Food Grade Pails and Lids What You Need To Know

[@marguerite8796]

My husband and could not get the outside seal on even with a Malot but our neighbor came over and suggested using the hair dryer to heat the part that wouldn’t snap on. It WORKED!

[@sandrahertel6282]

Couldn’t get it to fit either. Was thinking of using hot water but might try a hair dryer instead, thanks,

[@jonezmusicgroup]

Thanks for the vid. I just watched a video of a guy explaining how the gamma lids aren’t air tight by conducting a water test. Then he went to the store he purchased them from and examined the lids there. The molding used to make the lids had a place where the mold came together that caused the leak. Be sure to examine the gamma lids thoroughly prior to purchasing!

[@terrilizotte3971]

If you soak the initial lid for 5 to 10 minutes under hot tap water it goes right on

[@cmearls55]

@@terrilizotte3971 The problem isn't getting the ring on it's the seal between the ring and the lid. The lid has railed lines of plastic (Mold Marks} from when the lid was molded from plastic. Try sealing water in it. It will leak.

[@terrilizotte3971]

@@cmearls55 ty

[@danieledwards7178]

What if ... the 1st ring that goes on , one used silicone in addition to the provided gasket ... because most likely your Never gonna take that 1st part off .. Then , then on the other screw on lid ... you put a thin layer of Petroleum Jelly on the rubber gasket ... it will help for a tighter seal .. and keep the rubber from drying out and becoming brittle over time ... ??????

[@cmearls55]

@@danieledwards7178 there isn't anything wrong with the oring. Oh and by the way petroleum can break down certain kinds of Orings. Silicone orange lube is inert.

[@megasav]

For the Gamma lids. At first I put the rims on like you did. Very difficult. Then I tried another way which was easier. Using a clock for reference think of the 12, 6, 9 and 3 o’clock positions. If you start at the 9 o’clock position and push it down then go to the 3 o’clock position directly across then the 12 o’clock position then 6 o’clock position. Go across from the position you start. Don’t start in one spot and try to go all the way around because the last little bit is going to be very difficult and you might damage the rim with the mallet. On the second two positions push them down at the same time. Works for me.

[@SpeckledBird1]

I'll try that if my hands every recover...I have to take rims off and start all over...been up all night trying to get them on🥴🤯🥵🤦😵

[@manuellubian5709]

Best explainer video for this subject. I've watched many others on the subject and none do as good, as you. Thanks for the lesson.

[@Nope_Nope]

Thank you for overheating in your kitchen just to show us “how to Gamma” I so appreciate it!🤗

[@WELSBYROOTS]

lol your welcome!

[@alexmaury17]

I just got 10 buckets and lids for food storage, and i was wondering why it didn't fit, so i went to my best friend, Mr Google and your video came up.. thanks, i knew it had a reasonable explanation. Thanks again

[@WELSBYROOTS]

glad you got something out of it!

[@oldtimerlee8820]

I bought food grade buckets a Tractor Supply a few weeks ago. Buckets are $4.99, plain lids $2.69 and Gamma lids are $10.99 (as of Mar 17 2022). Lowes Home Improvement has a bucket wrench (removes lid) for $2.48. Harbour Freight rubber mallet is $2.99. I keep a rubber mallet in the kitchen and another one in my shop. Bucket wrench is well worth the few bucks that makes it so much easier to take off the snap on lids.

[@thybowllingman2752]

Thank you sir. This helped me a lot. My bucket and rubber mallet are both in my Amazon basket! (I’m 25, starting early)

[@WELSBYROOTS]

good for you! wish I had the started earlier in life. buy land and a home that you can make self sufficient if possible. pay off all debt and save money!

[@TheDukie54]

I've fought these lids for a couple years. But I have a couple of comments or suggestions for you. The snap-on lid can be a drag to open, but you can buy a cheap tool that opens it really easy. Also, as I got older I found I didn't have the strength to put both styles of lids on and off. What I found out is that I can place the lids in place on the buckets, and then I stand on them, and they snap right on. To do the GAMMA lids I put the ring with lid on it, and stand on them as well. You can feel them snap solid. You may need to have a helper to aid in keeping you stabilized, but it works like a snap (pardon the pun), and you won't need to hammer it down.

[@WELSBYROOTS]

Great suggestions! Thanks for commenting, hopefully this will help out some people in the comments!

[@NC_SUGAR]

Thank you! I'll try that! I'm 65 and evidently am not strong enough to get my rings on. I did stand on it but I didn't put the pieces together first. I'll try that. I hope it works.

[@NC_SUGAR]

@@WELSBYROOTS Yes! It helped me. I'm 65 and I'm a tiny lady. I try my best to do everything on my own and this tip helps me so much.

[@TheDukie54]

@@NC_SUGAR I'm 68, once in a while I have to bounce on the lid. But be careful, WE don't bounce like we used too!...Take care.

[@cas6996]

Boy did you save me from returning these 25 lids I bought to split between me and my sister. They are really hard to put on with the instructions they came with so I decided to go and you tube and your comment was of much help. I stand on it with the lid in place and it just snapped right on. For anyone attempting this method please be careful though as the bucket could become unsteady. by the I used the Canadian tire food grade bucket. Thank you again.

[@relaxandslumber970]

Thanks for the knowledge on food grade buckets and lids.

[@nicolasmoore9708]

The main difference between food grade and the other is that you can put food directly into bucket without leaking any chemicals from plastic into food.

[@dustyboyer5623]

When you are sure you have assembled your screw on lid pour a gallon of water in the bucket and turn it upside down on 2 of mine the water started leaking out. There were flaws in the lids do to mold injection seams whare the oring seats They can be sanded download a good seal.

[@NYJean55]

Thanks for explaining this! I searched many and you are the only one to explain this!

[@WELSBYROOTS]

glad it helped and thanks for commenting, it helps me to know my content is helpful!

[@sed6]

Great video. Lids keep bugs out, mylar bags keep everything else out. I buy the cheapest lids and the best bags.

[@jacquieanna1]

Thank you so much. I couldn’t even get the ring spectated from the gamma lid

[@paula.2422]

I love these lids! Thankfully I was able to get them on easily and love how convenient they are and how well they work. Honestly, I would have more if they didn't have such a high price tag.

[@lifeisgood-victoria796]

I just purchased some gamma lids and the first thing I noticed was that they are NOT seal proof. So, I emailed the company and told them that the machine was leaving too much 'glue" in the four parts when the machine 'glues' them together and that maybe the ones I received was a bad batch. After much back and forth, here is the gist of what they told me. I SAID: The sticker that comes with the lids says that they are AIRTIGHT. RESPONSE VERBATIM: It is but those are little 1/8” o-rings and are not the best for long term storage. They are meant to keep air and rain out of the container for short times. It is always best to use mylar bags or flat lids for long term storage. The gammas are designed for easy access to open and close. Well, said I, if they are NOT airtight as you say on your response, then they CANNOT be good to "keep air and rain out of the container" NOT even for short times. Oh, well. Too expensive to send it back. I'll have to keep in mind that they are NOT airtight as the company person said.

[@laidtexcom]

I found out another place local to me also sells them here in Canada and also on Lee Valley which have been known to have some good products.

[@amymartin7508]

Appreciate the tip for real! Lol. this is going down as a first attempt here, got a lot of good info here. Thank you

[@lewis9888]

You need to do it video on putting water in the bucket then put the two different lids on two different buckets turn them on their side and see if they leak. Have a Blessed Day.

[@donnakacz6460]

Hi. Thanks for the video. I'm wondering about gasket lids.? Thanks for your help. And once they're opened can they be closed air tight? Love your work.

[@Jenshouseof6]

Thank you for this! I was having trouble figuring mine out. 👏🏼 I put my knee & pressed down hard to get mine on. I'm in the US in California. I got my bucket & lid at Lowe's for a decent price. 🙌🏼

[@TheGadileck]

Hammer sound warning!! Make sure to have your speakers turned down if you live in an apartment, and you don't want to annoy your neighbors when watching this vid at 2 in the morning.

[@GTP20]

Great video, very helpful!

[@joes614]

Welshy I was put in Gamma Lids and a bunch of food grade buckets. I would beat the rings on with the side of my hammer head. Then one would not go on no matter how much I hit it. I took it the bathroom and used a hair dryer to warm it up and it went on easily. Try it on the next time you try to put a Gamma lid on a bucket. Joe

[@Sunshine19773]

im going through this right now .,,. i have no idea how to put thr lids on lol . glad i found this video

[@miriamrobarts]

2:18 A food grade bucket should have a recycling triangle symbol on the bottom of the bucket with a # 1 or # 2. It won't allow as much oxygen transfer into the bucket. 3:30 Gamma Lids - easy to open & close

[@mrs.hudson858]

Thanks, I needed the walk thru ! Got it!

[@danieledwards7178]

I wonder if the Rubber Gaskets should have a thin coating of something like bees wax or baby oil or Petroleum Jelly to keep the rubber soft and pliable... as the rubber will most likely over time , dry out , become brittle and not seal well . I also think it would help in making them even more air tight as a little something on the seal would alow it to set in better ??? Especially for someone looking at storing something for 20-30 years ..

[@oldtimerlee8820]

Be careful. If the gasket is rubber, from what I understand, petroleum based lubricants can destroy it. If gasket is made from other materials, then the lubricant needs to be one compatible with that materials. Plant and animal based lubricants can also turn rancid over time. Further, I don't know that plastic buckets, if not stored in ideal circumstances will last 20-30 years. Depending on what's stored in the buckets, many things won't last that long either. The list is short of foods that have a 30 year life, IF properly stored. I don't know how long Mylar will last, if that's used with buckets. Plastic buckets are porous. How much depends on the plastic being used. Metal and glass may be better options if someone is trying to keep pinto beans for 30 years.

[@aazv23]

Excellent explanation.... Thank You

[@jantellfowler5883]

Well it's surely secure. I was debating on weather to purchase or not. I'm definitely getting them now, looks like they work great

[@Jupitermoon9]

When I pound one side on it pops back up as soon as I try to do another part. Man these are hard. I’m not that strong so that’s why I bought them. The difficulty with the regular lids is too much for me. The gamma I thought would be a better/easier way for me. But man, I need a lumber Jack to get these on. Lol. Thanks for the info!! And Hello Neighbor 🙋🏻‍♀️MINNESOTA here 😊

[@WELSBYROOTS]

Well at least your doing it and not just sticking your head in the sand like alot of people. Thanks for watching and commenting!

[@kathleenscott6957]

Love my gamma lids. I picked up food grade buckets from a local bakery for free.

[@WELSBYROOTS]

When I was living in the city I used to do that. Alot of people dont think about it....smart!

[@WELSBYROOTS]

When I was living in the city I used to do that. Alot of people dont think about it....smart!

[@pinkpigletparker8703]

Thanks for explaining why you can't use a hammer. I'm a woman trying to figure this out on my own so I appreciate it.

[@WELSBYROOTS]

We are all figuring it out together! Thanks for commenting!

[@MariaMaria-sr8zg]

I'm still trying to get one adapter on with a rubber mallet for the gamma lid. My shoulder has a lot of problems. Hoping I can get this done. 5 more after I get this first one on, to go .

[@WELSBYROOTS]

Its not easy but it will never come off!

[@MariaMaria-sr8zg]

@@WELSBYROOTS I'm a little worried because 3/4 of it popped on nicely before I figured out I had a problem and came to look for a way to get the last bit on. If 3/4 of it is All the way on will I still be able to mallet the last 1/4 that is not down in the least little bit? That's all I have been working on is that last bit for 2 days and it hasn't seemed like it has budged at all. Thanks

[@WELSBYROOTS]

@@MariaMaria-sr8zg hit it hard, I remember mine were the same way. But it your that concerned, see if you can start over.

[@MariaMaria-sr8zg]

@@WELSBYROOTS oops. My kids tried to help. One of us broke the adapter with the rubber mallet. I'm going to see if tractor supply will exchange it and see if we can find a happy medium of "not hard enough" to "breaking it". I guess teenage boys don't know their own strength. Never did get it on. But we also noticed the gasket on the screw part was broken and had some brown putty on it after we broke the adapter. Maybe it had been returned before. Thank you. Edited to say we got the rest of them on fine.

[@karend4682]

My question is can you put the food directly in the bucket or did you have to put it in bags

[@isabelramirez4377]

Thanks for info I didn't know how to tell if I had a food grade bucket =)

[@kayakbandits9894]

Do you think this setup is air tight? Ive always used the mylar bags inside a bucket but always wished there was a better way because you waste a lot of space. I giess an easy test would be to seal it with an O2 absorber and check it in a day or 2. Cheers

[@sheilahamilton9088]

Do you have to use the Mylar bags or can wheat berries just go straight into the container with oxygen absorbers

[@wingzrooke9775]

Great video! Thanks for sharing this!

[@WELSBYROOTS]

glad you enjoyed it and thanks for commenting!

[@MaN-pw1bn]

Did you test the buckets for leaks after you put the gamma lid on?? And, are the lids that came with the buckets air/water tight?

[@SpeckledBird1]

they leak water

[@elizabethshaw734]

I just ordered my rubber mallet! :) Also my removing tool

[@pat34lee]

What is it about showing the mirror image of the video?

[@terrischmidt764]

Tractor Supply has great buckets

[@terryw.milburn8565]

I'd be worried in the winter the regular lids would Fail, Not so much with them Super Honkin' Screw Down Lids, Thanks Dave, Hoping All's Well Up Yonder, Friend ! ATB T God Bless

[@discountcodes]

very helpful!

[@ericmckelvey1264]

Great video thank you! Once sealed with the gamma lid, how long is it good for in storage? Also, once opened in order to use, when you use the gamma lid, is it sealed every time for long storage? Are oxygen absorbing packages needed?

[@WELSBYROOTS]

Shelf life depends on what your storing and if your using mylar bags in combination with the containers. Oxygen packs should only be used in mylar bags. Thanks for commenting and watching.

[@WELSBYROOTS]

I keep products like rice, sugar, corn meal ect. Food I know has a long shelf life. We open the containers only to fill smaller ones we use on a daily basis. That way were not opening them up all the time allowing air in.

[@ericmckelvey1264]

@@WELSBYROOTS seems like the wise approach 👍

[@annaleedaughterofyhwh7767]

@@WELSBYROOTS For these staples that you mentioned, do you put those in the bare bucket or do you use Mylar bags inside? Please and thank you 🙏

[@WELSBYROOTS]

@@annaleedaughterofyhwh7767 if you have them use them, use you can store your items in the buckets as is.

[@chrysanthemum8392]

Thanks soooo much!

[@CarlosRodriguez-jj9ij]

Can you reuse the lids after you open them

[@nathangreene2626]

Yes. They don't break when you remove them and you can use them again and again (both types of lids he showed)

[@jorgesantibanez7117]

I just bought 6 Lids at Menards the gamma seal $41.82 $7 each

[@Smarteagle2008]

Nice. Here in Canada at peavey store 16$cad each. Just got 3. I am still trying to get one ring on.

[@kevinwelsh7490]

Doesn't fit! Canadian Tire bucket 12" diameter, Gamma Lid 11-1/2" diameter (gasket) what size are yours may I ask? Thanks

[@Smarteagle2008]

It should fit in. I measured the snap lid with the gamma ring. Both are the same size diameter. I m still trying to snap in the gamma ring.

[@dmcneil7762]

I just simply sent the lid on the bucket flipped it over and then stood on it and with a couple good firm jumps it locked in place... LOL

[@spencerclarke3564]

Plastic buckets only slow rodent Metal buckets stop a rodent.. are these features availabe in a metal buckey?

[@pattynunley5190]

We need a tool to get them off with

[@oldtimerlee8820]

It's called a bucket wrench. It costs only a couple of dollars or so.

[@aunttiasbackyard5028]

how do you wash these? I don't want to damage it in the dishwasher. Will hand washing ruin the seal?

[@WELSBYROOTS]

I hand wash with hot water soap and a little bit of bleach. Then let them dry completely!

[@rad1461]

god damn inflation, literally double the price as what he was saying in the video now in 2023 for just the lid

[@KarlChilders-p5k]

what we need to know..... is those gamma lids LEAK depending on manufacturer, the worse they leak. would have been good to have pointed out here-

[@shaylajay190]

WHEN I PUT MY GAMMA LIDS ON...I HAD TO SIT ON THEM TO MAKE THEM TIGHT...TA DA !,

[@shaylajay190]

WHY DO YOU HAVE TO USE FOOD GRADE BUCKETS IF YOU ARE SEALING EVERYTHING IN MYLAR BAGS FIRST?☮️❤️💥😇🇧🇯🇺🇸🖖

[@MariaMaria-sr8zg]

Not sure of his reason But mylar bags won't keep out any pests/rodents that can chew through a bag. The bucket would help with that.

[@rogerlaurel2363]

Bad advice! Place the adapter on the bucket to match the bucket rim. Use a 1"x6" or 1"x8" board long enough to cross the entire bucket adapter. Kneel on the board using your body weight to push the adapter cleat over the bucket cleat. Turn the board 90º & repeat, kneeling on the board & use your body weight to apply a downward force to the adapter. Beating on the adapter is a very poor solution. This solution works better because the problem does not look like a nail!

[@GuroDon]

Crooked Merchant. Caveat Emptor!

[@brianbell3417]

Total crap product! Every one of the rim/ring split and failed.

[@brianbell3417]

EVERY-ONE of these GAMMA-CRAP lids failed. What a pile of junk! (split rings/fell apart)

[@WELSBYROOTS]

Well thats horrible, I haven't had any trouble with mine at all. Maybe it was the manufacturer, I ordered the ones I use from Amazon.

[@brianbell3417]

@@WELSBYROOTS ME too. They all split after bringing down to México. Called Gamma, tough berries, I was told.

[@WELSBYROOTS]

@@brianbell3417 Well thats ridiculous, the company should replace them. you should do a review on Amazon with photos.

[@brianbell3417]

@@WELSBYROOTS Well, thanks. I buy a product with the hope it doesn't devolve into some nutty goose-chase. I've resigned myself to taking a hit so, that's that. Cheers!

[@cmearls55]

They leak. This video is incomplete. You never demonstrate how well it works. Fill it with water and turn it upside down. The mold marks (ridges) on the plastic lids cause them to leak. If they can't hold liquid they aren't airtight.

[@chocolatelover1679]

Mannnnn - you guys are slow as molasses. Could have done this in 3 minutes ! Still can’t get lid off. Moving on …

[@chocolatelover1679]

Oh yeah…..TURN YOUR AC ON DUDE !!! 🤦‍♀️

[@yoanndesponts4264]

Only shit. Leaks all around the cover! DON'T BUY IT!

[@SaggezzaPrimo]

You should have put in some water and turned the bucket upside down with the gamma lid on to demonstrate if it was truly water/air tight. Another video called "Preppers Beware" showed the mold seams of the lid (not the rim) were interfering with the lid gasket function and the water leaked out. NOT AIR TIGHT as the label claimed, You may have performed a disservice to your viewers and your own credibility.

[@joyanderson2051]

THANKS, ALOT!!!!