Helaman 7-12 Part 1 • Prof. Shima Baughman • September 2 - September 8 • Come Follow Me

[@saragroves4103]

I'm listening to this for the second time and would like to share one of my tiny but amazing miracles. I'm old, I have been diabetic since 1983, I began checking my blood sugar level everyday for close to 10 years ago. My insurance company has a contract with a company that keeps me in supplies. One of the fun things is the test strips come in 5 different colors. In the bottles of 50 there never seems to be enough "purple" strips... that is my daughter's favorite color... she passed from this life at the end of 2019. So, with every purple test strip, I take a moment to talk to my daughter. Just fun talk. One day, as I was about to open a new bottle from a new package, I felt the Holy Spirit tell me to ask Heavenly Father for more people strips. I took a moment, and in my prayer, I asked Father, "If it isn't wrong to ask Thee, would Thou add a few more purple strips". When I opened the canister and checked, THEY WERE ALL PURPLE! Immediately, I thanked my Heavenly Father for such a tender gift. I just opened my 3rd such box (9th cannister of strips) and opened the strips again they are all purple. I have received nothing but purple testing strips since that tender prayer. And everyday, I get to thank Heavenly Father for His kindness to me! I love knowing my daughter is close by, too!

[@beccihuff3143]

Holy crap-I need to listen to this every day! I needed this!

[@esmeraldamaldonado4574]

Thank you the three of you. You insights are a true blessing to me.

[@steelemacfarlane6009]

I really enjoyed this episode. As always you gave me lots to think about. Professor Baughman was great!

[@crystalmichell6970]

Wow what an amazing podcast! So many good view points!

[@mackenzieware74]

Several months ago I wanted to seek and expect more miracles in my life and I felt prompted to study some of the Lord’s miracles and learn principles that govern miracles. The gratitude expressed BEFORE the miracle was the thing that jumped out at me that I had never before noticed. Wow! I can testify that the more gratitude we express, the more miracles we will see!! ❤

[@drewhunt8725]

She a has such incredible insights with her expertise in law that make these scriptures come to light in an incredible way and I love how you can tell she doesn't just have common "cookie cutter political Utahn beliefs" but that she faithfully lives the gospel in her way. We really aren't all meant to believe the same things politically and it was refreshing to get snippets of her beliefs that you can tell come straight from her love for and emulation of the savior.

[@LCMoyers]

I am listening from Mechanicville NY, just north of Albany. My brother works in Salt Lake with one of the judges at the courthouse and he has shared how his understanding of justice and mercy have evolved since he started there. He has so much more compassion for people because he’s watched the worst of them be prosecuted and also seen them repent and seek redemption. I loved the insights shared about the criminal justice system.

[@maryloissnow]

I love watching this podcast on Sunday after church as I am preparing dinner. I really appreciate that your guest is always given so much time to speak. As I was listening today I thought about how many times in the Book of Mormon Moses is mentioned and the deliverance of Israel from Egypt. I have always thought it was because of these verses in Exodus 13:8-9, 14. 8 ¶ And thou shalt shew thy son in that day, saying, This is done because of that which the Lord did unto me when I came forth out of Egypt. 9 And it shall be for a sign unto thee upon thine hand, and for a memorial between thine eyes, that the Lord’s law may be in thy mouth: for with a strong hand hath the Lord brought thee out of Egypt. 14 ¶ And it shall be when thy son asketh thee in time to come, saying, What is this? that thou shalt say unto him, By strength of hand the Lord brought us out from Egypt, from the house of bondage:

[@karenheil2429]

Having worked in the prison system for over 12 years I would have to agree with all of you. If it's one thing I taught the inmates, it was that they were not defined by the worst thing they ever did. I saw the atonement work and men who had committed heinous crimes but I also knew their life stories and often wondered if their parents should have been the ones locked up😢 can people change Is permanent improvement possible? Clinton Duffy, an American prison warden known for successfully rehabilitating prisoners, certainly thought so. One critic mocked him, saying, “You should know that leopards don’t change their spots!” Duffy responded, “You should know I don’t work with leopards. I work with men, and men change every day.”❤

[@CarsonGower-t5e]

Thank you Prof. Baughman. I have been thinking about pursuing my studies in Criminal Justice and your testimony gives me an added witness that this is a career I want to pursue. I love how you tied your faith in the atonement of Jesus Christ into your line of work. This was so inspiring for me.

[@pfoxworth7]

I was on my way to work the other day, overwhelmed by the challenges of my job. Iwas not totally hopeless but getting close. I listened to this message and was in tears by the time I got to work. My tears were different than the weight I felt before and now turned into tears of gratitude for all the Lord has blessed me with. I rejoice in the goodness the three of you emanate. I am in awe. Thank you for your focus on the Savior and for keeping your lives pure. One point of clarity is that this is not flattery because I'm not seeking to lead you away from Christ. My hope is that my comments fuel you to continue to do good. 😊

[@tylerhoward8490]

Love this episode! Listening from Boring, Oregon

[@tiffanyallred6395]

Another great episode of follow him. I’m listening from Southern California. I particularly loved Shima‘s advice to take our complaints to God and our love to our family. I have a tendency to share difficult things with my friends and family about my spouse and this helped me see that that might not be the best. I have to give Grace to my spouse to figure out his own problems and look to the motes and beams in my own eye. So really enjoyed this episode and sending lots of love to Shima as she continues her ministering journey to those who so desperately need Christ.

[@ShaylaHowe]

Shima is so beautiful! I feel empowered by her strength. She’s an impressive woman! I served in the California Anaheim Mission and met wonderful friends from Iran who became very dear to me. They also have incredible faith journeys ❤️

[@heathertorrie]

Such a great episode. It was refreshing to have this perspective with your background on criminal justice. And I appreciate that you kept it focused on the scriptures for the week as well.

[@EllenSwensen-m7r]

I know it's not right but I felt quite relieved hearing that being annoyed at the inconvenience of others also made the lists of such admirable people. Thanks for being honest, knowledgeable, inspiring and FUN!

[@MargaretBleak]

Professor Baughman, thank you for sharing your story with us in these lessons. Beautifully done, leads me to ponder on those incarcerated and those having been offended in a new light. Glory to Jesus and his INFINITE Atonement.

[@phantom20071]

Some good thoughts on goodness and "badness." However, it's important to notice that in dealing with the criminal element, you also have victims and they have to be considered as well. If a person is a serial rapist, the desire to "not condemn" may be overridden by the mandate to protect the innocent who have not yet been molested as well as provide some sense of justice for the victims.

[@renatemckendry104]

Such a wonderful, inspiring lesson. So interesting to hear Sr. Baughman’ s story. Thanks for sharing this with us! ❤🇨🇦

[@stevereich7070]

I love the point about only complaining about people to God. Keeping people’s names safe. Let God change your heart.

[@janenejasinski7781]

Excellent podcast! Kudos to your staff for bringing Dr. Baughman to the program. I was inspired by her perspective and her unique testimony. Listening in Richmond, KY

[@j_elder985]

Another EXCELLENT podcast! Love the words she says about our children. Thank you

[@BrianShaver-y1y]

I serve a prison branch and cannot tell you how helpful and interesting this episode has been! Thank you!

[@KarenFisher-b8t]

We're listening from Laie, Hawaii, while serving our mission. Loved this episode! Actually, we love them all!!

[@darrinray3636]

I love you every episode of this program. This one was extra special and was amazing and inspired. There were parts of this episode that I think were included specifically for me. The part about mercy and forgiveness against someone who has harmed my family is something I have been wrestling with for several years now. Thank you for sharing your knowledge and insights Professor Baughman!

[@justkeepswimming6549]

Wonderful from start to finish! Thank you again for another inspired lesson. I feel like I grow in spirit every time I listen. ❤

[@Elizabethstanger]

Such a beautiful discussion! Shima's family motto reminded me of our own family motto that we decided on years ago. "Stalwart and brave, we stand" from the hymn Carry On. Firm as the mountains around us, stalwart and brave we stand, on the rock, our father's planted for us in this goodly land. The rock of honor and virtue, of faith in the living God. How grateful I am for those who came before and turned the Utah desert into a rose, but more importantly, for our pioneers who taught us with their bedrock of faith in our Savior.

[@zinzimasinga8071]

This is so funny and so uplifting ❤

[@KimHansen-g5b]

I love this podcast- it has uplifted me so much. Been listening every week for a few weeks now and it has helped bring the Spirit into my life more. I loved on this weeks the emphasis on thanking God for the miracles before they happen. That will help me expect them and help me in my calling, which is really hard for me right now. A good reminder that if God called me He will help me! Thank you for this podcast from Lakeland, Florida!

[@mindyhoke4719]

Thank you!! Loved this week ❤

[@danedy9979]

Hearkening from Thailand with ❤

[@evaang3616]

I don’t know if it’s that time of the month but I teared 😢up and cried many times thru this podcast. Thanks for your amazing souls, and for sharing your deep & thoughtful insights.

[@svetavasilieva7841]

Thank you

[@DJ-rl3nk]

Watching from NSW Australia love all the shows. Thank you ❤🙏

[@lisameyer1777]

This was so great! My husband is serving as missionaries/service representatives in Dubai!! Thank you for great message.

[@LarryColton-x4k]

Shima, thank you for your insights and sharing your story. It hit close to home for me because when I was on my mission in Germany, I taught several people from Iran who were at the time, refugees. One was a professor who had been teaching at the University of Southern California and had to leave his family and return to Iran because of threats from the government. He was able to escape from Iran and ended up in Germany where we taught him the gospel and he joined the church. I lost track of him and have always wondered if he was able to get back to his family in California, and if he stayed true to the gospel. Your story brought that experience to my remembrance. Such wonderful examples of faith. Thank you!

[@barbarafarnsworth4800]

Shema, you are lovely. I am so glad your family found the Gospel and it is obvious that God knew you did and do have business in America. We are lucky to have you here.

[@romettaison7003]

Oh we are grateful our migration law allowed you in to USA… makes me wonder… how many other wonderful people we did Not allow in?!

[@NonaNewbold-l7z]

So good! Iam uplifted. ❤

[@MsJet1]

People need to face justice for their bad choices, but we must never give up on them.

[@dinocollins720]

Great lesson! Thanks from NYC!

[@EowynG191]

That Gandalf impression, though!!! Epic! 🏆

[@dianahumphries5906]

Hank did my favourite LOTR quote!!!! SO GOOD!!! 😅

[@robertlewis7208]

This was awesome 😎👍 North Carolina

[@jimscott2998]

With a population f 350000 icelands crime rate shows that population density has a major impact on the crime incidence. The population re a church attending people, all tends to keep people on the straight and narrow👍🏼

[@dallasmitchell6999]

People are not inherently bad but when they willingly and consistently do bad things, really bad things then to me they are bad guys! and that’s sad to say.

[@davidmickelle7326]

The trick is what do we replace the obvious pride response with the 10 questions. It isn't the same answer in all situations. Our passions and appetites are only wrong when applied in the wrong sphere. They are not inherently wrong. There is a time for war. There is a time for peace. There is a time for justice. There is a time for mercy. Pride is our fear that blinds us from being able to see clearly how to act appropriately in the situation. It is reactionary and we need to love ourselves and others enough to cast that fear out and know that we can act in confidence with the appropriate action. I know logically that answer and seek to incorporate it spiritually and experientially. So far I am failing, but one day with His help

[@BrittneyNoble-w2b]

The real question that should be asked is, what if your brother was the one who was murdered? Then would you be ok with the punishment? What about the victims? It sounds like BYU criminal justice classes are reflecting the societal view that the criminal always deserves mercy. The Book of Mormon teaches that justice is the law unless the perpetrator is repentant, and THEN mercy is the law. If all criminals are given mercy without true sorrow for what they have done, then you are just creating more future victims. The Nephites were in peril because the criminals (Gadianton Robbers) were going unpunished. There has to be a consequence attached to crimes or else there is lawlessness.

[@annettecolgrove580]

I am the first convert in my family. I am 4th generation from German immigrants. So far, I have not found any relatives in any church gathering, except for my own children.

[@blackjay5338]

At about 19:53, Shima"s 10 Questions about "Subtle Pride" Here's my own contribution: 11. When you read these questions do you think of someone you know who needs to read and think about these questions? 😄

[@marlenestanton4207]

1. Do you find yourself critiquing the talks in sacrament meeting? 2. Are you critical of others? Do you look down on others? Do you scorn or ridicule them? 3. When adversity strikes, do you hear a voice inside that says, “Why me?” 4. Do you react to prophetic counsel by ignoring it, being upset by it, or interpreting it to suit your own desires? 5. When you do something good, do you hear a voice inside congratulating yourself? 6. Do you feel self-gratification and a sense of importance in your knowledge and skill? 7. If someone you know receives something good, do you hear a voice inside saying, “What about me?” 8. Do you find ways to let others know of your success without appearing to boast? 9. If someone corrects a mistake you made, do you feel defensive and resentful? 10. When someone does something that creates inconvenience for you, do you feel annoyed?

[@jenniferstinson3297]

Shima! Inklings!! ❤

[@elainew6441]

One night during my personal prayers I complained to Heavenly Father about my husband and something he had done that irritated me and the Spirit clearly said,"You said yes." I learned to be more careful about complaining to God, sometimes we just have to let go.

[@monikawiesner293]

Love the 10. Question. Can i read them somewhere?

[@marlenestanton4207]

Kim Clark’s speech at BYU Idaho.

[@marlenestanton4207]

1. Do you find yourself critiquing the talks in sacrament meeting? 2. Are you critical of others? Do you look down on others? Do you scorn or ridicule them? 3. When adversity strikes, do you hear a voice inside that says, “Why me?” 4. Do you react to prophetic counsel by ignoring it, being upset by it, or interpreting it to suit your own desires? 5. When you do something good, do you hear a voice inside congratulating yourself? 6. Do you feel self-gratification and a sense of importance in your knowledge and skill? 7. If someone you know receives something good, do you hear a voice inside saying, “What about me?” 8. Do you find ways to let others know of your success without appearing to boast? 9. If someone corrects a mistake you made, do you feel defensive and resentful? 10. When someone does something that creates inconvenience for you, do you feel annoyed?

[@Muzzy2024]

We’ve been taught to righteously judge the “what”. The “who” and the “why” are up to Christ to judge. That being said we MUST judge the what or we accept living on the slippery slope of the current societal belief that wrong and right are subjective, that a moral compass is up to the individual to determine. I can love my brother but he still must be punished if he has molested children. God’s laws are still relevant! Consequences are very much part of God’s Plan of Salvation💙💯

[@MrJtbsr927]

As always a great podcast, I'd love a copy of those 10 questions

[@marlenestanton4207]

1. Do you find yourself critiquing the talks in sacrament meeting? 2. Are you critical of others? Do you look down on others? Do you scorn or ridicule them? 3. When adversity strikes, do you hear a voice inside that says, “Why me?” 4. Do you react to prophetic counsel by ignoring it, being upset by it, or interpreting it to suit your own desires? 5. When you do something good, do you hear a voice inside congratulating yourself? 6. Do you feel self-gratification and a sense of importance in your knowledge and skill? 7. If someone you know receives something good, do you hear a voice inside saying, “What about me?” 8. Do you find ways to let others know of your success without appearing to boast? 9. If someone corrects a mistake you made, do you feel defensive and resentful? 10. When someone does something that creates inconvenience for you, do you feel annoyed?

[@cheerfulheart2]

Thx

[@LindaGomez-w7i]

Listening at time marker19:30, I love the shift in thinking the rescued lawyers poses but I also then think, what if the victim was my brother?

[@LindaGomez-w7i]

Oh I guess she answeres it in part 2 I just needed to keep listening. Place was part 2 32:20

[@ShallaeDeMers]

Just thinking how nice it would be to stay on task

[@kenpearce3269]

❤❤❤

[@margaretanderson5531]

Poverty, hunger and crime. "It is hard for an empty sack to stand upright." I don't know the source of that quote. I think I read that recently in Benjamin Franklin's autobiography.

[@tyrakemp147]

Great lessons available here! May we see the list of questions Shima shared from her date night? Thank you all for these efforts to help us all.

[@davidk4869]

There is a link to a transcript under the description above.

[@cobyfabrizio3680]

1. Do you find yourself critiquing the talks in sacrament meeting? 2. Are you critical of others? Do you look down on others? Do you scorn or ridicule them? 3. When adversity strikes, do you hear a voice inside that says, “Why me?” 4. Do you react to prophetic counsel by ignoring it, being upset by it, or interpreting it to suit your own desires? 5. When you do something good, do you hear a voice inside congratulating yourself? 6. Do you feel self-gratification and a sense of importance in your knowledge and skill? 7. If someone you know receives something good, do you hear a voice inside saying, “What about me?” 8. Do you find ways to let others know of your success without appearing to boast? 9. If someone corrects a mistake you made, do you feel defensive and resentful? 10. When someone does something that creates inconvenience for you, do you feel annoyed?

[@michelleolson645]

@@cobyfabrizio3680thank you so much!!!

[@isabellee7212]

What we do when people "vent" with a psychologist or therapist? Do we need friends or family members to "vent"?

[@scottmuir6127]

WHy did Cain kill his brother? Because he was Able

[@leahg3926]

😅😊😅😊😅

[@JohnJayHarris]

Too soon Bruh. 😂

[@MsJet1]

I have learned to keep my mouth shut when I have judgemental thoughts.

[@Betty-Because]

❤

[@herbtoe]

Bad drivers……going the speed limit. You must be talking about us lovely speeders down here in the south. 😂

[@isabellee7212]

The other option is to leave the murder on the island. 😅. I am joking. Great lesson.!! We are all brothers and sisters.

[@suzannaylor653]

Shima, some day the gates of Iran will open and you will be able to compete for first in the "relative finder" game. 🙏😊

[@TexasRedneck]

Pride test 19:56

[@TexasRedneck]

10 Pride Questions: 1) Do you find yourself critiquing the talks in sacrament meeting? 2) Are you critical of others, do you look down on others, scorn or ridicule them? 3) When adversity strikes, do you hear the voice inside that says, "why me?" 4) Do you react to prophetic counsel by ignoring it, being upset by it, or interpreting it to suit your own desires? 5) When you do something good, do you hear a voice inside congratulating yourself? 6) Do you feel self-gratification and a sense of importance in your knowledge and skill? 7) If someone you know receives something good, do you hear a voice inside saying, "what about me?" 8) Do you find ways to let others know of your success without appearing to boast? 9) If someone corrects a mistake you made, do you feel defensive and resentful? 10) When someone does something that creates inconvenience for you, do you feel annoyed?