Food Chain Magnate 5p Play-through, Teaching, & Roundtable discussion by Heavy Cardboard

[@johansjogren1908]

Complains that they dont need to go over every card but make jokes about each and every card. Admire the patience of the guy explaining the rules

[@bookaddict777]

I never understood what the big deal about this game was when it came out. Now I do. Thanks for the play through, guys!

[@the_luggage]

Huge thank you to the person in the chat who mentioned being able to play this at boardgamecore!

[@mongoosethe]

This is a great example of why you would not want to replace the food and drink components with more fancy versions of themselves. Otherwise great playthrough as always! Also, just thinking about how good this already was and how much better it is now makes you realise what kind of value HC adds to the hobby.

[@the_luggage]

This game really intrigues me, I'd love to see you guys play it again! Thanks for the upload!

[@damianwhite8044]

An enjoyable watch. FCM doesn't strike me as the easiest game to showcase in this manner due to it's high level of non-obvious strategy, but you guys did a great job of showing how the game plays, both mechanically and Machiavellianly. And the new studio looks great. Looking forward Indonesia! :)

[@mikeschmidt9298]

I loved this video, thank you! It confirmed that this is not a game I will play with my family, but I'd love it in my collection for a game night with a couple friends. Thank you guys!

[@andrewplassard4278]

The audio was very boom-y especially on headphones. Was there a change in the microphones used? Its mostly for Edward.

[@Heavycardboard]

Yup, we're aware of it. Thanks for the heads up and watching! Everyone has their own mics (started with the Scythe video). It's just a matter of dialing in the mics a bit better.

[@madipaige315]

@@Heavycardboard Have you looked into an inline compressor?

[@EderNovacki]

Revisiting this vid for an upcoming game.. it's astonishing to see how much you guys improved regarding quality... pretty cool.

[@meloncollector6662]

This game seems absolutely fascinating. If only it was a bit cheaper.

[@AlexTheUruguayan]

@43:50 that restaurant should (strategically speaking) be rotated 90° counter-clockwise since there's no benefit to it being the way it is after the player understood that crossing a tile boundary is what makes for increased distance. Edit: Oh good, he noticed and rotated it after the initial auction.

[@leeko8581]

about 10 mins into the rules explanation and already loving this video! *edit: callout of 1080 much appreciated!

[@Heavycardboard]

Glad to hear it, Lee. Thanks for watching and the kind words!

[@realzachsmith]

@@Heavycardboard where did you buy your card sleeves? And would you recommend them?

[@TorIverWilhelmsen]

The only Splotter I own is UR: 1830 B.C. but that is more of a strange 18XX title than anything else. Though I have played FCM, I enjoyed it but felt it required that all the players have to be at the same level, otherwise experienced players will just make new players into spectators, unable to stand a chance.

[@jwomlo]

Watching this with the new edition of FCM in mind. Great stuff this video ❤

[@aty57]

I really like this setup guys :) Glad to see playthroughs of these games that are not often touched.

[@Femaiden]

40 minutes in to the explanation and "Don't be fooled, this game seems simple, but it's not" understatement of the year. . .

[@AlexTheUruguayan]

@1:03:30 you would get two drinks of a particular type since the milestone is "first to play" and you had already done that in the auction. Edit: shortly corrected.

[@KronikAlkoholik]

@2:55:10 Edward gets paid 25$ for Beer and burgers, he has Pricing manager out and the milestone. Should have got 21$ right?

[@AlexTheUruguayan]

Nit: @44:40 initial restaurant placement says one's not allowed to have the front door on the same tile. I.e. you can be half on the same tile as long as it doesn't include your restaurant's exit. Edit: he clarified this rule shortly after.

[@ericglimme3362]

FCM is my favorite game. I'm highly anticipating that Heavy Cardboard will introduce me to games that will dethrone it. You guys do a great job of showcasing and explaining.

[@chaosordeal294]

FCM is probably in my current top three. The only game I would definitely place higher is 1817. I don't think they have ever played it, but they have had some great 18xx plays on the channel, though 1817 is its own beast.

[@CosmeBG]

at 2:19:40 there is a post box marketing campaign going on (number 7). Why it does not affect the houses on the left side of the board (the one with the garden and the one with the billboards? Thank you in advance!

[@CosmeBG]

2:39:15 - House 7 did not receive a coke from the campaign? again error or rules?

[@dviant13]

42:30 concerning where entrance is - I'm assuming they ultimately played that rule correctly, is that true?

[@AlexTheUruguayan]

@9:10 when you place them face down, they should be in two piles (on the beach and working) otherwise you might show the slowpoke in your group how many free slots you'll be having.

[@teslavoltagames3208]

MY 3rd favorite game of all time. I would play this game every day if I could.

[@reinaldfratti8919]

Tesla Volta Games what is top 1 and 2 then? :)

[@teslavoltagames3208]

Twilight Imperium 4th edition and Dominion. 3 very different games from each other.

[@stevegeorge7773]

Great explanation at 1:16 to 1:17 or so.

[@Heavycardboard]

Hey Steve! You mean 1:16:00 and I agree! "Sweater" Mike is a great guy, good friend, and brings a lot to our game days (and live-streams too). Glad you enjoyed it!

[@maxpistilli]

@1:55:20 "Look here Philly boy..." "Don't worry I'm gonna bring my Cowboys gear..." "How bout them Cowboys?" "Wait, Philly still has a football team?" Eagles win next Superbowl :)

[@adamp3628]

I do not like the upgraded"bits" versus the standard wooden bits because the board looks busier and it is more difficult to quickly visualize where things are on the board. Especially on video.

[@Heavycardboard]

Hey Adam, thanks for watching. We appreciate the feedback and hope you enjoyed the video otherwise!

[@MaSchmi]

but on the other side: where the hell did you get them? they look amazing!

[@apostateant]

I was pretty sure this game was a pass for me. Thanks for convincing me otherwise. Great stream despite any new studio growing pains.

[@apostateant]

Just to follow up, FCM and Indonesia on the way. Quality play through definitely a strong factor in picking this up instead of passing, thanks! Now to wait patiently for Antiquity reprint (even after watching two play throughs, still not sure R&B is for me).

[@DanieltheBibleNerd]

What made you change your mind about FCM? I'm thinking about picking it up.

[@momgamer9750]

Those components are amazing 😍

[@benishikela4168]

[@jimmybaggz5932]

I just played a 3 player game of this using the Recruiter girl strat and won easily! We had a 2nd bank of $600. I ended up with $895.

[@austoncarpenter4702]

Where did you get the upgraded pieces!

[@timmsimpson]

2:53:54 Edward should have satisfied more houses with his coke (from the 2 coke and 1 beer under player 5 next to the board) which got moved during the bank breaking. He would have therefore also satisfied House #1 and House #3 getting $23 and $41 respectively I think (Gardens and discount) And then causing ongoing changes in demand for House #3 into the future

[@luizhdcosta]

He also forgot that he has the first to lower prices that he can't deactivate, so all his produce would be selling for $1 less.

[@stevegeorge7773]

At about 1:02 the host wrote on the sheet in front of him. Whoa! Why would you do that with a texter?

[@Heavycardboard]

Those sheets are all laminated and writing with a wet-erase marker. It's all good, no worries! ;)

[@KronikAlkoholik]

I thought you would do each in order during the working phase, Hire in order, then after all have hired, train in order, etc. It could matter when thinking about what and where someone is marketing. Am I wrong?

[@Heavycardboard]

Nope, the rules state that one player conducts that entire step in its entirety before the next player begins. Hope that helps and thanks a bunch for watching, Ingolfur!

[@JuanDelaCruz-ux3tr]

Whered you get those components?

[@CalebSmithBAM]

what did you use to hold the employee cards off to the side there?

[@Heavycardboard]

boardgamegeekstore.com/products/food-chain-magnate-milestone-boards-card-accordion

[@realzachsmith]

@@Heavycardboard what do you recommend nowadays since that is not in stock and do you still play FCM often?

[@Dr.Logistik]

just ordered the deluxe edition :)

[@flyworld9620]

where did you get those neat miniatures from?

[@Heavycardboard]

Matt tricked out his copy with dollhouse miniatures off of eBay. Thanks for watching!

[@bushibayushi]

Why did you select turn order again after placing restaurants? There's no rule that ells you to do so.

[@luizhdcosta]

Placing restaurants is pre-first round, then you do the normal turn order selection for the first round.

[@kennyb3325]

Catching up on the hours I missed (sorry, the live stream hiatus was only slightly longer than it has been since I last talked with her, and I get in trouble if I get my priorities wrong!), it seems there should have been demand put on House 1 for lemonade due to a mail campaign (the same one that puts demand on Houses 7, 18, and 21 [24? curse my eyes!]). This occurs at about the same point as Matt makes his elephant fry pun. Interestingly, since House 1 is served first, they would take Edward's lemonade before he could sell it to House 7 (but since they had a garden, they would pay him 2x8 + 5 = $21 for the privilege). Of course, since he could see that coming, he could use his Errand Boy that round to get more lemonade (instead of the pair of soda pops he grabs). All told, this error probably only cost Edward $21, which, considering end scores, is not a crushing blow. I mention it because it illustrates A) how easy it is to get into a habit when doing advertising, then missing game state changes and B) the effect of demand on a low numbered house can have on your poor plans for later riches! But mainly, I am making this comment because Matt's pun was under appreciated in its own time! Thumbs up for Dumbo puns! Edit: I finally realized that the house I couldn't tell if it was House 21 or 24 was actually House 12... I see real good...

[@kennyb3325]

Also, House 7 seems to have missed a soda pop at the end of the demand phase that ends 2:14:30. No time stamp on the last comment because I waited until dinner time to make sure my eyes didn't just miss a piece that was actually on the board (then I was too lazy to go back and get a time stamp, because it was by the elephant pun, so who needs one?).

[@kennyb3325]

The goods Edward tossed at 2:50:30 were indeed his, but he "should" have used them fulfilling some orders during the previous dinner hour. I vote that since he has to split his attention between playing and dealing with the live stream, he should just be awarded $100 (in game score, not in cash, well, not my cash at least) each game he plays. Obviously, this will be more helpful in some games (like FCM) than in others (like 1830), and downright strange in still others (Dokmus, I have 53 points and $100...?).

[@kennyb3325]

On that note, Edward did not get his "first beverage advertised" bonus on the beer and 2 cokes when he fulfilled House 3. This happened at about 3:13:00, but I waited to see if it would be caught, so I didn't grab the exact time stamp. So he should be at 16x5 + 15 = $95.

[@kennyb3325]

Edward's billboard placement at 3:31:09 is technically against the rules, as I understand them, since it is within range, but he doesn't have road access to any of the squares of the billboard. However, he could market to the exact same houses by rotating the billboard to be horizontal (rather than vertical), and then it would be beside a road he can reach. Since this affects nothing, I only mention it to illustrate the details of range calculations.

[@kennyb3325]

As always, I think these videos are an invaluable resource for the gaming community at large, and especially those of us who game at the heavier end of the spectrum! I hope my schedule allows me to watch the entire live stream at some point in the near future. Also, Ascher is just a little cutie!

[@trenthogan4212]

The new printing of this game is finally available. I see Splotter has 176 copies on their webstore.

[@aty57]

Maybe you mentioned this, but where did you get those awesome pieces from? Sorry if it was mentioned in the video since it seems I missed it :(

[@ganashal]

aty57 they talked about it during their setup explanation I think? Somewhere near the top. It was Ebay I think? Miniatures from Thailand? I forget, it's been over 4 hours :)

[@buteverybodycallsmegiorgio]

Ok, I've been trying to find those upgraded tokens for the resources but I can't find anything... any tips?

[@nizmotube]

Giovanni Giorgio also keen to know where these are sourced. Dollhouse food I have found is pricey

[@fingolfin75]

Where did you get those food tokens?? Me waaaaantt!!!!

[@jamiewallis2797]

What happened to Amanda? Not seen her for ages.

[@ghostofeuler]

Sounds good!

[@scotti1660]

Where's the Antiquity playthrough?

[@ПетрЧечин-й3щ]

Greet game.Thanks

[@tommessig2060]

This game looks great, too bad they're so exclusive and high priced.

[@trenthogan4212]

They are Tom, crazy high-prices but darn good games. This one is back in stock than heavens. I also own The Great Zimbabwe which is excellent.

[@luizhdcosta]

Edward has done a lot of false advertising, saying he had a discount but charging the full price. :D

[@Davearmstrong42]

I just started the video so if you answer this, don't respond here. Where did you get those bits?

[@Davearmstrong42]

should have waited a few minutes to ask :)

[@mzy115]

Is the audio out of sync?

[@Juegosmontt]

That cenital videocamera is in my opinion in general not so useful. I don't understand the tendency to over used it. I like videos with more resemblance of 3D instead 2D

[@maxmclain7781]

That guys tattoo had me concerned he had necrosis

[@RulebooksForYou]

Want to play online. Message me if you are interested!

[@DerRentner818]

hire and hire baby

[@albertoburgassi]

"Pizza is overrated" -> the entire italian population now hates you ;) Jk love your work, I'm not familar with the different kind of american pizza you have but come to Italy and taste the REAL one: you'll change your mind

[@Heavycardboard]

Soon :D

[@nickh-i9846]

I do love me some Italian, thin crust with a delicious blend of cheese, seasoned to perfection. Buuuut, you need to come to Montreal, up in Canada, and have real deep dish pizza. Thick crust, extra cheese, slathered in ingredients. Sadly there are not too many good places that do it right left but damn they make good pizza.

[@bwrpwr]

They say calling Philly's football team a team is a bit of a stretch...the next season they win the Superbowl. Egg on the face there.

[@iamjaybugg]

Everyone’s beach should be public.

[@ryancabanas]

Technically, no. During Phase 1, both structure and beach piles are face down. Structure pile is revealed. Rules don't say to reveal beach pile. Although during any other phase, you can request to know all cards a player has, including those in the beach pile.

[@eduardoalvaro8434]

The voice is out of sync. I hope they fix it

[@danvargas7065]

43 mins: Start yo play goddammit

[@RandomPerson-nd2ey]

Haha. I know I'm late but check in the description of the video. Important times are there.

[@jedigreg4636]

The game board is fugly looks like a prototype. I guess this is the equivalent of playing 8 bit classic video games - if the game play is there who cares?

[@Cons2911]

Interesting...wait, this is $100??

[@pm71241]

It was probably a mistake to play with the Thai pieces for this play-through. The pizzas are hard to see on the camera.

[@leasmo7263]

Test

[@XCrawlFan]

I really wanted to like this game, but the longer it went, the less in love with it I was. Your video was great, but for me, this game is a pass.

[@errows]

Get better microphones. As such with this audio this video is unwatchable.