As a flight instructor for 30 years, this information is exactly correct. I wish everyone would watch this video before they start training
@flywiththeguys3 жыл бұрын
Agreed. And some of our other videos on flight instructors, flight schools, and taking charge of your training. It's kind of crazy how many people jump into training completely blind.
@yaboiCJGaming5 ай бұрын
Yeah I wanna get a private pilots license as I plan on joining the airforce and I wanna see what it’s like to actually fly
@scottfranco19623 жыл бұрын
I am legally blind in one eye. Been flying for 40 years. When I was a student, one of my first questions was if I could fly with only one eye. They answered that question by pairing me up with an instructor who was also blind in one eye. End of issue.
@flywiththeguys3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing that!
@albradley55273 жыл бұрын
My instrument instructor was a one legged Cobra pilot who took a 50 cal bullet in the hip in Vietnam, got gangrene and lost his leg. So people asked him how he could use both rudder peddles with only one leg? He got a one legged instructor to teach him. And got a wood leg.
@russbell64183 жыл бұрын
You are in good company. Wiley Post was, as well. (First to solo around the world.)
@scottfranco19623 жыл бұрын
@@russbell6418 Yea, I think I recall that (eye patch guy). It actually makes surprisingly little difference. Your binocular sight is only good to about a dozen yards in any case. Past that everything looks flat. Mostly it is a factor in landings. I recall I was never good at baseball because I thought I could catch a fly ball, but it would land a yard behind me. Anyways, you learn to compensate.
@Habu712 жыл бұрын
lol. Love that. good for you.
@albradley55273 жыл бұрын
Here’s a sign that I wish I had seen before I learned to fly. I lived by these words while flying for 50 years with no accidents or violations. “Aviation, in itself, is not dangerous, but is terribly unforgiving of any carelessness, incapacity or neglect.”
@flywiththeguys3 жыл бұрын
I like that. Thanks for sharing.
@ITIRICI2 жыл бұрын
It's exactly what I say in another way The world is not complicated. People complicate the world.
@grantcarver70573 жыл бұрын
I am 17 y/o and just passed my checkride last Friday! It took me 3 months and 60 hours of training. I highly recommend getting into aviation. I love every minute of it!
@flywiththeguys3 жыл бұрын
I totally agree! And CONGRADULATIONS on passing your checkride!
@every_thing_wood12512 жыл бұрын
Do you need to have ever flying from when you were a kid? I'm 17 and really want to do this, but money and a fear I wont be able to do it along with school is kinda holding me back
@captainn14202 жыл бұрын
Hello how are you I hope you are well tell me how the learning and flight practices are going ✈️
@captainn14202 жыл бұрын
@@every_thing_wood1251 Hello, I see that you have two obstacles and that is money and other responsibilities, but despite your age, you can learn very quickly, as we have all done, you just have to continue studying aviation and there are several ways and methods to do it from home until have the possibility of being able to go to the internships without any problem being able to already have very good information and a base in the area
@every_thing_wood12512 жыл бұрын
@@captainn1420 like online ground schools? That is something that I can see me being able to pay for at the moment
@jamespieper96063 жыл бұрын
Every once in a while, step aside from the training pressures and just go fly for fun. Plan to sight see, eat a meal or attend a fly-in and ask the CFI if you can bring the spouse. Training is tough especially if you are trying to fit it in with work and "life" Remember to Have FUN!
@markkirkland9343 жыл бұрын
My PPL instructor told me just that while I was a student pilot; go take a short cross country close by (
@Maine_Prepper3 жыл бұрын
FYI - I’m a pilot for a major airline (737 Ca). I have 20/100 vision, a color vision waver and a minor heart issue. I also hold a 1st class FAA medical. If it’s your dream to fly then for all means go for it!
@flywiththeguys3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing that!
@christianfrancis34353 жыл бұрын
I took my 1st class med today and I struggled on the color vision test so they are sending me to a optometrist tomorrow to confirm. I don’t have a problem distinguishing red/green/blue lights but the ishihara I struggle with. Any recommendations on how to get around it to obtain my 1st class med?
@Maine_Prepper3 жыл бұрын
@@christianfrancis3435 initially I was given a restriction (no night flying) but that was removed after I demonstrated to the FAA that I could see light signals from the tower. That covered 2nd and 3rd class medical. For the 1st class, I had to do a flight test at dusk. Barely passed that one. 😳 That was 35 years ago so it may have changed. Good luck!
@christianfrancis34353 жыл бұрын
@@Maine_Prepper awesome, thanks for your help!
@branonlamphere96243 жыл бұрын
Minor heart issue🧐😳😳, this isn’t going to end well, job security for me I guess🤷🏻♂️
@ethan.amosberg8353 жыл бұрын
I am currently a student pilot. Something I wish I had know before starting training is to pick a reliable instructor with a reliable airplane
@flywiththeguys3 жыл бұрын
YES! This is a big one. We actually have a whole video on this over on the channel page. Wish it got more traction.
@suzukirider90303 жыл бұрын
If it's really bad - go ahead and switch. Schools, instructors, and/or aircraft. I've switched 4 CFIs and tried 5 flight schools prior to getting my PPL in a total of about 70 hours. About 10 of those hours were non-training flying which also went to the logbook and was essential. Don't feel locked in. Combine training with some kind of utility during the flights. If I started at Sling Academy and powered it straight to the PPL without daddling around exploring other schools, aircraft and flying cross-country for the heck if it - I'd probably knock out the PPL within the 40 hours. But, the overall experience would've been more limited, as well.
@damirzanne3 жыл бұрын
there is almost no reliable CFI , they are almost all just building their hours instructing , and they will move up to a flying job as soon as they can … don’t get attached to your instructor , focus on your goals and needs
@ethan.amosberg8353 жыл бұрын
@@damirzanne The thing that really sucks is when there retired and still don't want to make time and they're one of the 3 instructors withing a 2 hour radius of your home/school
@suzukirider90303 жыл бұрын
@@ethan.amosberg835 ...if it's that bad - might consider planning things out much further ahead, taking a couple weeks off work and doing your PPL at a place in another city or state. Say, two weeks, 14 days - 100% dedicated to this. Instead of trying to fit it bit by bit into your normal life.
@billkeenan10853 жыл бұрын
I have been flying privately and professionally for over 40 years. I will never know it all. It takes all of us to have all of the knowledge. Many ratings and 18,000 hours later: to this day my private pilot certificate is one of the biggest and best accomplishments of my entire life. It would be for you as well. Keep the windshield clean and have some fun.
@flywiththeguys3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing that. Love hearing from people who have been in the industry for a while.
@edjarrett3164 Жыл бұрын
I agree. Go fly to places that have good food. Go challenge yourself to fly to strange fields because they have unique characteristics and terrain. Enjoy the flying world with optimism and mindfulness. It makes flying special.
@0rcsapo_3 жыл бұрын
What I wish I knew? No one, literally no one, is a natural pilot. My dad was a fighter pilot and later an airline pilot. I flew a plane before I got my learner’s permit in a car. Then life happened and I stopped flying at about 10 hrs, but I was always around airplanes, and I even went to fly in the simulators with my dad at work. I knew all about how airplanes worked, and the things that made them work, and man did I love flying video games. All that said- when I was 27 and actually started flying by myself towards my private pilot, I had to learn to fly just like everyone else. Aviation may have been in my blood, but it wasn’t in my hands, yet. Neither was the airmanship that only comes with actually comes from flying a real airplane. It takes actual hard work, but don’t be disheartened by the challenge. It’s worth the effort you put into it. I fly jets now, and I’m so glad I put in the effort to make it through my private pilot certificate in a C172 with a local CFI. It’s been quite the journey, but it’s totally worth it.
@flywiththeguys3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing that!
@sinfulcoin3 жыл бұрын
How old are you now?
@stefeniedavidmusic3 жыл бұрын
Flying the plane is the easy part. It's all the other stuff you have to know. Also, as an former instructor, i was always up front about what the training would actually cost, not what the minimum hours cost. People told me that they really appreciated that.
@flywiththeguys3 жыл бұрын
Glad you were up front. WAY too many misleading instructors out there. They may think they can get you done in 40, but sticking to the averages is much more realistic. Then shoot for the 40. If it happens, its a bigger win!
@millenialmuscle82542 жыл бұрын
So what would be the cost?
@captainn14202 жыл бұрын
@@millenialmuscle8254 flying an airplane is simply easy the most complicated and difficult thing for a student to carry out and know what the theory is I have known many students that the instructors saturate them and annoy them with so much information that they cannot easily retain, however they exist other very dynamic current mechanisms from which you can learn quietly and then take from theory to practice without any problem
@familyhearingcenterofidaho59732 жыл бұрын
Yes, you can even teach a monkey to wiggle sticks, but all that knowledge is the "sticky stuff" to flying! lol
@royturbodiesel3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your videos. While sitting and handling C19 here in Norway, I noticed a C172 in the sky (We have a small air field only 7 km from my home), and the thought dropped into my head: YOU HAVE TO DO IT NOW... So, 1 month later, I’m 20% into the «book» and have had my first lession in the air. I’m aiming to finish the theory exams before christmas, so I’m on a full throttle study here. But, my youngest daughter is 19, so it’s actually no problem using 2-3 hours daily for this. Watching a few videos like yours, are also very encouraging for me. Thank you, and keep up the good word. God bless.
@flywiththeguys3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! And good luck with your studies. I'm digging into my next rating so I'm right there with you!
@Jdrew273 жыл бұрын
Thank you for putting it out there that instuctors don't know everything. It's one of the hardest things for me to deal with as Instructor I hate that I don't know everything but it is what it is avation is too vast for one to know everything that's what makes it awesome!
@flywiththeguys3 жыл бұрын
You’re welcome. I had a jab at Drs in there too but edited it out in the end. I would rather someone tell me they don’t know but know where to find it and we look it up together.
@speedomars3 жыл бұрын
As with all things you may choose to learn about...it is ALWAYS up to you to find the answers....even in a classroom environment trust no one and nothing unless you verify for yourself what you think you are learning is the truth.
@nevadahamaker71493 жыл бұрын
1:12 One of the best representations of the four primary forces I've seen. When I got my PPL back in the early 2000s, the iPad didn't exist yet, and I don't recall online ground school being available yet. I never had my BFR... until last November. Now I own my own plane and I can't imagine flying without the situational awareness I get with my ADS-B in receiver and iPad.
@flywiththeguys3 жыл бұрын
I know right! I feel so spoiled and wonder why the FAA is so slow to adopt such amazing technologies.
@Averagedude7643 жыл бұрын
Sometimes I feel like I’m cheating by using the GPS and iPad in the cockpit.
@cessna177flyer33 жыл бұрын
Yep. With the iPad/ADS-B combo in my Cardinal, I have more SA than in the 777 I fly for work.
@HeyIFoundACamera3 жыл бұрын
I completed about 30 hours of my flight training before I had an injury that grounded me. I am planning to restart training once I recover, but even if I have to do those 30 hours over, IT IS NEVER BORING! The time I spend in in the air is the closest I've ever been to bliss, and I can't imagine it ever becoming "boring."
@flywiththeguys3 жыл бұрын
I agree that it’s never boring! Love getting up in the air for no other reason than it’s the air.
@rpcraighead3 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoy every minute. But... (not to be Johnny Raincloud here) you haven't had to meet standards under pressure yet. Don't get so addicted to the bliss that it bursts your bubble when things get challenging.
@captainn14202 жыл бұрын
you have a lot of enthusiasm but if you are in recovery and you need a little time to be able to resume the practices it is not too much you should occasionally read some good updated lessons from this year and which would be very useful if you need to know something else write me
@shevetlevi28213 жыл бұрын
All of this is dead on. I'm a low time (~160 hours) private pilot and I've since given it up because of the cost. It's the kind of thing that either do it alot or not at all. It's not easy, you do have to plan and commit to the training. Regarding training with a free lance instructor vs. FAA approved school I definitely recommend a school. Flying has too many seemingly disparate subjects. You will be more sure to learn all of them if you train under an organized methodical curriculum. I started learning under a free lance instructor, soloed, and then my training seemed to be less directed and I didn't really see the direction I was going. When I switched to an approved school it suddenly felt like I had an organized road map to my goals. Regarding the didactic/ academic part of the training. I agree that you should get your medical certificate out of the way at the beginning. I'd say the same for the didactic. This way you'll understand the what and why of flying as you're actually doing the flying part. I started with the Gleim course that he mentioned. It's as dry as eating sawdust. I highly recommend Rod Machado's "Private Pilot Handbook". It's completely comprehensive, readable and written with a sense of humor that will keep you going. It also has the best explanation of theoretical weather that I've ever seen. Also, you will run up against some things that will discourage you. Even after soloing when we started crosswind landings I thought, "Okay, this will be the thing that keeps me from being a pilot." After a couple of hours I had it figured out. Then flying by instruments (this was in the mid 1980s with all analog dials, no glass cockpits) I'd be 3-400 feet off my assigned altitude, 15 kts. off my airspeed, and 60 degrees off my assigned heading. After a few hours I was flying to the FAA standard. There's very little that's intuitive about flying and it's a definite challenge. We're not birds and planes don't fly in the same way that birds do. But it's worth it and amazing to be up at 8500 feet and instead of looking out to the side through the little porthole sized window of an airliner to have a G-d's eye view of everything around you. You won't regret it.
@flywiththeguys3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing all that!
@Tamsetki3 жыл бұрын
Fun fact: it takes me 3 hours for 1 hour flight. I always spend additional 2 hours to get airplane from hangar, do the preflight check, cleaning it afterwards etc.
@TheMarketingShowChannel3 жыл бұрын
Yes! 2 hours booked on the calendar usually equals 1.3 Hobbs for me!
@flywiththeguys3 жыл бұрын
GAH! I should have put that one in there. GOOD CALL! With the ground, preflight, securing, and debrief it can take more physical time than flight time.
@TheMarketingShowChannel3 жыл бұрын
@@flywiththeguys for sure
@MiamiTabor3 жыл бұрын
Yes. I’m an airline captain now but I started by going to my local airport and taking lessons. A great feeling is the first time you take by yourself and it only gets better.
@flywiththeguys3 жыл бұрын
AGREED! Every time I fly now I'm like a kid in a candy store.
@scottb.6725 Жыл бұрын
The 1st take-off is a natural high!
@craigpaske93513 жыл бұрын
Additionally, I would highly recommend you continue in your training and become instrument rated. It can save your life and the lives of any precious cargo. Besides, being able to fly in IMC greatly increases your flying experience.
@flywiththeguys3 жыл бұрын
Great tip!
@russbell64183 жыл бұрын
And just makes you way more comfortable with flight decisions.
@chrisschoelzel34142 жыл бұрын
I had a discovery flight January 22, I am now looking to set-up my PPL course (need financing and scheduling figured out first) and I hope to become an airline pilot one day. Thank Yall!
@flywiththeguys2 жыл бұрын
Best of luck!
@eman3313 жыл бұрын
I did my discovery flight on September 17 and had a blast! I drop off my daughter at school in the morning and I work in the afternoon. I am planning on using that morning free time to take the plunge and go to flight school to get that PPL. Thanks for being a resource.
@flywiththeguys3 жыл бұрын
That is awesome! Good luck and let us know if there is anything we can do to help!
@suzukirider90303 жыл бұрын
Look into getting a "Sport pilot" license. It's about 60% of the time and $$$ of a PPL. Main drawback is aircraft availability - you can ONLY fly LSA-category with it. But, having a Sport Pilot license lets you get a lot of the PPL hours done while actually utilizing it
@captainn14202 жыл бұрын
It is super interesting as you depend on a short time it is not too much to read you a little about this year's pilots manual if you want to know more about this write me and so you can study and improve a lot quietly at home knowing does not take up space or space a hug for you
@CascadiaAviation3 жыл бұрын
Yep, took me precisely 65 hours. I would recommend combining some flights. Need night flight time, foggle time, and cross country time? Do a night XC flight with the foggles! However at the same time be honest with yourself and don’t skimp on training! Most important by far, remember to have fun!
@speedomars3 жыл бұрын
You will be a low time risk until you learn than how many hours you have, what your scores are on tests, and how many ratings you have matter ZERO.
@suzukirider90303 жыл бұрын
Oh, definitely! Combine the hours required - if you need "hours" for whatever (night, or simulated instrument) - make it a cross-country flight as well. Otherwise you'd have to later $hell out for the "cross-country" hour$ separately
@Shiloh85489 ай бұрын
It’s always been a dream of mine to become a pilot. Well now that I’m nearly 50 I plan to make that dream come true. Came here for pointers and definitely had to subscribe!
@flywiththeguys9 ай бұрын
Thanks for joining us! We're only going to get crazier as time progresses. =)
@bettigio3 жыл бұрын
Even if you’re not planning to become a professional pilot, I still recommend you go for an IFR rating. It is expensive, but the knowledge and experience you’ll get it’s priceless. Cavok skies on your flights👍
@flywiththeguys3 жыл бұрын
I hear that from a lot of people. I does help you become a more precise pilot for sure.
@bettigio3 жыл бұрын
@@flywiththeguys Where the VFR flight ends, the IFR begins! Not to mention, IFR save lives.
@speedomars3 жыл бұрын
No one needs to get an IFR rating unless they plan to fly in IMC. And even then, if they can avoid IMC they never need one. The rating requires a LOT of expense, time and effort to get and then to keep it current...and without currency you will lose the rating and possible your life.
@bettigio3 жыл бұрын
@@speedomars Sorry but I disagree. Thousands of VFR pilots lost their lives due to spatial disorientation. IFR is expensive indeed, but it's never a waste of money. Recurrent? Once you start flying IFR, 6 approaches, holdings and navigation in 6 months is easy to reach. If a person needs to fly a lot for work or other cross country reasons, it's the best solution since you don't depend too much on weather. But if you just want to fly around the city, then yes, you don't need IFR.
@speedomars3 жыл бұрын
@@bettigio Absolutely wrong. All pilots are at risk in IMC (I assume your statement is about that and not just a silly idea that non-instrument rated pilots are somehow more prone to crashing). Just having an instrument rating is no shield of protection in aviation. To assume such a thing is not just faulty logic, but reveals an attitude of "invincibility" that as a pilot will lead to real trouble.
@xplanereviewer2 жыл бұрын
I am actually totally knew to flying and got into watching Jeff Favigano's X-Plane videos about 3-2 years ago and spent hours watching X-Plane from other channels. I live in Las Vegas "awesome place to learn to fly with military restrictions and bunch of other stuff" and I'm lower-middle class so need to get my license AS-CHEAP-AS-POSSIBLE and I'm sure there are other people "who can't afford to pay what ever it takes to get their license" that needs to get it as cheap as possible too so I"ve created my channel "using X-Plane as my MAIN learning too" and hopefully this speeds me through ground school, familiarity with the cockpit, gauges, instruments, procedures, etc. and I will be documenting the whole journey. I know it'll be a boring channel but if at least one person learns to get their license from it that otherwise wouldn't have even thought about it then the work of running the channel was worth it in my opinion.
@flywiththeguys2 жыл бұрын
Check out our channel page, we have a video on the cheapest way to do it over on the channel page. Make sure to check it out.
@paulchristensen75153 жыл бұрын
I earned my PPL back in 1996 flying a Piper Tomahawk and C172. It took about 45 hours and the total cost was $4444.44. I got my PPL through a flight school and I wouldn't recommend it. In my opinion, the Airline Pilot wannabees that work there are more interested in logging hours toward their ATP than they are in teaching. For my instrument rating I found a CFII through a flying club that had a solid day job and instructed on weekends because he sincerely wanted to teach. If I had to do my PPL all over again, that is the way I would go...a flight instructor through a flying club who wasn't trying to be an ATP.
@flywiththeguys3 жыл бұрын
WHOLE heartedly agree! Thank yo for sharing this!
@PatFitzhugh3 жыл бұрын
But have you seen flying club initiation and membership fees lately? They've gone the way of everything else related to aviation.
@henrychinaski846 Жыл бұрын
I'm learning to fly in Germany on a Scheibe Falke 25 C touring motor glider. Last autumn I began ground school, more than 100 hours, and passed the theoretical exam 03/23. As you say: I think commitment is extremely important! Our SF25C has a central wheel, a tailwheel and auxiliary wheels attached to the wings. Taking off was difficult in the beginning. Took me over 27 h and 120 landings till I soloed last week. Don't underestimate the dedication and time!! In our flying club, approx. 75 percent of all students who started, quit. We have excellent teachers! They just underestimate the time and commitment!!!
@flywiththeguys Жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing that! It'll help someone for sure!
@BroAnarchy3 жыл бұрын
Very informative video! The many things you mentioned in this video remind me so much of getting a Class A CDL for driving a truck (especially the Medical Certificate which we have to get, and the rules and regulations of the DOT) keep up the videos man, love your stuff.
@dancahill91223 жыл бұрын
WOW ! A trucker that flies ! There are very, very few of us ! Getting my PPL, or at least my sport pilot, is on my bucket list !
@flywiththeguys3 жыл бұрын
I've heard this from a few people. Kind of funny the similarities.
@jljohns21552 жыл бұрын
The medical exam Blood Pressure limitations are more strict for CDL than for FAA Class III. I recommend Mayo Clinic RST. If you need a special Issuance. I am ASL VFR And CLASS A Tier 1 Interstate Tanker. So is my A&P
@feliperodriguez1963 жыл бұрын
What a great video, definitely true, thanks for sharing such important information. I have learned the hard way, attempted twice in a period of 6 years to obtain my pilots license, had to stop both times due to running out of money. Believe it or not, having a flight simulator at home setup with proper tools, like yoke, rudder pedals, will help to stay proficient, and will help you save tons of money. The airplane is “not” the place to learn everything, it can get expensive!! If you can learn before you jump on the plane, please do so!
@flywiththeguys3 жыл бұрын
You hear that all the time. The Plane isn't a good classroom. There are a lot of great training tools you can use outside the flight deck that can really help. We're working on using a flight simulator to help you become a better pilot right now.
@PatFitzhugh3 жыл бұрын
I started on MS Flight Simulator with the first one, back in the mid-1980s and have been using it since then. I finally switched to X-Plane due to the catastrophe that was MSFS 2020; it was the best move I ever made. As for flying real planes, I've yet to find anything difficult or challenging--I've been doing all of that on the sims for years. The only surprise was how sudden wind gusts, updrafts, and downdrafts make you feel like you are being violently thrown around. But I'm used to that now.
@timothystone49983 жыл бұрын
Always fly the airplane and always maintain the integrity of the cabin, so between the objects leave the wings with a few behind you slowing you down
@Mooney201er3 жыл бұрын
Starting out, I wish I knew that the majority of primary flight instructors are newbs themselves. 300 hours may sound like a lot when you have 3. But in retrospect, they were barely experienced enough to fly themselves. Makes me realize why it took so many hours to get a certificate under their instruction. That's because they were learning how to fly and how to instruct on my time and dollar.
@flywiththeguys3 жыл бұрын
That is a good point, and VERY true. Especially if they never left the flight school that they are now training at. There is a lot to learn beyond the flight school.
@suzukirider90303 жыл бұрын
True. The flight training process is very bootstrapped. You get your PPL - next thing to do is to help the next guy get it. But, an 5'000+ hours ATP or military pilot has long forgotten how to fly a C-172 or what kind of BS is asked on the initial PPL exam, so he'd be LESS helpful to a student than a 200 hour instructor who's ONLY ever flown the C-172s (or whatever the school uses for training)
@cessna177flyer33 жыл бұрын
@@suzukirider9030 I’m in the category you describe and disagree slightly. While a 5000+ hour military pilot may not be familiar with the 172, they can come up to speed very quickly. More importantly, they have the “big picture” and years of experience and can teach a student WHY they need to learn something, opposed to “just memorize this”. But I don’t think there are many of us in the average flight school.
@Helspar063 жыл бұрын
This is one of the better videos I've seen on this subject that new pilots should know. A small thing: Lots of flying schools call themselves clubs, so make sure you know what one you're actually signing up with. Its also possible to buy an airplane on your own and hire an instructor.
@flywiththeguys3 жыл бұрын
Yep! We have a whole video on investigating flight schools too, to help people pick a good one.
@coalcreeker5833 жыл бұрын
This may not be helpful but it might be interesting to some. Back in 2001 I was working in Virginia and heard about a small airport just south of Lynchburg with a number of classic airplanes. It wasn’t too far away so I drove over just to see the planes. My father (who is 94 now) and my oldest brother both learned to fly before they learned to drive. My grandfather was an FBO in western Oklahoma. My father soloed in a Taylorcraft and I think my brother soloed in a 7AC Champion. Even my sister soloed before we moved from Oklahoma to Colorado in 1965. Anyway, I’ve always had a love for classic planes. I asked the local instructor at this airport what a demo ride would cost and he asked “Do you want a demo or a lesson? Same price” So I took my first flight lesson in a Piper J4. I had never even heard of a J4. The airport owner wanted to keep costs as low as possible. The plane was only $15 an hour wet and the instructor was only another $15. $30 an hour total for flight lessons in a J4 taildragger. He had a Cessna 150 that was $30 an hour but I opted for the J4. Anyway, I booked as much time as I could but only got in 4 hours of flight time before my job finished up and I had to return home to Denver. I never did continue with flight lessons because of the cost but I will always treasure that time in Virginia taking my first lessons.
@flywiththeguys3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing that story!
@coalcreeker5833 жыл бұрын
@@flywiththeguys The old man who owned the airport has since sold the flight school operations and the cost went up significantly.
@tamasdombi21223 жыл бұрын
If like me you only had the time and budget to fly once a week: -Expect the flight training to go on for over a year. -Flight school schedules are very full and you need to book well in advanced. -There are a lot of weather cancelations and with little time on the schedule you might not fly for several weeks in a row, this means that you don't retain or progress as quickly and it will take more hours of training. -Plan to study and restudy a lot. Make extensive & organized notes that you revisit frequently. -If you are older it tends to take a bit longer to learn/retain flying skills and the requisite knowledge. -It is a very expensive hobby to learn and maintain. -It's all worth it in the end!
@flywiththeguys3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your comments! All good and valuable information. I went the long route myself, flying once a week... or less. Took a few years, TOTALLY WORTH IT!
@SimonTekConley3 жыл бұрын
I laughed at the training material part. I have books and other stuff from other classes I've taken, and have barely cracked them open again since taking the training that required them
@flywiththeguys3 жыл бұрын
I know right. I do a lot of research before videos so I probably crack open the old books more than most…. And it’s still not that often.
@SimonTekConley3 жыл бұрын
@@flywiththeguys I was thinking IT and firefighter/EMS books for me. I would love to get a sports pilot general aviation license one day, but as a hobby.
@mongoose333538183 жыл бұрын
All good comments about knowing things before learning to fly. I'd include this: make sure your instructor is following a syllabus and you should have a copy so you can track your progress. I wish I'd known this before I started; I figure it cost me between 10 and 15 hours because it wasn't clear what and when we were doing certain things. If there's not a plan, look somewhere else....
@flywiththeguys3 жыл бұрын
Well said! A lot of students fail because their instructor fails to plan. We acutally have a whole video on how to make sure your not relying on your instructor to guide you through the process - kzbin.info/www/bejne/fXiYn2ZrZtBkaq8
@FBI8163 жыл бұрын
I wish someone had told me about electronic logbooks when I first started. I love the paper logbooks, but I’m wishing I had started an electronic logbook long ago. They keep track of literally everything and it’s so easy to look up the information. It’s all calculated for you instead of having to work through pages and pages of log entries. The electronic logbook even has lots of columns that the traditional paper logbook doesn’t. It’s so convenient. I had 2200hrs before I learned about the electronic logbooks and it would take forever to go back and add up all my pages now. If you’re shooting to make a career out of flying, find an electronic logbook.
@flywiththeguys3 жыл бұрын
I still haven't moved to one personally. I do take pictures of the pages from time to time but an electroic flight logbook would be great. How do they work with endorsements?
@FBI8163 жыл бұрын
@@flywiththeguys endorsements are easy. They are preloaded into the App and then you just have an instructor sign with their finger. Piece of cake. They’ve thought through all of it
@westjohnathan2 жыл бұрын
Amen, I love foreflight log book. I had to spend hours to enter my paperbook in to it because I wanted it all there. Wish I would have known when I started.
@alangarrett11813 жыл бұрын
Good and accurate run down of the true challenges especially the cost factor. GA costs have tripled in the last 20 years and insurance costs are through the roof for pilots with less than 500 hours who think they might venture into aircraft ownership. It borders on ridiculous.
@flywiththeguys3 жыл бұрын
I agree. I need to make a video on how to pay for pilot training.
@johnreed88723 жыл бұрын
Great video and topic! One thing that kinda surprised me was that the vast majority of my flying is Solo. I somehow had the image in my mind that everyone I know would be clamoring to have me take them flying!! Not so. Not everyone is nearly as excited about aviation as I am. That being said, I greatly enjoy ANY time in the air, Solo or otherwise! Thanks again for the great content! Blue Skies!
@flywiththeguys3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing! I found that to be true for me too. So much, that I would consider a 2 place plane instead of 4 for 90% of how I fly. Great points!
@vk2ig3 жыл бұрын
That was the experience of a colleague of mine. We'd both graduated from university, and our first jobs were with the same organisation. He decided he was going to move on after 6 months, and decided to spend that time getting his PPL. The day after he solo'ed, he asked if I wanted to fly with him: "Yep, no worries!" It was a great flight, and I still savour the fact that I was his first passenger.
@jhbf3 жыл бұрын
Flying was fun at first until it got frustrating and to the point that the school told me to quit before solo. There is a big learning curve. Expect this even more if you don't drive. Try to practice those hand-eye coordination and motor skills as much as possible and remember to have fun.
@flywiththeguys3 жыл бұрын
It may have been the instructors....
@suzukirider90303 жыл бұрын
You don't drive a motor vehicle but tried to learn to fly an airplane first? Damn, that's... difficult. I mean, a lot of pilot training kind of assumes the student has some experience operating motor vehicles...
@jhbf3 жыл бұрын
@@suzukirider9030 I can assure you it can be done. Two buddies of mine have done it and are doing exceptionally well in their training. Sometimes you're just lucky and learn on the fly - literally.
@suzukirider90303 жыл бұрын
@@jhbf Well of course it can be done, but one gotta kind of factor in the hours it takes to learn how to drive a car or motorcycle. Those hours, at least in USA, are usually learned from one's parent sitting in the right seat, and certainly don't cost $200 / hour. It's not the same, of course. But at least the tech stuff of an aircraft is much easier to grasp if you've tinkered with your dad's old car as a kid, and then your own car or motorcycle... NOT having that experience adds, perhaps, several hours of very expensive flight training... :-(
@jhbf3 жыл бұрын
@@suzukirider9030 Unfortunately I didn’t have that privilege and realized too late. Oh well. There are a copious amount of reasons as well but hey, it is what it is. You fail, you learn.
@providencejaskar493 жыл бұрын
Going from I get to go flying to have to ... Is exactly how I feel right now... he hit the nail on the head on so much... I was really thinking about quiting bc I thought I wasn't getting it...good video, I feel more encouraged to keep at it now
@flywiththeguys3 жыл бұрын
You got this! Keep at it. I promise it will be worth it.
@jayarnold96402 жыл бұрын
did you get your PPL?
@josephrasberry961 Жыл бұрын
Thank you. Just had quad bypass but in excellent shape now. No heart damage etc. We will see. Thank you again
@flywiththeguys Жыл бұрын
Good to hear! If you're just looking for recreation check out the Sport Pilot Certificate! No medical requried!
@jackgerke5253 жыл бұрын
Ground school was offered as an elective class my junior year of high school. I did real well and could have pass the test but I weighed the options. I didn’t want to do that for a living and figured it would be a very expensive hobby. I can see why someone would want to go all the way and that’s ok, no jealousy. It’s nice to know why airplanes can fly, makes you feel safe when you travel.
@flywiththeguys3 жыл бұрын
I agree. I'm less terrified of turbulence because of my knowledge.
@Averagedude7643 жыл бұрын
If I had to do it over again, I’d buy an airplane like a 172/182. Owning your own plane really makes you aware of the systems if you take care of it. The only down side is not learning different systems jumping from plane to plane.
@yoyojoe92403 жыл бұрын
10/10/21As a current Commercial S/E, M/E Land, Intrument rated pilot (began flying in 1983). Spent 68G's, (including "a couple of "Block flight hrs".),...never wanted to Fly for the "Big A'lines" but it opened other "doors" that were and still are.....Fun..fun!! (and proffitable). What I wish I would've known then is that Flight Instructors "take OFF" when they find a "Real Job"...so You go thru quite a few of them during initial and Mid range learning period.
@flywiththeguys3 жыл бұрын
Good point there. Should have included that one.
@Brave_Aviator3 жыл бұрын
This is sooo true lol. Lots of time commitment and studying indeed. I am a current student pilot and the studying portion has gotten boring a lot…..
@MikiDawn5773 жыл бұрын
Systems is a ton of fun when you get into commercial, don't know if all flight schools go into depth, but my flight school does!
@speedomars3 жыл бұрын
Do not cram or make yourself crazy with the ground school portion. Pick at it a little at a time and then get your passing score on the test...do not try to ace the test, just pass it. No one, not even you will care what your scores were a year after you get your ticket.
@DragonJ-ui9gg3 жыл бұрын
I started my flight lessons on my 13th birthday when my Grandfather tricked me into thinking we was going to buy a remote control airplane but when we pulled up to corporate air charter which now is called horizon my heart dropped as I had never even been flying in my life. My first time flying ever and the second we left the ground I was hooked. Unfortunately my family life took a dramatic change and money became the issue my grandfather got cancer and unfortunately I was never able to finish. It’s on my bucket list. I will achieve my goal. Stay safe out there everyone
@flywiththeguys3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing and we hope you get to it someday!
@cessna177flyer33 жыл бұрын
Keep moving forward, Dragon. It’s worth it.
@kencochrane87953 жыл бұрын
Dont be afraid to switch flight instructors if you feel you are not getting good communication from the one you started with.
@michaelb.89533 жыл бұрын
That is probably one of the most important comments as a bad instructor can make or break your training.
@flywiththeguys3 жыл бұрын
It's funny because I say that in one video, and say how it can cost you in another. BUT, it's VERY important to have a good instructor and a lot of flight school students don't realize they can ask for another instructor if they don't like theres.
@MikiDawn5773 жыл бұрын
Sometimes you need to take a break, it took taking a week off to figure out how to stick a landing properly! Now I can land first try (minus straight crosswind, but that's never really fun to deal with) when landing, whether doing short field, soft field or obstacle landings or a mix of all 4.
@flywiththeguys3 жыл бұрын
I can't stress this enough. Taking a break to think or even chair fly really helps. Also taking a break from the training and going on fun flights really recharges the batteries.
@MikiDawn5773 жыл бұрын
@@flywiththeguys I 100% agree!
@daniellanders57949 ай бұрын
I’m scheduled for my checkride and my advice is the old adage “The cockpit is a terrible classroom”. The more you know from checklists, power settings, radio calls etc BEFORE you get in the air, the better. I wasted a lot of expensive hours learning ground school things and chair flying in the plane. You can do it, but it’s expensive
@flywiththeguys9 ай бұрын
AGREED! You don't have time to think. I wish we could use more sim time towards PPL. Could help a lot.
@gorgly1233 жыл бұрын
I agree, have your medical/student pilot certificate in hand before proceeding past the introductory flight. I had to wait for the FAA to approve it and send it back to me which caused a delay before I could solo.
@flywiththeguys3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing that! I didn’t get mine first but didn’t have much of a problem thankfully.
@youngbloodalan3 жыл бұрын
My childhood experience flying with my father made me realize you can't really count on anything unless you have a instrument rating. We flew from Salinas, California to Lake Wales florida one Christmas Piper Cherokee Arrow II. We were stuck in Florida for over a month after Christmas because the weather somewhere across the country was bad. I think my parents didn't want to get stuck somewhere like midland Texas cooped up with a couple kids for a couple days while the weather cooperated. So, I'm working on my PPL now and will continue on. On a seperate note, I will agree despite flying in the back seat of a single engine plane for tons of time, riding on every lesson with my dad and flying in a variety of aircraft with my job, Being in the PIC seat is a completely different experience. Its a good brain drain, so fun.
@dr.greggwareham5713 жыл бұрын
All true. Working on my PPL now.
@flywiththeguys3 жыл бұрын
Good luck with it! Let us know if you have any questions!
@ericthomas81473 жыл бұрын
I credit serious "play time" in flight simulators in my youth to my 42 hours of flight training before I was ready for my checkride. And, based on how my checkride went, it should have been 45 hours, with those three extra hours with a different instructor. I now believe instructor variety is pretty important.
@flywiththeguys3 жыл бұрын
We're working on a video for the flight simulator stuff today!
@rolnthunder67373 жыл бұрын
Each instructor has their own approach and focus. Near the end of your trg, try to get up once or twice with another, who will probably pick out some other points to work on. They may also be able to explain things in a different manner that will help your understanding. Once you get your lic, fly as many different types of aircraft as you can. High wind, low wing, tail dragger, cloud poppers and cross country machines.... each plane has its own quirks and will broaden your horizon 😁 as well as keep flying fun.
@dutchygirl3 жыл бұрын
Great information! This will help others for sure!!
@flywiththeguys3 жыл бұрын
Hopefully. It’s info I wish every knew before starting.
@dutchygirl3 жыл бұрын
@@flywiththeguys You have so much vids that are truly really helpful and you have a great personality!! That's why I started following you and still do!! I like to help others too. Just recently I had a good conversation with a guy that is saving to start his journey. I had to correct quite some things, as the school only mentioned the minimum hours and left out some other important stuff for the finances list. It can be crazy out there, but I know you (and hopefully me too) can make the difference :-) Keep 'm coming, Carl!
@camsmeltzer93883 жыл бұрын
I'm in the middle of self study ground school - thanks for the video!! Looking forward to flying!!!
@flywiththeguys3 жыл бұрын
Awesome! GOOD LUCK!
@readmore36343 жыл бұрын
My late Uncle COL. GLENN KRUGGEL U.S. Air Force, born in 1926, Beaumont, Calif. Piloting nine different military aircraft (from the P-51 Mustang to the F-4 Phantom), flying in three wars with almost 300 missions and serving our country for over 33 years. His last flight Jan. 24, 2012. After retiring he took me golfing and flying once a week (in his Decathlon, later his Inverted RV-4 he built, I was 22). His influence (and giving rides) generated many pilots in our circle of family and friends. I had about 200 hrs of stick time (much of it doing acrobatic) before he & my aunt moved to Vegas. I had been raising my 4 kids and just couldn't immerse myself into flight so I never pursued a license until I was 54.... After solo-ing I found myself doing T&G's for hours at a time....especially in crosswind conditions (fun). Level flight was not a practical way to travel for a plumbing contractor so I put it on the back-burner. I'm 62 now, kids are out....Flying is fun...I was never afraid to fly.... my uncle once said "just don't be a douchebag and bring it in on it's nose, you'll be fine". ...I said " If you ever pass-out while were up here I'll put it on the ground in one piece". Common sense, discipline and practice goes a long way in staying alive....but if flying scares you...you may want to re-think your priorities.
@obadiahkaemmerling14743 жыл бұрын
I would say that the hardest part for me is just honestly learning everything for the knowledge test lol
@flywiththeguys3 жыл бұрын
Yep. Thats why that one was in here. People don't realize it's a big part of getting your certificate.
@flightTime1233 жыл бұрын
Wow I just randomly stumbled upon this channel and saw N75600. I have a good chunk of time in that airplane!
@flywiththeguys3 жыл бұрын
Do tell! Before or after Phoenix?
@flightTime1233 жыл бұрын
@@flywiththeguys this was when I was living in Phoenix in 2019. Rented it out of DVT with a buddy. We flew the crap out of it haha
@flywiththeguys3 жыл бұрын
@@flightTime123 Nice. I was still managing the club then....
@ajhubbell37543 жыл бұрын
A few other things you need to know that I wish I had known. Private pilots are more likely to have accidents. Not because they weren’t trained well but because they don’t continue to practice their emergency procedures on a regular basis. As a Corporate pilot I have to go to recurrent training every nine months where we do nothing but emergencies in the simulator. Secondly, just because you have earned your commercial pilot certificate doesn’t mean you can grab a plane and start your own business. The part 135 certificates that allow you to run your own business are not handed out frequently. It also doesn’t mean that you will get a job right away. You need a lot of hours and experience before you can expect to get your first flying job. Expect your first real pilot job 5 + years after you start training (and that’s if you’re really motivated).
@flywiththeguys3 жыл бұрын
All true stuff. Thanks for sharing that.
@crazyloveseries2 жыл бұрын
Great quick video filled with important information
@flywiththeguys2 жыл бұрын
Yep! Thats what we were aiming for.
@scottwaters26513 жыл бұрын
l love flying l have over 200 hours logged, the trouble with me l stop and start to much. But it isn't always my fault ,life can just get in the way, but l never ever give up.
@flywiththeguys3 жыл бұрын
Yes. Life gets in the way. Just like it gets in the way of me making videos from time to time. =)
@WolfPilot3 жыл бұрын
Wow, Spot on advice Carl. I was at 67 hours before I did my check ride. I also agree with the get an Ipad and foreflight.
@flywiththeguys3 жыл бұрын
Yep. I didn’t call out foreflight. Should have…
@PatFitzhugh3 жыл бұрын
Every instructor I've talked to has said to leave the iPad and ForeFlight home until after you get your license.
@Immortal_Vanguard3 жыл бұрын
Seconded on the medical conditions bit. Back at the end of 2019 (RIIIIIIIIGHT before the ish hit the fan) the FAA updated their ruling on diabetics - including insulin-dependent ones - becoming pilots. Thru the use of Continuous Glucose Monitors, and strict but honestly fair monitoring, a diabetic can now get a Class 1 Medical. If you simply use fingersticks without a CGM, you can still get your Class 3, but 1 and 2 require a CGM. I think in all cases it's still deferred to the main offices, though, for a final decision after the AME checks you out. In the end, what the FAA is looking for is most likely exactly what your endocrinologist is looking for too, so if you're already following your doctor's advice and being a healthy diabetic, in theory you should be a shoe-in.
@flywiththeguys3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing that! Really good stuff.
@kencochrane87953 жыл бұрын
Sadly, its never a shoe-in for us. They torture you every step of the way
@Immortal_Vanguard3 жыл бұрын
@@kencochrane8795 I'm basing off of what I've gotten off of the FAA's website. Have yet to hit up my local AME, so I'm unsure of the other hurdles as of yet.
@PatFitzhugh3 жыл бұрын
They pretty much didn't have a choice but to make the rules more fair. It has come a long way, but there is still much work to do. Unfortunately, most people just assume we can't fly, and never bother to read the documentation or consult with an AME. My own doctor, per her word, has LOTS of diabetic pilots, and for everything from sport pilot to airline pilot. The primary concern is that if the diabetes is advanced and uncontrolled, the pilot could go into diabetic shock, or a coma. This can happen in very extreme cases, albeit very rare. Per the AME I consulted with, the AME performs the medical exam but is required to defer the final decision (issue or do not issue a medical certificate) to the FAA. He said they will want some detailed information about your sugar levels and how well it is being controlled, which can take a while. He told me it's better to obtain that paperwork and information up front, to save lots of time. From there, the FAA can issue, not issue, or request further actions, such as a stress test, etc. The FAA has all of their medical condition protocols posted online, and how each condition is handled, but you will spend a lot of time trying to find it--it's all over their site.
@Immortal_Vanguard3 жыл бұрын
@@PatFitzhugh Oh I can totally confirm that last bit. Every time I delve into the information on the website I feel like I find something new. Also, don't forget the part where some diabetics can go into seizures depending. That's also something that can unfortunately happen. Here's hoping that things go well for me in the future, and that things continue to go well for you.
@ktgunsmith57513 жыл бұрын
Excellent video. For me, learning how to land was the most time-consuming and exhausting part of the whole process.
@flywiththeguys3 жыл бұрын
Very true! We spend a lot of time doing that. My number of landings is crazy high. Love doing them though.
@jamesburns22322 жыл бұрын
Keep practicing landings and do at least 100 landing circuits. The practice will give you muscle memory and you will be able to use that memory the rest of your flying career! 😉
@TheMarketingShowChannel3 жыл бұрын
Just subbed. Sitting at just over 20 hours pre solo and have come across bunches of your very well done videos. Thanks!
@flywiththeguys3 жыл бұрын
Welcome aboard! Glad you're here. Let us know if you need anything specific!
@GrandpasPlace3 жыл бұрын
Well, I wish I would have known more about UL in planes. lol 30+ years ago (JH and HS age) I lived blocks away from the municipal airport. I spent weekends and summers at the airport watching the planes come and go, talking to the pilots, and admiring the beautiful planes. When I turned 17 I went to the little flight school in the airport to sign up. The guy took one look at me and asked "How much do you weigh?" At the time I was 6' and 290lb. After telling him he responded that I weighed too much for the flight school. I took this to mean that I could not get my PPl due to weight. I should note here that I did weight lifting, shot put, and discus in highschool. Over the years I have not really thought about it, sure I admire the planes, heck I even worked for NG, Vought, and AA. It was not tell recently that I realized that it was not a weight problem. Im willing to bet they had Cessna 150s for training. If that was the case and if the instructor weighted 150-180lb then adding that to my weight means that the plane would be able to have 3-8gal of fuel total before hitting the UL limit. Now im looking a planes and considering a PPL. Better late than never. ;)
@flywiththeguys3 жыл бұрын
Awesome. I'm glad you were able to figure that out. And yes, Light sport and smaller planes don't have really great useful load. It's one of the reasons the 172 is a more popular training platform.
@kg0ye3 жыл бұрын
What’s a PPL?
@GrandpasPlace3 жыл бұрын
@@kg0ye Private Pilots License
@harpandharley3 жыл бұрын
Commitment! The more often you fly, the less hours you may need before your check ride. If you stretch out your flying lessons then you may have to spend more time relearning what you have forgotten from your last lesson. I took my check ride at 44 hours but it could have been 60 or 70 hours. I flew 2 or 3 times a week. I was well prepared and easily passed my check ride.
@flywiththeguys3 жыл бұрын
Very true! We actually made a whole video on this.... maybe 2 of them.
@petrjanec69612 жыл бұрын
Thank You for this video.I have just started PPL.
@flywiththeguys2 жыл бұрын
Best of luck!
@justicegusting24763 жыл бұрын
My first cross country flight, after I got my license, was to go to Lake Isabella from San Diego with a buddy to go fishing. Over the San Onofre Nuclear power plant I experienced a stuck exhaust valve in the C150. We ended-up dead-sticking onto Camp Pendleton runway. Silver suited firemen lined the runway next to their fire trucks. I talked to one of them later who told me they wished we would have crashed so they’d have something to do. When I tried to explain to the commanding officer why we were there, he was not amused.
@flywiththeguys3 жыл бұрын
LOL. Nothing like someone so board they wished an airplane would crash. Seriously though, glad the situation worked out.
@DJNateSheer3 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much! I’m looking at it and this is some great advice and things to really think about.
@flywiththeguys3 жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@erichenderson83112 жыл бұрын
Those were all good facts. People often budget well below what they need.
@flywiththeguys2 жыл бұрын
Thanks! It's hard to get actual numbers these days. But we have a few videos on that too!
@steampunklimbo3 жыл бұрын
im so commited to become a pilot someday, ill do whatever it takes!
@flywiththeguys3 жыл бұрын
Love the attitude!
@CyberSystemOverload2 жыл бұрын
A great video and well presented! I have my PPL (MC single engine) and training for both of those was fun - but also it did get boring too , we are all after all human and not droids! But the result makes all of that pale. There is no feeling like getting that white slip and suddenly you can control a flying machine - all by yourself! Two things will add (from experience) for new students: (1.) Do NOT be afraid to change CFIs. YOU are the PAYING customer and if a certain CFI is just not working out just call it quits (politely of course) and go to another. (2.) You will get those (rare) moments during a training flight when you are just not "feeling it" , all enthusiasm for that day has evaporated. Dont hesitate. Speak up "I'd like to return to the airfield now, I've burnt out for today and just getting frustrated" You will have these days and its nothing to be concerned about. Perhaps you are still doing carrier landings or perhaps your chandelles are not within limits. Dont worry, they will come in time! Land the plane, get a coffee and just unwind. Get a good nights sleep. Every tomorrow is a new day!
@flywiththeguys2 жыл бұрын
Great advice! Thanks for sharing it. I tell people all the time to make sure to go on fun flights to break things up. It's not as easy when your at a 141 flight school, but it's for sure worth it to keep people inspired IMO.
@lorinn73143 жыл бұрын
At 16 I could fly, but I didn't study the books, so at fifty I am not a pilot, simple as that, and my dad was my instructor, and he owned his own plane. Study to show yourself approved.
@flywiththeguys3 жыл бұрын
There is a LOT of knowledge that goes along with learning to fly.
@stevenrobson7653 жыл бұрын
Excellent tips, thanks for taking the time
@flywiththeguys3 жыл бұрын
You bet!
@neverclevernorwitty78212 жыл бұрын
3:48 An addendum here. Flying itself, particularly the CRUISE phase of flight (especially in this day of GPS navigation) can be boring. I found when I was a pilot, I was quite enthralled with the activities and procedures of take-off, approach, and landing. However, the time between can be quite mundane for a cross country flight. Sure, you get some beautiful scenery, and sometimes weather doesn't cooperate, but flying for oscillated between high stress (exciting) workload to ... well just staring at gauges.
@flywiththeguys2 жыл бұрын
You're spot on. And sometimes pilots to really realize this until after their private, when there building time for their IR. And then all that hood time... Yea. You nailed it. Thanks for sharing.
@chrism99763 жыл бұрын
Aerospace Science IV (AFJROTC) was ground pilot school taken over the summer in high school. I was excited when I heard that we would get free flight training and a computer! I quit as soon as they passed the books, charts, E6B and learned that there was no actual flying. My naive younger self didn't want to waste the last summer sitting in a classroom. I still regret that decision 30 years later.
@flywiththeguys3 жыл бұрын
Yea. SO much knowledge involved. It’s one of those less glorious things most of us hate…. Especially in our teenage years.
@encryptexglen93823 жыл бұрын
Thanks for all the Great Videos! Real appreciate the tips & tricks. I'm a Canadian learning to fly in Vancouver Canada, as well as flying out of Deer Valley as well! I'm hoping to get my license after starting originally 35 years ago! Getting very close now! Maybe we'll see you around Deer Valley Airport! Jim is my instructor out of Hanger A6! Come say Hi if you are around! :-)
@Frankie27513 жыл бұрын
Best advice I can give is try and knock out the written early. Some instructors will halt your training until you pass the written exam. This usually happens after the solo milestone. So study study study! Good Shepard, prepware, or FAA test books are all good sources!
@gorgly1233 жыл бұрын
Good advice. I took my ground school at a evening high school class in 1972. They even gave the written exam at the end of the class. Since I was still in high school it was basically free. Started training the next year (1973).
@flywiththeguys3 жыл бұрын
Totally agree. This actually held me back until I finally took the knowledge part seriously.
@jeffohmart70533 жыл бұрын
Great video. I'm one of the people that bought a plane to learn to fly. Great friend is a CFII and we had trouble renting a plane (schedules, weather, mostly though broke planes awaiting parts). Found out that there's a lot to owning a plane that could be a course on its own. I recommend that if you don't have a friend who owns a plane it might be better to rent. However, it sure is nice to be able to go anytime our schedules and the weather line up.
@flywiththeguys3 жыл бұрын
It's that last line that gets me. Plus, knowing the plane is in the condition I left it in last.
@jeffohmart70533 жыл бұрын
@@flywiththeguys that's what my CFI said. I only know it from other people's horror stories. I'm lucky to be able to buy one, but not counting maintenance, its cheaper than a new vehicle.
@theminutebible8733 жыл бұрын
It's good to have a flight instructor who is willing to put you through the paces (and even through the wringer) sometimes. I had a wonderful flight instructor. We got along well, he was knowledgeable, engaging, laid back and quite helpful. That was all well and good until I got to my check ride; a VERY stressful experience under the best of circumstances. I had only flown with my laid back CFI and even though I knew the 'stuff' I wasn't in the right mindset for the additional stress of a check ride. I actually got my light sport first, then proceeded on to my Private. The examiner for my private was just plain MEAN. I understand they are supposed to create a certain level of stress, but he was just plain MEAN. Took me two tries, but the second time I was more mentally prepared for his attitude and I did it. Flying was always a lot more stressful for me after that.
@flywiththeguys3 жыл бұрын
Good instructors really help make the learning experience better. I put the plane into an incipient spin once. Remember looking over at him. He looks back at me just smiling.
@jamesburns22322 жыл бұрын
Examiners are supposed to wear the "Black Hats" and be mean to you so that you will realize how serious what you are doing really is. What you don't know or can't demonstrate can kill you. You have your life and the lives of others in your hands and examiners want to put you through the ringer before they certify you. 🧐
@theminutebible8732 жыл бұрын
@@jamesburns2232 I get that they are supposed to test new pilots mettle, but this guy was yelling at me the whole time... and oh yeah, I had to pay him TWICE, how convenient. On my first attempt, when we landed (early) someone was there yelling at him for being 30 minutes late for a meeting. On the attempt that I did pass, HE made two errors, one of which got him yelled at by the ATC.
@gerardmoran95603 жыл бұрын
Great video! One thing stuck out- the notion that you won't need training resources after you become a pilot is way off. I've been flying for decades and as a captain for a major airline I still find myself reviewing training manuals all of the time. If you don't, you'll regret it.
@flywiththeguys3 жыл бұрын
For sure you never stop learning, but how and what you learn will change. I'm just talking about the basic training materials used for the PPL. The only time I busted out my E6B since training was for other videos I made, so why buy a nice metal one? And the flying handbooks can be found online, and are even in foreflight. I've just seen a lot of guys who blow tons of money on nice training books and materials only to have it sit on a shelf for a decade and then give it way.
@dromaker3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the insight, as I go to the flight school today to start...
@flywiththeguys3 жыл бұрын
Have fun and good luck!
@Creations-hj2kq2 жыл бұрын
If you do have medical conditions then on your license it should say you must fly with another pilot to watch your back while flying. For example the worst case is you have brain cancer but you can fly only with another pilot that is qualified to take over in the event you pass out. I think its always a good idea to take someone along with you who can also fly. That doesnt mean the person your taking along is going to take charge the entire way, he is just there as a co-pilot a backup in the event you can not fly. This is a good way to reduce your flying cost if your willing to split the operating cost with the other person to gain more flying time.
@timothystone49983 жыл бұрын
How about your engine out night emergency landing procedure when you getting close too the ground turn landing lights on if you don't like what you see turn them off again .
@JohnSmith-rq8hw3 жыл бұрын
Becoming a pilot is my dream. I have to take two different prescriptions for pain management though that are on the FAA’s naughty list LOL. I’ll have to stick to a flight sim for now.
@flywiththeguys3 жыл бұрын
Sorry to hear that!
@michbus74403 жыл бұрын
It gets boring!?! Man, you have to stop for a while and just appreciate what you're doing. Imagine how many people would give everything to start flying.
@flywiththeguys3 жыл бұрын
Oh I totally agree. I just wanted people to realize that they may hit a wall with it, and to just keep pushing forward. I grateful EVERYTIME I get to fly.
@Brooke564613 жыл бұрын
I have to agree with him on this. Sometimes during training, as happy as I was that I was able to fly, and as much as I normally love being in the air, I would get up in the morning and think, “I HAVE to go to the airport and practice that maneuver….again. *sigh*” It’s not that I lost my love of flying, but sometimes it got repetitive and, yes, boring. I got over those humps and I got excited about doing new things (and I’m always learning new things). But prepping for my check ride got a little boring. (Please note that my instructor had me well prepared for the check ride. It was necessary and we repeated those maneuvers until I could do them in my sleep.) Also, knowing that I had book work to do and knowing I had to study sometimes blocked a little of the enjoyment for me as well. However, nothing worth doing comes easy, and it was worth it. Now I am studying IFR and I have to occasionally remind myself of how rewarding it was to get through the PPL when I get stuck on a hump doing this training. It doesn’t mean I am not grateful. It just means I am human.
@AdamSaxton3 жыл бұрын
The medical thing worries me. I know i need to go talk to a doctor about it and i read some things saying don't immediately go for the Medical Exam until I get things lined up to avoid an initial fail. I was diagnosed with Multiple Sclerosis back in 2014, but haven't even had an episode since 2016. So, that's the first part I need to work out.
@flywiththeguys3 жыл бұрын
For sure do an AME consult first then. If the consult proves to be a no go, take a look at the sport pilot certificate. No medical required as long as you haven't been denied for a class medical before. - kzbin.info/www/bejne/hmi7kKh5jplrjqc
@flyswryan3 жыл бұрын
When your plane has to go in the shop for an inspection, ask the mechanic or AMT to let you shadow him/her so you can learn more about the plane. If he refuses you, it’s probably because he fears you’ll learn just how incompetent and/or dishonest he is and his secret will be out (Insurance companies don’t prohibit owner-assisted annuals).
@flywiththeguys3 жыл бұрын
Agreed. My A&I was happy to have me help. Even show me stuff. I cant sign off on my own plane so... and the longer it took, the more he got paid. =)
@harry29283 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for answering me. That was very kind. I'm impressed. Thank you.
@flywiththeguys3 жыл бұрын
We try to answer all questions and comments. =)
@waynenocton Жыл бұрын
With much effort in preparation, but was able to get my license in just 2-1/2 weeks, that doesn’t include hours flown as a student many years prior, or the single flight I had to do to be able to take the written test, but once that was all done, I hit it hard, actually flew 13 hours in one day. Ended up costing me $1,100 in total, but I had a great friend that lent me his plane so that helped a lot. Also, although I hadn’t been taking lessons, I had flown with friends, a lot, actually went to Sun n Fun, and Oshkosh several times with my friend being PIC, and me not able to log a bit of it. This was also all before gps and before the costs went up so much, but it can still be done fairly cheap with the right circumstances.
@flywiththeguys11 ай бұрын
I agree with your last sentence! Can totally be done for cheap with the right circumstances. This was my story, even though it took me longer to get it done.
@jayrozario32583 жыл бұрын
It's bumpier than I expected. Maybe you can just jump in and read all the instruments but I was not able to. Many things I thought were actually backwards in real life. I'm definitely out of money. I built a simulator which wasn't cheap and I continue to upgrade the hardware but now I can intuitively read the instruments. You need an IACRA number so you can get your medical followed by your student pilot certificate. Once you solo (scary), you can fly alone in your own airplane (scary). Radio calls aren't intuitive and I'm like......what? They're not so bad once you learn who controls what space. Like the taxi ways and parking are controlled by ground control, runways and the airspace around the airport are controlled by the tower and departure/approach seem to control most of the other stuff. Chance are if it's not one of those, you don't belong there. Some airports are in an airspace that's not controlled so you just call your shots on unicom. I don't think those are good places to learn because if you learn there, you're unlikely to go anywhere good.
@flywiththeguys3 жыл бұрын
All good points! Thanks for sharing.
@FlyingFun.3 жыл бұрын
Biggest problem has always been cost. Everything else I could manage but the cost was always too much for me. But if I could go back in time I'd just do it anyway.
@flywiththeguys3 жыл бұрын
I know right. Where theres a will theres a way. I'm glad I was able to make mine happen, but I almost didn't make it.
@edsilco21133 жыл бұрын
Excelent information!!. Thank you!!
@flywiththeguys3 жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@stefanviljoen5723 жыл бұрын
I know this information now before becoming a pilot,so this was very helpfull.
@flywiththeguys3 жыл бұрын
GREAT!
@salomon33433 жыл бұрын
I recommend trainning in a part 141 Faa program. I started my trainning for my PPL private Pilot and the problem was I had diferent instructors and also, delayed my learning.
@flywiththeguys3 жыл бұрын
Thats what I hear about 141 programs too. They cycle through CFI's because as soon as the get their ATP they're gone! I think it comes down to the instructor and what their priorities are, a good question to ask them before you start your training.
@OmarKnowCars3 жыл бұрын
As always. Great content. Thanks!
@flywiththeguys3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! And thank you for watching.
@sheldonnolt64263 жыл бұрын
thanks! keep up the good work
@flywiththeguys3 жыл бұрын
Will do! Thanks for watching and commenting!
@jonesyisdabest2 жыл бұрын
Great video and great advice! I would add that you should finish your ground test before you start flying. This goes for the PPL but also all follow on ratings, you must pass that first before you can even take the flying checkride so why not focus on the written, don't fly until you passed it, then fly a lot right before the checkride. It could save you some time and money along your path to becoming a pilot. Good luck to everyone in pursuit of their dreams. 🛫
@flywiththeguys2 жыл бұрын
Great tip! We recommend this in several other videos actually. =)
@frankdonaldson6210 Жыл бұрын
I am about to start the process of obtaining my pilots license. I am actually taking practice exams and studying before I even begin. Medically I should be good enough to get my certificate. Have not been sick or to the doctor in 36 years. except for occasional cold symptoms which happens to everybody. Otherwise I believe I’m fit. Looking forward to the process. This video was very informative as I watch many to get a handle on things
@flywiththeguys Жыл бұрын
Fantastic! Good luck in your training and make sure to check the channel page. We have lots of things to help you out along the way.