all my reballings and it expired siting on the shelf :-/ , the thing is that i use direct heat stencils for reballing and it does not meter to me if some flux is the best in the world, if it is bubbling to much then all the balls will fly away from the stencil :D so it is not good for me , if i reballed using a reballing station then i could use a bigger variety of fluxes. No i did not use Kester flux
@Brunosilva-oe2bi
@Brunosilva-oe2bi 3 жыл бұрын
Hi there is kester 6502 jcr good for reflow?
@NikTelio
@NikTelio 3 жыл бұрын
yes you can use it for reflow
@stopthephilosophicalzombie9017
@stopthephilosophicalzombie9017 4 жыл бұрын
What flux would be good for desoldering/resoldering keyboard switches and the occasional oled screen or microcontroller? (i.e. not too much smd work)
@NikTelio
@NikTelio 4 жыл бұрын
i would say the Amtech 559 is a very good flux, buy it from a trusted seller because there are many fakes out there.
@rezakianpour9668
@rezakianpour9668 3 жыл бұрын
i made myself liquid rosin flux because i couldn't find it in the market here. is it good work for reballing ?
@NikTelio
@NikTelio 3 жыл бұрын
Hi, i get the rosin liquid flux from this seller but unfortunately he no longer ships outside of the UK. This is a very good liquid flux for lifting the chip and cleaning the old solder from the pads, i used it for reflows and reballings, in my opinion it is a very good flux. here is the link: www.ebay.co.uk/itm/232364626422?hash=item361a02d1f6:g:iisAAOSwLzdWR-uL
@rezakianpour9668
@rezakianpour9668 3 жыл бұрын
@@NikTelio you can use alcohol and solid rosin to make liquid rosin
@NikTelio
@NikTelio 3 жыл бұрын
@@rezakianpour9668 if i remember right you can use IPA and solid rosin, better search online to be sure.
@rezakianpour9668
@rezakianpour9668 3 жыл бұрын
@@NikTelio yes i did that i also tried Rosin with ethanol and it worked like charm
@SolderAndPaintBoy
@SolderAndPaintBoy 6 жыл бұрын
AMTECH NC-559-V2-TF what do you think?
@NikTelio
@NikTelio 6 жыл бұрын
Hello, i think the amtech nc559 is a good flux, but you must be carefull because there are many fake amtech fluxes.
@SolderAndPaintBoy
@SolderAndPaintBoy 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@rex2ducky837
@rex2ducky837 6 жыл бұрын
there do you buy the from?
@NikTelio
@NikTelio 6 жыл бұрын
Hello, you can buy these fluxes on ebay
@kennytownsend6651
@kennytownsend6651 6 жыл бұрын
Nik I was wondering if you could do an update on your bga machine.Do you have suggestions for the main box?Maybe a more detailed parts list and measurements.Nice job by the way.
@NikTelio
@NikTelio 6 жыл бұрын
Hello and thank you, what exactly would you like to know about the rework station ?
@kennytownsend6651
@kennytownsend6651 6 жыл бұрын
Nik Telio The parts for the frame and clamps.The box for the upper heater and how to mount it.It took me 2 day's to figure out that was a drake receiver
@NikTelio
@NikTelio 6 жыл бұрын
lol i'm still laughing... yes it was a satellite receiver, this is for the upper heater: www.dropbox.com/sh/lb89td8a6j8v0z3/AAAMUZpuDWfCdcy089p7nTaua?dl=0 "the parts for the frame and clamps" i think i don't understand what exactly you mean
@uN1Qu3DZ
@uN1Qu3DZ 6 жыл бұрын
I think he wanted to ask how you built the frame that supports the board. The clamps look like general purpose clamps you would buy at the hardware store...
@NikTelio
@NikTelio 6 жыл бұрын
hmmm...i think i have to create more pictures, i'm not Leonardo da Vinci, my pictures suck :P
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