#58 Very Clean Cessna 421C with Upgraded Avionics - Paint - Interior

[@gendaminoru3195]

Owing it's solid feel aided by an STOL kit? I know I saw VG's, but it also looked like some T/E flap extension links, but it also looked like split flaps, so idunno the kit well enough.

[@FlyingwithRich]

Correct and good catch. VGs and Sierra Industries Flap mod.

[@gendaminoru3195]

@@FlyingwithRich Got some additional info from Sierra this morning. Happy to share with you offline.

[@stevekaminski1644]

I’ll give them

[@CusterFlux]

Pretty Bird … it's got that chic late 70s look, perfect for flying Charlie's Angels onto their next mission 😉

[@FlyingGrimaud]

As someone who is graduating university in three months with a Pro-Pilot degree and a CFI certificate, I really appreciate these videos. After flying for four years, my knowledge had been limited to mostly Cherokees, Cessna 152/172's and piper Seminoles. So these videos really expand the horizon on what I would love to fly in GA after graduation.

[@FlyingwithRich]

Thanks for the message. Great time to be a pro pilot - lots of opportunities!

[@916medic]

Which school did you go too. I wants to change careers.

[@FlyingGrimaud]

@@916medic I went to Oklahoma state university. Then taught at a local flight school for two years before going to fly jets. If you’re serious about swapping careers, I’d recommend going to a local flight school and taking a flight to see if it’s a good fit. University is the slowest option. ATP school is the fastest by far but also the most expensive. Then local school is a good middle ground most of the time.

[@ca_pilot]

Cessna Piston twins all really have a special ramp appeal, some of the most beautiful airplanes made.

[@FlyingwithRich]

Agree- 421C with a nice paint job and gear struts pumped up, sitting tall is my favorite.

[@EZ8E]

I am now obsessed with the 421C. Thanks for the video.

[@FlyingwithRich]

I am too!

[@cynthiaklenk6313]

I adore the 421. Years ago I did my multi training in it. Its Cessna's work of art. And this one is truly beautiful with the Garmin glass. Lovely - just lovely.

[@randyporter3491]

I got some time in a "421 Golden Eagle" many years ago. Watching this brought back some fond memories. Really nice airplanes.

[@FlyingwithRich]

Thanks & yes such a great airplane. Have a video coming out this weekend on the finest 421 I have ever seen/flown!

[@randyporter3491]

@@FlyingwithRich Really looking forward to that one !

[@FlyingwithRich]

Saturday morning.

[@randyporter3491]

@@FlyingwithRich Gotcha, I’m there ! Thanks Rich !

[@FlyingwithRich]

Let me know what you think!

[@thecorporatepilotdad]

This was great to see, and it brought back a lot of memories especially from the sound of those engines. The first real twin-engine flying job I had was in a 1981 421C that I flew single pilot under part 135 back in the early 2000s. I flew 500 hours between the 421C and a 404. Both great airplanes and had a blast flying them. Thanks for sharing!

[@FlyingwithRich]

Thanks for the comment - I love the piston twins and such great airplanes. Thankful to have been able to experience them!

[@ryanp6999]

@@FlyingwithRich Two KZbin legends chatting it up.. nice

[@captgrant]

This class of aircraft are excellent in many categories. It has the perfect mix of avionics. If something were ever to blow out electrically you could still fly with the steam gauges. The geared engines and trailing link gear are great features to have. This aircraft has all you need. Another wonderful video.

[@FlyingwithRich]

Thank you!

[@raynus1160]

Beautiful bird. Flew one briefly back in the early 90's.

[@FlyingwithRich]

Yea. Great airplanes!

[@robertfrank7123]

Thank you taking the time to make the video flying these varied aircraft. Your ability to bring us into the cockpit as your 'co-pilot' is very much appreciated.

[@FlyingwithRich]

Thanks. I enjoy doing it and love the the feedback!

[@hawkdsl]

Someone loved that one.. It looks brand new.

[@banshee1322]

Grew up flying in a 1978 421c. Very impressive how easy you made it look starting the engines. My mom would flip every time there was a hot start😂

[@jettechdonatkins]

I worked on many of these as an A&P mech in Wichita,Kansas at the Cessna dealer just across the runway from where this was built.Setting up the engines was fun to do.I liked the 425 and 441 much better,but for a piston twin these were great.Thanks for this video.

[@FlyingwithRich]

Thank you - great comments. Amazing time to be in aviation when new 421C’s were rolling off the production line!

[@Agwings1960]

My old boss in the 80's a WW2 vet, used to say that the engines on a 421 were like a pair of plowing mules, you'll never get them to do the same thing at the same time, I always found that analogy humorous.

[@FlyingwithRich]

Good comparison but that’s part of beauty of flying older piston twins - makes you feel like you have some skill - FADEC makes you sloppy!

[@Agwings1960]

@@FlyingwithRich yeah my old boss a crop dusting service owner who flew corporate machines back in the 70’s was full of colorful analogy’s about aviation, some time I’m gonna write a book and include those sayings lol

[@ictpilot]

Ah Montgomery field. Was back there looking around about a year ago. Almost wanted to cry how much it had changed from the early 80's when I started flying from there. Anybody remember the 94th Aero Squadron restaurant? How about Western Sun Aviation?

[@dhvoith]

How about American Flyers? I instructed there in the late 80's.

[@ANPennsylvania]

My dad owned and operated a 74 421B, still owns it but moved onto a Citation 4.. Loved that airplane, a great tri-state commuter for an business owner / operator.

[@FlyingwithRich]

Very cool. Love the twin Cessna’s!

[@vincenzomaniaci9871]

Nice airplane

[@Feh60169]

Love the ratcheting sound of the mixture controls.

[@bartoszskowronski]

5:50 150 degree EGT difference and 22 degree CHT difference, perfectly shows left engine runs much leaner, or right is flooded with fuel. mixture levers needs adjustment. that's my initial diagnosis.

[@paultaylor9939]

Many thanks for sharing very nice 421 great interior and paint avionics too cheers

[@virginsim8024]

Totally agree. I flew the C404 and to this day, it's still the nicest plane I've flown!

[@FlyingwithRich]

Thanks for the comment!

[@byronpink9061]

Was watching a 67-69 421c being brought back to life after 17 years sitting out on another video. Seeing this one actually flying and hearing those quality piston twin engines harmonize was the best sound I have heard in a long time. This plane looks well cared for. Elegant interior and modern avionics and technology on this one. Thanks for sharing!

[@FlyingwithRich]

Thanks for the message and watching! It’s a very clean, well maintained airplane.

[@byronpink9061]

@@FlyingwithRich that is awesome!

[@jumpinjack1]

Nice shot of the old McDonnell Douglas plant I used to work at in the 80's, Thanks! I soloed out of that airport and with the tic tac toe runways and different frequency's it was tough, only got a call from the tower to my instructor once.

[@whynot5045]

Love the sound of twins.

[@davidmoorea1961]

What a BEAUTIFUL Lady!!! Thx for the flight and information Rich🇺🇸

[@FlyingwithRich]

Thank you!

[@MrNice-gw5dt]

great videos Capt. Rick great show!

[@FlyingwithRich]

Thank you.

[@spiro5327]

Very nice interior, start up procedure makes for a very entertaining video overall. That solid feeling you talk about is probably due to this plane being looked after extremely well since day one i reckon. Thanks Rich

[@SI-lg2vp]

A true Cessna Queen of the Sky. I enjoyed years of flying the C421 as the most enjoyable cabin piston twin. Loved the geared engines and big props. Great IFR platform for all kinds of weather. If only I could afford it, it would be my top pick.

[@FlyingwithRich]

Agree!

[@Vulcancruiser]

Way back when I rode with my buddy from EUG-RDD in a 421. Really impressive and we flew right over the top of Mt. Shasta could have hit the top with a baseball. If you do that get ready to hit the ceiling as the rotor nails you. A fantastic sight you will remember forever guaranteed.

[@Fomites]

Thanks. Good audio too.

[@JoeSmith-nu8oo]

Cessna had so many twin models I lost count! As an avid reader of everything Flying and young student pilot, I was amazed when the Conquest came along, I looked at that plane like it was a Playboy centerfold🤣 421C is very clean👍

[@evanbenjamin4578]

Unlike these newer Twins ...One of the many beauties of this Aircraft is the low profile dash giving one or both pilots greater field of vision .

[@haidercoversynthpianomusic747]

good video good aircraft

[@scottmajor2620]

Good upgrades; what a turn key mini airliner.

[@Rogue_wave]

13:45 waves are firing! 😆

[@HERRESHOFFGSD]

410cs are amazing and this video was great. Thank you for sharing.

[@truthmarshal6627]

I wish I had learned to fly. If I hadn’t chosen law enforcement for a career, it would have been aviation. Always been fascinated with flying. Now at 59, I can just enjoy watching and learning about flying basics on different aircraft.

[@FlyingwithRich]

Thank you for your service as law-enforcement officer.

[@truthmarshal6627]

@@FlyingwithRich thank you sir. Just found your channel. I guess I’m a bit addicted to flying videos, whether jet, twin engine, turboprop, doesn’t matter. I enjoy learning. I really appreciated the start up process. Cockpit views of take off and landing are some of my favorite. And maneuvering in storms. Anyway, thanks for the video and nice comment. I subscribed, so keep up the good work brother.

[@RegularGuy76]

You can fly anything Richard..... pretty impressive!!

[@willardpearce8218]

Great video! I used to fly the 'C' as well as the 'B' models. One of the 421 'C' models I flew was equipped with the STOL Kit. Interesting to land!😁.

[@FlyingwithRich]

Got to fly one with STOL as well. Pretty cool.

[@spskitchen5452]

Merry Christmas and happy new year Rich. As usual you nailed this video.

[@maxmasterson3804]

Gorgeous 421! Love your videos!

[@FlyingwithRich]

Thank you!

[@mikemc330]

Awesome sound!

[@XJSV12Fancier]

One of these used to fly out of EGLC/LCY when I lived down the road; I have always wanted one; the geared engines sound lovely, no idea what my mission would be...

[@johnsenetto7935]

Nice and quiet at 1900 rpm, sweet airplane love it.

[@FlyingwithRich]

Me too - sweet airplane!

[@kathleenlinnell4494]

Wow I didn’t know the Cessnas are so pretty Thanks for sharing Rich Looks like I can learn a lot from you and your channel Take care happy safe flights

[@prestonmiller9552]

Love Casa Machado Restaurant at Montgomery Field. I have always loved the 421C

[@FlyingwithRich]

Good combination!

[@squaaaaak3178]

Can I ask some stupid questions? I know there's Google but I always find it more informative to get answers from people with knowledge. I have been watching a lot of videos about commercial airliners and things but for some reason I haven't really dealt into small planes. I'm not sure why, since my dad had several different pipers when I was a little girl and used to fly us all over Michigan and Canada. I just want to make sure people here have the patience to answer questions from a rather clueless woman LOL

[@FlyingwithRich]

Ask away!

[@snowman100]

Really loved and appreciated the extended startup and run up. Great video! Thanks for another one

[@skallin84]

Great video and a beautiful machine!

[@Hossman757]

gorgeous airplane. Nice Video!!!

[@KingKo0]

Great video. Very informative. I’m about to get a job flying this privately for somebody so it really showed me how nice these really are.

[@robaust3049]

Great video Rich. The 421C is a true classic of an aircraft, add in the trailing link and a gem. Just love the sound of the geared motors, when looked after the “GITSO” is a great motor. Thanks for the video.

[@FlyingwithRich]

Thank you!

[@GSMS524]

Nice video, Thanks. I have owned and operated my 421B for 27 years. Love it. Just did an engine change on the RH side (1,765 hrs SMOH and only changed due to a case crack, but was about $90,000 all in FWF for a Western Skyways New Limits overhaul including case replacement. I burn 42 gph in cruise (125 pph per side at 68% power of 31 inches MP, 1,800 RPM). The "Transfer" light illuminates when the fuel transfer is complete. It should be extinguished if there is fuel being transferred. There is a pressure switch in the transfer line and when the transfer is complete, pressure in the line falls, and the switch closes to illuminate the light on the annunciator panel. The vane type pump should not be operated without fuel to lubricate it. So you should turn off the pump as soon as the "Transfer" light comes on.

[@FlyingwithRich]

Thanks for the note - Western Skyways are great engines. Always forget about transfer light on or off when transfer is done - thanks for that!

[@danroll81]

Great video Rich! Enjoyed the extended explanation. Nice all around plane.

[@FlyingwithRich]

Thank you!

[@Jonleas]

Beautiful plane and great video!!!

[@FlyingwithRich]

Thank you!

[@brianb5594]

Rich, sweet 421! Thanks for the detailed tour. Happy belated New Year BTW!

[@Karla-Flr]

Super Video !

[@FlyingwithRich]

Thanks.

[@ironhorsehero1988]

Great piece Rich, as ever very informative, lovely looking aircraft outside and in especially with the upgraded avionics

[@FlyingwithRich]

Thanks!

[@michaelmuange8332]

Good stuff as always Rich💯💯!

[@FlyingwithRich]

Thank you!

[@Dbiggs10]

Thank you for the more detailed video

[@outabeat]

It's always easy to spot an older airplane when the cabin seats have ash-trays. The good ole days of smoking on board.

[@TheFlightLevel]

Beautiful bird and great video editing with the close up shots! Blue skies!

[@kasm10]

Great job. Thanks for covering a range of aircraft

[@FlyingwithRich]

Thanks for watching!

[@cscarbr2]

Just went into contract on a 1980 421C but if the deal falls through for some reason, would seriously consider this aircraft! Thanks for sharing!

[@FlyingwithRich]

Nice. Stay in touch.

[@rogerbee697]

LOL...sure...OK😉

[@michaelesq.atpcfii.9862]

Does it have a auto pilot coupler? It all comes down to single pilot low IFR.

[@tomarmstrong1281]

Used to fly those old beauties. Enjoyed every minute. Although once had an engine fail after take off. Which was interesting. Subsequently never raised u.c until no useful rnwy left on any twin or single with retractable u,c.

[@lanceyarwood3132]

You and I are in complete agreement on retracting the landing gear only when there's no longer any usable runway! You can put the landing gear up early, but if one engine or both quit your options become limited.

[@NotTelling51]

What a nice plane.

[@FlyingwithRich]

Yeah - it really is.

[@GaryMCurran]

Yeah, was looking at the fuel flow of over 90 gph on take off, and then 55 gph in cruise, and even if you got it down to 40 gph at long range cruise at altitude, that's still almost $250/hr just in fuel costs. The 421C Golden Eagle is a very nice airplane. Teledyne Continental now has a CD-300 Turbo-Diesel engine. I have to wonder if they could produce an 8 cylinder CD-400 Turbo Diesel that puts out 400hp Max and 350-375 Max Continous, and burns only 10-11 gph per side. That would be a totally awesome conversion for this airplane. There have been at least two turbine conversions for the aircraft, one using Honeywell LT-101 (now Rolls Royce, IIRC) turboprops and then another conversion, the Riley Turbine, which used a PT-6-135. Either one of those would burn well into the 60 gph at cruise though, which still is expensive. But, you didn't have to worry about babying the engines as you did with the GTSIO-520s. I really would like to see Cessna reintroduce some piston twins, all with diesel engines. The 340A and the 421C would be nice, and with economical turbo diesel engines it would be nicer, although TBR might be a little expensive.

[@easttexan2933]

"I really would like to see Cessna reintroduce some piston twins, all with diesel engines." I guess I have to ask, why? Would you buy one?

[@GaryMCurran]

@@easttexan2933 I'm not in a position to buy anything right now, my medical isn't current and I'm not current, either. Having said that, I think that something like a diesel powered 340A or 421C would slot in below turbo prop pricing, even the new Denali, and would give general aviation a boost up in small business owners looking for an airplane that's less money than a jet. If they could build a new 340A with 325hp diesel engines, and could produce it for less than $1.75M, I think there wound be small business owner who would buy them. Do a 421C for less than $2 with a 400hp set of engines and you might have a second winner. In both cases, the fuel burn is going to go less than or equal to a small turbo prop.

[@easttexan2933]

@@GaryMCurran IDK man, that's a lot of money to go 200knots.

[@GaryMCurran]

@@easttexan2933 what does a Meridian cost? How about a new TBM? Both are single engine turboprops. Either is going to give you a bit more cabin room. The turboprop, especially the TBM, is going to be faster, but is it worth $2M to be that much faster add how much more fuel? It's a balancing act, of course.

[@easttexan2933]

@@GaryMCurran the thing of it is....we are talking about people that can afford this stuff lol

[@muriuwangai3617]

Nice airplane love it. Good videos, but there was maybe needed a dedicated cam for the props and exterior forward plus we also missed alot of engine roar that adds flavour. Either way, cheers. HKNW.

[@strokeliving5950]

what a beautiful aieplane!

[@DealorG]

Great video! You really gotta love cessna teins, its a shame they dont build them anymore.

[@fishhisy]

Flew as a contract pilot for a dry lease 421 operation left because it just seemed a little shifty for me did get 600 a day which wasn't too shabby.

[@FlyingwithRich]

Cool airplane for sure!

[@aeroedge6847]

Good video, thank you for sharing!

[@FlyingwithRich]

Thank you!

[@igormaiamoreira8427]

Great content!!!

[@FlyingwithRich]

Thank you!

[@003rog]

Thanks Rich. I really enjoy your videos.

[@FlyingwithRich]

Thank you!

[@solcarzemog5232]

I knew how to do that - and actually performed ti several times - when I was 12 yrs old, in my father's 421.

[@12345fowler]

Nicely detailed presentation before flight but I would expect some words about weight and balance as it is a flight critical item. With 2 onboard I expect it to be nose heavy. What was the trim for takoff and how did the airplane feel ?

[@FlyingwithRich]

I believe that airplane had a 2200 lb useful load. Figure 3 hours of fuel + reserve nets you around 1200 lb payload. The 421s have a wide W&B envelope. Thanks for watching.

[@CrosswindSurfer]

Rich you know youre gettin old when you call an HSI a "Nice HSI" hahah

[@FlyingwithRich]

Very true!

[@AllMightyLee]

Very nicely preserved exemple. Wondering how many of the dash instruments have been updated. Must have cost a fortune. 🙂

[@coolmoodee]

Wow clean aircraft

[@bernardanderson3758]

Very well equipped

[@89vette1]

Nothing like the sound of a 421. Our company has a B model and a CJ4.

[@FlyingwithRich]

I agree - love the CJ4 421 combo!

[@enricodigenova8112]

Nice plane and panel in it mate I just finished doing the g1000 upgrade in my PA-31-350 chieftain

[@FlyingwithRich]

Must be one of the few with G1000!

[@enricodigenova8112]

@@FlyingwithRich I haven’t seen any other with g 1000 or mfd and PDF upgrades

[@ACHVACTAB1]

OOOPPPS CLEAR PROP

[@maxpuppy96]

Nice plane, expensive, all the upgrades are nice.

[@ehtashamamir7041]

it was good to see operations of another piston engine ..

[@larrylegg8245]

Good job.

[@bernardanderson3758]

The higher mantinence Cost or operating any 421 and I love the sound of this aircraft Rich

[@Cliff.theBRD]

I miss my dads 421…. Great plane!

[@Ripper13F1V]

Beautiful aircraft..

[@sven31415]

One question from a non pilot: If the throttles never match and are offset, isn't there a way to trim them and make them match again ?

[@FlyingwithRich]

Yes - you can control the engines individually and match them. It’s just nice to have the levers match up as well.

[@sven31415]

@@FlyingwithRich My question was exactly that. Isn't it there some offset that can be adjusted for the levers to match?

[@FlyingwithRich]

Yes, you can adjust the throttles to make them match up but not easy and they get out of alinement over time/use.

[@sven31415]

@@FlyingwithRich Thank you for your answer. I would love to fly such an awesome machine. Unfortunately it is financially out of reach for me. I think sports cars are just toys. Small planes are the real deal :-)

[@GX901]

Nice machine

[@FlyingwithRich]

Yes it is a very nice aircraft - thanks for watching.

[@Parr4theCourse]

Nice plane, do you start the 182 with the same procedure?

[@FlyingwithRich]

Basically the same except for mixture cut off until it fires on the Injected Lycomings.

[@psengineeringinc3233]

PMA450B to replace the PMA8000B would be another tremendous upgrade! Its a slide-in replacement.

[@JPN421]

How does one get a job like this. So cool

[@Pilotc180]

A 421 is a great fling old bird; but the operation, maintenance, and insurance is the most of any piston twin

[@FlyingwithRich]

@@Pilotc180 I don’t think you generalize that much about any particular airplane. 421s like any airplane - mx costs are relative, take good care of it and it will won’t cost any more than any other airplane in its class.

[@jammusique]

Hi Rich, watched about all your videos. Ex paraglider pilot here. I'd Love to hear you comment on the Piaggio Avanti Evo. Same size and engins (+/-) as a King Air 260, but flys 40% faster! Isn't that much more advanced design and technology? Why don't they sell like hotcakes? A mistery to me. Keep up the great videos !! Thanks

[@FlyingwithRich]

Thanks. Big cabin too in Piaggio- King Air product line very tough to unseat with the history, etc. So much support out there for KA’s. Performance is only one factor of a successful airplane. I don’t recall price as new and where it stood against jets as well. Thanks for the message!

[@classicraceruk1337]

The company owning the Piaggio keeps going broke I think. The EVO would be my choice if I had the money, Bellissima

[@johnpatrick1588]

Big turbo-charged piston engine with a transmission. Better treat them delicately or the overhaul bill will wake you up even before the short TBO times. . Sudden power changes and rapid power reductions in decent must be avoided. Do get pressurized comfort and it is pretty.

[@N98858]

Great Video on this High Time CE421C... No Mention of Engine Times and I would have like to see a "Check-List" Card used throughout this presentation albeit seemingly committed to memory ';-)

[@FlyingwithRich]

Forgot to mention engine times I guess - one was high time, one mid time as I recall. Airplane sold quickly - it was a very nice, well maintained 421C. As far as “checklists”, Videos are edited. Also, checklist use in my opinion is a broad topic, and while I am a proponent for checklist use, if I have to rely on a checklist to prepare an airplane for take-off or landing or to deal with common abnormalities, I wouldn’t consider myself qualified to fly it.