Flying the Kodiak! (Caravan and Kodiak comparison)

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@Will-ui7dv 11 ай бұрын

Noob question about your stall. I noticed a lot of aileron inputs which I figured was you trying to keep the wings level. I’m trained in gliders, and was taught to not try pick a wing up with the ailerons at the stall because you increase AoA in the stalled wing, decrease in the unstalled wing, and set up the perfect conditions for a spin. I’m sure I’m missing some nuance, so keen to hear your thoughts!

@aeroplanetoby 11 ай бұрын

Not a noob question at all! You're absolutely correct, the aileron input will increase the AoA of a stalled wing (ie keeping that section of the wing stalled). However, in saying that, the Kodiak POH says "The application of ailerons is recommended to counteract any wing-drop that may occur during the stall". I am not sure why! I can only assume that the rest of the wing has so much lift (if the AoA is reduced during recovery) that it can handle the lack of lift on the outboard section.

@Will-ui7dv 11 ай бұрын

Thanks for responding! Yeah, definitely trust the POH. The test pilots and engineers know what they’re doing 😂 It could also be in a glider that the wings are so large that the yaw moment from stalling one wing is significantly larger and therefore increases the chance of a spin.

@adamgoldstein4069 9 ай бұрын

Good question. I'm a kodiak owner/pilot. The Kodiak's unique split wing design allows for nearly full aileron control through a deep stall. Due to the split wing, the outboard section of the wing has a lower AoA than the inboard section. Therefore the inboard section stalls first, and laminar flow is still maintained over the ailerons allowing for excellent aileron control. If you look at photos of a kodiak, the discontinuous leading edge is clearly visible and marks the point where the AoA changes. You're absolutely right that this type of aileron deflection during a stall is likely to induce a spin in other aircraft, and therefore neutral aileron input in a stall is recommended, and rudder should be used to counter any roll. As a pilot with experience in both Caravans and Kodiaks, I think the stall characteristics is probably the single biggest difference between the two types, along with cabin size.

@Will-ui7dv 9 ай бұрын

Thanks for the awesome answer and extra details Adam! It definitely goes to show how important it is to read and trust the specific instructions of each type you fly.

@aeroplanetoby 9 ай бұрын

Yep, I'd agree with the cabin size and stall (although the Caravan stall is still very docile!). Also the door user friendliness is a difference in my opinion!

@theotherab 11 ай бұрын

Nice one Tobes.

@aeroplanetoby 11 ай бұрын

Thanks mate!

@pgreenx 6 ай бұрын

How about build quality, fit and finish, interior noise, breakdown history, etc

@aeroplanetoby 6 ай бұрын

I'm flying another almost new one the week after next, so I'll try and update on that! The build quality is awesome, and the interior noise is about the same as the Caravan. This particular one is so new that it's probably not fair to compare it's breakdown history yet!