Focal Performance 165AS 4K (FNS)

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Fred & Sound

Fred & Sound

Күн бұрын

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@Shaynabic
@Shaynabic 4 жыл бұрын
I have these - love them ! Vocals sound crystal clear.
@frednsound
@frednsound 4 жыл бұрын
Nice, thanks for watching
@QuangLe-tj4ix
@QuangLe-tj4ix 6 ай бұрын
165ac or 165AS best for my Tesla model S 2020? Thanks.
@mndlessdrwer
@mndlessdrwer 3 жыл бұрын
These seem fairly bright, which makes them sound exceptionally clear. They'd probably need a subwoofer to fill in their bass, as they sound a bit anemic compared to other sets.
@brandon_i6689
@brandon_i6689 Ай бұрын
Hey Fred would jl c2-650, morel ultra tempo , or these be better
@frednsound
@frednsound Ай бұрын
Hi Brandon, Tempo ultra will be better, just dont expect deep bass from any of these. Thanks for watching
@marauder0284
@marauder0284 5 жыл бұрын
Hey fred would you recommend these over morel tempo ultra 602's.
@frednsound
@frednsound 5 жыл бұрын
marauder0284 hi, oh no.. tempo ultra are way better, thanks for watching
@stevendphoto
@stevendphoto 5 жыл бұрын
It really depends on the Amp you are planning to use. The Morels have lower Sensitivity and seem to require MORE power, so if you are looking for which speaker would work better with your stock (OEM) Amp set up, the Focals are more efficient and require less power.
@imayhaveadhd
@imayhaveadhd 4 жыл бұрын
What about the crescendo un 65s?
@drummonkeystuffuk1875
@drummonkeystuffuk1875 4 жыл бұрын
@@frednsound would these out perform a set of mille 1650.3's? As another youtube seems think they will lol
@GuitarTherapy144
@GuitarTherapy144 Жыл бұрын
hi fred. ive been watching alot of your videos in the last 4-5 weeks. you have made a new steg fan. would you recommend these speakers and/or the AS3 3 way system from this range paired with a sub ofc? or are these speakers just a marketing game? i am no crazy volume madman, i like clarity and "pure" sound. i record guitar with high end audi equipement. i can EQ the system quite well...and i will do a FULL sound insulation the correct way, door, floor, trunk, engine..everything exept the front. but the speakers...what speakers for a "midrage audiphile without breaking the bank", i saw a video of you where you absolutely disliked the audison prima 165 speakers. you said there is much better than that for the same price. what if i start on these focals? are they bad? im sorry to have put so many questions in one youtube comment. i hope to get a reply from you. i would also like to donate to you some audio equipement for you to properly review speakers. i can also go steg...i know you would recommend them. but what series without getting too crazy on price? a car can never become a studio...i wish you all the best! :) Car: 7 seater vw touran.
@frednsound
@frednsound Жыл бұрын
Hi mate, you can start with the STEG MLG65C, great value. Thanks for watching
@mozartMRA
@mozartMRA 3 ай бұрын
Hello, I want to add a DSP to this Focal Set, Can you recommend what size of cap should I use to protect the tweeters? Thanks
@frednsound
@frednsound 3 ай бұрын
@@mozartMRA hi, you can use 1.5UF/250. Thanks for watching
@kivanc18
@kivanc18 4 жыл бұрын
Hello what do you think ? this 165 as active good ? or passive good sound quality ?
@frednsound
@frednsound 4 жыл бұрын
Hi, this set is very cold sounding, active sounds always better then passive, thanks for watching
@Bskdz61
@Bskdz61 5 жыл бұрын
Do you recommend this product? Is 60w rms enough?
@frednsound
@frednsound 5 жыл бұрын
Ceyhun hi, you can get much better for the$, clean 60rms can work fine, Thanks for watching
@Bskdz61
@Bskdz61 5 жыл бұрын
@@frednsound thank you.
@frednsound
@frednsound 5 жыл бұрын
Ceyhun welcome mate,
@stevendphoto
@stevendphoto 5 жыл бұрын
60W is plenty for these as they have a "6" watt minimum! I'm powering mine from a stock Honda head unit/amp which has somewhere between 35-50wpc and they absolutely CRANK!
@robertwilliam1538
@robertwilliam1538 3 жыл бұрын
Hi fred, awesome video. I was wondering how does these compare to the flax series ?
@frednsound
@frednsound 3 жыл бұрын
Hi mate, thanks for the support, the FLAX series is high and day better, thanks for watching
@sannanahmad
@sannanahmad 3 жыл бұрын
What are your remarks about hertz cento ck165 ?
@frednsound
@frednsound 3 жыл бұрын
Hi, they are ok, nothing special, but better then these AS series, thanks for watching
@sannanahmad
@sannanahmad 3 жыл бұрын
@@frednsound so what would you recommend for the best bass and great sound for civic without amplifier use
@frednsound
@frednsound 3 жыл бұрын
@@sannanahmad hi, steg SQL650c, thanks
@lazutchik1999
@lazutchik1999 8 ай бұрын
Hi Fred, who is better focal 165as or focal ps165v1?
@frednsound
@frednsound 8 ай бұрын
Hi mate, ps. Thanks for watching
@hanismuhd
@hanismuhd Ай бұрын
between this focal access 165as compared hertz mille pro mpx, which one u prefer will more clearly crispy sound 🤔
@frednsound
@frednsound Ай бұрын
@@hanismuhd access has more details. Mille is better. Thanks for watching
@infidel24
@infidel24 5 жыл бұрын
Impressive, I need a new set of tweeters. Would you recommend these tweeters?
@frednsound
@frednsound 5 жыл бұрын
don198769 hi, oh no.. they are harsh tweeters, get SQ25 amazing tweeters, thanks for watching
@infidel24
@infidel24 5 жыл бұрын
@@frednsound I need something more cost efficient that will sound good. Unfortunately the Steg lineup is out of my price range.
@frednsound
@frednsound 5 жыл бұрын
@@infidel24 soon will lunch new line from steg with affordable price, will name sql650c, thanks
@infidel24
@infidel24 5 жыл бұрын
@@frednsound thank you for the info
@frednsound
@frednsound 5 жыл бұрын
don198769 welcome mate
@cashualplayer1275
@cashualplayer1275 5 жыл бұрын
Sounds good. What amplifier di you use on that setup?
@frednsound
@frednsound 5 жыл бұрын
hi, K2.01, thanks for watching
@sktfan3843
@sktfan3843 2 жыл бұрын
I have this in my ford falcon replacing my 1yr old Alpine and it is sound amazing so i decided to bought another pair for my Kia Sportage and the PS165 V1 for my 7 seaters SUV.
@frednsound
@frednsound 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing and watching 🎶
@gsamsue1848
@gsamsue1848 5 жыл бұрын
Is worth to buy??
@frednsound
@frednsound 5 жыл бұрын
G Samsue waste of$.. harsh tweeters thin sound, for that price RE audio, cdt AudioSystem, steg performance is better, thanks for watching
@sannanahmad
@sannanahmad 3 жыл бұрын
Are they good in bass as compared to original honda civic speaker ?
@frednsound
@frednsound 3 жыл бұрын
Hi, no, they are lacking of bass, Thanks for watching
@sannanahmad
@sannanahmad 3 жыл бұрын
@@frednsound are hertz cpk 165 better?
@frednsound
@frednsound 3 жыл бұрын
@@sannanahmad hi, slightly better yes, thanks
@sannanahmad
@sannanahmad 3 жыл бұрын
What are your remarks about jl audio c1 165
@frednsound
@frednsound 3 жыл бұрын
@@sannanahmad a regular set, nothing special
@0827akiyan
@0827akiyan 5 жыл бұрын
very very great sound‼️
@frednsound
@frednsound 5 жыл бұрын
0827akiyan thanks for watching
@jalatecompa
@jalatecompa 2 жыл бұрын
hi I'm a heavy metal addict and I like to listen very loud!!! what speakers do you suggest to install in a jeep Cherokee? I already have a 12 inch 1000w sw
@frednsound
@frednsound 2 жыл бұрын
Hi, loud is good but should be clear, get the ME650CII, Thanks for watching
@rohithmathew9014
@rohithmathew9014 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Fred do you think Focal performance 165 AS 3, 3 way speakers will be a good option to go with than the Morel tempo ultra 602 which is a 2 way speaker?
@frednsound
@frednsound 3 жыл бұрын
Hi mate, no, maybe the upper class of focal will be better, these AS series are too bright and lacking bass, the ultra will sound more natural compared to these, thanks for watching
@automech01
@automech01 3 жыл бұрын
How do they compare to the Morel Maximus 602 ?
@frednsound
@frednsound 3 жыл бұрын
Hi, the Morel will be warmer, this set will have more details, thanks for watching
@underwatercactus
@underwatercactus Жыл бұрын
Im about to install the 165AC and 165AS by the next few months. Im just curious, if i search it in the web they say that Focals are proudly made in france,but what we got is made in china?any info about i it? Thanks.
@frednsound
@frednsound Жыл бұрын
Hi, only few models are made in France, all other models are China made. Thanks for watching
@underwatercactus
@underwatercactus Жыл бұрын
@@frednsound thank you so much this😊
@frednsound
@frednsound Жыл бұрын
@@underwatercactus welcome mate :)
@tglriggers4257
@tglriggers4257 9 ай бұрын
@underwatercactus How did you find the 165AC in the end ?
@underwatercactus
@underwatercactus 8 ай бұрын
@tglriggers4257 i ordered both in Amazon UK. already installed mine,sounds great but maybe in the few months I will install DSP also.
@chilotefigueroa7891
@chilotefigueroa7891 2 жыл бұрын
Yo lo tengo en mi auto con insonorización en las puertas, acompañado de un subwoofer focal auditor rsb300 en cajón sellado y alimentados por un taramps ts400x4 al set y un bass 400 también de taramps y suena genial.
@frednsound
@frednsound 2 жыл бұрын
Sounds great, thanks for sharing & watching
@antreaschristou7804
@antreaschristou7804 3 жыл бұрын
For an audi tt 2009 are they good ? Bass???
@frednsound
@frednsound 3 жыл бұрын
Hi, no, no good bass in this series, thanks for watching
@jLu624
@jLu624 3 жыл бұрын
Got these and noticed they are too harsh. Do you recommend replacing the tweeters or replacing the whole speaker? What should I replace them to?
@frednsound
@frednsound 3 жыл бұрын
Hi, yeah.. as mentioned many time, It’s harsh and cold sounding, Better will be STEG SQL650C or lower morel tempo ultra, thanks for watching
@eduardobatista329
@eduardobatista329 4 жыл бұрын
All the name brands you mentioned are excellent
@frednsound
@frednsound 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching
@josephdavis4872
@josephdavis4872 2 жыл бұрын
What is the best sounding speaker brand? Focal or JBL's I'm debating witch ones is better.
@frednsound
@frednsound 2 жыл бұрын
Hi, between these 2 brands the Focal is better, thanks for watching
@Bskdz61
@Bskdz61 Жыл бұрын
STEG ST650C or Focal Access 165AS. Which one is better ?
@frednsound
@frednsound Жыл бұрын
Hi, sure the ST.. thanks for watching
@kurttevan
@kurttevan 2 жыл бұрын
This or morel maximo ultra?
@frednsound
@frednsound 2 жыл бұрын
Maximo ultra, thanks for watching
@TMCHL
@TMCHL 3 ай бұрын
Hi Fred I have Match M5.4 Dsp Amp 60W RMS currently using Vibe 90W RMS 94db sens. Components Looking for a better quality quality set what would you recommend to me ? Thanks
@frednsound
@frednsound 3 ай бұрын
@@TMCHL Hi, get the sg650c. Thanks for watching
@denniskeller69
@denniskeller69 2 жыл бұрын
Incredible
@frednsound
@frednsound 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching
@npr678
@npr678 3 жыл бұрын
How is Mercury R62 component speakers?
@frednsound
@frednsound 3 жыл бұрын
hi, ok.. nothing special, thanks for watching
@luckgod1857
@luckgod1857 3 жыл бұрын
can they be connected to the radio itself? do i need an amplifier?
@frednsound
@frednsound 3 жыл бұрын
hi, yes, you need an aftermarket amplifier, thanks for watching
@QuangLe-tj4ix
@QuangLe-tj4ix 6 ай бұрын
Hi Fred, 165ac or 165AS best for my Tesla model S 2020? Thanks. Or if you can recommend an Amp and speakers combo from Focal?
@frednsound
@frednsound 6 ай бұрын
Hi, AS is better, will work fine with FPX 4.800. Thanks for watching
@MarkBradbury-o5j
@MarkBradbury-o5j 28 күн бұрын
I had a set of these in my Pajero... the mid-woofer is good. The tweeters were horrible ! I replaced the tweeters with some mtx 28mm soft dome which are way nicer. Anyone who already has a set, just upgrade the tweeter to something nicer and they will be more pleasant
@frednsound
@frednsound 28 күн бұрын
@@MarkBradbury-o5j yeah, tweeters are too harsh, midbass is lacking bass as well. Thanks for watching
@ahambhramasmii
@ahambhramasmii 4 жыл бұрын
165 as or infinity reference 6530 or polk ?
@frednsound
@frednsound 4 жыл бұрын
Hi, 165as, thanks for watching
@ahambhramasmii
@ahambhramasmii 4 жыл бұрын
@@frednsound And what do you suggest on back doors? Same speakers or co axial? Tell me the model Which amp will be good ?
@frednsound
@frednsound 4 жыл бұрын
@@ahambhramasmii hi, for rear fill, coax will do the job, but yet you can use component as well, AudioSystem Italy f4d-400 amazing amp, thanks
@ahambhramasmii
@ahambhramasmii 4 жыл бұрын
@@frednsound Thanks man Just last one question If i keep 165 as 4 doors how will be bass? Front 2 doors 16as and back coaxial speakers how will the bass? Which sounds better
@frednsound
@frednsound 4 жыл бұрын
@@ahambhramasmii this kit doesn’t have a good bass respond, it was better then your other selection speakers, for this type of speakers you have to add a subwoofer, thanks
@magedsamer183
@magedsamer183 4 жыл бұрын
Hi sir which speakers component system would you recommend Focal Performance 165AS3 vs JBL Stadium GTO600C with GTO 20M to upgrade it to 3-way. Both of them fall in the same price range.
@frednsound
@frednsound 4 жыл бұрын
Hi, JBL will be better, thanks for watching
@irvingsc7414
@irvingsc7414 5 жыл бұрын
Tengo un ampli da 120 rms me recomiendas este set???
@frednsound
@frednsound 5 жыл бұрын
Irving Saldaña hi, your amp will power them, thanks for watching
@dannyyanez9320
@dannyyanez9320 4 жыл бұрын
What speakers would you recommend for Jeep Wrangler? Would these work?
@frednsound
@frednsound 4 жыл бұрын
If your size is 6.5, then get the MT650CII, powerful and great sound quality stage, thanks for watching
@DaveDaHunt3R
@DaveDaHunt3R 8 ай бұрын
wich is better, this or Ground Zero GZTK 165 ? i'm about to buy a new set of front speakers for my car (wich has stock and destroyed once) and i'm bouncing between focal, hertz and ground zero. don't need competition stuff, but i don't want to install 20\30€ kenwood\jbl one and change them next month.
@frednsound
@frednsound 8 ай бұрын
Hi, the focal is better. Thanks for watching
@DaveDaHunt3R
@DaveDaHunt3R 8 ай бұрын
@@frednsound oh.. ok thanks!
@frednsound
@frednsound 8 ай бұрын
@@DaveDaHunt3R welcome 🎼
@DanielWLarkin16
@DanielWLarkin16 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Fred, I’m currently debating between these focals, morel maximo ultra 602 mkII, and audiofrog g60s. Out of those 3 which ones would you prefer?
@frednsound
@frednsound 3 жыл бұрын
Hi mate, the Maximo ultra will sound more natural, thanks for watching
@DanielWLarkin16
@DanielWLarkin16 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you, and anytime!!
@frednsound
@frednsound 3 жыл бұрын
@@DanielWLarkin16 ;)
@shashankbhasin238
@shashankbhasin238 4 жыл бұрын
hi fred . do they sound better than JL C2 650x? im confused between JLC2 650x components and focal as165. I want crystal clear mids and tweeters . loudness is not a priority only want clearity .
@frednsound
@frednsound 4 жыл бұрын
Hi mate, both are not warm sets, the thing is, the focal sound ok at low volume, when you raise the volume, it’s starts to be too bright, the JL is more stable, thanks for watching
@shashankbhasin238
@shashankbhasin238 4 жыл бұрын
Fred & Sound Sir is Pioneer Z65Ch better than both of these?
@shashankbhasin238
@shashankbhasin238 4 жыл бұрын
?
@shashankbhasin238
@shashankbhasin238 4 жыл бұрын
please reply help me
@frednsound
@frednsound 3 жыл бұрын
@@shashankbhasin238 sorry but I’ve just got your message, KZbin doesn’t provide all messages, just random, pioneer will be the same level as the JL, thanks
@rafaelrosas2918
@rafaelrosas2918 5 жыл бұрын
What comoonents u recommend for audi car
@frednsound
@frednsound 5 жыл бұрын
Rafael Rosas hi, STEG ME650C, thanks for watching
@nsbhatia9310
@nsbhatia9310 5 жыл бұрын
Pls recommend component under 200 USD with good bass and clear vocals, don't like too bright tweeters
@frednsound
@frednsound 5 жыл бұрын
N S Bhatia hi, STEG LEO650C, thanks for watching
@victorvaldes754
@victorvaldes754 4 жыл бұрын
Hi, im looking at the 3 way set, just as entry level, budget friendly, planning to change the tweeters for some hertz or audison would you recommend the midbass and midrange?
@frednsound
@frednsound 4 жыл бұрын
Hi, no, those are really cheap sounding too sharp and thin sound, thanks for watching
@artothevid
@artothevid 4 жыл бұрын
How do these compare to Audison APK165 and Hertz MPK 165.3?
@frednsound
@frednsound 4 жыл бұрын
Apk will be the same level, the mpk will be better, thanks for watching
@JerChong
@JerChong 4 жыл бұрын
how are these compare to pioneer TS-Z65CH ? please advice. TQ
@frednsound
@frednsound 4 жыл бұрын
Jer. Chong hi, the pioneer will be better, thanks for watching
@jonathanpalacios272
@jonathanpalacios272 4 жыл бұрын
Hi, which speakers component system would you recommend Focal Performance 165AS3 vs audison prima APK 165.
@frednsound
@frednsound 4 жыл бұрын
Jonathan Palacios hi, same level, both harsh tweeters, get other models then these, thanks for watching
@LEEALANIS77
@LEEALANIS77 4 жыл бұрын
Great sounding speakers! What would you recommend for a civic 2013? I have some infinitys but don't sound anything like these
@frednsound
@frednsound 4 жыл бұрын
Hi, these are not much better then yours, according to your budget, I could recommend best, thanks for watching
@drunkenbass6128
@drunkenbass6128 4 жыл бұрын
He has these wired to high end equipment i'd imagine. I have a set of infinity 60.7cs components and they sound like my buddies $500 kicker Q series 6.5 components. Infinity can sound amazing hooked up right. These focals do sound nice but these are the chinese model
@oslozoya1
@oslozoya1 3 жыл бұрын
@@drunkenbass6128 i just installed jbl gto on an infinity amp need to still change head unit how would you compare them to something like polk mm series?
@МихаилЗачиняев
@МихаилЗачиняев 5 жыл бұрын
Hi Fred! What would you recommend for sq system for around 700€? Need 2-way component 16.5, rear coax, amplifier and subwoofer. Thanks!
@frednsound
@frednsound 5 жыл бұрын
Hi, SQ650c SQ650 F6-380 MCW10, Thanks
@gackal1982
@gackal1982 2 жыл бұрын
got a set of these and they sound honky, bright and way too vocal for my taste, a dsp helped me smooth out the curve and they sound great now
@frednsound
@frednsound 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing and watching 🔊
@param_putr
@param_putr Жыл бұрын
Everybody was saying the same thing about how high pitched these are. I had the same idea to get a DSP and smooth it out. I could always tune it if I wanted additional high frequency. Great call
@sparkyspark1582
@sparkyspark1582 4 жыл бұрын
Hi I bought x 2 set of those focal speakers .can you advise on a amp to add please .is Pioneer GM-D1004 good enough ?
@frednsound
@frednsound 4 жыл бұрын
Hi, yes it will do the job, enjoy them, thanks for watching
@ozarkpipertony8396
@ozarkpipertony8396 3 жыл бұрын
Would these be good for a 2020 Honda Accord Sport 1.5T car? Also what amp do you suggest to go with 2 pairs of these and a JL audio CP110-WOV3?Thanks!
@frednsound
@frednsound 3 жыл бұрын
Hi, if you like bright sound then yeah it will work for you, get AudioSystem Italy F4-400 for speakers, dst850dII for the sub, thanks for watching
@b00545194
@b00545194 5 жыл бұрын
That is not performance series, is acces. Performance is a next level. Of course acces sounds very good. Focal entry level sounds very good.
@frednsound
@frednsound 5 жыл бұрын
gerardo DP hi, read the labels, thanks
@jebm
@jebm 5 жыл бұрын
What is the price of that component in Italy? I live in Mexico and I bought mine for $77 USD dollars... In USA are very expensive, they cost at least $320...
@frednsound
@frednsound 5 жыл бұрын
Pancho Lion hi, about 150€, thanks for watching
@danielcaschetto
@danielcaschetto 5 жыл бұрын
Are good speakers? Wich are pro and cons? I was loading this test from a Lot of time...
@frednsound
@frednsound 5 жыл бұрын
Daniel Caschetto hi, could get so much better for the€, electronic music will work fine, other then that it’s too thin/sharp, thanks for watching
@kaiaphas24
@kaiaphas24 4 жыл бұрын
Which one do you recommend, the access 165 as or the k2 power?
@frednsound
@frednsound 4 жыл бұрын
Hi, k2 is better, thanks for watching
@cruzmorales2237
@cruzmorales2237 4 жыл бұрын
They are good but also, depends on the source
@frednsound
@frednsound 4 жыл бұрын
Cruz Morales hi, thanks for watching
@antonioluna1879
@antonioluna1879 5 жыл бұрын
Yo tengo tengo el 165 AS3 en mi auto buen sonido saludos
@frednsound
@frednsound 5 жыл бұрын
hi, glad you liked them, enjoy:) thanks for watching
@MaximusOpus
@MaximusOpus 5 жыл бұрын
What I have noticed over the years of car audio industry... Focal once built their reputation raised prices up but sound quality (excluding utopia line) ... went down. I agree with Fred Tweeters are very harsh and woofers very decent nothing special. Overall not worth the money. In this way they are counting on stupid people who will buy their speakers no matter what because this is mighty Focal and Company can cut costs of production and save a lot of money for another research. Thats very smart ... Focal but I do not buy that shit thanks
@frednsound
@frednsound 5 жыл бұрын
hi, that is what I'm trying to explain on many other brands, value to performance whats matter, true tech and developments change/matter the overall product, thanks for watching
@stevendphoto
@stevendphoto 5 жыл бұрын
The fact is: ALL things are subject and open to opinions, YOUR opinion seems to be that Focal is too expensive for the prices they charge, which is a completely VALID opinion. There are Toyota drivers that feel the EXACT same way regarding BMW's (or Audi's or Lexus, etc.). But if someone CAN afford them, why not? Is a millionaire (which I am not) supposed to buy a Toyota (or Mazda, or Honda, etc.) simply because of someone's opinion on it being a better VALUE, instead of buying a Beamer? If you can provide empirical data showing a $120 pair of Infinity's or JBL's are better than the $380 Focals, please feel free to present that here. I recently upgraded to two pairs of the 165AS and am quite pleased with them! Cheers!
@frednsound
@frednsound 5 жыл бұрын
stevendphoto hi, I don’t know from where you got the idea of focal is expensive, but there is such thing performance to price, it’s just what you described in what I said before, in different words, and yes you can get better speakers for less then other expensive ones, thanks
@stevendphoto
@stevendphoto 5 жыл бұрын
@@frednsound I'm commenting on what MAX said, not you...
@frednsound
@frednsound 5 жыл бұрын
stevendphoto yeah ok, have a happy new year
@AspTin
@AspTin 2 ай бұрын
Por qué al inicio se escucha de vrg. ?
@frednsound
@frednsound 2 ай бұрын
What?
@jchl47hl4
@jchl47hl4 4 жыл бұрын
Hi my friend, for 70 dls it ok, i think
@frednsound
@frednsound 4 жыл бұрын
hi my friend, what model of DLS? thanks for watching
@jchl47hl4
@jchl47hl4 4 жыл бұрын
@@frednsound sorry sorry, 70 usd jaja
@frednsound
@frednsound 4 жыл бұрын
@@jchl47hl4 :), what model of DLS in 70 usd?, thanks
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