2017 Honda Civic Hatchback - LEARNED THAT LESSON!! Pocono track day

[@SWSW560]

Fist time on your channel. Here by chance. Your review was surprisingly very interesting and informative. Thank you Sir!

[@FlyinGato]

Thanks Francis! I will keep churning out more and more content, feel free to stick around! :)

[@myriamg.2409]

Thanks for the detailed feedback 👍😎 Same car as yours so I’m glad to hear and see how capable it is ✌️

[@FlyinGato]

+Myriam G thanks!! Are you planning on tracking yours?

[@myriamg.2409]

Not really....I'm in France and so far, I'm not aware of such an 'easy' way to do it with your own car. I'll do some research, though :-)

[@FlyinGato]

FRANCE!! Wow, that's awesome, if I were you I would make a trip to Germany and enjoy their roads!!

[@jjacob25101]

Awesome videos, as always. I know the suspension is set up well, but I know they have the front tower strut brace, bugger rear sway bars and chassis connector rods, lower springs and even coilover shocks if you want to tweak and fine tune your handling that much. Brakes are always a big thing for me. I would look into the Si brake kit to keep it factory, for less complications, if any. Would shorter throws on the shifter help with the problems you had? I know there are two kits available. One seems more complicated to install, taking apart the whole console and other parts. The other hooks up to the linkage under hood, and us simpler​ to install, just some things you need to remove for access. There are good videos for both to DIY. I just wish they had all the Si upgrades available for the Sport Hatchback. Maybe a special edition option.

[@FlyinGato]

I actually have a mod that I'm doing tomorrow that you would probably be interested in. The biggest problem by far are definitely the brakes, I too wish that a hatchback Si was on offer here in the US, I would have gotten that. Hell, if the Type R were more available I would be getting one of those right now!!

[@akirarex]

I can confirm that a 2017 Civic Si seat will fit in a 2017 Civic Hatchback. The Si seat is very close to an aftermarket racing seat, but you still get to maintain the safety of the seat position sensor and side bolster airbag. You may be able to use the shifter gate (lever sub assy. change) from a Si (Si rated at 10% shorter stroke by Honda compared to a Civic EX-T) or Type R (could not find a Honda rating, but I would imagine it is the shortest one). Those are supposed to have shorter throws. They are cheap, so if it doesn't work it's not a huge loss. Type R is the one I would try since it is a hatchback chassis. I don't think changing the brakes is as easy as people make it out to be. These cars don't use proportioning valves, it's all built into the ABS Modulator, which is very expensive. So slapping on Si brakes may be the best easy upgrade, I have to wonder how it affects the ABS system/Traction Control. Switching to Type R brakes would be very costly and I'm not positive if it's even practical since the Type R uses different axles, hubs, etc. The Si would certainly be more feasible as it is the closest to a normal Civic in terms of parts, but it remains to be seen how the computer would interact with Si brakes on a Hatchback chassis. And ultimately I wonder if Si owners are looking for an upgrade as well. It may be better to get a big brake kit from a good brake company. I have a feeling Si owners will be wanting a little bit of an upgrade as well.

[@FlyinGato]

I think you're right, even the Si brakes are just too small from what I experienced. The brakes just get too hot, way too fast and start losing their effectiveness after a few hot laps. I'll see what the options are as more modifying options come out.

[@Vrruumm]

You need to get ceramic brake pads. Cheapest and the most effective. You really don't need to upgrade the brakes system unless you want better stopping distance. If you just want consistency, getting better rotors, or at the very minimum better brake pads are the way to go. I know on my '17 SI, I plan on getting ceramic pads for the front at the very minimum when I start tracking it, or even auto crossing it.

[@akirarex]

Honda uses ceramic brake pads. Knowing the temperature range that the brakes are in will tell you which aftermarket pads to buy. www.tirerack.com/images/pdf/product/Hawk-Compound-Charts.pdf

[@Yondaily]

I have the ext and kept up with v6 accord all the time it's kinda weird!

[@FlyinGato]

It's a great car

[@reactflex1981]

upgrade the rotors and pads, maybe the calipers, hondata upgrade and ready to go

[@FlyinGato]

yea, the car is pretty impressive. Do you own one?

[@reactflex1981]

lol yeah I have the exact same one as you except black interior and cvt, almost 14k miles on it have had since Feb.

[@FlyinGato]

awesome! that's a lot of miles!! you thinking of taking it to a track day?

[@reactflex1981]

would love to, have to wait and see after I mod it

[@prestigious0]

will you be at the track day on the 25th at New Jersey Motorsports Park? I also need to get brake fluid in my car. boiled it at Pocono

[@FlyinGato]

Yessir I will, just not sure which car to take, maybe the S2000?

[@prestigious0]

Awesome! I plan on attending too. I'm excited to track on the thunderbolt circuit. Turn 10 looks great. Trying to get more folks to join with me too. Friend with another focus ST and a friend with an 8th gen Si we just finished putting the ECU tune on with the Acura TL Type-S brake swap.

[@RAY_FILET]

what can you do about the shifter? I'm beginning to have the same feeling about it.

[@FlyinGato]

I think I'll start by putting in an aluminum shift knob, it's weighted and countersunk, and see how that feels.

[@noonesfool]

Are you using the tires that came with the hatch or did you change them for another brand

[@FlyinGato]

+Jessica Domingue I was using the stock tires, car did pretty well. A tune, better brakes and tires is all the car really needed

[@noonesfool]

FlyinGato Cool... I'm thinking when it's time to change my brakes I'll get an inch or two thicker

[@FlyinGato]

+Jessica Domingue look into Hawk HPS pads first, world of difference

[@Frank-fe7ly]

Just buy the Type R

[@ItzzTesta]

Why? It is a $60k shit hole

[@FlyinGato]

if dealers weren't marking them up, possibly...

[@Frank-fe7ly]

Well, the TYPE R is a Gem, Collectible and its a track ready car and I got mine for 45K @ Burns Honda,,,,,, SHIT HOLE