Fool For Your Loving Bass Cover

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Neil Murray, himself, was kind enough to leave a comment on the video.
Be sure to visit his channel and subscribe as he has plans to do some play-alongs/demos/lessons? of his own to some of the incredible bass-lines he's written.
Here's the link to his channel - / @neilmurraybass
“Fool For Your Loving” by Whitesnake off of their album, “Ready an' Willing” which came out in 1980 and featured Neil Murray on bass.
I often say, "I don’t take requests, but I will sometimes take suggestions." “windk100” left this comment on my “Street of Dreams” cover last week, “If you haven't already, do you have any plans to do a cover of Whitesnake's "Fool for your Loving"" - the original 1980 release? • Whitesnake - Fool For ... Thanks for considering it!”
I always try to check out the suggestions I get, but if a song doesn’t immediately grab my attention, I’ll pass on it. If I’m going to spend the amount of time that I do, learning the song and getting it to the point where I can play it straight through without making any glaring errors, I have to really like it. Every so often the suggester strikes gold. When I clicked the link I immediately liked what I heard. It sounded like Bad Company on steroids to me…not that I’m a huge Bad Company fan, but there was something I really liked about the song…and the bass-line. It chugs. It walks. It’s got quick-twiddly bits. What’s not to like?
This version was recorded by the earlier version of the band which featured 3 former members of Deep Purple.. The Whitesnake I’m most familiar with is the 1987, super-group version which I was not a big fan of. You know…the Tawny Kitaen writhing on a car hood and the Rudy Sarzo licking his bass neck Whitesnake? (not that I’m knocking Rudy Sarzo, I think he’s great, especially on Ozzy’s live “Speak of the Devil” album) That, later, version of the band might not have been the catalyst for the whole “hair-band” movement, but they certainly gave it a big push forward.
The bass-line has some very quick, articulate and tasteful fills that I’d associate more with prog-rock or jazz than I would a fairly straight forward rock song. Each pre-chorus and chorus is played slightly differently which took a bit of memorization. As I was listening to the song, I’d note each tricky lick and think, “Well, that’s going to take a bit of effort.” and it did.
- The riffs at 3:04 and 3:11 are very close to what he is playing rhythmically, but I changed a few of the notes to something I was more comfortable with in order to make the riffs a bit more clam proof (it really sucks to make a mistake that close to the end of the song).
- Also, at 3:15, I’m pretty sure that he played both the high, fretted D along with the open D as I did. It just doesn’t sound as clunky as when he did it.
- The two notes that follow the D-Octaves were inaudible (on what I’m listening to it on, anyway) but I figured, since he was moving up the fretboard, so would I, to complete the line.
- I’m not sure, but something makes me think that he’s playing a fretless on this song. I don’t know if that’s something he was known for.
- As the song neared the end I heard those quick rakes and was like, “Really? You couldn’t just lay back a little and take it easy during the fade out?”
I’m playing the first Guild bass that I got a few years back. It started it’s life as a fretted B-302A (the “A” is for “Ash”). It had been converted to a fretless when I bought it and I had frets reinstalled not long after I got it. It was also a 2-Pickup model which, like my Ric, I did not care for, so I had the neck p/u removed and had a new pick guard made by a company called “Chandler” which has templates for just about any guitar or bass you can imagine, even some real oddballs. I ordered a B-302 guard but asked them not to cut out an opening for the neck p/u.
Here’s a link to their site - www.pickguards.us
The bass also has a Babicz 3 Point replacement bridge as well as a Zero-Mod Thumb-rest.
www.zero-mod.com

[@neilmurraybass]

Good work Troy! One day I'll put up my own video, though it's very hard to play the whole song straight through 100% as I did on the album. Some of the comments are gratifying, some are annoying - one thing I'll say is that in those days the producer, Martin Birch (Deep Purple, Iron Maiden and many others), wasn't a dictator as some are, more someone who would let the band members do their thing. (For those who prefer Still Of The Night-era Whitesnake, FYI it was me on that album too, not Rudy Sarzo).

[@TJH3113]

Wow! Thank you so much for honoring this thread with your presence. That is an incredible bass-line you composed and it was a real challenge to figure out, memorize, and play to. Of course, I needed to cut a few corners here and there. I'll be sure to subscribe to your channel to be sure to catch that video when you post it. And I'll be sure to list your channel in the info section beneath the video. I truly hope the gratifying comments far outnumbered the annoying ones. If the annoying comments had to do with any critique of the "Still of the Night/Sarzo credited" version, I'd venture to say that "that" version's bass-line was just far more sanitized, homogenized, and commercialized than the version I covered. But, as you said, that's what some producers do. This bass-line has a real edge to it...a spontaneity and controlled chaos. You just don't hear bass-lines like these being written and recorded these days, or sitting so prominently in the mix either. Were you credited on the liner notes of the album? Wikipedia listed Sarzo. Shame about that if that is the case. Can I ask, did you play a fretless on it? There are a few parts that made me think that you did. Again, thank you so much for your comment.

[@neilmurraybass]

Thanks for the kind comments Troy! I was made aware of your video by a thread discussing Fool For Your Loving on the UK set Basschat.co.uk. To clarify: I didn't mean that I played on the remake of Fool on Slip Of The Tongue (though I wouldn't be surprised if Steve Vai had played all the bass as well as the guitars on that album) but that although Rudy Sarzo is in the videos for the 1987 'Whitesnake' album, I play bass on the actual recordings - many people who only discovered Whitesnake in 1987 don't seem aware of that. I previously recorded (audio only) a note-for-note bass track for Fool, with just sampled drums, but that took many drop-ins and retakes - it's very hard to play the whole thing through without deviating, and when I play the song live it's never exactly like the original. Sorry if people think it's too busy - tough!

[@neilmurraybass]

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[@joaocarrieri335]

Neil Murray, one of my inspirations to choose play bass guitar! Greets from Brazil!

[@mimoochodom2684]

Legend.

[@comfibold]

Never easy to play a Neil Murray bassline. You did a great job. Bravo!

[@TJH3113]

comfibold , I’m not sure if this was one of his best basslines or just a typical bassline for him. Either way, it was a bear to learn and play. I’ll have to look up some more of his work. Thanks a lot.

[@lonnegan_rock]

The most faithful playing of one of Whitesnake's best bass lines. I've always liked Murray's style. Also, I have to say that you have a great feeling playing. It shows that you like what you play and not only limit yourself to imitating what is recorded.

[@TJH3113]

Thanks so much! Did you see that Neil Murray actually commented on the video?

[@feedsoal]

As someone that restarted playing recently after not playing bass in years thanks to university, professional exams and postgrad studies, this is the kind of bass line that motivates me. Beautiful, tricky, requires a lot of practice... But if someone can play it, I can play it too, and I'll keep practicing until I finally can play along with you in the video. Thanks for sharing your amazing job!!!!

[@TJH3113]

You’ve got the perfect attitude. Start with the first note and work your way through it to the last. It’s going to take as long as it’s going to take. Take care!

[@fenp77]

Superb bass line played with style and flair and omg you got ALL of the details. Sterling work and greatly appreciated.

[@TJH3113]

Thank you very much. I tried with all my might. Thanks again.

[@umgl940]

Wow! That was a complete pleasure. Thank you!

[@TJH3113]

umgl940 Thank you very much, I’m glad you enjoyed it.

[@windk100]

Thanks for fulfilling my suggestion, TJH3113! I'm glad to have helped connect a great song with a great player! Superb job, as always!

[@TJH3113]

It was really my pleasure. Thank you for the stellar suggestion! Now I've got to dig a bit more into Neil Murray's catalog.

[@dalebergkvist]

Neil Murray's playing is just incredible. Blows my mind every time. Thank's for the play through, good work!

[@TJH3113]

Couldn't agree more! Thanks Daniel!

[@vlobster7660]

man that bass fill at 1.22!!!........superb and original!!

[@TJH3113]

Yeah, that's a cool one, isn't it?

[@onesixfive]

I am not a Whitesnake fan but I was aware that they were a legit hard rock group proceeding the aforementioned hit from the late 80s. And I stress the word ‘aware’, because I certainly never did seek out any of the material to confirm. This is pretty much what I figured it would sound like, and it isn’t bad at all. But the bass - whoa. Now that is unexpected. What a great groove the whole song has. I agree with your ‘couldn’t you just sit back’ sentiment toward the bassist. As I said on another one of your videos, I’m almost surprised a producer didn’t try to reel the guy in. Not that it isn’t awesome it it almost seems more appropriate for bass nerds than your standard listening audience for this kind of thing. Great cover! Thank you!

[@TJH3113]

Based on my opinion of the Super-Group version of the band I never considered going back and checking out their earlier catalog. I wish I had. I agree, this is a fantastic bass song. I was thinking the exact thing you were, about a producer just picking all the cool bits out of Neil's bass-line and just leaving the skeletal core in its place. Either the producer was asleep at the wheel or he recognized the greatness the bass player was putting forward. Thanks a lot!

[@ferox965]

Early Whitesnake was amazing, before they got glossy and overproduced...Hell, they were 3/5 Deep Purple at one point. The original version of Here I go Again kills the one that got all the radioplay.

[@kennet7837]

So much great going on in this bassline!

[@TJH3113]

Right?

[@WillianBerriel]

Troy, the bassist's jedi. When I grow up, I want to play bass like you.

[@TJH3113]

Aw, you're too kind.

[@scrpnvmbr]

May The Bass be With You

[@ASTOUNDEDatSTUPID]

What a treat for me... To discover the replies and compliments of Mr.Murray to you. Reading - watching the two of you converse and the intermittent chime in from us fans ... My first Whitesnake album I bought in 1980 when I was 19 yrs old . Thanks fellas!

[@TJH3113]

Wasn't that something? How cool was it for Neil Murray, himself, to join the party? Those things happen every once and a while and it's always a big thrill for me when it does. Thanks!

[@mikearks2665]

Excellent TJH3113 thank you!! Neil Murray is an excellent bass player one of my favorites

[@TJH3113]

Thanks, I'm glad you liked it...Yeah, Neil is great, isn't he?

[@stevenelich9936]

TROY SOUND REALLY SOLID MAN KEEP UP THE GREAT BASS WORK.

[@TJH3113]

Thanks a lot!

[@EnergyAndLightAwakening]

AAAAHH good ol memories lol. Thank you Troy❣️🤘😍

[@TJH3113]

Thank you, I'm glad you liked it.

[@TheDp1965]

Great job Troy. Super Groovy job!!!! Awesome!

[@TJH3113]

Thank you very much.

[@wilbertcook5076]

Beautifully played Troy . Gave me another song to practice. Thanks for the posting my brother ✌🏻

[@TJH3113]

Wilbert Cook, thanks a lot. It’s a great one. Have fun!

[@amaralroberto4999]

Great job TJH, just like you always does.

[@TJH3113]

Amaral Roberto , thank you for the kind words.

[@Quintellectual]

Great cover. Never a big fan, but you’re correct. This incarnation of the band was much more down to earth, gritty r-n-r. Great playing as always and analysis of the bass line. Very cool. I needed a smile today. Thanks man.

[@TJH3113]

Thanks a lot. I'm glad you liked it.

[@Ale3202]

Damn, easily the best cover of this song on youtube! Thank you for your awesome playing!

[@la196]

Not many can top a TJH cover that easily:). It just pours out of his soul:)

[@TJH3113]

Thanks to both of you.

[@rayjones3212]

Quite impressive - as usual. You sure do make those bass guitars sing and super song! Thanks for sharing your talents with us.

[@TJH3113]

Thank you very much for the kind words.

[@GuitarBassCigar]

Another great post, Troy Thanks for playing for us again.

[@TJH3113]

Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment. It was my pleasure.

[@marvinewilliams8281]

Perfection! I like the explanation also. Good rhythm Troy! Marvine :-)

[@TJH3113]

Thanks Marvine.

[@pjferrari6093]

evert time i m not sure playng in the right way a song i hope find it on your channel ! So if i m able to learn it i m sure its right . Imnot a principiant' n i m not so young unfotunelly , i was kids when i saw whitesnake on Ready an willing tour . thanks troy and thanks mr Murray .

[@TJH3113]

That's great to hear. Thanks for the vote of confidence.

[@jackketch2]

Great job Neil Murray is one of the best rock bassists I've heard

[@TJH3113]

TRUTH

[@THEATREofPAIN270]

Killer cover my good dude. I remember when Whitesnake hit the scene. I was an instant fan. Long Live Whitesnake.

[@TJH3113]

THEATREofPAIN270 , Thanks a lot, I’m glad you liked it.

[@daveswallow8351]

Great playing, I love Neil Murray bass parts, love to keep you warm one of my favourites!

[@TJH3113]

Thank you kindly! Thanks. Yes, Neil is an incredible player, isn't he? I'll have to look that one up.

[@ericwWu]

It'd be nice to see how you create these covers right from the beginning... Like, (re-)hearing the songs, drawing the tabs, testing, playing, perfecting. Cheers from Brazil!

[@TJH3113]

A video like that would be tedious for all of us. I take a couple of different approaches and each song dictates the way it is going to go. Sometimes I'll learn my way around the difficult parts and then go back and fill in the blanks. In this case I, for the most part, learned the song sequentially, meaning that I would not move on to the next part of the song until I'd grasped the part before it. For some reason, I found the intro challenging which meant that I played it around 100x...haha. It felt like 100x anyway. With some songs I will blend both of these processes.

[@windk100]

@@TJH3113 Very insightful. Thanks for sharing! One of the few time I recorded myself playing bass: it was "Another Brick in the, Part 2". My then five year old daughter was bouncing and dancing on the bed to the song! ;-)

[@vlobster7660]

I love that bass line at 3.33.....it's so Geddy!.I don't know what it is but i always relax watching your videos....there's a quiet zen quality at work here...that and amazing prowess on the bass.What a sound and balance...never heard a duff sound balance.I don't know how you do it as it can't be easy or other videos would sound as good...which they are not.Great stuff Troy.And you've educated me into learning about Mr Murray who im ashamed to say i'd never heard of.Cheers man!

[@TJH3113]

I guess it is, isn't it? I may appear relaxed on the outside, but there's a lot of tension going on within. It takes many hours of practice and repetition to get the songs to this point - where I can play them through without making and glaring errors. I could probably make my life a lot easier if I learned to edit the audio and video, but that seems like more of a headache than how I am doing it now. As far as my "sound and balance", it is, for the most part, dumb luck. I just set the level of my bass just above the bass on the recording and press "record". I don't tailor my sound to the recording and that's why some come out sounding better that others. Thanks so much for the very kind words.

[@vlobster7660]

@@TJH3113 Hi Troy....i've been asked to play this with a band im messing around with and will study your work here.Can i ask what is the procedure you go through from scratch.Do you listen to the original first or go through loads of live gig footage to get the spirit of the song.I mean some of the subtle bass lines you have added to this is better than the original in my eyes...no offence Mr Murray.Does it take days or weeks?.Your attention to detail is renowned and respected on many bass forums....i know you'll hate me mentioning that ha!. Thanks for sharing your work once again.

[@TJH3113]

Hello Jon. Thanks for the tough question. I'll try to answer it the best that I can. Every song I sit down to learn takes its own path. Even if I think I am going to approach it a certain way, often I am wrong. There are essentially 3 approaches I take when learning a song. 1. Learn it note for note from beginning to end. Proceeding no further than the point to which I've learned every note and phrasing. Mind you, I said "learned", not mastered. 2. Learn the general structure and main elements of the song and then go back and fill in all the details. 3. Some combination of 1 and 2. I will never look at live footage. For what I do on my channel I'm only interested in the bass line as it was recorded. Most guys go way off script on the live versions. My philosophy has always been, "If a song sounds great, it's because the player/s played certain notes, in certain sequences." If I am going to try on Superman's cape, I'm not going to alter it in any way by changing its color or length or whatever. A guitarist I played with for many years when I was younger had a similar philosophy and it was not a good time for some of the people we played with in cover bands, I am sure. I understand that this is not the only way to approach learning someone else's bass-lines. It's just the way I've always done it. As far as learning stuff to play live, it might be a bit of a waste to pay so close attention to such minute detail. 00.01% of the audience will ever notice or appreciate it. I have a playlist titled, "Learned For Live" where I address this. While I appreciate the compliment about the subtle changes I add, those are only the result of my failure to capture exactly what was happening on the recording. As much time an effort as I put into learning these song, I am not perfect and they are still only my interpretations of what I am hearing. I would never be so arrogant as to think that I might actually improve upon any of the bass lines I've covered by altering them in any way. Often, if I do make some sort of change, I will note it in the text beneath the video. Though perfection is what I strive for with my covers, I would be the first to say that I am not perfect. Some songs take days, some take weeks, and some take months. Learning them is one thing, getting them to the point where I can play them all the way through without making any glaring errors is another. If a particular player's style is more in line with my own, things go a bit quicker. If the style or genre is a bit more alien to mine, then time is added. Years ago, I did a cover of "King Henry's Madrigal" and I actually kept a diary of how long I spent on learning and rehearsing the song. I forget how long it took, but I was surprised because it seem much shorter that it should have. It was a tough piece. Maybe I should do something like that again. The "Bouree" cover took well over a month and was, one of a very few, that I almost gave up on. Another really tough one was "Nantucket Sleighride" by Mountain, but that wasn't so much a case of difficulty, as it was a case of differing playing styles.

[@daveg1431]

very nice indeed, and the mask collection on the wall too.. i'm learning it right now to cover the song with the band, thank you so much for your guide

[@TJH3113]

Thanks. Most of the masks are from DeathStudios.

[@pag3309]

Awesome cover!!!! Whitesnake is underrated!!

[@TJH3113]

pag3309 Thanks a lot!

[@Dallinillad]

A beast as always. I love it. 10/10

[@TJH3113]

Bill Mitchell , Thank you so much!

[@henrikcarmel1]

Even though i later became a metal guy I still cherish the blues rock years of whitesnake - witnessed countless concerts in Denmark and Germany. This bass was on the spot 👍

[@TJH3113]

Thanks so much, Henrik. This was a lot of fun (and work) to put together and the fact that Neal Murray joined the thread made it even more special.

[@outtayardstudio]

I watched this with a constant grin on me face. Twice. ......played the crap outta that 🎸🔥

[@TJH3113]

That's great to hear! I'm very glad you liked it. This was a fun one.

[@MrClassicmetal]

I ended up here after listening to the song on youtube, and being in awe by the bass line. After which I looked for bass covers. While reading through the comments section of the Whitesnake song I noticed that a _lot_ of other people were also impressed by Neil Murray's fantastic playing. And that sound! It's really distinct with that growl, and it stands out nicely in the mix. So he obviously did something right that stood the test of time, and that's probably an understatement. Anyway, that's a _great_ performance sir. You've really nailed that one. And I really like your sound too. 🤘🏼 You've got a new subscriber.🙂

[@TJH3113]

Very cool. Yeah, I was amazed when I heard this version of the song. I was brought up on the commercialized/MTV version. Truth. Thanks so much and take care.

[@chrisnichols175]

That's some great bass playing man keep up the good work

[@TJH3113]

Thanks a lot, but we've really got Neil Murray to thank for writing such a great line, don't we?

[@santiguerra8949]

You should do a video show all your bass guitars. Great video as always

[@TJH3113]

I'm actually holding off selling some of my collection until I get around to doing that. I just hate making those sorts of videos and have been procrastinating. Thank you.

[@la196]

My goodness, this one is out of the archives! Haven't heard it in years. Love that part at 3:30!! BTW, not sure if your aware, just absolutely ridiculous skills Troy:)

[@TJH3113]

Last week was my first time hearing this version. Yeah, that is a cool line, isn't it? Thanks for the kind words.

[@marvinewilliams8281]

Troy, I just can't get enough of your videos!!!!!! Magical!!!!! Love it!!!!! Marvine :-)

[@TJH3113]

Thank you Marvine.

[@ozanyeşildal]

lovely bass, cool playing, nice and easy 👊🙂🤘

[@TJH3113]

Thanks a lot, Ozan!

[@marvinewilliams8281]

Groovy, groovy groovy my friend!!!!!!!! You're the best!!!!!! Marvine :-)

[@TJH3113]

Thank you.

[@marvinewilliams8281]

Great job Troy!!! Lively and spirited. Thanks for sharing. Marvine :-)

[@TJH3113]

Thank you Marvine.

[@Rebel-Rouser]

What a wicked ass bass line! Neil Murray!!!

[@TJH3113]

It is, isn't it? The Man!

[@vladimirharnisch2264]

Buenas tardes. Excelente gracias profesor 👍

[@TJH3113]

¡Hola! ¡Muchas gracias!

[@RoadKing-ky2bs]

That Guild has a really nice sound. It is edgy and has a lot of low end punch. It reminds me of a Music Man a lot.

[@TJH3113]

2016 Road King, I really like how the Guild basses sound. I think they have a little more mid-range than my MusicMan.

[@RCAvhstape]

Sounds way better than a Music Man to me. Also, it is a good looking bass, unlike the Music Man with that hideous toilet seat pick guard. Just my worthless opinion...

[@RoadKing-ky2bs]

@@RCAvhstape toilet seat cover lol. I never thought of that but you are right in that regard. Yes I agree the Guild is a nice looking bass; however, I do like the looks of the Music Man as well (even with the toilet seat lol). My opinion is pretty worthless too :)

[@TJH3113]

We all have our preferences and, while my MusicMan doesn't get much play time, I still think it's one of my best built basses (though, because it's a 5 string, it lacks the "toilet seat pick-guard"). One thing that I really do like about MusicMan basses is their distinctive look. When you see one, you immediately know what it is. As for the Guild bass, I'd never call it a "nice looking bass". I like its quirky appearance. Back to MusicMan for a moment...I find it amazing that Leo Fender could, essentially, invent the electric bass, go on to create another 2 different companies, and still come up with somewhat unique designs for his instruments. Why is it that 90% of the other bass makers have difficulty coming up with something that really sets itself apart in appearance from a Precision or a Jazz Bass?

[@RoadKing-ky2bs]

@@TJH3113 you are spot on about Leo's iconic design that most everyone idolizes and copies in some degree or another. Personally for me I love Fender as that was my first bass I bought in 1979: a 1967 Jazz. I have the Jazz Elite V I purchased last year and I love it. My second favorite is the Music Man Stingray. Again, it has the classic styling of Leo's designs following the Fender line. Then a very close third is the Rickenbacker, although I never owned one. Well, there are so many good basses out there nowadays that it is hard to go wrong, even a sub $500 budget bass like Squire and Ibanez are completely gig level ready if that is all one can afford.

[@marianokronen7420]

Brilliant bassline, brilliant played, always pleasure haear troy's bass 😁

[@TJH3113]

It is a great one, isn't it? Thanks so much Mariano!

[@davethemofo]

Love this version. Just has a harder feel to it than the '87 version. Ever thought of doing Animal by Def Leppard?

[@TJH3113]

I feel the same. I'm not familiar with the song, I'll try and check it out.

[@Natbmval88]

Whitesnake classic one. I LOVE THAN I USUALLY PLAY LOOKING FOR LOVE. CONGRATS MAN YOU ARE INSANE.

[@dannyeglen4750]

So clean as always Troy! Not a band I'm really familiar with but early Coverdale has a great voice.

[@TJH3113]

Danny Eglen , thanks, I think so too...Coverdale’s is classic.

[@ferox965]

Coverdale is way underrated as a singer. Whitesnake up until they got glossy and overproduced was just awesome...Check out the original version of Here I go Again.

[@dannyeglen4750]

@@ferox965 I have heard the original version of here I go again, with the amazing Jon Lord and I definitely prefer it to the 80's glam version.

[@dannyphillips995]

Nicely played ! Sorted out some issues for me too and nice to hear it in the original key . Thank you!

[@TJH3113]

Thanks a lot. I'm glad you liked it.

[@no1boatgirl]

Hats off to you as always!

[@TJH3113]

Thank you kindly.

[@joseandrada264]

Superb

[@TJH3113]

Thanks 🤗

[@noifcustoms]

How did I miss this?! Awesome song and cover! I'm jealous of your collection of basses (and talent) lol

[@TJH3113]

Thanks so much!! How cool was it that Neil Murray himself left a comment?

[@noifcustoms]

@@TJH3113 I saw that! Maybe Steve Harris will see my Maiden covers! Equally as cool as you subbing my channel! Ha! Thx btw

[@jobass]

Great cover, beautiful bass line.

[@TJH3113]

Thanks. I agree.

[@seanmalthouse]

This is hands down, one of the best bass lines ever created. Have recently acquired the album on vinyl and it hasn’t been off my turntable since. The version with Steve Vai playing guitar just doesn’t groove like the original.

[@TJH3113]

Agreed.

[@mimoochodom2684]

Classic. Well done.

[@TJH3113]

It is, isn't it? Thank you.

[@willyork7297]

You’re a really good bassist, man. It’d be cool to see you cover some Van Halen tunes

[@TJH3113]

Thanks a lot. I did "Mean Street" a while back.

[@CindyDC]

💕

[@vlodpg]

Inspiring! Back to my P bass I go.....

[@TJH3113]

Great to hear!

[@jupiter7x7]

Awesome cover! Neil Murray is amazing, one of my favorites. The song Nighthawk (Vampire Blues) has another fantastic bass line. Please give it a listen. Thanks for the cover!

[@TJH3113]

Thanks. Yeah, he's something else. I'll be sure to check that one out. Thanks again.

[@jupiter7x7]

TJH3113 Great! Used to cover Nighthawk with my “band” back in my college years (what seems like centuries ago). Thanks again for your channel, it’s so good and inspiring!

[@nelsoncabral3310]

Inspiring! Congratulations

[@TJH3113]

Thanks! I'm glad you liked it.

[@arourtutor8833]

I can't eventually this part! So we'll done

[@TJH3113]

Thanks!

[@MrPearlcz1]

Mint!

[@TJH3113]

Thanks!

[@arourtutor8833]

You are sooooo good!!!

[@TJH3113]

Thank you very much.

[@ZeroMod]

I came for the Guild, I stayed for the Troy "edu-tainment" you unfailingly offer in the song write-ups!.... Thanks for the nod and shout out about ZM to "The Troy Society" - GUILD POWER \m/

[@TJH3113]

Right on!

[@lartensgrill6106]

Excellent cover

[@TJH3113]

Thanks.

[@ATG913]

Damn! Well done!

[@TJH3113]

Thanks.

[@jezanias1000]

Perfeito 😮

[@TJH3113]

Thank you Nika!

[@PookBidault]

I've come to conclude you have too many Guild basses. You need to give me one. Now.

[@TJH3113]

For your information, I only have 6 Guilds with none to spare.

[@PookBidault]

@@TJH3113 Oh, sorry, my bad. I thought you had seven.

[@TJH3113]

No problem, it was an honest mistake.

[@menom7]

WOW,such an AWESOME (and tricky to play) COVER Troy!!! You mastered this one wonderfully!!! The irony to this cover is...........not even 48hrs. ago..............I was on KZbin here,PLAYING the 1987 video (Yup,THAT ONE!!! Lol.) "Still of the night" and Yup.........I admit it,I was a Whitesnake fan back then (my brother threw his newly bought Whitesnake tape at me,when he caught me listening to it in his room,and told me to just keep it!!! Lol. Which I DID!!!) And despite this being a cool ass video.......The song itself was good to,as it went in different directions with it's melodies and pace of the song. ANYWAY........I've always Loved EARLIER Whitesnake stuff too,so was Happy to watch You do this one!!! GREAT JOB Man!!! :)

[@TJH3113]

Thanks. Yes, this was a tough one for sure. Honestly, I could have easily spent another week with it but I was fairly happy with it as it was. I'm glad it coincided with your trip down memory lane. Thanks once again.

[@TheEssexCat]

Rather excellent

[@TJH3113]

TheEssexBeast ,Thank you.

[@ASTOUNDEDatSTUPID]

Nice! Also are the instruments you impliment . that Guild is a beauty. Great flourishes! I wonder, are you local 44 (southwest Ca.) sculpture?

[@TJH3113]

Thank you very much. I am a big fan of the Guild basses. No, I just collect masks and other horror related items. Take care.

[@marvinewilliams8281]

Troy rulesssssssssss!!!!!!! :-)

[@GiammarcoZacheo]

Great right-hand muting technique. Troy is a talented player, and he looks a lot like the best manager I've ever had at work :)

[@TJH3113]

Thank you very much for the kind words. Now, if you could get back to work that'd be great.

[@GiammarcoZacheo]

@@TJH3113 Yes boss, ehm, sure boss.

[@B0uff0s]

cool stuff

[@TJH3113]

It is, isn't it?

[@mharclerode]

Nice tone!

[@TJH3113]

Thanks.

[@dzonitestament6567]

hey man great cover, realy nice tone, will you do a tutorial how to play that bass line i've been strugling to play it for a month now.

[@TJH3113]

Thanks a lot. A tutorial would be tough. From what I remember, there were a ton of subtle differences between each verse and chorus that took a ton of time to commit to memory.

[@dgcmusi]

Great Playing Troy..

[@TJH3113]

Thank you.

[@hiramkhackenbacker]

I’ve met Neil Murray and he’s a thoroughly nice chap. There is a thread on Basschat where he gives some insight into the recording of the song. www.basschat.co.uk/topic/219645-fool-for-your-loving-whitesnake-help/

[@TJH3113]

Wow, that was really cool of him to chime in on a thread that was getting out of control. He made some really interesting points in his comments - "I can see I'll have to do a note-for-note demonstration! Although when I've played it in the last 15 years, I've tried to stick to the recorded version, when I recorded the song the fills were just improvised, so on another take they would have been different. If it's played too fast, which is often the case, some of the fills become impossible to play properly, which is frustrating. Although I am not an expert jazz, blues or funk player, I had enough of those influences to bring some of that to my rock playing, particularly in 1978-82 Whitesnake, as the songs allowed for interesting bass parts. When the songs don't permit that style of playing, which is mostly the case, I have to be more straight-ahead. Neil"

[@hiramkhackenbacker]

Well, I have to say, he’s just that kind of guy. A warmer and more enthusiastic exponent of the bass you could never wish to meet. I’m absolutely certain that he would wholeheartedly approve of what you’ve done here Troy. I’ll paste the link for your video in that thread and see if he picks it up. As always, I wish you both all the very best and long may you continue your bass journey. P.S. Do some Bowie, any Bowie. Just do one. Please 🤞.

[@TJH3113]

hiramkhackenbacker He certainly comes across that way through his comments. I did “Ashes to Ashes” a long while back😬. Any other Bowie suggestions? Thanks for the kind words.

[@wilmafsc1962]

Bom demais!

[@TJH3113]

Obrigado!

[@tantemathielo8709]

muito bom (very good)

[@TJH3113]

Thanks, Tante!

[@Seawhaleorgonite]

this makes me love the bass guitar like a fat kid loves cake.

[@TJH3113]

I'll just call you Bruce Bogtrotter then!

[@ralphbenitez4407]

Since you take suggestions? How about, Falling off the edge of the world”? Off of Black Sabbath’s Mob Rules album with Dio. Great bass line. Thanks for all the videos, I enjoy them all. 🤘

[@TJH3113]

I will check it out. No need to thank me, I really enjoy learning the songs and am glad that you enjoy the videos. Thank you.

[@stonerking78]

You rule, as Always.

[@hemelhempsteadherts]

Great stuff as per always. Two songs containing fantastic basslines for your consideration both originally played by Simon Gallup. 'Fascination Street' by the Cure, or 'Push' by the same band.

[@TJH3113]

Mario Pinelli, thank you, as always.

[@windk100]

Hey Troy, not long ago you replied let you know if you can be of any help. Well here's something I've been thinking for a while. What scales, patterns, etc do you recommend for helping learn a song like this and other walking bass lines, such as James Jamerson on I Was Made to Love Her? I'm getting better at moving up on the neck to hit octaves and slides. Sometimes I can get in the groove and it seems like second nature but often it just doesn't feel very natural to move to different neck positions. I do better with songs that are very repetitive and stay mostly in the same position such as Billie Jean and Caribbean Queen (I love it). Thanks for any tips!

[@TJH3113]

Hello. I'm sorry, but I am, essentially, musically illiterate, especially when it comes to walking bass-lines. I am able to figure out what someone else has played, but I'm just imitating what they have done. Honestly, I couldn't write a walking bass-line if my life depended on it and it's one of the reasons you'll probably never hear me cover a James Jamerson song. My "Heaven On Their Minds" cover was a real labor of love... essentially a walking rock bass-line with endless variations... this one too. There may be a few things I might be able to help you out with, but this isn't one of them. Thanks and take care!

[@windk100]

@@TJH3113 I'm essentially the same. I prefer to play by ear and figure out things that way but sometimes it's frustrating. I'm trying to pick up on common patterns. When I started on the guitar a long long time ago, I kept on seeing tips about the Blues pentatonic scale, which I assume can essentially be applied to a lot of Rock, R&B, classic pop music bass lines. Can definitely hear and see it on Cream's Sunshine of Your Love. If I learn more, I'll let you know, Troy. Thanks! Kyle

[@songoflovemetalofficial]

you mut be bass teacher

[@TJH3113]

Actually, no.

[@Reptile8740]

And I solid bassline I recommend you just take a listen too is Eminence Front by the who. Probably one of the best entwhistle basslines in their discography.

[@TJH3113]

Actually, I never really cared for that one.

[@movinginstereo40]

Just a suggestion coming out of south Mississippi. A Rolling Stones tune from 1980 Tattoo You album. Little T and A. I believe Keef actually played the bass on the original recording. Nothing difficult or unique but still a kick in the butt quintessential rock and roll song. But it’s just a suggestion. Thanks for your entertaining uploads. Curtis

[@TJH3113]

I will check it out but I can tell you that I am not in any way a fan of the Stones.

[@movinginstereo40]

Yeah, there are a lot of Stones songs out there that have been worn out just like Lynyrd Skynyrd. I get it. BTW those Guild basses definitely cut through the mix and stand out but I still love the ole standby Fender Jazz bass tone. Hope everything goes your way and have a great weekend.@@TJH3113

[@Reptile8740]

Hey how's it going. since I didn't see it in the catalogue, I have a suggestion you might dig. Its 'straight on' by Heart. Its a solid grove with a variety of fills.

[@TJH3113]

That's a good one. I make a mental note every time I hear it on the radio then forget all about it. Thanks for the suggestion.

[@ianinfinity380]

So accurate.. Troy.. Does that Guild has the same pickup placement as your Aria bass?

[@TJH3113]

Thank you. I’m not sure about the Aria, but it has the same placement as a Rickenbacker’s bridge pick up.

[@ianinfinity380]

@@TJH3113 thank you, I'm finding basses with just one pickup in that position to be more interesting. And you found a way to make them sound so great and even similar to a two pickup setting.

[@bubblesvampire7575]

I'm sorry... What did you say after Tawny Kitaen? 😛 I've never really cared for Whitesnake either but I'll confess that's quite a bass line! Thanks as always for sharing.

[@TJH3113]

Haha! Thanks a lot.

[@wilfordgrimley4339]

I've been following you for awhile man killer stuff. You should do times up by living colour.

[@TJH3113]

That's great to hear, thanks. I will check it out. I actually have a Living Colour cover put to the side - "Open Letter to a Landlord".

[@wilfordgrimley4339]

@@TJH3113 amazing song man. Muzz was special

[@bapt_andthebasses]

I've always seen that you tilt your fingers so that they're not perfectly perpendicular to the strings, sure part of your signature playing! But by doing so, you are bending your wrist. I'm sure that you don't suffer from it or else you wouldn't not do it all the time!! But why don't you try the symmetric angle, which would follow your forearm continuation? I'm not sure to be clear, please forgive if not... :) cheers Troy, amazing cover as always :)

[@TJH3113]

I understand what you're saying but I'm pretty comfortable this way. It's not terribly far off from the position I'd be playing in if I were standing. Are you referring to my left/fretting hand position? As you can see, I go to great lengths to make sure that my right wrist is not bent too severely by raising my arm at the shoulder. It may look tiring but it is really just second nature at this point.

[@colinwilson8523]

Nicely done again Troy .... Murray played this .... just like this.... live ..... all whilst prancing round the stage perfectly coiffured and spandexed ..... quite a feat ! I'd like to give you a thumbs up for this but apparently you have a "hideous lack of groove" (do we think you've caught your single thumbs down avenger? lol) ... i'll be back when i've stopped laughing ! Also that Guild gets more and more growlier (is that a word?) .... what strings are you using?

[@TJH3113]

Thank you. I'll have to see if I can find a clip of that. I understand completely about withholding your thumbs-up. Yes, this is he of whom I spoke. I'm pretty sure he has another account so he's always able to give me, at least, two thumbs-down (and his own post, at least, two thumbs-up). He really brought out the worst in me one day a few years back on Facebook and he has blocked me...can you imagine? Someone blocking "me"? Anyway, it appears as if he's off his medication and is trying to verbalize his dislike for me and my playing. I could have easily put a stop to the "thumbs-down" thing by blocking him, but who am I to stifle another person's voice...or thumbs-down? If things go as normal, he will start attacking those who came to my defense, at which time I will most likely block him. This bass has a slightly deeper, woodier tone than the other Guilds for some reason. Possibly the Ash body? Or the new frets? This has the same strings I have on nearly all my basses, D'Addario EXL220's

[@colinwilson8523]

Sorry Troy I've had a look for a clip but in me old age i can't remember exactly where i saw murray play live (there may not have been video invented back then ha ha ) .... it was in the late 80's of that i'm sure .. possibly "ready an willing" tour?. definitely not 1990 at donnington cos that was Rudy Sarzo If i find anything i'll let you have the link

[@StormwatchGR]

Great as always! "Journeyman" from Jethro Tull plz! Thanx!!

[@TJH3113]

Thanks. I'll check it out.

[@Lydirius]

I hate to admit it Troy, but I've never heard this song before. Simply yet funky. I like that. I know you don't like requests, so how about this? What is it that excites you about a bass line? Is it the groove? The difficulty? Phrasing? Odd time signatures? Please share . -Mike

[@TJH3113]

Don't feel bad, I hadn't heard this version before last week either. What excited me about this bass line? It was a combination of the bass line and the song. The way the song started got me interested...like I said, "...Bad Company on steroids". It just had a cool hook and sound. Then his voice came in and, while I'm not a big fan, I think that Coverdale has an iconic Rock voice, not unlike Paul Rogers. Then, the bass started branching out, walking off, and playing some really melodic lines and tricky riffs. After that, I was hooked.

[@hiramkhackenbacker]

@TJH3113 - Troy - Neil Murray has checked back into that thread I sent you the link for with some thoughts you might like to give your advice on.

[@TJH3113]

I will take a peak. Actually, he left a comment on this thread earlier today. What an honor. I'm working my way toward responding to it. Thank you for the part you played in that.

[@paulmedina108]

Congratulation for this excellent cover! I’m looking for the music sheet, could you help my to find it?

[@TJH3113]

Thanks, I'm glad you liked it. I'm sorry, but I don't have tabs or sheet music. I play by ear and memory. If I had them, you would be most welcome to them.

[@michelvieira5301]

Ohh yeah lml

[@TJH3113]

Thanks.