FN-DA1: The BAR for NATO

[@travishabursky4362]

I love to see Ian talking about a fairly rare gun, then pulls out a similarly rare gun just for a quick comparison. Its honestly hilarious.

[@travishabursky4362]

@@Stevie-J nah man, just an old shotgun.

[@huntergoth]

Gun Jesus flaunting his BAR privilege.

[@davefellhoelter1343]

AMEN!

[@themeatpopsicle]

When you're at Morphy's, a similarly rare gun is always within arm's length :D

[@gouravduttaroy5238]

Nah Gun Jesus just spawns them for comparison.

[@Elendrian]

Just imagine what Browning could have done if he had access to Aluminum and Polymer.

[@bryangrote8781]

What we really need is a “What Would Stoner Do” BAR!

[@skrenos]

He did.

[@c1ph3rpunk]

@@skrenos comparing modern polymers and aluminum to what he had then is impossible. +1 for WWBD, What Would Browning Do.

[@dwaneanderson8039]

@@bryangrote8781 Or "What Would Browning Do" BAR.

[@masashi547]

like the HCAR

[@bulukacarlos4751]

Here (Argentina) the old soldiers say that when the FAL was adopted, FN also offered the BAR in 7.62x51. But obviously (and I think wisely) our armed forces opted for the FAP (heavy automatic rifle or FAL 50.41) which is the FAL but with a heavy barrel and bipod. Curiously, the original name of that rifle was FALO (Fusil Automatique Lourd), the problem is that in Spanish "falo" means "penis". Greetings from Patagonia Argentina.

[@DefunctYompelvert]

So they changed it from penis to FAP?

[@gohunt001-5]

Ah, so either way it has a name with a sexual connotation. Fun.

[@ottovonbearsmark8876]

So they changed the gun’s name from meaning penis in Spanish to meaning masturbate in English lol

[@devindalton4688]

What's all that about fapping your falo?

[@adambielen8996]

(Insert joke here about compensating for something)

[@milsurpmarine8628]

Back in 1983 when I was a U.S. Marine with the Multinational Peacekeeping force in Beirut, Lebanon, while on patrol one day I found an FN-DA that was in rough shape, missing parts, completely nonfunctional. I asked my commanding officer if I could bring it home with the intention of someday restoring it. My CO adamantly said “no” and ordered me to leave it with him. I suspect it now hangs over his fireplace somewhere back here in the states… damn, I wish I had that gun.

[@charlesboots6508]

Better to ask forgiveness than permission.

[@theprojectproject01]

Beirut is such a multi-axis crossroads, both geographically and ideologically, that probably at least one of every single military arm has passed through it at some point.

[@danielwilke7574]

Your first mistake was asking. It was non functional. Just trow it in your pack and act like an idiot.

[@TheHylianBatman]

John Browning really was one of the best gun designers ever, considering how long his tools have lasted.

[@corbintodd9339]

Him and kalishnakov. Wild to see weapons like AK’s and Browning M2’s still used wide spread world wide 80 and 100 year later

[@davefellhoelter1343]

Not "One of" NO! The Best! his firearms live On for EVER! He put meat on tables, fulfilled every NEED he ever Intended, and Beyond His Imagination! and well into the future! Almost every other designer owes some or all of their designs to Browning.

[@charlesboots6508]

Even Kalashnikov and Glock are playing for 2nd place.

[@johanmetreus1268]

One has to keep in mind he didn't consider himself the greatest, as well as that while a few of his constructions has proven themselves extremely well, most of them did not.

[@matthayward7889]

Man, The BAR was a good looking gun throughout its whole life. Also, love the casual “and this is a FN D”

[@AshyGr33n]

*FN Deez nuts ahuehuehuehue* I'll see myself out

[@Infernal969]

@@samholdsworth420 Oh, look, another keyboard warrior that never had to lug around 9 kgs worth of a gun for several hours a day and spouting some simplistic blabber about "dem good ol' days".

[@SupraTompan]

Just a pity It's a open bolt gun.

[@tomwilliams8675]

Heavy, because men were men at that time. They were proud to carry that through Europe

[@tomwilliams8675]

@@dirkbruere You are correct sir, I mistakenly referred to the earlier version BAR. Still both are beautiful weapons.

[@lonewolf0281]

The Belgian Army was still using the FN-DA1 as late as 1988-89. I have seen pictures of reservists using it in that timeframe.

[@exuberance3973]

I love that Ian comes in when we need him most. It’s as if he knows I just dropped the kids off and now I can gun nerd in peace lol

[@Anino_Makata]

Gun Jesus knows, man. Gun Jesus knows.

[@Arbiter099]

He had a streak for years of posting daily

[@apieceofbread1]

I always have a half hour or so when I get to work before my boss shows up and I can start working, that’s my Forgotten Weapons time (which is coincidentally right now lol)

[@davejolbitado363]

Man you are supposed to watch with your kids! My daughter is 2 and loves watching with me lol!

[@c1ph3rpunk]

@@Arbiter099 it’s funny, I got so used to my daily dose of Forgotten Weapons that when he changed his posting schedule to be less frequent I felt like part of my life was suddenly missing. For years, I woke up, made a cup of coffee and watched my daily dose of gun caffeine. I get why he made the change, the guy needs to have a life, but boy I miss my daily fix.

[@patrickseaman]

I always love it when Ian "just happens" to have another rare firearm for comparison!

[@itsconnorstime]

It always triggers me that the Americans chose to adopt the A2 variant of the BAR when almost every other country that adopted it made it better in several ways.

[@snipersl270]

Ian goes into it on one of his videos, maybe it was a Q and A. The US didn't want to spend the money on a better automatic rifle, they wanted what they had to get cheaper.

[@GammaAKF]

I mean, the FBI bought upgraded versions a la the Colt Monitor, does that count?

[@ostiariusalpha]

I've said elsewhere in this video's comments, but the Monitor variant of the BAR was far better suited to the role than the bulky A2. Just put a lightweight, discreetly folding stock on it, and you have an American FG.42 right there.

[@MR.LMR1996]

@@GammaAKF I imagine the FBI didn't buy as many as the US Army did. They probably wanted the best version of the weapon. As the US Army probably wanted the cheapest version that they could build and field in mass. Sure, whilst building guns with a similar profile to this version of the BAR maybe more mainstream and easier these days, I think pistol-gripped rifles were much more difficult to make during the early to mid 20th century in the Pre WW2 decades. Note: Chances are I'm probably talking out of my arse with all this. At best this is just a blind guess on my end.

[@SlavicCelery]

In the end, the USA went to the M240B, which is a grand rework of the BAR. So we got there eventually.

[@GunMartTV]

Thing of beauty, I used to own a semi-auto version here in the UK before the 1988 SLR ban. The gun came with not only a spare barrel, but also the sustained fire tripod. I'm not sure if people realise that the FN Model D set the pattern for the belt-fed, GPMG/MAG general purpose machine gun used by many NATO and western countries. I have seen a Danish gun re-chambered in 7.62x51, using the converted, 30-06 chamber modification. Glorious piece of kit!

[@J.DeLaPoer]

The Monitor is still my favorite BAR iteration; and I think the most versatile and useful as a practical carry weapon that still puts out some very impressive heavy firepower. This and the D are close seconds (there's very little actual difference between them). The thing is I guess that these are LMGs whereas the Monitor is really a heavy rifle, and it's much lighter and handier.

[@ostiariusalpha]

The Monitor, with a lightweight bipod attached, is what the BAR men in WWII _should_ have been issued. It was far better suited to how how the weapon was carried and used in actual combat, especially in the Pacific theater.

[@Cohac]

Isnt a fullauto 30-06 rifle waaay to powerful to shoot practically from the shoulder? Sure, if you just stick to Semi you got something pretty good, but for that there were better developments in the interwars years IMO as they didnt try to also be machineguns.

[@iterationfackshet1990]

@@Cohac the monitor solved that by slapping a huge ass compensator on the barrel to reduce recoil, by a lot. The Monitor was designed to shoot specifically from the shoulder.

[@ostiariusalpha]

@@Cohac Also, don't forget that WWII .30-06 loads were relatively mild compared to modern hunting loads; that's why you shouldn't fire modern .30-06 in any M1 Garand that has not had its gas system modified. The old rounds actually kick like 7.62x51mm, and that's not an accident, since they designed 7.62mm to perform like WWII .30-06 from a shorter case.

[@not-a-theist8251]

Imagine a monitor in 308🤤

[@daddysempaichan]

I love the running gag of Ian mentioning a gun and pulling it out from under the table. Feels very on brand.

[@hendrixdylan13]

I got to say, there’s just something about the BAR.

[@mikepette4422]

something mediocre ?

[@ostiariusalpha]

@@mikepette4422 The M1918A2 is certainly something mediocre; the basic action though is beautiful.

[@SlavicCelery]

@@ostiariusalpha Also it's the grandfather of the M240. Mediocre isn't exactly the right word. It was a firearm that needed some serious rework to make modern. Dated is probably the most accurate term.

[@ulvschmidt7174]

The fact that belt fed existed as a concept mean it was unduitable as a saw not necessarily bad per say but the 20 round mag was bad

[@americangangster1911]

@@mikepette4422 It was made in 1918, back then it was a state of the art weapon.

[@CarterG4Y]

Every time I think I've seen every BAR variant, Ian drops a new one on me - in that regard, it's similar to the Lee Enfield Also, this is just another testament to how long John Browning's designs could last on the market - the biggest example of course is the 1911, which isn't used by militaries nearly as much as it used to, but it's still big on the civilian market

[@joelfilho2625]

I think the biggest example is the M2. It went through several shifts in purpose/role, but it's still in widespread use by many militaries today.

[@DrSabot-A]

The M2 machine gun is another one of John Browning's ultimate designs. Ludicrous how a weapon that's a century years old still performs reliably and admirably againts other, more modern designs. Not big in the civillian market obviously, but it fits just well in a modern military

[@RAAM855]

Simplicity is an art that ages with grace.

[@ostiariusalpha]

@@FlymanMS It is definitely underappreciated, it also isn't John Browning's design.

[@SlavicCelery]

Also, the M240 is a reworked BAR action. Meaning the children of that design are still in use today. JMB pretty much defined most modern firearms. The sheer scale of his impact is impressive. Maxim really spent his life mainly refining and developing a single idea. JMB touched everything, pistol designs (martial and civilian), Shotguns (pump, lever, semi-auto), Machine guns (LMG, MMG, HMG, BAR), and so so many rifle designs. He basically introduced the effective pocket semi-auto. Cartridge designs that are still used today.

[@enricopaolocoronado2511]

"Effing Da One!" I can't be the only one who thought of that.

[@Jabberwockybird]

I think of that from time to time. Effin' fal, effin p90

[@turretlizardinthesun957]

Had a chance to shoot a reproduction 1918A3 (semi-auto only) in 30-06 and it was a lot of fun, but I imagine it shoots like a dream 7.62x51. I have no idea how it would be in full auto in either caliber, but my guess it would be sweet in 7.62. Another good video Ian.

[@fruitbat4429]

Cool little video on a definitely Forgotten Weapon. Really neat touch that it uses FAL magazines. Okay, nitpicking mode; the BAR was not replaced in US military service by the M60. It was replaced in the Squad Automatic Weapon role by the M14A1. But darn it was a fascinating look at the final evolution of a weapon which started life as a "Marching fire" weapon.

[@FIREBRAND38]

Speaking of nit-picking it was the Squad Automatic _Rifle_ and the initial attempt was the M15 variant of the M14 before, as you correctly say, the M14A2 was adopted.

[@fruitbat4429]

@@FIREBRAND38 Good point. :)

[@EvilvonScary]

Appreciate all your videos, like having an armourers course intro for every subject.

[@ffgonline6197]

I’m Israeli and one of my aunts shared a photo on the family WhatsApp group of my grandfather during one of his reservist training drills Directing a soldier armed with this weapon (not sure if it’s a converted 8mm or a factory model), it was used in our reserves at least until the 70’s.

[@ramonandrajo6348]

Shu, shu; get out of here.

[@Rhynome]

@@ramonandrajo6348 triggered lol

[@ramonandrajo6348]

@@Rhynome Whatever, sheep. XD

[@bluecaptainIT]

@@ramonandrajo6348 what's the problem again?

[@M50A1]

@@ramonandrajo6348 It takes a sheep to recognize another

[@marinusjansen9139]

Considering the timeframe these were being built, is there a relationship between the engineering-team that worked on this, and the FN MAG?

[@andrewquesinberry773]

See his vid on the mag 58 from a couple of days ago for a good explaination

[@jeeBisOkay]

There is in fact, check the recent video on it to see the specifics of it

[@shura0107]

At 8:42, he states the exact relationship between the FN-DA1 and the MAG-58. The MAG is, in fact, an upside down BAR action with a belt feed mechanism. Reference the aforementioned video on the MAG-58 for an in depth look at how they are related.

[@Leo3ABPgamingTV]

2:57 *subconsciously adds german accent* "... its features"

[@yanyanchan2199]

Sounds like they really raised the BAR

[@DPRK_Best_Korea]

Stop

[@scottstewart5784]

take a like you bastid

[@I_am_Signal]

How BAR-baric

[@juj9305]

@@I_am_Signal now this one makes no sense but I appreciate the effort

[@jonathans1759]

boom boom

[@MrPanzerDragoon]

Ian: let me just take out my spare BAR FND that's just laying around. lol

[@ulissedazante5748]

Just, you know, casual. Who hasn't a BAR-D lying around somewhere, this day?

[@MrPanzerDragoon]

@@ulissedazante5748 LOL

[@mattseman5682]

Always love seeing BARs. They're such a cool gun.

[@DefunctYompelvert]

The US should have kept the BAR as a squad automatic weapon upgraded to FN-DA1 specs but with M14 mags. change my mind

[@Aliyah_666]

Okay...M14 mags don't keep out dust or mud well check out the Vietnam Conflict if you don't think so. It's heavy as sin by comparison to modern Squad automatic weapon, you can carry more 5.56 then 7.62 NATO. Recoil is more manageable, ergonomics aren't total trash on modern weapons. The BAR was a revolutionary weapon in ww1....thats about it.

[@FIREBRAND38]

Since everyone carries a selective fire rifle dedicated magazine fed "squad automatic rifles" are no longer a "thing". So Squad Automatic Weapons are belt fed to do what magazine fed rifles on full auto can't do. And I don't really care if I changed your mind.

[@DefunctYompelvert]

@@FIREBRAND38 and how effective was the M14? Every soldier had what was now essentially a M1 garand with a box magazine. It was terrible on full auto and not comparable to an automatic rifle. The BAR was there and offered a cheap stop gap if properly converted. Even along side the M16 the BAR would be useful as it would offer a 7.62 weapon to say marine rifle squads which on paper was completely armed with M14s or M16s

[@wookieblaster]

I imagine a CCW permit holder going "Hey Ian check my draw on this pistol" and Ian goes "That's interesting, mortal, but I got this" *pulls out an LMG out of nowhere*. The first time it was a China Lake grenade launcher, now it's a darn infantry support weapon. I am now convinced Ian just conjures these guns out of thin air.

[@GhanyNurisAlhakim]

Visited an arms expo around two-three years ago and they had mislabeled this gun as GPMG (with FN MAG pictured on the card)

[@asdasd-ty9se]

I mean, technically they were right

[@coaxill4059]

@@asdasd-ty9se Sort of. I'd argue that in practical terms, a GPMG must have the capacity for belt fed operation. This doesn't mean a country couldn't use this as a GPMG and see moderate success. However, by definition, a GPMG has to be able to fulfil multiple roles for a machine gun: Fixed ground tripod, anti air mount, vehicle mount, infantry bipod, etc. It was the demand to reconcile these functions into one platform that necessitated the GPMG/UMG concept. I'd argue this is an LMG, in a similar class to the Bren and Madsen. With the good bipod and detachable barrel, I think it graduated from being a simple Automatic Rifle as originally designated.

[@GhanyNurisAlhakim]

@@asdasd-ty9se if the gun was upside down, I wouldn't complain

[@FIREBRAND38]

Sorry, Ian, but no less an authority than the Secretary of the Army in his 1 May 1957 announcement of the M14 specifically said that "the new rifle will eventually replace the standard M1 (Garand); the Browning automatic rifle, familiarly known since World War I as the BAR; the caliber .30 carbine; and the M3 submachine gun." The M60, of course, was to replace the M1919A6 machine gun.

[@superfamilyallosauridae6505]

I don't know what is so hard for Ian to understand about the difference in a machinegun and and automatic rifle. his video on the subject is full of falsehoods. this goes back years

[@andrewthwaaa4009]

BAR has a unique aesthetic within its design that attracts me a lot.

[@chriscoogan8090]

Always reminds me of Steve McQueen in 'Sand Pebbles'

[@danjohnston3422]

One would have to be a well-fed farm lad of 18 to carry that thing any distance. "Hey, Tubbs," says the Sgt, 'I have something special for you..."

[@ikman4006]

Please do a range video tomorrow with this gun, I would love to see that.

[@stevemanart]

When I was in the Navy the fellow who ran the "not really civilian but not technically military either" shooting range near the base had one of these and I actually used it for my automatic rifle qualifications instead of the M-60. I genuinely loved the weapon.

[@stormthrush37]

This is like some weird fusion between a BAR and the FAL.

[@lib556]

I'm a bit confused by this. With the FAL came the LAR version with heavier barrel, bipod and 30 rd magazine. It was called the C2 in Canada and the L2 in Australia. It seems odd that the manufacturer who created a lighter, newer LAR based on their new whiz bang rifle would waste any time updating an antiquated, heavy WW1 design (much as I love everything Browning). About the only advantage I can see is the quick change barrel.

[@kc9602]

"Bottom of the Channel, Sir!! Bitch tried to drown me!" Possibly best description in films of BAR.

[@chrisgabbert658]

The BAR read about in the encyclopedia in study hall in school back in the 70s . 👍😊🎯

[@SteamCrane]

1:48 - Paul Harrel's jacket pockets.

[@kevinsullivan3448]

Good designs stick around for a LOOOOONNGGG time. John Moses certainly created some good designs that are still with us today.

[@robjackson2731]

that fire control group is amazing

[@thescatologistcopromancer3936]

I was wondering why Ian was no longer posting in time for me to watch during my first break, but I remembered Arizona doesn't recognize daylight savings time

[@edm240b9]

Had a chance to fire one of these last year. Really cool BAR variant!

[@AlexLee-dc2vb]

Optimistically hoping for a range video tomorrow

[@gregbrown4009]

Another awesome firearm and presentation. Thanks!

[@ФилиппЛыков-д8е]

1:48 "Got any BAR?" - "Yes." - "How many?" - "Yes."

[@ooloncaluphid]

Your comment about the FN MAG being the BAR turned upside down and belt-fed reminds me that the Luger is kind of an upside down semiautomatic 1873 Winchester.

[@ThePatriotParadox]

The old man, the classic and the sexy and stylish BAR... Always have been one of my favorite autos out there. 308 over 30-06 anyone?!?

[@craigthescott5074]

I own a Ohio Ordinance BAR it’s a very heavy and a large rifle. Probably over kill for a 308. I like it in 3006, it’s very reliable and accurate.

[@DustyGamma]

1:47 Just casually pulling one out, nice.

[@charlesphillips4575]

One advantage of using that spacer rather than modifying the receiver is that these could have been made as conversions. Just a new barrel, that spacer and a pile of new mags and your 30-06 BAR now used 7.62mm NATO.

[@lobstersrs]

I love the looks of the BAR, they're great looking rifles in almost every iteration imo. They look a lot better when they aren't next to a person though, when you have a human to scale them against you realize what massive friggin bastards they are. A BAR or one of the Ohio ordinance new production ones was right near the top of my list until I got a chance to shoot one a bit. Not that they aren't fun and good shooters, and I still want one, but man they are beefier than hell and honestly kind of awkward. It'd be interesting to try and build a slightly downsized one in the classic style.

[@craigthescott5074]

I actually own an Ohio Ordinance semi only BAR yes it’s a big rifle and it’s kinda unwieldy but it’s very accurate and reliable. You just wouldn’t want to carry it around for very long. John Browning was simply the best weapons inventor ever. The Einstein of weapons inventors.

[@lobstersrs]

@@craigthescott5074 That's pretty much what I was saying, great firearm just not something I would want to have to carry, especially considering a full loadout for one. Also, I'm a bit of a poor and have to choose my purchases, they're not cheap as you know. Still a really fun rifle for the range though, and still on my list, just not quite as high up as it was before I got to play with one. I'm not a big dude, those are beefy rifles. And yes, JMB was a friggin genius.

[@cesarpiccirilli7528]

Hi. As usual, wonderful video from Ian. Just one question If anybody knows. What is the difference in concept and usage with the FAP (FAL with heavy Barrel). I know it does not have the Option to change the barrel but it seems to hace a similar usage in the Army. I am from Argentina and our Army bought the hole Lot FAL+FAP+MAG+Hi Power but never heard of this BAR. Thank hoy all

[@highjumpstudios2384]

This things existence baffles me. I love it.

[@matthayward7889]

Exactly my thoughts!

[@zXPeterz14]

Especially with the fn fal and mag/m240 existing at the same time as this

[@seculartapes]

The British used the Bren into the 90s, there was still a use for mag-fed suppport weapons.

[@zXPeterz14]

@@seculartapes wasnt that due to how many we had left over rather than because they were the first choice for the role

[@seculartapes]

@@zXPeterz14 Nah, it’s just a quality weapon. I would buy that argument in the 50s or 60s, but not as late as the first gulf war, Britain had procured plenty MAG-58s by then, and you still saw the Bren in service with front line units, not rear echelon or reserve units. They didn’t really phase the Bren out completely until they started getting the Minimi in quantity. EDIT: They phased the Bren out in favour of the LSW, and when that thing ended up being unsatisfactory then they went with the Minimi.

[@christopherhipes7117]

Bruce Mcarthur muzzle brake. Good chance that was one of Kent Lomont's. He loved those muzzle brakes and they work really well. In fact I was getting 2-3rd burst with our FND last weekend on a man sized steel target at 400yds with Bruce's muzzle brake

[@JBhunter452]

I came to make a comment also as to the Bruce brake, very effective.

[@Aliyah_666]

Oh it looks effective but ugly as sin on a classic like this. Mind you I'd run a muzzle brake like that if I had to use this weapon.

[@christianmuller4576]

Ian If they are just going to put a spacer and use the FAL magazine why not just use the FAL it seems like an expensive upgrade when you already have FALs you could use for the same purpose. why not modify it so it could use a belt or something larger then just 30 rounds.

[@randomfaca]

As a military, what would be the point of buying this at the time though? it looks more expensive to manufacture than the FAL. both are only useful in full auto with bipods as light machine guns. the BAR is certainly heavier too. surely a heavy barrelled FAL would be better in every single way

[@loupiscanis9449]

Thank you , Ian . 🐺

[@TroopperFoFo]

Ian you think you will ever get to do a video on the HCAR?

[@portaltwo]

Something about it, but that is simply one classically beautiful gun!

[@sealove79able]

Was it possible to mount an optical sight on the BAR? Walking fire with the BAR sure was a sight to behold.

[@craigthescott5074]

Prob not without permanently damaging the receiver with a rail or some mounting system.

[@TroopperFoFo]

Ohio ordnance works m1918a3 bar and their Hcar can have optical sights.

[@chaosXP3RT]

People say nothing in the USA is original, but John Moses Browning made some very original guns and he was very American. He was a genius!

[@JDWard-Jeepster]

I like the backwards mauser 98 rear sight and leaf.

[@not-a-theist8251]

Bar with FAL magazine is pretty awesome.

[@oldschoolgreentube]

The M60 was not a replacement for the BAR. It was a replacement for the M1917 and M1919. The M249 SAW was the replacement for the BAR.

[@Allan_aka_RocKITEman]

Great video, Ian.

[@psp1921tsmg]

I own several 30.06 fn-d’s. I can run them in 06 7mm 8mm and 308. I don’t bother with 7mm. Easy conversion if I use the spacer I came up with.

[@lonewolf0281]

Any chance you will do a video on the FN BRG-15 prototype heavy machine gun, Ian? Would love to see a video on that rare and truly forgotten weapon!

[@F4Wildcat]

"You see that? That is what we Belgians crafted to perfection. We never made any bad guns -oh euhm so what are these Liegé steyr 1886's in 8x57mm that explode in your fa.. " NEVER MADE ANY BAD GUNS

[@jasonz7788]

Awesome thanks Ian

[@corvetteguy1980]

I know a Vietnam veteran that carried a BAR in Vietnam in the late 60s

[@mrmeener625]

why did they mount the rear site backwards? On the FN FAL the sight looks almost the same but is not on backwards. the US BAR was overated real heavy could not change the barrel only 20 shot mag. the FN version was improved but still had a 20 rd mag.

[@orionakd]

Since the winner of NGSW is SIG's reinforced M4 with steel brass shells I always thought, why not use HCAR as the next generation of US Army rifle? The HCAR fires 30.06 ammunition and has proven mechanism and durability, even barrel wear problems can be solved by the BAR fnd barrel change mechanism.

[@wayneorellana2549]

BAR perfection! Maybe someone should mention to Brownell's that a run of these in the semi-automatic would be great for the civilian market....

[@wyomins]

Would love a miniaturized version of this in 5.56, 7.62x39, or even 300 BLK.

[@drummaghua2687]

Imagine an alternative timeline where FN made a further improved BAR instead of FAL

[@samuelmendoza9356]

Outright impossible. With the likes of ZB 26, BREN and MAS 40/44/49 showing they can make a tilting bolt locked mechanisms which was mechanically simpler as well as to make. BAR got this linkage that involves three pivot pins. The tilting bolt I mentioned earlier needs up to 2 pivot points. Way simpler than BRowning's design.

[@rotwang2000]

@@samuelmendoza9356 Yeah, Browning was a genius, but he was really entering a whole new world of design parameters and the BAR while functional when it was introduced was still more old school than revolutionary. But at the same time he was the shoulders other stood on for their successful designs.

[@jasonmaloney7352]

Does the 8mm Mauser and 30.06 use the same magazines? Ik the 8 is 7.92x57? I believe vs 7.62x63 for 06?

[@keegenke]

Have you ever considered doing a video about mechanical rate reducers like those seen in the BAR and other firearms?

[@docrosas]

Interesting video, so FN manufactured the BAR and the heavy barreled FAL in the same period for the same market!!! Kinda odd!!

[@austinhughes1924]

The BAR is the one gun.That just keeps getting more awesome.

[@GR46404]

I apologize, but I can't seem to focus today. Did Ian mention if this version of the FN-D had the interesting fire rate adjustment mechanism of the original? If he did, I wasn't listening when he said it.

[@AndrzejzZamościa]

whether the progenitor of this project was the 7.92mm wz. 28 "Browning" ??

[@Semmel2k]

One thing I always wondered: If I understand it correctly, the BAR is somewhat of a Squad automatic Weapon Typ of Gun, I mean it's the machinegun role in a squad, without getting hung up on technicalities. However, what I was always wondering, wasn't the 20 Round magazine always a major drawback when it comes to sustained fire, cover fire, supression fire etc.? I mean 20 rounds go by pretty quickly...

[@NRH111]

In 1918 it was developed for "walking fire" a suicidal tactic really consisting of the soldier going over the top and firing from the hip to suppress at a walking speed

[@maverickpaladin4155]

Huh...never got the notification for this video. So what does it mean to be a pre-86 dealer sample as opposed to a pre-86 production gun?

[@comiketiger]

Great video once again.

[@davidjrule66]

I like M60, over all the other GPMG i used. as a Infantry section weapon.

[@on2wheels378]

I fired the Bren in 7.62NATO as a young US Army paratrooper in the old NATO military of the 80s.. Familiarization training with the Brits.

[@1337w0n]

I just made an image macro of the classic BAR joke, so I find this amazing.

[@christopherwang4392]

6:28 to 6:48 I'm curious about that muzzle device. What model is it and who manufactures it? Besides the standard thread cover or conical flash hider, what other kinds of muzzle devices are compatible with the FN D / DA1 BAR?

[@bravo_cj]

The MAG's magazine-fed brother lol

[@jasonnysacleomedes5084]

I saw a previous videos of yours on the scout rifle. What would be your take in modernizing the concept using a semi automatic rifle? Specifically what rifle would you recommend that is under 6.6 lbs and could have both iron sights and optics placed on it in .308?

[@minkshenanigans]

I can't help but think the FAL was just a closed bolt BAR given that it was designed by the same designer at FN who made the changes to the BAR, I'm surprised I never hear people mention the BAR as part of the development of the FAL

[@ScottKenny1978]

BAR doesn't use a tilting bolt, does it?

[@MrCyphermonkey]

That muzzle brake! What where they thinking.

[@erich623]

Your best BAR video, bar none.

[@mohammedcohen]

...y'all GOTTA READ Nathan Gorenstein's excellent book "The Guns of John Moses Browning"!!! ...and our host here gets 'mentioned in dispatches'...

[@calvingreene90]

I always thought that the BAR would be improved by putting the action on its side to facilitate magazine changes while shooting on the bipod.

[@ostiariusalpha]

Sure, but you can improve it even more by turning it all the way upside down and attaching a belt fed mechanism to it. Which is what FNH actually did.

[@calvingreene90]

@@ostiariusalpha I didn't say otherwise but give me a hacksaw, a board, and a few hose clamps and a few hours later I would have achieved my modifications.

[@marinusjansen9139]

It got improved by turning it upside down, make it belt-fed and call it the FN MAG :-)

[@calvingreene90]

@@marinusjansen9139 But I could have done it in the trenches of WWI. One improvement does not preclude others and mine are easy to put on existing guns.

[@ostiariusalpha]

@@calvingreene90 Or, and I'm just spitballing here, maybe just rotate the BAR sideways when you change mags; which you can already do.

[@ulissedazante5748]

Who has not a casual FN-BAR D sitting under the table?

[@breembo]

Built one of these from a demilled parts kit. Soooo heavy.

[@codymansfield7358]

You forgot about the Swede bar in 6.5x55. Which is probably the most controllable.

[@AKS-74U]

Bruh a BAR in 7x57 Mauser would absolutely fuck

[@imissyoujimmy]

Has Ian ever covered how the BAR mechanically switches between fast and slow fire? Id imagine it'd work like the old CZ Scorpion where it pauses the travel of the bolt when in slow mode

[@AndrewAMartin]

He showed it in the FN D video, there's a clockwork mechanism in the trigger group.

[@imissyoujimmy]

@@AndrewAMartin thanks buddy. Going check it out