Lightweight Antigravity Lithium Batteries (FM Live)

[@tatankadog2]

Great concept, would jump on this in a heart beat. But I will also wait until the price is more reasonable. $700 for a car battery is totally crazy.

[@tmo2798]

That's what I was going to ask[price]. Thanks.

[@FlyinMiataVideo]

Yeah, the price is a bit steep at first glance but when you figure the lifespan of a lithium compared to a lead acid, it isn't that far off.

[@mikea5205]

I bought 2 of them, 1 for my car and 1 for my moms car. Once you feel the weight difference, you'll never want to touch another regular battery again. Plus....car starts faster, windows fly up and down and headlights are brighter.

[@jasper_of_puppets]

Been running Lithium batteries in my motorcycles for over 10 years. It's easily one of the best and easiest upgrades to do and is an absolute no-brainer when your OEM lead-acid needs to be replaced. Glad this tech is finally making its way into the mainstream for cars.

[@moushgas3146]

Finally my Lexus 450h plus battery problem solved. I bought it and installed myself. It’s a great battery. No more dash cam problems.

[@TJDST4]

I work with LiFePo4 batteries every day and am glad to see them becoming more common in the automotive world.

[@BOONDKS]

I run one of these batteries in my Mustang, you will need a tender if you only drive your car once every couple weeks or so. The one I use is an ANTIGRAVITY & it is very light. It weighs just under 5lb.

[@FlyinMiataVideo]

The weight reduction using these batteries is CRAZY. However, I don't think they fit everyone's build.

[@Spkrfrk1]

What about the fires of hell in AZ? Is that a survivable heat for this type of battery? Summers routinely hit 110 plus for months on end.

[@alexander4566]

5:54 this makes it worth it on its own ill be getting one just for that

[@SuperRex7]

Had the atx20 on my 86 Corolla gts for 2 months, drive 1-2 times a week, battery charge light on and off on the dash since day one (doesn’t have this problem with normal batteries) now the alternator stop working, my wonder is these lithium batteries make the alternator work harder shorten their life.

[@FlyinMiataVideo]

Sorry to hear about your issue. We've only tested them in Miatas, and haven't noticed any alternator issues with our experiences.

[@falconevLithium]

Thanks for explaining all the benefits of a lithium battery, Now, explain why anyone would buy an AGrav. 24Ah for $629 at 8.5 lbs when they could get the exact same at LithiumMoto ; 22Ah for $450 at 5.2 lbs WITH 2ndStart feature and key FOB. or a 40Ah version at 10.5 lbs for $750... and by the way; LithiumMoto Does have the correct size battery for the Fiat 124.

[@jbpasion071]

LithiumMoto site is a whole bunch of photos and text and dead links to their social media pages which seems not a legit business but please correct me if I am wrong. Also their FAQ page has black background with black text so hard to read. But yes their products prices are fairly reasonable.

[@Gancherov]

I like most of your products, and appreciate that I can usually skip the research and trust FM to sell a top notch product in every category. This one I just don't understand.. standard batteries with a 3-5 year lifespan cost $150-300 - they often last 2-3 times that and work in just about every weather condition in the USA. How is a $700 replacement that you have to take indoors when it's chilly out make any sense? I live in California and still see 2-3 months of near freezing temperatures... maybe you could advertise it as an additional safety feature for drivers who can't handle cold/wet roads?

[@FlyinMiataVideo]

Just like every mod or upgrade, there will be caveats to consider, and we completely understand that this battery is obviously not for everyone. Batteries, like tires, are consumables with limitations on their performance due to environment. As with any aftermarket part, practical usage must be considered to get the most of out the product, and we think the efficiency, overall cost of ownership, modern technology, dramatic weight-loss, and safety of the re-start function make this a good choice for anyone looking for an update from the traditional lead acid battery.

[@ikeray1837]

I’ve never had a car battery made in the last 2 decades last 5 years, let alone 9-10 years as you suggest. Most, in fact, last at best 3 years, and I’m buying interstate, could only imagine how often Walmart or AutoZone batteries die. And I live in south Texas where we almost never see freezing temps. Both will end up in the ocean😂, but the lithium will last longer and has the benefit of deep cycling.

[@nakaface]

@@ikeray1837 All my batteries have lasted 5+ years in north Texas with temps from 20 to 110. I do throw them on a maintainer for maybe 1 weekend a year to desulfate them (battery minder unit). These have been either OEM (honda and toyota), oreillys, duracell, or interstate batteries.

[@kemosabegt350geuss6]

If you cant use a regular 12V charger on this battery how then does your cars 12V charging system work with it?

[@noesanchez7484]

Please someone explain what this battery will do to life of the altenator..

[@kevinperera2696]

you can use the Optimate Lithium 4s 6A charger for this battery.

[@ubacow7109]

I would honestly be kinda nice if it had like a usb c charging ability given how capable the port and charging speed is over it.

[@FlyinMiataVideo]

That would be pretty nice!

[@qrs3658]

this is a good idea for a battery. but the only hiccup i see is with the CCA. so basically this battery may not be favorable for ppl living in the cold climate region. also what about the charging system. i heard that they are not compatible to the alternator in cars. i read somewhere on the net that it is not to be charged with alternators putting out more than 13.5 V. so what kinda alternator will i need to put in my car?

[@FlyinMiataVideo]

These work fine with alternators. Most lead acid chargers go through an anti-sulfate process to clean off the plates in the battery. LiFePO4 batteries (like what we sell) literally can't sulfate, so it's not necessary. Plus, it can damage the battery. Your alternator doesn't have this process, it just puts voltage into the battery. The specific charging profile is better suited to the battery chemistry as well.

[@snivesz32]

Will they destroy your alternator? I have read that when the BMS disconnects the load on a full lifepo4 battery the alternator output skyrockets to 100V or more in a millisecond and blows the rectifying diodes

[@FlyinMiataVideo]

Hmm, we haven't heard of that before but since we only work on Miatas, you might ask Antigravity directly for a bigger picture on all available platforms.

[@snivesz32]

@@FlyinMiataVideo I’ll set it up on a test vehicle and see if I can reproduce it.

[@motorpsykler]

Kinda wish you would have led with the 'not good for cold weather' part. That eliminates a HUGE amount of potential customers.

[@RaptorRacingperformance]

I'm in Canada (Toronto) and have an antigravity battery in my wife's Fiesta ST "daily driver"...she works from home 5 days a week so the car rarely gets driven. Not even a hint of an issue...ever. I also have a an Antigravity in my Focus RS, stored all winter in garage with no insulation, no power for a charger and no negative terminal disconnected. Put the car away in October and started it 2 weeks, ago...powered the car on, let the battery "cycle up" for 3mins...car started 1st crank instantly. Ohh...also have an AntiGravity in my wife's MSM which is also stored all winter. Unless you live in Northern Canada I see NO issues to be worried about cold performance.

[@A42yearoldARAB]

thank you saved me time and money lol

[@stevewheatley243]

And a standard car alternator will work for this? No charge controller necessary?

[@FlyinMiataVideo]

For the Miata, as long as you have an alternator in good working condition, the battery will receive the charge that's required for a lithium battery. If your alternator is failing, the BMS will protect the battery if an overcurrent situation occurs.

[@jonathankaufold7503]

so I live in Florida so I don't have to worry about it

[@vdrivevideo]

I need a lithium specific battery charger but my standard alternator is ok?

[@FlyinMiataVideo]

Most lead acid chargers go through an anti-sulfate process to clean off the plates in the battery. LiFePO4 batteries (like what we sell) literally can't sulfate, so it's not necessary. Plus, it can damage the battery. Your alternator doesn't have this process, it just puts voltage into the battery. The specific charging profile is better suited to the battery chemistry as well.

[@kevinperera2696]

i hope you are using optimate lithium chargers on those AG batteries.

[@FlyinMiataVideo]

We use CTEK lithium battery chargers. flyinmiata.com/products/ctek-lithium-battery-charger?_pos=1&_psq=charger&_ss=e&_v=1.0

[@Gabachhoo]

I have a question resolving on the transmission of a 1.6l. I was going to ask is there any kits where am I able to rebuild the transmission or even stage it

[@FlyinMiataVideo]

You'd probably have better luck asking a race or transmission shop directly. Feel free to reach out to our customer support team via phone or email. They might be able to offer some suggestions.

[@jeffrbake]

In Texas we get two or three weeks of freezing weather. Would it work fine in my daily driver?

[@moushgas3146]

Thank you for video. Can I put this on my 2022 Lexus NX450h plus? I am tired to change my original battery. I drive 60k. mile and changed 3 times.

[@FlyinMiataVideo]

It's best to reach out to Antigravity directly for that answer.

[@mrvang8077]

So is there a way to keep the battery operating in cold weather? I mean is there a thermal heating coil to keep it operating in cold weather. Kind of like a heating coil that some automotive use to warm up the engine in cold climate? If not, will there be one available in the future? It's kind pricey for one giving that it's not suitable in cold climate. I would love to purchase one, but I am just worry that it will failed in cold climate. I live in california and the weather changes. I park my vehicle outside so if winter comes. I don't want to deal with a dead battery that won't start if it's too cold outside in the morning.

[@FlyinMiataVideo]

@mrvang8077 If you live in a climate that gets truly cold in the winter, these batteries are probably not for you. We're not aware of any heating coils for these and would not recommend that you use one. While these are pricey upfront, considering their lifespan, they will likely outlive 2 standard lead acid batteries (or more). Please see our product listing to see if your winter conditions are severe enough to cause issues with these batteries!

[@miznitic5574]

I'm still bitter over the hype you guys had over the POS Braille Battery I purchased from you.

[@TebTengri]

So even 125° in Mexicali won't kill it?

[@ubacow7109]

How do they compare to Brailles lithium batteries?

[@FlyinMiataVideo]

We've never used the Brailles lithium battery, so we can't provide a good comparison.

[@osmanrahman9472]

Under identical conditions, like same Ah rating, same RC rating, same environmental conditions, same brand quality, optimal temperature, 20°C - 30°C and all other factors being equal, then which would deliver higher instantaneous peak surge current? I meant more cranking power/amps. AGM or LFP for the equivalent type battery??

[@FlyinMiataVideo]

@osmanrahman9472 LiFePO4 can discharge more quickly, so that would mean more cranking amps with all else equal (and optimal).

[@osmanrahman9472]

@FlyinMiataVideo Then why do most of the people prefer the AGM one? Me really confused. Also many of them say that AGM has higher discharge capabilities. But what's the actual truth? Can you say please

[@FlyinMiataVideo]

@@osmanrahman9472 AGM batteries are much cheaper, which is what most people want when they replace a battery. Without knowing who out there is saying that "AGM batteries have higher discharge capabilities", we aren't really able to know why they are claiming this and what their evidence to support this is like.

[@osmanrahman9472]

@@FlyinMiataVideo okay so LFP is superior right??

[@FlyinMiataVideo]

@@osmanrahman9472 In the specific scenario you mentioned, the Lithium battery is subjectively superior. If you live in a place that regularly gets sub 20 degrees F, a lithium battery probably isn't your best option.

[@vigamortezadventures7972]

A capacitor mixed lithium battery could be better when in cold climates

[@DeathIncarnate306]

I wish I had 1200 to drop on a new battery. Unfortunately need one.

[@FlyinMiataVideo]

Well, they're not $1200, but we get the point you're trying to make. That said, once you take lifespan into account, the cost levels out long term compared to lead acid batteries.

[@DeathIncarnate306]

@FlyinMiataVideo I just compared one. 80ah group 94r 1349.99$ on their website. Currently on backorder.

[@DeathIncarnate306]

@FlyinMiataVideo I don't disagree about the lifespan though.

[@FlyinMiataVideo]

@@DeathIncarnate306 The Lithium batteries we sell cap out at about $650 as of now, for what it's worth.

[@johndoughenbro7719]

thx LOTS good info 👍👍👍👍👍 ( bcuz i the dummy that research AFTER purchase 😅😆😁😄 )

[@mrlee4579]

Na Miata model soon?

[@dadzilla007]

I've been running the Anti-Gravity for 8 months now and it's been faultless.

[@FlyinMiataVideo]

We've been impressed so far!

[@reactor4]

my next mod

[@richard-mai]

Will it last during a drive-in movie?

[@FlyinMiataVideo]

Unfortunately, due to the massive amount of variables from weather to the length of the movie, we have no way to test this. Sorry.

[@michaelsaywhat6980]

What the name of that color on that ND behind you??!

[@FlyinMiataVideo]

Which one? The red is Soul Red, the blue RF is Eternal Blue and the ND V8 in the bg is the Mazda Ceramic white. :)

[@michaelsaywhat6980]

@@FlyinMiataVideo thank you 😊 🙏. Are the Eternal Blue factory paint?

[@dielaughing73]

@@michaelsaywhat6980 yes it is. It's not very common but it's a beautiful colour. Looks kind of greyish in some lights and quite vivid in others (as you see here)

[@clutchboi4038]

I put an antigravity motorcycle battery with the appropriate CCA in my srt4 and it's dead after a year.

[@FlyinMiataVideo]

Sorry to hear that! Antigravity batteries have "smart" controllers that protect the battery from overcharging and damage. Since the car's charging system is MUCH more powerful than a motorcycle's, it probably overwhelmed the protection circuits. The antigravity batteries we sell are specifically made to work with these vehicles and are fully warranted.

[@robertwilliams2762]

I park outside in NY. I assume it’s not appropriate for that.

[@FlyinMiataVideo]

If it sees extremely cold temperatures or sits for any real length of time, then honestly you would probably be better off with a more traditional batter.

[@thndr_5468]

Absolutely gawked at the price. Nearly a grand for a single battery!

[@FlyinMiataVideo]

The sticker price is a bit of a shock but if you figure the cost of standard battery replacements for the lifespan of this fancy one, it's not too bad. AND I'd say that it's the least expensive weight loss one can find for their car.

[@thndr_5468]

@@FlyinMiataVideo maybe so but I live in a cold environment so it wouldn't work for me in the first place

[@pete5534]

I hope this battery is a viable option for some, it ain’t for me… Cost, cold weather usability, and not compatible with my Battery Tender - three strikes. I’ve had good luck with “Mazda” batteries for my Mazda3 and CX-3, so I think I’ll stick with a dealership battery for my MX-5. The battery in my ‘04 MSM is the original battery. Yes, 20 years old (date code says March of ‘04), and there’s nothing but Japanese symbols on the stickers - crazy, I know… If I manage more than five years out of a new battery I’ll be happy. Thanks for the honest review!

[@FlyinMiataVideo]

Thanks for watching!

[@swkleevideo]

Thanks for sharing. Question: is 40 Ah enough for a supercar, or something higher?

[@kstevenk]

My antigravity died in one year. Might get too hot under the hood.

[@FlyinMiataVideo]

Sorry to hear that. Have you reached out to Antigravity for a warranty claim? antigravitybatteries.com/warranty/ What vehicle do you have it in and what is the car's main purpose?

[@b2bb]

sounds like I need to install a good ole heat pump in my garage...

[@95TurboSol]

700 to 1000 for a car battery no thanks!

[@fcwt101]

If it won't work correctly below 20°, it's worthless in most of the country.

[@FlyinMiataVideo]

It's a little different if you park in a garage.

[@a.c.e.7568]

To talk about batteries you actually need to know something about batteries. My flooded lead lead acid batteries have lasted 14 and 16 years in our cars. Cycles? Unimportant, these are starter batteries, not trolling motor batteries! Restart? All cars beep if the lights are left on. I've needed 2 boosts in almost 50 years due to end of life batteries. And to spend $1200 for a Lithium battery that costs $170 for an AGM at Walmart.

[@mg8718]

In reality its a worthless car battery.

[@FlyinMiataVideo]

Without a battery, your car wouldn't start, so it's hardly worthless. Thank you for watching!

[@mg8718]

Its not a good choice of battery for any daily driver and especially not in cold winters. Its a waste of money. @@FlyinMiataVideo