FN SCAR 17S - MK17 Early Issues - PART 2

[@medicchester]

You're probably the only one who knows this rifle thoroughly. New things I learned here, I was in the Army 2009-2012.

[@seths-bullitt]

Great series definitely didn't realize the lower on scar 17 was polymer.

[@jimclark6883]

You need to remake this video as Handl Defense is having lots of issues and may no longer be in business. Also, you missed one of the most essential add on attachments - such as KBA Custom SCAR 17S Muzzle Shoulder Ring $32.00 that fits at the end of the barrel to be able to fit on other manufactures Muzzle Brakes and Flash Hiders. Needed it to fit on my OSS Suppressor. Keep up your excellent reviews Chris and passing on of knowledge to us! You are much appreciated...

[@LoserJJA79]

Great video. Very in-depth. Recently bought a SCAR-17. Love that there's so many after-market accessories but for my needs I am fine keeping it stock. Just threw a Trijicon VCOG 1-6 and Magpul AFG-2 on it. Thanks for the videos.

[@maradona8623]

Totally agree

[@JohnZ556]

Yep, the new NRCH version w/ LPVO and VFG/AFG suppressed seems to be a good way to go. Battle rifle fire power, close to DMR accuracy, lightweight and compact like an intermediate caliber are the features of SCAR17. I don't understand why some people just dump money to make it into an expensive pig(other than competition).

[@hansstrouf]

In July 2004, in a full and open competition, nine vendors submitted twelve different designs for the three new weapon systems. Unlike the competition, FN delivered a new weapon built to the operator’s requirements-not adapted to them. The FN SCAR® submission passed all of the GO/NO-GO criteria and was unanimously chosen by the selection board composed of senior SOF operators representing every selection component. In November of the same year, FN was awarded the full FN SCAR® contract for both 5.56mm and 7.62mm rifles, along with the 40mm Enhanced Grenade Launcher Module (EGLM). Developmental testing by FN designers, engineers and operators from various branches of the U.S. Military to evaluate the new weapons’ endurance, reliability and accuracy was conducted from August 2005 through January 2006. Four Early User Assessments were also conducted prior to, during and after the developmental testing process to integrate operator feedback into the final FN SCAR® design.

[@petersouthernboy6327]

Everybody wants 7.62 or 6.5 Creedmoor. Until you have to carry it. With 180 rounds. Up and down mountains. In Afghanistan. With a two pound Elcan.

[@BattlesuitExcalibur]

Severely underrated comment. Ounces equal pounds, pounds equals pain.

[@MGB-learning]

Outstanding video . I love both of my Scar 16 and 17. I will look into replacing the lower on the 17 to address magazine issues of cost, availability and durability.

[@cobravenom39]

@SmallArmsSolutions Chris, I have to say you've REALLY been listening to the feedback from your viewers. I've unsubscribed to just about every other gun channel after seeing your content over the last month. You're doing in depth reviews of what the people want. Exotics like the SCAR and going over some of the more popular clone rifles. I think the gun world under appreciates your knowledge of so many different platforms. Thanks for doing this so I can watch these after my wife falls asleep, lol.

[@MrSaturn7085]

12:15 the KDG stock is not a copy, just an ACR stock with an adapter. The screw thread deformation issue you refer to occurs on the factory stock, as well (and it doesn't take long to see it). The issue is the thin Aluminum threaded trunnion that FN used at the rear of the rifle. A cheap and easy fix to strengthen it is just Heli-coil the threads on the 4 side screw holes (of the trunnion, not receiver). The screws won't actually break and cause a failure regardless, but this will fix the cosmetic issue of having tilted screw heads.

[@MrSmith-zy2bp]

If I ever want to know about a firearm, simply watch SAS. Always thought the SCAR started out as a 7.62 Nato rifle then scaled down to 5.56. Now I know better and the SCAR started out as a 5.56.

[@karimkhan7140]

This is a great review. It helped me to make the decision to buy one. Too bad that Handl Defense is out of business.

[@irafowlerjr.7492]

Thanks, really enjoyed and helpful.

[@user-jv4ic8rh4d]

Absolutely amazing gun!! You just need to replace...the lower, the hand guard, the trigger, the rear stock, the safety selector, the gas ports, oh, and charging handle. Oh aaand the magazines. But other then those (gulp) few things, it's great!! 😂😂 Just buy the upper and barrel throw the rest out. Here I the the KAC 110 was outrageous. To have a SCAR 17 up and running right it's only gonna cost $30,000 and a lot of gun smithing. Or you can just buy a 110 and skip the smithing?

[@victorwilliams5131]

Good job, I just picked up one with a Nighforce SHV 5x20x56

[@skepticalskeksis221]

Personally I’ve have 2 malfunctions with the FN 20 round mags. Both were double feeds on the second round. Zero issues with the ten round mags. SCAR 20S around 550 rounds as of now.

[@ridnthawave708]

I know its an older video, but, here in 2022, been debating on purchasing either the scar 17 or waiting forever for an LMT 308. Binged watched a ton of videos on this scar here in the past week and was almost sold on it, plus, it's available. I did not know they initially built this 17 out of the 16. Initial cost and all that you must consider to buy aftermarket to help make it better in those weaker areas, i don't think so. Too much add ons to make it better. Thank you so very much for the video. I learned many things.

[@Jacob-vc1lj]

I’m gonna keep it straight. Right now for the money you spend and the quality of rifle you get you’re probably better off going for the lmt. It can do anything the scar can do and then a little for similar price. That being said I absolutely love the scar platform and if I had the money to choose I’d pick it up. It’s a different platform from your normal ar-15/ar-10 and has some advantages and disadvantages, and most of all it just looks kickass. I’m not one to tell you how to spend your money, but that’s just how I look at it.

[@ridnthawave708]

@@Jacob-vc1lj Thanks for the reply! Yeah, that seems to be the consensus most times I read anything on comparisons between the scar and an AR-10. A lot of "pros" on leaning towards the scar, is it looks. Another idea that I came up with this week while considering both the LMT and Scar, is the availability for parts. If it has been this long of a wait for the rifle itself, could you imagine if you need a certain part? How long will it take to find and replace something major? I don't know if the scar is same way, but, you never know. Anyways. Thanks for your comment....

[@Robespierres_Ghost]

Seems like going with a good AR in 308 will get you a better rifle for a fraction of the cost.

[@daviddavidson9923]

Thank you for sharing your knowledge!

[@aknation4418]

Why would I pay 4000$ for a rifle not user ready from the factory??

[@micTaconator]

Who pus that much for a scar? MSRP is 3,400.

[@seikatsu4life]

Protip if you underhand that charging handle ala 240 or 249 you won't scrape anything without needing to upgrade to another charging handle

[@elitetrader5468]

Why did Handl defense go bankrupt?

[@garin8726]

We’re can you buy the handle lower they don’t seem to be in business anymore...

[@yawenclaudio5756]

Would you do a video about the SSR variant? The FN SCAR 20?

[@SmallArmsSolutions]

Yawen & Stuff if I can get my hands on one

[@SmallArmsSolutions]

PYRO BALLISTA I have had no issues but to be honest the rifle only has around 1k rounds so hardly been used.

[@maybeyournextdoorneighbor]

Damn I was thinking about building my own scar from scratch until I started seeing all these videos on how they break themselves over time... hmm. I still might make one regardless lol

[@Electrikskullz]

Chris - how about the .308 Acog with a GDI Mount?

[@rottbot3361]

How did you go from lauding the durability of the FN mags in Part 1 to pointing out how weak and fragile they are in Part 2?

[@SmallArmsSolutions]

Part 2 discusses enhancements. Part 1 was the gun as is.

[@davispinner6642]

What would be the advantage of a long stroke vs short stroke piston?

[@kingeb1647]

I'm a bit confused on the mags. Will this mag fit the 17s? Magpul PMAG 20 DPMS LR308/SR-25 Magazine, 20 Rounds, Gen M3, Black

[@NYPATRIOTBX]

You need one of the aftermarket aluminum lowers that accepts sr-25 pattern mags. Handl defense from what I’ve learned is no longer in business, but Stryker enterprise and lingle industries are still making lower receivers for the 17.

[@raulflores7765]

I just bought a brand new Scar17s and still have the stock lower receiver. Would I be able to use a Scar17 pro mag without damaging the rifle or the bolt? Would I have any issues when firing with a pro mag like multiple stoppages or failure to feeds?

[@heyzoos-cgr9369]

First! Good to see you back Chris and uploading your older content (again) Peace

[@SmallArmsSolutions]

Our channel was taken down in April. I appealed but they held the termination on no grounds. Part of the youtube purge -Heather

[@davidcunninghamjr6871]

What about the new AK lower from Handi for the Scar 17s?

[@MADZULU27]

Hi Chris I've been trying to contact Handle Defense about the mod2 lower for the SCAR 17S. I can't get through to their website. Any ideas on how I can find the lower you have in this video?

[@The-Tech-Man]

It looks like you have to go to thenfagunshop .com that's what I've been able go find according to handl fb

[@ShojoBakunyu]

I'm noticing a HUGE difference between this video where you present information (including dates) and work arounds that most videos that exist to smack talk this firearm seem to have "Accidentally" neglected to provide. 🙄

[@justobservenow3480]

Do you like the NRCH? Or do you think it weakens it compared to the older design?

[@phillipcraddock2578]

Is that lower still available

[@NYPATRIOTBX]

Handl defense is out of business, but Stryker enterprise and Lingle industries make aluminum lowers.

[@buddy9577]

ITS 100% RELIABLE AS IT IS. AWSOME RIFLE. BEST 308 ON THE MARKET.

[@sethlance8009]

Didn't sound like it lol. It had wayyy to many problems

[@chasejohnson1122]

All these problems are old or bullshit

[@tgworks5791]

Have a new 17s most of these issues are resolved. I’ve had one feeding error in 2000+ rounds. Only upgrade i have is the trigger and grip. Many of these things aren’t issues so much as they are improvements.

[@Airplanetyson]

@@sethlance8009 lol the only issue that scar has that’s valid is the stock being fragile. But name one firearm that doesn’t have it short comings

[@jawknee2]

Trijicon said their acogs will hold up to the abuse of the scar. The KDG stock pulled my back plate away from the receiver after as little as 60 rounds. 20 of those suppressed.

[@7RichardTran]

I'd recommend a 1.35mm gas jet screw and a rubber buffer sold by high desert dog.

[@mcguireskaratetheartofsurv1942]

Everyone say a cog will handle it with no problems, I never heard this many problems after 30 reviews most cons are breaking cheap scopes ,the price , nothing else really ,he's usually right on point ,

[@stevencraig9090]

Where is best place to find after market stock

[@SmallArmsSolutions]

Kinetic Development Company

[@Airplanetyson]

Don’t get a metal one. They can cause wear on the lower.

[@a.c.2499]

So when are you gonna reupload history and development of the M4 part 2?

[@SmallArmsSolutions]

I have it on my list. But if you want to watch it immediately it is available on our full30 channel -Heather

[@112233or1]

LOOKS LIKE SOCOM MISSED ALL THESE FLAWS CRAZY TO IMAGINE YOU ARE A VERY SMART MAN VERY THIS GUN SHOULD JUST BE TRASHED, EVERYTHING ABOUT THE GUN IS A FLAW

[@daviddavidson9923]

TAKE YOUR MEDS

[@Airplanetyson]

The socom 16?

[@kyler71]

Has anyone ever noticed the erie similarities between Chris Bartocci and Bill Geissele? Seriously play a video by Chris and one by bill at the same time. I think they were separated at birth.

[@jdessell]

Overpriced rifle with obvious shortcomings. $3,200 for the base rifle that eats optics, weak magazines and requires at least another thousand dollars to bring it up to par. No thanks.

[@hansstrouf]

Le prix de FN Scar est de 2400 $ pour un fusil, si vous achetez 10 000, le prix est de 1 000 $, le Scar est fabriqué avec le meilleur polymère et acier du monde. Vous avez comparé des pommes et des oranges, si vous utilisez un système optique de mauvaise qualité. FN n'est pas responsable? FN ne fabrique pas d'optique, toutes les armées que nous avons achetées à la Scar sont satisfaites de ce grand fusil, les Belges ont remporté toutes les compétitions OTAN (US, Allemagne) question prix La Belgique vous achète la F 35 qui est très chère et pose beaucoup de problèmes, Avant que la Belgique vous en achète 160, F16, la cicatrice civile est chère mais elle est de qualité militaire sauf la Full Auto, rien de comparable avec la DSA qui fabrique des clones de l'ancienne FN Fal de très mauvaise qualité, Socom responsable du sabotage de la cicatrice pour avoir l'allemand voitures de luxe. Le HK n’a même pas été retenu dans la sélection et devient miraculeusement le choix des États-Unis,

[@googanuify]

From the dozens of videos I’ve watched I’ve seen nothing but positive results. I’m seriously thinking of buying one. Yes, there are a few things about the Scar which could use upgrading but I will say the same about my AR. I think a Geissele trigger is all I might need.

[@buddy9577]

MINE HAS BEEN FLAWLESS. BEST RIFLE I OWN. BEATS THE HELL OUT OF ANY AR.

[@tash6638]

If you can’t afford it, accept that and move on. No one needs to hear you reassuring yourself that you don’t need one.

[@Airplanetyson]

The only upgrade needed is a trigger replacement which I do in everything from my Sigs to AKs. People point out flaws that don’t even own one smh

[@peyok476]

us fn scar is TOY.sale for old kid who just love shooting like video games.no wonder the taliban LOL.about this toy. us shooter should buy indonesian SS 2.the rifle that can kill

[@Airplanetyson]

English please…