Koreans Reacts to Reasonable US Court Sentencing (Cultural Difference)

[@nichochan8681]

Funny thing is, prisoners who assault women and especially children *have* to be separated from the general prison population. Most prisons will have inmates check to see what you're in for, if you're found out to have lied to them when they ask and they see it's that kind of crime you'll be brutally beaten and tortured by the other inmates. It really says something when even the worst variants of society condemn you for that kind of thing.

[@SteveVi0lence]

Nope. Depending on the state, they'll send you somewhere on purpose to give you the real punishment

[@RCXDerp]

@@SteveVi0lence or keep all the kidnappers together for instance

[@maribart4237]

@@SteveVi0lence lol. If only that were true 😂

[@patrioticz2858]

Pedophiles and ex cops probably get the worst treatment

[@killinglonliness88]

I think you mean 'vagrants' not variants. But yes it's very true and proof those are the worst kind of crimes you can commit other than murder.

[@PyroGothNerd]

The officer was probably crying during the sentencing not only because he was going to jail for a long time, but because he was likely going to the same jail as all the people he has arrested over the years. The dude is screwed, and he deserves it.

[@douglascampbell9809]

Correct he isn't just being sentenced to prison. He's being sentenced to solitary confinement for decades because they can't put him in general population because he will be killed. Even in solitary there is a good chance he will be killed by the other people in prison.

[@johncochran8497]

Aka.. Welcome to protective solitary confinement.

[@RCXDerp]

@@johncochran8497 That is not how real life works haha maybe after he gets beaten a few dozen times and is stabbed

[@hkllm9899]

You are actually wrong here. He was crying because he felt it was unfair. There were no evidences pointing to him SA the women. They are all baseless accusations. They even found out that the police went to the women and said if you testify against him, we'd reduce their sentences and stuff. Most of the women who accused him have a criminal history. And almost every woman who accused him, backed out. When asked to describe skin tone of who assaulted them, they all gave different answers. Some said he was black, white etc. Even DNA evidence "against him" didn't lead to nowhere.

[@pansprayers]

He'll PC out. It's mandatory for former LEO's.

[@Raggmopp-xl7yf]

I was on the jury for a horrible, HORRIBLE, sexual-assault trial and we sentenced the animal to over 200+ years - that's how many charges there were! I can tell you that we (the jury) were truly traumatized by the evidence and testimony. It was awful!

[@chago4202000]

It's amazing how terrible some people can be to others 😣

[@lizsays3324]

I hope you were offered counseling afterwards. Thank you for your part in helping the victims get justice and protecting others.

[@mollyapteros]

Thank you for helping protect your community. I also hope you were offered support after being subjected to that.

[@leiajones852]

When I first read this I thought you were the one on trial. I was like how are you typing this then. 🤦🏽‍♀️

[@ShadowMoon878]

Only 200 years? Here in Japan, we would have given him the Death Penalty. Too bad the Americans rewrote our Constitution and scrapped death by Crucifixion in favour of death by Hanging instead...

[@vixiecat]

The thing about the police officer, he wasn’t crying because of the length of time he was given. He was crying because, as an officer, he knows what inmates (in the US) do to sex offenders. The police officer wouldn’t live long enough to see a year inside those prison walls.

[@shemac1482]

I doubt that's why. I'm pretty sure it's cause he was most likely innocent. There's a deep dive documentary and article by Michelle Malkin that details his case, and even the DNA evidence was super flimsy at best. He got used as a sacrificial lamb to appease cop haters at the time.

[@Blu3st4r371]

@@shemac1482 all those people didn’t lie on him Lmaooo he definitely did it and will Spend the rest of his life in jail guilty people cry all the time

[@shemac1482]

@@Blu3st4r371 it's far more likely than you think that those people did all lie. He arrested them all for either drugs, assault, etc. All it would have taken was one person he arrested spinning a story to open an investigation. After that, the investigation approaches those he arrested in the past. Before you know it, there's reduced sentencing deals being made, probation lengths shortened, etc. "Just give us your testimony to help put this guy away, and the state will show its appreciation." I'm sorry but if junkies are willing to sexually exploit their kids for a fix, than other petty criminals are more than willing to lie to get their arresting officer thrown in jail and their own jail time reduced.

[@jamesling2714]

ye cop + sex offender? Even if they put him in pc he gon get stabbed eventually.

[@shemac1482]

@Lockdown Banter and...have you done any research into his case? I have.

[@VadulTharys]

In Missouri right now there is a man who is sentenced to 800+ years. He will be burried in the prison and his family can not retrieve his body until his time is up. Missouri is SERIOUS about you doing your time.

[@58x13]

can you pls tell me the name of this case because now I NEED to know

[@MyMinyWorld]

That’s the most hardcore thing I’ve ever heard about Missouri I-

[@Moples223]

I kinda like that. It works against the abrahamic tards. IOW not me.

[@heheregles]

It’s incredibly likely he will be forgotten and never retrieved

[@christopherbartleson8918]

I'm interested in this, but I can't find policy on this for Missouri.

[@dancingdohl]

In America, the Nth room guy, especially because his crime involved children, would have been killed or tortured in prison almost immediately. They usually try to separate these kinds of criminals for their safety, but being so high profile, either the judge would place him in danger purposely, or a guard would be bribed to not check on him or let him into general population, or the warden would have him placed in a cell will someone who doesn't take kindly to rapists and pedophiles.

[@insertname193]

The cop was given 250+ years for his crimes. You’re given a sentence for each guilty charge and those sentences can run consecutively (back to back) or concurrently (at the same time; if you have a 6 year sentence and a 10 year sentence, you’ll serve 10 years total). It depends on the judge.

[@johncochran8497]

There's also the issue of parole. Frequently, the full term of a sentence isn't actually served due to parole. But if the sentences are served consecutively, then he still gonna be an old old man before getting out, even if most of each term isn't served due to parole.

[@tc-tm1my]

it depends on the crime, the state, and the judge

[@krtierney]

He was an ex cop? The one with over 150 years behind bars.

[@vagabondwastrel2361]

How the sentencing depends on the state more than the judge. Also some crimes dictate the method in states that are flexible.

[@karalindstrom7729]

@Juicy Smooliet's Subway Sammich Rape. not sex if he forced them to

[@Amanda6532]

It would have been interesting to see their reaction to very young juveniles receiving very heavy sentences. That is controversial in the US as well but we have had kids as young as 14 receive life sentences for murder.

[@TheOfficialDirtyDan]

Kids know what their doing so they deserve that sentence then. If you know what you’re doing is bad and you still do it anyways, you should go right to prison if that’s where you get put. Teenagers aren’t as dumb as they seem, coming from someone who’s 19.

[@callmenoona5769]

I think if you are age 14 above you already know and aware of what you doing in term of “hurting “ someone. What I’m afraid the most is that when it come to juvenile if they not made aware of the crime that they did especially if involved someone died, they’ll become a repeating offender.

[@MagicSillia]

@@TheOfficialDirtyDan There are several cases that should have been considered self defense cases though. I have always been taught that if I feel my life is in danger and I am at least in a position where I am able to cause bodily harm then I should, whatever to keep myself safe. I know I am not the only person who has been taught that, but I am not someone who people look at and think "she's up to no good" biggest reason being because I am white. Its good to ask whether someone is in prison because they deserve it or whether they're in prison because someone made assumptions and deemed they deserved it.

[@michaeljames6817]

Well you shouldn't murder people.

[@louisejohnson6057]

There is a man in Canada, who many years ago was charged with the rape and murder of a nurse. He proclaimed his innocence. He was tried for the crime. He proclaimed his innocence. He was found guilty. He proclaimed his innocence. For almost 30 years, he proclaimed his innocence. Along comes DNA testing and guess what. He was innocent. 28 years in prison with actual rapists and murderers. Think about how long 28 years is. It's mind boggling to imagine your life being destroyed over a crime you didn't commit, meanwhile, the real killer is/was still at large.

[@Frostfire613]

I remember that case! The dude was given 3 million dollars in recompense. Not that it makes up for spending literally a 3rd of his life behind bars but at least if he spends wisely, he never has to work again (though it'd be near impossible to find a job after that regardless).

[@angelollanita8494]

@@Frostfire613 Go to south east asia and he can live his life to the fullest with all that money. even if you deduct the whatever tax you have to pay

[@syrinacrockett8290]

I remember sitting on jury for robbery and murder case and it was awful because the attorneys got very detail about case while showing pictures and home security videos of the murder. The one thing I hated about jury duty, but did find it interesting and rewarding when we had to decided whether the defendant was guilty/not guilty and then figuring out the sentencing. The pay wasn’t bad either and being excused from school for a few days since the trial was an all day thing.

[@anaispersephone6041]

I remember watching the movie "Hope" based on that case and the tears just wouldn't stop!!! I was so livid at the sentencing. The amount of pain that little girl had to endure, both physically and mentally is heartbreaking. I don't think I'll ever forget it...justice was not served.

[@Kingdom_Of_Dreams]

Some court videos are hard to watch when the victim was a child, and the abuser or killer is unrepentant. The parent sometimes looks the abuser in the eye and tells them that they hope they rot in hell. It's powerful stuff. I am so glad that the U.S. court system treats child abuse very seriously. Wasn't there a huge child abuse case that circulated around Korea a couple of years ago? What happened to the abuser? Did they receive life in prison, or just a slap on the wrist with a few years jail time?

[@vagabondwastrel2361]

actually child abuse is one of the lower punished crimes. Mostly due to the teacher unions lobbying for the laws to be less restrictive because of female teachers raping their students. They hang the male teachers out to dry in comparison. The only real place they have a harder punishment is by the actual prisoners that find out that they hurt kids.

[@Kingdom_Of_Dreams]

@@vagabondwastrel2361 I'm talking young children, which can be 10 years at the very least in prison. But I'm not sure about older children. You're absolutely right that female teachers get off a lot easier than male teachers though!! People need to wake up and realize that women can be sexual predators too.

[@vagabondwastrel2361]

@@Kingdom_Of_Dreams Oh, you were talking about child criminals. Main reason I brought up the teachers is that most people just don't know how the unions are responsible for lowering the punishment of pedos.

[@dpr_ifykyk]

A case that circulated alot was the Cho Doo soon case aka Nayoung case in 2008 because of what the criminal did to this little girl and only got about 12 years in prison and released just recently

[@icemaun5379]

Fun fact: The death penalty is still in use in the United States and some states such as Idaho and Utah are thinking of bringing back the form of execution through firing squad.

[@wendyraye1]

In the States it's more about the lawyer you have than the evidence. And the average criminal only does about 1/4 - 1/3 of their sentence. A lawyer doesn't have to prove innocence, all they have to do is prove reasonable doubt. The average criminal is also a repeat offender. And any prisoner with life or death sentence has multiple appeals. A large percentage of those life sentences are overturned. Multiple counts or charges are placed on a person in hope that just 1 or 2 will stick. As for sex offenders, the only ones at danger are the ones who go after kids. If they find you out, you are lucky to live. But their are tons of adult sex offenders and sadly a common thought among those type of men in the states is that rape is "just sex" meanwhile the woman they attacked is scarred for life because of it. Truthfully the punishment for sex crimes is not harsh enough and there should be no statute of limitations on sex crimes.

[@patrioticz2858]

7:16 Judges can also remove the ability of parol and increase bail amounts. They also decide the punishment within State and Federal Law

[@angiebear8727]

In America with a life sentence the possibility of parole depends on the state. For instance I live in Maine. A life sentence is just that. The only way to get out is in a pine box. In other states the laws vary.

[@KristenLawson_91]

One thing I like about my country (America) is teens can be tried as an adult. I'm shocked there are countries such as South Korea that has a juvenile system where they basically get off free, even if a child/teen steals, murders or rapes someone. And the amount of years adults receive for murder, stealing, etc. I get they're looking at a persons life span/'human rights' there, but a criminal who commit serious crimes such as murder or rape should have a life sentence or the death penalty.

[@patrioticz2858]

5:04 when he said not guilty he was talking about that specific charge. Some of those charges he was found not guilty. It also depends on the state if the years accumulate or just use the time of the highest sentence. Ex-Police and Pedophiles probably have it the worst in prison.

[@Dano12345100]

The people who commit crimes such as murder or rape of children don't last long in prison unless kept segregated because most of the other prisoners have children of their own. If the other convicts have nothing to lose because of a life sentence then they take care of the one who did the serious crime against a child.

[@armadillotoe]

The prisoners in America often get out early. An extreme sentence will tend to keep them in prison for a reasonable time.

[@swoesteban5570]

Sexual predators who are released from prison, are legally mandated to register as sexual predators, as soon as they move into a new area. This allows the police and people in that neighborhood, to properly supervise the predators and protect the children from potential dangers.

[@angelfrance1595]

Woah, what??! A teen commiting murder just did community service? In my country, the teen will end up in juvenile prison then send to prison when he/she comes to a legal age and would serve the sentence of murder as an adult. The punishment is very light, it doesn't even hold justice especially for the victim. I hope S. Korea would strengthen the punishments appropriately.

[@shanewelch3629]

They think the descendants of murders deserve life sentence even know they had nothing to do with the crime?! What kind of insanity is that. Holy shit.

[@pinkpepperedsquid756]

Maybe it was a mistranslation

[@ttrruaminpn5755]

She said "If one commits murder, maybe not as harsh as death sentence but at least deserves life sentence." Clearly translator or producer wrote their own fcked up fantasy cuz no one in Korea thinks like that.

[@msl1689]

I think maybe it was a typo. Defendants instead of descendants.

[@justthetruth3950]

The translation is wrong

[@ac1455]

@@msl1689 makes sense that’d be autocorrected incorrectly or the translater mixed them up since they sound somewhat similar

[@mesCheerios]

prison is meant to reform not just be an eye for an eye type thing. And the courts do not always conclude with the correct verdict. Certain things are illegal at one time like marijuana or "sodomy" and are not at another time. For the above reasons and more, the death sentence is not good, and pollutes the attitudes of citizens. Let's aim for more clear sighted and compassionate societies, not vengeful societies. I say this as a victim of repeated abuse who did not get any justice. I wish the perpetrator was in gaol so that others were safe from him but i wouldn't wish death sentencing, even in my angriest moments. I also wish freedom for all the primarily poor black people in usa gaoled for dealing weed. It's extremely unfair. The system should not become a criminal itself.

[@moon_0207]

the attitudes kind of say a lot like whether they were remorseful or not, but you're right, no matter if they were or not, it doesn't change what they did.

[@aspannas]

They're never remorseful really, they're crying for themselves

[@moon_0207]

@@aspannas true, a lot of them show remorse and regret only after they were given their sentence. I bet a lot of them wouldn’t feel remorse or regret if they weren’t caught.

[@prosegold]

For what it’s worth if you really look at the Daniel holtzclaw case there were a lot of holes in it . A lot of his accusers were attracted by some sort of cash settlement by the state so if course accusations were coming from all over the place . Whenever you advertise a possible imbursement for being the victim of a crime millions of people are going to say they were victims at some point

[@AJ-ut8cz]

Killing someone by throwing rocks out a window as a kid isn't murder, it's negligent manslaughter. And children can't be held to the same standard because until a certain age kids don't know their actions can lead to someone's death.

[@GorgieClarissa]

They knew what they were doing. Kids aren't stupid. Throwing rocks out of a building, you know it's going to kill someone. It's not unintentional. Therefore, murder. Not 1sr degree, but still murder.

[@bastobasto4866]

@@GorgieClarissa good luck proving that in court "Throwing rocks out of a building, you know it's going to kill someone." ???

[@Borjgali]

"kid" just mean below 18 or 20 in korea for instance. And last researches in psychology show that 2years old kids can distinguish fairness, so the understanding the concept of right and wrong.

[@kirayoshikage1491]

6:15 this is because sometimes people can return to court and lose some of their sentences while in prison, so making many sentences instead of just the total helps ensure they serve time

[@ninajones1175]

That last one deserved every day and never to breathe free air again and he abused his power as a police officer and did these horrible acts as an officer not just average civilian which would have been bad as well but to abuse his oath to protect and serve? I feel not the slightest sympathy.

[@MyMinyWorld]

And because he targeted a specific community of black women who were already distrustful of the police, it just made tensions worse… He’s from OKC, and me and my family have lived here all my life. I’m white, so I can’t understand the full extent of the nervousness black people may feel around police, but being a fellow woman and knowing that there was a monster like that on our police force was absolutely sickening. I want to trust that the force is there to protect us, and I’m glad the justice system got this scumbag, but it makes you wonder how many other abusers there are who get away with it because they wear a badge and their victims don’t think anyone will believe them. I can’t begin to describe the relief I felt when they started sentencing him and I knew he’d be off our streets for good.

[@mylifeasamy5691]

I live in Louisiana and we have Louisiana State Penitentiary aka Angola Prison, the largest maximum security prison in the US. I believe it currently has over 6,000 prisoners, most won't ever get to leave. The nearest town is like 20 miles away.

[@Moples223]

It's no Alcatraz..

[@James130141]

“The degree of civilisation in a society can be judged by entering its prisons.”

[@Spoopball]

I think the purpose of specifying each account of the crime and the relation of the time served is to make it easier for appeals/turnovers/reduced sentencing. If more information comes out on each and every crime, the time can be adjusted for each one

[@razorburn7745]

They’ll reserve a cell for the additional 150 years after his death. In the year 2246 the janitor will finally have permission to sweep his mummy out of there.

[@bobhager41]

The last guy who got 100 years was a cop

[@snowhibiscus]

It's called the criminal justice system, there is rarely any justice for the victim.

[@leiajones852]

“What a scumbag” omg when he said that I immediately started thinking about k-drama 😂😂✋🏼 also why was the first girl putting her hair in a bun like she was finna fight the judge 🤦🏽‍♀️

[@jonathonfrazier6622]

Wait, did she say the descendants of killers deserve life sentences?

[@oo-bz2xv]

IT is subtitle typo. She said defendant not descendant.

[@BakedPotato0630]

The first girl that was laughing was high on Xanax and a few days later she apologized to the judge and he reduced her overall sentence. Also Yebin is CUTE 😍

[@takumi2023]

I've seen all the videos they shared. Fml I live on KZbin. Just fyi, you can get concurrent sentencing where the jail time is counted at the same time for different crimes (not for this case but other cases) concurrent and consecutive are the two different sentencing possible in us court.

[@dailymarbaniang7079]

What about human rights for victims. Well said👏

[@commanderpinkie7617]

There’s no comments I can see, which is why I comment this. Hello, have a great day/night! Keep hydrated and know things will eventually get better!

[@steffensegoviahelbo5065]

very interesting. Regarding the last bit they talked about. I can understand the lure to think that justice is about punishing the criminals. and I can also see why people would think that the death sentence could be an acceptable punishment for very heinous crimes. However I still believe the society in general is better of when the punishment is the sentencing it self and the Justice is about reforming the criminals to become productive members of society. and While people who did crimes that people think should be punishable with the death sentence I can very much understand it. however we live in a imperfect world and the death sentence is impossible to reverse or at least release a person from after the fact. Therefore I cannot see anything good coming out of the death sentence. no matter how good a justice system you have innocent people risk getting caught in it. and if even just one innocent person is given a death sentence it doesn't matter how many got the death sentence correctly because 1 person was innocent and nothing can bring that 1 person back to the living after their execution.

[@mar_man813]

Exactly. The justice system in the USA was never originally intended to be punishment. The goal is either rehabilitation or removal from society. Rehabilitation is important because 99% of people incarcerated eventually leave prison -- wouldn't you want them to be less dangerous at that point? And second, for removal, these are life sentences or death penalty. Obviously there's a debate on whether one should receive life without parole or capital punishment, but both accomplish the same goal.

[@burstingwizard975]

What about all the times murderers or rapists are spared the death sentence and get out of prison only to commit more rapes or murders? I would bet a lot that the number of lives saved by destroying murderers is greater than the number of innocent people who have been executed

[@steffensegoviahelbo5065]

@@burstingwizard975 well it might well be but it doesn't change that any 1 innocent killed by a death sentence is not able to get back to life when the mistake is realised. If your idea is that the death sentence is replaced with letting them walk away scot free that is... I didn't say abolish prison sentences.. Hell keep life in prison for the worst ones. Advantage is that if a mistake is found you can always say. Sorry and release the innocent one and compensate them the years waisted. Not that it is perfect, just a heck of a lot better than permanentely killing someone random

[@mar_man813]

@@steffensegoviahelbo5065 He's not reading what you wrote, so why bother responding. You and I are clearly flagging the reality that most who enter prison eventually exit, so the goal for most is rehabilitation. He's commenting on capital punishment -- it's a red herring.

[@burstingwizard975]

@@mar_man813 What I said isn't a "red herring", it was a legitimate point worthy of consideration that people like you never seem to consider. Some people are too dangerous for rehabilitation to even be considered. If you swap out the "punishment" model for the "rehabilitation" model then you will end up with murderers and rapists being released back into the general population, going on a crime spree and ruining innocent people's lives all because you were too cowardly to risk collateral damage

[@patrioticz2858]

6:41 in the US there is Maximum and minimum sentencing so for example let's us a fake one like let's say theft is 5 mouths to 5 years in prison. The judge takes into account I the defendant feels guilty or not along with other things to choose the sentence but a judge didnt decide whether they are guilty or not, the jury does that in criminal cases, the judge just chooses the sentencing based on laws, their opinion and the recommendations of the Attorney General's office

[@yadiaag7771]

In Korea smoking, possessing or selling marijuana is on average two years in jail or whatever, but killing a person is about three. Sexual assault is about three Any assault can be settled with money. Not in the United States, yes there’s some cases you can settle but things like child abuse, aggravated assault, and murder is not an option. WTF is wrong with the system

[@stick7223]

yeah weed needs to legal everywhere. this world needs to wake up and see how dumb they look having alcohol legal but not weed even though zero deaths have ever happened from weed and millions of people have died from drinking and other people drinking

[@areyoudumb4372]

@@stick7223 while I agree weed should be legal, it definitely has caused deaths. And we should acknowledge that.

[@thesunexpress]

Sometimes the Judge can get really angry with law enforcement systems too: kzbin.info/www/bejne/oamXeYqgm52ti5o Longer version: kzbin.info/www/bejne/gpfMan5sZsx4rq8 Denigrating arrestees during preliminary detention should never be tolerated.

[@Natepwnsu]

If you commit a violent crime and there is proof without a shadow of a doubt, and it's a life sentence, you should be executed. People have gotten soft , it's causing a void in society where good people suffer and bad people go unpunished.

[@batlanterns]

i agree there should be punishment but how can we condem violent crime such as murder and then collectively decide murder upon this person. there is a moral disconnect in this line of thought.

[@jlastre]

The first case that woman is not a minor. She repeated acted like the court was some big joke. The judge is well known. He sits as a judge in Dade County Florida. The third case is notorious because the defendant was a *police officer* when he committed all those sexual related crimes. He did it to his prisoners. He apparently thought nothing would happen to him as he was a well known college football star and his father was also in law enforcement.

[@sevvforshort5597]

Being convicted of rape and alone going to jail is a death sentence. Because the inmates will beat them to death on occasions and guards sometimes do nothing.

[@rachelxu8229]

If you're old enough to know how to work the system, then you're old enough to know the severity of your crimes.

[@Forced2DoThis1]

Did anyone bring of the fact that those sentences can be "suspended", "served concurrently", "served consecutively", combinations there of, etc?

[@awkwardcutie]

My view is a bit different but let's just say I'm Scandinavian and you'll probably know what opinions I have about it However even I think our sentencing is way too weak... And I believe that we should try to get people back into society (ofc some people shouldn't) but like crimes still need their punishment

[@joshuam8444]

Are there updates regarding Nth room? I know they just released a Netflix documentary about it. I wish they just approve the petition to release the names of the ones who bought and watched those videos, and participated in the chat rooms. It wouldn’t be impossible to think that some public officials or celebrities were involved. Also that show she mentioned is really good.

[@이기통-f2h]

200 years? can someone actually break guinness world record of the oldest man alive in prison?

[@trash-3058]

A lot of juveniles don’t get a criminal record here either People get away with horrible crimes (like rape and assault) with what seems like a slap on the wrist compared to their crimes so it’s definitely not the best There’s a lot more I could talk about but I’m tired so I’ll spare everyone 😭

[@felixrivera6051]

Criminal minds in law and order are good show to watch

[@teresalangford5721]

The police officer got 254 years.

[@Heyguhh]

7:28 PREACH!!!🙏🏾👆🏾

[@nicolaspeigne1429]

Next video, introduce Koreans to Florida man

[@followthecrown1122]

Now I would love to know their thoughts on Florida man 🤣

[@chrisc1914]

Welcome Yebin!

[@aces1127]

Should check out some of the children criminals. Most are generally guilty till they turn into adults. But some are charged as adults and stay in jail for a pretty long time

[@kuravle008]

As an indian, I feel india sometimes has too lenient punishment for horrible crimes. No wonder r*pes dont decrease and the assaultants are still alive and well fed instead being removed from earth. And I feel korea also has leniency for r*pe crimes and juvenile crimes especially if the assailant is rich or has some political connections. But the worst thing in korea I read is that victim is criticized for the crime.

[@DUDEfreestyle]

In some states in the US a juvenile who committed murder can get juvenile life.

[@teresalangford4608]

I think That cop was a Oklahoma state highway patrol......or an OKC police officer.

[@ailaarmstrong2375]

In America most criminals were “hurt” as kids so if your crime has ANYTHING to do with kids especially “adult activities” you will get beat up, stabbed, etc.

[@GOffUnit]

The best argument I've ever heard against maximizing the severity of criminal punishments is that doing so disincentivizes criminals from holding back from doing even worse. For example, if the punishment for rape were life in prison or the death penalty, then a man who commits the crime might decide that since getting caught will end his life, he may as well murder his victim so that there are no witnesses to the crime. He may still be convicted of murder, but if the punishment is no better or worse for either crime, then it makes no difference to the criminal. At that point, he is only incentivized to get away with his crimes.

[@GorgieClarissa]

That isn't a good argument. Many rapists have even stated that they are rapists, but could not murder. Also, the overwhelming majority of rapists are from someone you already know. Personally I view rape = murder. The victim, if they survive, has to live with that for the rest of their lives. It's easy to make such a comment if you have never been raped. A rape victim/survivor would never say this is a great argument. It actually incentivizes rapists to rape more since they know their punishment will be so severely reduced.

[@GOffUnit]

@@GorgieClarissa I'm sure many rapists would have said they could never rape before they did it, too. There are other comparisons to be made, and maybe I shouldn't have used rape as part of the argument since it's such an evocative subject, but I really don't see how it's deniable that more severe punishments for crimes incentivize criminals to continue committing crimes or take extreme measures to avoid being caught. If it's all the same to the justice system, why stop? If the goal is to punish people for committing crimes, then harsher punishments will accomplish that, but if the goal is to deter criminal behavior then harsher punishments will have the opposite effect.

[@be3469]

@@GOffUnit Honestly, I feel like neither extreme is good. A too lenient punishment seems to incentive as much as a too harsh punishment. In an ideal world we'd have a perfect middle ground. The difficult thing about that is, according to just general discussions with friends, each person has an upper and lower threshold of what they think is too much or too little punshiment. I think we need to run multiple, ethical experiments and statistical analysis on US prisons to see what we can draw from punishment times, rehabilitation programs, and repeat offenses. Amongst other points of data. Then we could at least get substantial evidence to back the topic discussed here.

[@mattc2824]

The criminals who are guilty deserve 100s of years as a sentence...their families do not

[@vagabondwastrel2361]

Judges actually can't just increase the sentencing if the person convicted is rude to the judge. That is just begging for an appeals court reversal. The way crimes are handled in America depend on if it is a federal crime or a state crime. Each state can have their own methodology. Minnesota is kinda bullshit. If you are convicted they will tack on lesser included crimes with the similar fact patterns so that if you win an appeal you could destroy your case against one of the lesser included crimes. Then you have the way they function with time in prison. You can get like 9 counts of 15 years but they are all served at the same time instead of them getting stacked together for life. Wisconsin doesn't have a death penalty so all murder cases pretty much get tried because there isn't a reason to not roll the dice. They also have cash money bail so you have to pay in full not just a percentage. Where as other states you can just pay a lesser amount to work your job until conviction.

[@valleriechepkemoi9234]

You should have asked them if they have watched the kdrama taxi driver it's amazing they take revenge for victims

[@drpigglesnuudelworte5209]

The cop is crying bc 1. How long his sentence is 2. He going to the same prison he put everyone else in 3. He knows what inmates do to sex offenders 😂 4. He never thought he would get caught

[@G11713]

The USA's justice system does not seem to have made it safer. On the contrary yer has the highest incarcerated population and practices the death penalty.

[@christinaify]

@7:31 are the subtitles correct? She believes the children of murderers should receive jail time regardless of involvement in the crime?

[@tipennya]

Lol! No, it should be 'defendants'! Damn Google translate! 😁

[@brittk3881]

Jesus christ, how many people did he force himself into? Absolutely disgusting

[@williamtell5365]

They will throw you in jail in Korea for smoking weed.

[@GorgieClarissa]

The sound is really bad in this video. I can't hear the video clip because the sound is too quiet. But if I turn up my sound, the Koreans speaking are too loud.

[@SteveVi0lence]

That's right, punishment..... By math!

[@-JA-]

👏

[@policis]

If someone, kills or abuses my kids. I am willing to go to jail, because i don't care how much planing or time it will take, but I will have my revenge, because yes I am that kind of guy.

[@stick7223]

I'd stab my thumb through each of their eyes. imagine living blind because you wanted to touch my kid lol. theyd regret it for the rest of their lifes and will be reminded about it ever wakening day.

[@callmenoona5769]

The thing about child offenders, for me if they certain age like 13 above they (in my pov) aware what they are doing especially if it “ hurting “ someone. The thing is if we didn’t make the juvenile offender release about how serious it is the crime they committed , they’ll become a repeating offender. And by the time they did go to jail many lives has been ruin bcs of it. And also if we not to careful it is can ruin the child (offender) life when they can actually change but yeah human is hard to guess.

[@JwinBaby]

What’s up Broski 🦋’.

[@littleshrimp6679]

I made the horrible decision to look up the cho doo soon case and I'm pretty good with graphic details but this made me sick

[@trash-3058]

I don’t like the death penalty mainly because I want them to suffer in prison for as long as possible Plus it feels wrong since your punishing them for a crime while sentencing them to death (a crime)

[@ApexRoyals]

America is actually quite a dangerous country to live on due to all the weapons and drugs and that is why we are so strict and relentless.

[@MainDoorFrames]

those were good ones, system's still broken af

[@jamesclancy8091]

When the young woman said adios to the judge she was making fun of him because of his ethnicity.

[@linoscult5251]

what kinda bs did u hear, that judge was in the wrong regardless, all she said was bye

[@jamesclancy8091]

@@linoscult5251 so is it ok for people to make fun of you because of your ethnicity?

[@carenna1220]

@@linoscult5251 you have to be trolling

[@linoscult5251]

@@carenna1220 cry

[@joquitasullivan6353]

What's the life expectancy in a South or North Korean Prison ?

[@DonFatherTrump]

4:41 Wrongful conviction. That man was railroaded.

[@esthermitchell7164]

They make a great couple. I would enjoy watching sungwook and yebin again..

[@Personalaccount1627]

263yrs

[@sethhardy866]

I think for all the years thing is that if you could live that youd be in prison for that long. ... Plus women get it easy for any crime. If the man and women were to steal 10,000 bucks. The guy would be sentenced for 6 or more years. As the women would be less than half of years by the most. Or be pit parole... The United states is the only country of my knowledge that imprisons children 😎 ... Also the death penalty is still being used. ... However, out of all the states only 5 will/could be shot to death by 5 cops. Each individual will be given live and blanks so as they spend their mags they won't really know specifically if they are the ones that cut the individual down.

[@Wirmish]

Prison = $$$$ So the Korean government don't want to spend too much on its penitentiary system.

[@perseph0ne1608]

The officer one was actually very suspicious. All I know is that there was some suspicion about the evidence and some of the story did not match up. But they still sentence him to jail, so it might be a false sentence, or that man got what he deserved.

[@frogsnack7072]

Good video. This one couldn't have been easy to make. I pray that we all come to the knowledge of how our sin hurts others around us and not just us, so we may truly repent and trust in Christ Jesus, who has paid the price - for the punishment of sin is death. As he rose from the grave and defeated that death, we can be free of eternal damnation. That's a sentence I wish nobody had to die with.

[@gitikei1155]

한국의 법은 변호사가 돈 벌기위해 존재합니다.

[@grizelguinevere8590]

kinda sad.. I'm trying to hear the video clip what it said, but then both of them scream to my ear.. the difference level of loudness of the voice of the clip and both of them is kinda hurt my ear.. ☹️ at least put subtitle to the clip..

[@SincerelyGeet]

The 1st 1...was she drunk?🥴

[@mase7557]

The victims have no rights

[@choiyena9263]

i luv criminal uwu

[@chrisadler69]

tl

[@guy6561]

LMFAO ''reasonable'' the US sentencing system is terrible

[@whatwhatinthewhat4400]

3:23 not even smart enough to act remorseful?