Fly Tying Skill Builder #5 | Starting Thread, Shell Back Technique, How to Spin Deer Hair

[@mikehulsey4813]

Been tying for close to five or six years now and tie daily due to retirement from combat injuries to keep the skills I’ve learned in the past from you guys sharp. Fly Fish Food was where I watched my first video five years ago and I still keep up with you guys regularly as a subscriber because I’ll still pick stuff up from you guys fairly often that helps to continue growing my skills and technique library and knowledge. I’m grateful for the lessons and continue to show support by shopping with you guys just about monthly for my fly tying and fishing materials orders and would suggest that others take a look at what you guys have available. Great shop, great group of guys, extremely knowledgeable, and these guys are at the front of the fly tying and fishing industry still leading the way and teaching others to continue growing the sport. Thanks for what you guys do, and looking forward to seeing a nothing but dubbing lesson as suggested last lesson in the future

[@FlyFishFood]

Thanks for the kind words! Dubbing coming right up!

[@scottlorenz4745]

Mike thank you for your service. I am also a combat vet and I wanted to make sure you look up Project Healing Waters. They are a great nonprofit with lots of fly fishing and tying resources for the veteran community. You can participate for free or volunteer to help others. Find your local chapter you won’t be disappointed. Scott

[@jimmyjamesl6605]

As a relative novice, I'm finding this series, and all your videos, invaluable, not to mention a hoot and a holler to watch. Some of the best out there. Keep 'em coming and tight lines Everyone!

[@user-vw8re5iz3m]

Thanks for making these videos. They are very helpful. While I am improving from your tips I also appreciate your permission to throw tools at the wall!!!

[@dowmer3093]

Love the skill builders guys. Keep them up. Even for more advanced tyers, it’s always good to see how other people accomplish tasks and there is ALWAYS news things to learn or pick up. Thanks again. 👍

[@mdaley3102]

I enjoy the skill builders. Your explanations and techniques are very helpful. Thanks

[@edwardmlotkiewicz2343]

Thanks, Cheech, for the Skill Builder videos. I particularly enjoyed, and learned some good methods for spinning deer hair. Your explanation was on point.

[@FlyFishFood]

Thanks!!!

[@terrybois5945]

Been in the game awhile. Lol. I learned about deerhair. Nice

[@bobbell5265]

Without doubt the best deer hair whisperer I have seen Cheech. Regards Robbie UK 👌

[@jdigioia1130]

Thanks for continuing this Skill Builder series - great stuff!! 💥🎣

[@paulcarter5731]

Brill video guys! Never stop learning i reckon.

[@FlyTyer1948]

Thank you for this series. It’s always good to review old skills & to learn new techniques or alternate ways of doing things. Two questions: 1. What is the value of wrapping forward (toward the hook eye) multiple times when starting thread? I learned to immediately wrap backwards over the first thread. 2. What is the best size GSP for spinning hair in large amounts for largemouth bass flies? Most of my experience with spinning hair has been limited to smaller amounts like on Muddlers using mono or flat waxed nylon thread.

[@FlyFishFood]

1- easier to catch your thread and start out with a really tight connection. 2- 200D GSP all day

[@hooknlipsAVL]

Skills that pay the bills.

[@ericstewart4732]

Once again, thank you. I look forward to these each week.

[@beyforghani7962]

I've been tying for a few years and I still suck! I LOVE these skill builders! Thanks for sharing and don't stop!

[@Utahlonghorn]

Another great tips video.

[@harmonicalessonvideo6849]

I like your skill builders. Please continue. Proper tying skills make following a pattern very easy!

[@HalfInsaneOutdoorGuy]

Thank you for doing this deer hear spinny bit for me twice now =) Your demo in the shop was equally as good! I tried it today, and only tossed 2 tools! =D

[@FlyFishFood]

Thanks for giving me the idea. I went upstairs and filmed it after you left.

[@edpeter9411]

Superb! Keep 'em coming!

[@josephtommasi3477]

Helpful, thanks.

[@tomfitzgibbon6691]

These skill builders are great. Really helpful for new tyers like me. Thanks for doing these and please keep them coming. Also, I really appreciate your comments about the tools and materials. Please continue to include details about the tools and materials you are using.

[@FlyFishFood]

Thanks Big Tom! We’ll keep it up.

[@jeroldharter]

Well done! would like one to include tips and tricks with UV Epoxy.

[@FlyFishFood]

Oooh. Ok. We’re on it.

[@ph2738]

I’ve tried using GS tread for spinning deer hair. I like the slickness but I don’t like how it can cut the hair. Now I use kevlar thread. I use purple deer hair on a heavy wire, wide shank hook, shape with a razor blade, for a mulberry imitation for dry fly carp.

[@FlyFishFood]

Kevlar is way too thick. If you use 200 denier GSP you won’t cut through.

[@ph2738]

⁠The thickest GSP at a local shop was 150, but I got some. It seemed to work well. A little harder to keep from fraying on the bobbin, a little harder to cut, but the spin was nice. Nobody makes a mulberry fly, so I have to keep tying.

[@brettrouse3207]

Keep this series going. Awesome content.

[@carsonkeller8756]

Long time listener, first time caller…had a few questions for future skill builder topics: - what is your take on properly articulating streamers? (Wire, braid, beads,etc.) - hacks, shortcuts, closely held generational family secrets on batch tying concepts - do I need to buy a coffee grinder from a crackhead on Facebook market place to create custom dubbing blends?

[@FlyFishFood]

We’ll add to the list!

[@alanbigcheesehautly5009]

Great techniques, keep 'em coming...

[@joelstrassburg4614]

Really enjoying these skill builder videos! Keep them coming Cheech!

[@user-vw8re5iz3m]

I am interested in your thoughts on the Marc Petijean Magic tool and stacker tool. I struggle with loading feathers/hair in the thread loop. These tools seem to make that easier....but very pricy. Thanks.

[@joeborgione5477]

Love these skill builders! Keep them coming!

[@seanfalconer7182]

Spin some of that beard hair, Cheech!!

[@FlyFishFood]

This beard takes no prisoners.

[@bluejacket645]

Cheech, what part of the deer's body is the primo deer hair taken from? Thanks for doing this series!

[@FlyFishFood]

It’s not necessarily once specific part of the body. It’s just good quality hair. Could be from different parts of the deer

[@citron_fero4615]

I really enjoy this content and I have one question, which is a mystery for me for a quite long time now. Making a CDC legs with the right length on a nymph. So what I do is that I create a loop, then I put a half of cdc feather with a clamp into that loop and spin it. Finally I create the legs behind the tungsten bead, but they are too long and I have to manage the length afterwards with my hands. Any tips on how to not create long legs from cdc feather mainly on hooks size #18,#20

[@FlyFishFood]

If they are too long and you just want legs, maybe be tie in one clump on each side.

[@dominiqueleblanc2193]

Nice. For my muddler head spinning is not for me. I just put the hook in the centre of the Deer hair, adjust and wrap my thread around. Also really like curved cisors.

[@FlyFishFood]

Curved scissors are always a tough one. They are either too curved or not enough.

[@outdoorsmanship11]

Us Minecraft players at 8:35, “ Did someone say OFFHAND” 😂😆🤫

[@EmptyTheaterMask]

New tyers. Learn how to spot good deer hair when buying or hunt your own in winter when the coat is at it's thickest. I bought cheap stuff to start with, don't do that. it makes a huge difference.

[@FlyTyer1948]

Thank you for this series. It’s always good to review old skills & to learn new techniques or alternate ways of doing things. Two questions: 1. What is the value of wrapping forward (toward the hook eye) multiple times when starting thread? I learned to immediately wrap backwards over the first thread. 2. What is the best size GSP for spinning hair in large amounts for largemouth bass flies? Most of my experience with spinning hair has been limited to smaller amounts like on Muddlers using mono or flat waxed nylon thread.