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@FoolishBaseball
@FoolishBaseball 2 жыл бұрын
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@JonJones-2
@JonJones-2 2 жыл бұрын
no
@EyeOfThePhi
@EyeOfThePhi 2 жыл бұрын
feels pretty racist to single out one umpire who is a BIPOC
@talon6097
@talon6097 2 жыл бұрын
@@EyeOfThePhi what
@EyeOfThePhi
@EyeOfThePhi 2 жыл бұрын
@@talon6097 He's literally sh*tting on one and only one ump pretty much the entire video some guy named angel hernandes. You really think that's on accident?
@bonquishquish21
@bonquishquish21 2 жыл бұрын
@@EyeOfThePhi hahahahahahahaha
@phunq9087
@phunq9087 2 жыл бұрын
Pat Hoberg finally delivered his perfect game IN THE WORLD SERIES!!! What a legend!
@nicholasadams2374
@nicholasadams2374 Жыл бұрын
And what a time to call the perfect game!!!
@Lionlover666
@Lionlover666 Жыл бұрын
Foolish bb called it
@cynicanal111
@cynicanal111 Жыл бұрын
Hoberg is the GOAT.
@theapologist6717
@theapologist6717 Жыл бұрын
And it was in a game the Phillies lost.!
@caseydearmitt8653
@caseydearmitt8653 Жыл бұрын
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@SummoningSalt
@SummoningSalt 2 жыл бұрын
We need to start implementing umpire perfect game alerts into broadcasts. Imagine the hype when the first one is finally performed. ... well, I'd be hyped at least.
@stevenhuber4335
@stevenhuber4335 2 жыл бұрын
I like having the knowledge that Summoning Salt is a baseball fan
@belacickekl7579
@belacickekl7579 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe you two could do a colab if it does!
@FoolishBaseball
@FoolishBaseball 2 жыл бұрын
Yes but you can't say "perfect game." Just have to be like "he's uhhh, calling a good zone out there."
@LGPanthers1
@LGPanthers1 2 жыл бұрын
lmk when you speedrun being able to curl 30 lbs
@defn0tjake
@defn0tjake 2 жыл бұрын
You, Bailey, Jon, and Alex
@SetTheEdge
@SetTheEdge 2 жыл бұрын
Umpires being too shy to make impactful calls is hilarious considering their chosen line of work. All officials get too much hate and not enough credit no matter the sport though. Great video, I have a weird urge to go form a union now.
@FoolishBaseball
@FoolishBaseball 2 жыл бұрын
Huh. Weird. Well enjoy forming your union! Just weird how you got that idea from this video.
@zed6563
@zed6563 2 жыл бұрын
As an umpire, the most nerve racking situation for me is trying to make calls with a full count in a high leverage situation. Even if it's just a 12u tournament game, I don't want to feel responsible for one team losing
@StefanWB
@StefanWB 2 жыл бұрын
It's a real thing. The number of penalties called in NHL games in the regular season and the number of penalties called during the playoffs is massively disparate, and that's not because there aren't penalties to call. It's long been an axiom in hockey culture that in the third period of an elimination game in the playoffs, you practically have to decapitate someone to get called for a penalty. Now granted, in the vast majority of cases, taking a man off the ice for 2-5 minutes impacts a game of hockey more than one called ball or strike affects a game of baseball, but the principle is the same.
@lordmalkom1675
@lordmalkom1675 2 жыл бұрын
Same for Football (you call it Soccer). There was Collina, he stood in front of the best and richest players and stared them down. He was always right and then they rarely argued with him. Now the Referees are scared... No good Referee in years :(
@keskesportsandgaming524
@keskesportsandgaming524 2 жыл бұрын
@@StefanWB I watched game 6 last night and the refs were crap, we should have a game 7, but the refs didn't do it
@dirtaylulu
@dirtaylulu 2 жыл бұрын
Angel Hernandez is truly an inspiration, he didn't let his blindness stop him from achieving his dream of being an umpire for MLB.
@Cody70858
@Cody70858 Жыл бұрын
Peak
@stevenhetzel6483
@stevenhetzel6483 Жыл бұрын
Hes kindof a genius. Only a few jobs in the world you can have where if you fuck up you ruin thousands of people's day, and still have a job the next day. Meteorologist, sports official.
@MrXup123
@MrXup123 Жыл бұрын
@@stevenhetzel6483 politician as well
@blantant
@blantant Жыл бұрын
Dude. Can't say that. It's Racist
@janetegama5093
@janetegama5093 Жыл бұрын
Lmao
@rpsnider85
@rpsnider85 2 жыл бұрын
And HES DONE IT. Pat Hoberg called a perfect game...in the World Series no less. Truly a demon back there. His accuracy rates have gotten better over time, I give him leeway as he was starting out and that accounts for the lower average. It seems he's also over 98% nowadays though. Dudes just extremely good at his job, in a job that's not only quite difficult but one in which a lot of his fellows are shit.
@musicdecoded4092
@musicdecoded4092 Жыл бұрын
but a lot of his fellows arent that bad, even the worst umps are right 92% of the time
@protectdavidchasetaylor2144
@protectdavidchasetaylor2144 Жыл бұрын
@@musicdecoded4092imagine if your taxi driver only made the right turn 92% of the time
@musicdecoded4092
@musicdecoded4092 Жыл бұрын
@protectdavidchasetaylor2144 thats pretty fuckin good numbers. Imagine if the shit you said made sense 92% of the time
@alexdeghost2729
@alexdeghost2729 Жыл бұрын
@@musicdecoded4092 Except Angel Hernandez
@davidlibby5430
@davidlibby5430 10 ай бұрын
Better keep him away from Angel Hernandez, he would screw him up for life!
@jonahgavino6532
@jonahgavino6532 2 жыл бұрын
“Did you put that ball into the Goblet of Strikes, Angel?” Schwarber explained calmly.
@FoolishBaseball
@FoolishBaseball 2 жыл бұрын
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@MidwestArtMan
@MidwestArtMan 2 жыл бұрын
This made me imagine a large cup behind the plate that umpires ceremoniously place baseballs in if they're called strikes. I like it.
@jasondyrkacz8270
@jasondyrkacz8270 2 жыл бұрын
Schwarber was pretty calm considering it's Angel Hernandez.
@sirfallsalot2000
@sirfallsalot2000 2 жыл бұрын
No sir!
@crushedscouter9522
@crushedscouter9522 2 жыл бұрын
this made me laugh too hard for some reason
@teddyconover1619
@teddyconover1619 2 жыл бұрын
Foolish Baseball makes the modern game more understandable, enjoyable, and thoughtful. This guy is a master at content creation. We are truly lucky to have him.
@FoolishBaseball
@FoolishBaseball 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the kind words! I wouldn't be able to do it without your viewership.
@mr.silbergleit5724
@mr.silbergleit5724 2 жыл бұрын
up there right alongside jomboy
@vader_OG
@vader_OG 2 жыл бұрын
@@mr.silbergleit5724 so much better than jomboy
@mr.silbergleit5724
@mr.silbergleit5724 2 жыл бұрын
@@vader_OG nah they both great in their own right
@SteefPip
@SteefPip 2 жыл бұрын
One of these days this channel is going to catch fire and be one of the biggest baseball channels on youtube.
@maxp2305
@maxp2305 2 жыл бұрын
I have to be honest, that one "miss" by Hoberg is an entirely forgiveable call. It's close enough where nobody's really going to complain, especially given the circumstances (first pitch)
@edgyanole9705
@edgyanole9705 2 жыл бұрын
@fouoii gyhh begone bot
@rampage_360bobamusicandoth4
@rampage_360bobamusicandoth4 2 жыл бұрын
@@edgyanole9705 he's just trolling bruh
@edgyanole9705
@edgyanole9705 2 жыл бұрын
@@rampage_360bobamusicandoth4 no, what are you talking about
@PuchuKt
@PuchuKt 2 жыл бұрын
@@edgyanole9705 oh, is it one of those bots that copies other comments trying to fit in?
@edgyanole9705
@edgyanole9705 2 жыл бұрын
@@PuchuKt yeah
@Veaseify
@Veaseify 2 жыл бұрын
13:03 - so glad you mentioned that Pitch Framing 'has always been a thing' - some media outlets make it seem like it was something that arrived with the internet. I have a book from 1986 called 'How To Watch Baseball' where players explain the 'inside baseball' things that fans should watch for. In the chapter on Catchers, Lance Parrish of the Tigers and Jody Davis of the Cubs explain how to make balls look like strikes by framing - and they were taught how to do it by guys that were taught how to do it 30 years before.
@J.C...
@J.C... Жыл бұрын
Nah. Their framing and today's framing aren't close to the same thing. Not even a little.
@Nolan33177
@Nolan33177 Жыл бұрын
It’s always been there since the first. Catcher caught a close pitch and moved it quicky
@iPizzaHead
@iPizzaHead 2 жыл бұрын
All hail our lords and saviors Pat HoBOT and Wohn Wibka!
@FoolishBaseball
@FoolishBaseball 2 жыл бұрын
I think I'm an "ALAN PORTER FOR CREW CHIEF" man myself.
@iPizzaHead
@iPizzaHead 2 жыл бұрын
@@FoolishBaseball you are also not wrong. Just more names for this Pantheon of illustrious individuals!
@FiddleSticks03
@FiddleSticks03 5 ай бұрын
@@FoolishBaseball he is a crew chief
@PaulieWalnuts1776
@PaulieWalnuts1776 2 жыл бұрын
My favorite quote on Angel Hernandez that I take no credit for: If Angel Hernandez had another eye, he’d be a cyclops.
@BaseballAF
@BaseballAF 2 жыл бұрын
Its about time that Pat Hoberg got the recognition and respect he truly deserves.
@intsoccersuperstar1
@intsoccersuperstar1 2 жыл бұрын
I haven’t liked a Pat H. this much since Pat Hingle.
@tw1nn319
@tw1nn319 2 жыл бұрын
right hes the actual goat of umpiring and he gets almost no recognition and even a lot of the most seasoned mlb fans dont know his name
@cellamuert
@cellamuert 2 жыл бұрын
think jomboy gave him some cred a year or two ago. it was some ump, pretty sure it was hoberg. it was the first time i ever saw the umpire scorecard twitter
@tw1nn319
@tw1nn319 2 жыл бұрын
@@cellamuert that vid was about Libka, also an amazing umpire but much less experienced than Hoberg
@ocoop
@ocoop 2 жыл бұрын
he’s trending now!
@zachchavernay1223
@zachchavernay1223 2 жыл бұрын
And now he’s done it in the World Series. Congratulations Pat Hoberg.
@TimMitch13
@TimMitch13 2 жыл бұрын
Bailey’s prediction coming true at 15:53 only a few months later PROVES that he actually is a time traveler
@TheArodfan13
@TheArodfan13 2 жыл бұрын
Bailey, I just wanted to let you know that the work you do on this channel is unparalleled. The amount of research, editing, and overall time that go into these does not go unnoticed, and this quickly became my favorite channel on KZbin when it was recommended to me a while back. I always love learning about this great game, and you make it so easy for the viewers while still being super entertaining and informative. Keep up the fantastic work, as I and many others are always waiting to see the next video. Have a great day my man!
@FoolishBaseball
@FoolishBaseball 2 жыл бұрын
Hey, thank you so much for the kind words. It really means a lot.
@Ryan-rt7kj
@Ryan-rt7kj 2 жыл бұрын
i want to piggy back off this comment. This channel is the single reason i got back into baseball after a long time away. I just happened to watch the Barry bonds video during the 2020 season* and i used to love me some Barry Bonds. That video was so compelling it single day handedly reignited my love for baseball. I have since watched almost every video on the channel. Such top tier content from an extremely talented and insightful fan of this great sport. HCYNBRAB amirite?
@FoolishBaseball
@FoolishBaseball 2 жыл бұрын
@@Ryan-rt7kj Thank you for the kind words!
@brianlacroix822
@brianlacroix822 2 жыл бұрын
you don't have to suck up to him even if you like his videos bruh
@TheArodfan13
@TheArodfan13 2 жыл бұрын
@@brianlacroix822 why does it matter to you? I love his videos and wanted to let him know that his hard work is worth it to people like me. If you don't like my comment, there's a really cool feature on KZbin where you can exit the website and go on about your day without spreading negativity.
@Verlisify
@Verlisify 2 жыл бұрын
I can't describe the flash of excitement I got when I realized this was a Foolish video and not Jomboy. FB getting in on the umpire action is top tier content
@FoolishBaseball
@FoolishBaseball 2 жыл бұрын
We both love us some Hoberg.
@armthesharks6904
@armthesharks6904 2 жыл бұрын
Wait. Aren't you like a competitive pokemon youtuber?
@basedpliskin
@basedpliskin 2 жыл бұрын
@@armthesharks6904 He’s also an incredibly racist furry
@maaarcus7227
@maaarcus7227 2 жыл бұрын
Hey it's the Thorin and RL fellow viewer, Verlisify!
@brighamshamrell4524
@brighamshamrell4524 2 жыл бұрын
The phrase "noted bad umpire" was not used to describe Angel Hernandez in this video.
@FuzzyFromYT
@FuzzyFromYT 2 жыл бұрын
Burrito has arrived. Foolish has uploaded. Today is Christmas.
@jaredzxv3706
@jaredzxv3706 2 жыл бұрын
I would agree fuzzy
@jorty4796
@jorty4796 2 жыл бұрын
i agree fuzzy
@gmoneyalt2535
@gmoneyalt2535 2 жыл бұрын
Great day
@rrrey4448
@rrrey4448 2 жыл бұрын
The Angeles would also agree lol
@FoolishBaseball
@FoolishBaseball 2 жыл бұрын
BREAKING: Fuzzy, Chipotle agree to deal.
@sandrobruni7575
@sandrobruni7575 2 жыл бұрын
And now Pat Hoberg has called a perfect game- the first ever since umpire scorecards was established in 2015.
@AndrewTranBaseball
@AndrewTranBaseball 2 жыл бұрын
15:58 I just took a look at Pat's ump scorecard today on G2 of the WS, he did got the perfect game
@Ghtherich
@Ghtherich 2 жыл бұрын
Daily reminder that Hoberg just called a perfect game and foolish baseball said he most likely will in this video. Good call.
@callumlyons1684
@callumlyons1684 2 жыл бұрын
Jomboy did a video on John Libka, he’s one of the fairest, most consistent and accurate umpires out there. MLB really need to put him in charge of some more important games.
@HistoryNerd808
@HistoryNerd808 2 жыл бұрын
It is great that with the rise of ump scorecards, we actually have the ability to measure umps' abilities objectively and respect the good ones, while criticizing the routinely bad.
@FoolishBaseball
@FoolishBaseball 2 жыл бұрын
It's pretty cool. UmpScoreCards isn't perfect, but given a large enough sample, we can definitely see who best mimics the computerized zone.
@HistoryNerd808
@HistoryNerd808 2 жыл бұрын
@@FoolishBaseball Agreed. Especially since great umps have never gotten the respect they deserve, despite how hard their job is. It's the only position on the field where not noticing them is the sign of a good game.
@mitch5944
@mitch5944 2 жыл бұрын
It's interesting seeing that angel hernandez isn't even in the top 10 worst
@Wolfeson28
@Wolfeson28 2 жыл бұрын
It is good to see that better pitch tracking tools have actually led to umpires improving. Having a more direct incentive such as demotions/firings for consistently bad performance would accelerate the trend, but at least there's some measure of progress.
@kevwwong
@kevwwong 2 жыл бұрын
​@@mitch5944 That is the most surprising thing, although his consistency is in the bottom 10. I think Umpire Scorecards needs to develop a metric that presents a singular number for us to digest how bad (or good) the umps are.
@12packersfan
@12packersfan 2 жыл бұрын
I can’t even blame umps for no wanting to make game-changing calls… If watching Jomboy has taught me anything it’s that managers and players aren’t exactly the symbol of patience
@FoolishBaseball
@FoolishBaseball 2 жыл бұрын
One of the funniest things in baseball is when a player or manager gets ejected for a call the umpire totally got right. Baseball Bits legend Richard Bleier had one a while ago.
@B3Band
@B3Band 2 жыл бұрын
It's not a game changing call if it's correct. Then it's just a game call. Making the wrong call to avoid "changing" the game literally changes the game.
@4gfoley906
@4gfoley906 2 жыл бұрын
It’s of course a real thing to be judged on your “game management” as an umpire as well. One thing to know the rules it’s another to properly apply the rules and accurately explain to a (mad) manager
@johndotcue
@johndotcue 2 жыл бұрын
I mean baseball is already a frustrating game by itself, even the calmest person would lose their shit playing this game lol
@jordandennis6794
@jordandennis6794 2 жыл бұрын
If I lose my shit playing baseball on MLB the Show, I can only imagine how it is in real life
@JakeyIce
@JakeyIce 2 жыл бұрын
Well Bailey, it finally happened. World Series game 2 is a perfect game called by Hoberg. Crazy
@pauldistefano1002
@pauldistefano1002 2 жыл бұрын
Pat Hoberg finally has the perfecto
@toaster567
@toaster567 2 жыл бұрын
I really appreciate your explanation of the strike zone. I often feel it's 3D-ness is forgotten. I think it's good to think of it like a "cloud". Clearly people on the field have a whole different feeling of what a strike zone is.
@georgegoble6054
@georgegoble6054 2 жыл бұрын
i dont know what's the bigger problem in america, guns or bad umpiring
@johnnytwotimes7854
@johnnytwotimes7854 2 жыл бұрын
Is it 3d though? The rules are kinda confusing I think it's meant to be when the ball crosses the front of the plate
@ShaneGrogan724
@ShaneGrogan724 2 жыл бұрын
@@johnnytwotimes7854 It is supposed to be 3D, if the ball crosses over the plate at any point with the correct height, it is a strike
@poluticon
@poluticon 2 жыл бұрын
@@ShaneGrogan724 maybe umps should wear 3D glasses then
@fanny2081
@fanny2081 2 жыл бұрын
That exactly why eephus pitches work. They are hard to hit if they fly in the strike zone at the very back.
@GoombaGuy1996
@GoombaGuy1996 2 жыл бұрын
I'd like to give a shoutout to Jim Joyce. He was one of the best umpires in the game, and it sucks his blown call in costing Armando Galarraga a perfect game will unfairly define him for the the rest of his life.
@FoolishBaseball
@FoolishBaseball 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, and he was very apologetic afterward. You could tell it was eating him up.
@ted6580
@ted6580 2 жыл бұрын
How is it unfair? He cost Galarraga the 21st perfect game in MLB history. You make a colossal blunder and it should define you just as much as a great play does.
@cdawg1648
@cdawg1648 2 жыл бұрын
But one mistake shouldn’t define his career, umps can’t make “great plays” so any mistake ruins their reputation and legacy
@iblizzard7573
@iblizzard7573 2 жыл бұрын
Jim Joyce is a POS. It would have been the first PG in Tigers history.
@mynamejef7963
@mynamejef7963 2 жыл бұрын
He should’ve called him out then 🤷🏽‍♂️ he knows what he did, he wanted to spoil it, and apologized just to try and save face when he found out the world hated him.
@collinpearson385
@collinpearson385 2 жыл бұрын
Umpires have an extremely difficult job and there is so much hate in the media about the job they do, most of the time for good reason. I’m so excited there’s a positive video out there about them and the fact that he uses particular names is awesome
@Ironcabbit
@Ironcabbit 2 жыл бұрын
Which is funny because MLB umpires have the best call accuracy of any officials of the big four sports.
@billyhomeyer7414
@billyhomeyer7414 2 жыл бұрын
Why exactly does baseball have balls and strikes still called by umps?
@Larter232
@Larter232 2 жыл бұрын
@@Ironcabbit that very well could be because they have the easiest job of any official in sports(outside of maybe tennis who at least get to sit) stand in place and keep your eye on the ball isnt very hard
@catman-du8927
@catman-du8927 2 жыл бұрын
@@Larter232 You do realize umps have to move around when the ball gets hit?
@zeked4200
@zeked4200 7 күн бұрын
​@@Ironcabbit I'd like to see a source for that...I have a hard time believing their call accuracy is higher than it is in the NHL. It's a much easier game to call. Definitely the NBA and NFL though...the NBA is rigged and the NFL refs are incompetent 😂
@dandystreethawk27
@dandystreethawk27 2 жыл бұрын
Pat Hoberg perfect game in the finals no less!!!
@Chatherbox
@Chatherbox 2 жыл бұрын
I think most people can understand the difficulty umps face in calling ball/strikes accurately. The problems start when umps bait players into arguments so they can eject them (like the ump "checking" Bumgarner's hand). It's those weird power trips that really mitigate their credibility as a whole and in turn put a lot pressure back on them to get the calls right. The good umps know how to manage a game by keeping everyone's egos in check.
@tylerboudreau9076
@tylerboudreau9076 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for talking about that Beck call. That was at the tail end of the Red Sox slump and it hurt a lot, and they faced a 4 runs added advantage for the Braves in the last two games of the series
@orangezapinator7450
@orangezapinator7450 2 жыл бұрын
I love all the Beatles references at every level in the video lol.
@fallenorder9618
@fallenorder9618 2 жыл бұрын
Angel hernandez is a real inspiration to me, he makes me feel as though I can also become a major league umpire if that’s the level of skill required
@jackthetvroaster7231
@jackthetvroaster7231 2 жыл бұрын
Here after the Pat Hoberg perfect game
@edwinlam4679
@edwinlam4679 6 ай бұрын
And now Pat Hoberg is gone. He umpped too close to the sun, truly the Icarus of calling balls and strikes.
@LearnedSophistry
@LearnedSophistry 2 жыл бұрын
12:02 John libka and pat hoberg at the top, exactly who we expect to be there
@Big73Red
@Big73Red 2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely fantastic video, I’ve always wanted robo umps but never really considered the fact that younger umps are significantly better than guys who have done it for multiple decades. Also around the 12:18 mark I got this weird sensation to unionize my work place even though it’s already unionized… hmmmm strange.
@samuely8487
@samuely8487 2 жыл бұрын
Love the video. Love the Beatles references even more. Foolish Bailey is a renaissance man
@dfp_01
@dfp_01 2 жыл бұрын
Anybody remember Don Denkinger? He actually wasn't that bad of an umpire, it's just that he happened to have whatever the opposite of a clutch factor is when it came to calling big moments. I'm not surprised that umpires are getting better overall, but I think we see more bad calls because we see more games and have more data available to us. I personally can't wait until Hernandez retires, though.
@headshot4311
@headshot4311 Жыл бұрын
Choke factor
@nicholasmarinac6696
@nicholasmarinac6696 2 жыл бұрын
You called it, Hoberg really did get that perfect game
@vexxfulomega9
@vexxfulomega9 2 жыл бұрын
Angel Hernandez is a good person though, being blind really makes you humble.
@FoolishBaseball
@FoolishBaseball 2 жыл бұрын
oof
@kevinalexander6812
@kevinalexander6812 2 жыл бұрын
I get your joke, and I like it. But he actually really is a shitty person though. Tried pulling the race card on the MLB because he's been denied the World Series since like 2005 and still isn't a crew chief, claiming it's racial discrimination not just that he fucking sucks at umpiring. Check out the Jomboy Breakdown of that Phillies v Brewers game where Schwarber yells at him. He goes into it on there.
@SamOliver4
@SamOliver4 2 жыл бұрын
Speaking of baseball video games, now I want to see a baseball video game (maybe a VR game) where you play as the ump (with the correct camera angle behind the catcher), aspiring for that very first ump perfect game. That could be interesting.
@Baseballify
@Baseballify 2 жыл бұрын
It’s always a great day when foolish baseball uploads
@FoolishBaseball
@FoolishBaseball 2 жыл бұрын
thanks!
@Baseballify
@Baseballify 2 жыл бұрын
@@FoolishBaseball NO WAY ITS YOU YOUR MY FAVORITE KZbinR also congrats on being ON TRENDING
@JBIsDoingStuff
@JBIsDoingStuff 2 жыл бұрын
3:38 "This runaway baseball was later rescued and adopted." I hope it found a good home. 😊
@unchainthewolves
@unchainthewolves 2 жыл бұрын
After watching this video I can confirm one thing: Foolish is a big Beatles fan.
@sethpulsford511
@sethpulsford511 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for showcasing Wat Woberg everyone is always such a fan on the ump scorecard twitter
@FoolishBaseball
@FoolishBaseball 2 жыл бұрын
Woberg and Wibka
@CloudyYote
@CloudyYote 2 жыл бұрын
the beatles references were a nice touch to an already great video, bailey! :)
@Flourish38
@Flourish38 Ай бұрын
8:33 is a wonderful bit
@jacobs2784
@jacobs2784 2 жыл бұрын
Foolish- "Every mistake matters." Me- "Thats the nicest thing anyones ever said about me"
@knightslegion1731
@knightslegion1731 2 жыл бұрын
I grew up on baseball in the late '90s and early 2000s. So, I know how wide and flat the zone used to be. I have watched a lot of games in the last 25 years, and generally speaking, I'm pretty impressed with how accurate most umps have gotten around the edge of the zone.
@Free-4554
@Free-4554 2 жыл бұрын
The best umpires are usually the ones we never get to know. Thank you Foolish Baseball for showing us these “heros” of the game.
@sportscards_n_zardstv1891
@sportscards_n_zardstv1891 2 жыл бұрын
I like the idea of each batter getting one “ball/strike” challenge. They can appeal to the 1st or 3rd base umpire who can wear an ear piece and be in contact with someone getting the real time k zone results and can get an accurate call within seconds. Just like appealing if the batter swung or not.
@heat_death7
@heat_death7 2 жыл бұрын
This is probably the best solution for all parties involved, but i think to insure that the challenging is actually usable as something that helps keep balls and strikes accurate, they should let you keep the challenge if you get it right. To ensure that managers and players can actually afford to challenge the bad calls, and not be forced to hold them for late game full counts that may or may not come.
@Jabbersac
@Jabbersac 2 жыл бұрын
I respect and appreciate your reasoning, but this would make the already long game of baseball take a whole lot longer, which I think is a deal-breaker.
@mattforbes221
@mattforbes221 2 жыл бұрын
I was all for this for awhile, but I don’t think it’s implementable. Take Bailey’s Phil Couzy example: a wide but consistent zone is fine, but you can’t suddenly take that zone away in the highest leverage situations. In the ninth inning of a close game, where the pitchers on each side have been utilizing the outer half, it just doesn’t seem fair to arbitrarily take those extra inches away in a crucial count. 2-2 becomes 3-1 with the winning run on second, despite the fact that on any other pitch in the game the count would remain 2-2 (for example).
@sportscards_n_zardstv1891
@sportscards_n_zardstv1891 2 жыл бұрын
@@mattforbes221 I don’t like the idea of a wide/ consistent zone. I feel inside/ outside pitches are the only pitches that need no grey area. If it clips a part of the plate, it’s a strike. Black and white.
@sportscards_n_zardstv1891
@sportscards_n_zardstv1891 2 жыл бұрын
@@Jabbersac I don’t think it would take much time at all. Just like appealing to the first base umpire to see if a batter swung doesn’t add significant time to a ball game. We can see instantly if it was a ball or strike, no one would have to watch a replay or huddle up with other umps.
@schwe
@schwe 9 ай бұрын
2:50 kirk with the majestic framing
@ethan2670
@ethan2670 2 жыл бұрын
I love that the qualifications for a perfect storm were: 1: It was a game on TV 2: It was Angel Hernandez
@zooms7889
@zooms7889 Жыл бұрын
3: it was Angel's worst game of the year
@CoolHandLuke7
@CoolHandLuke7 2 жыл бұрын
To answer the "what gives?" question at the beginning. I think it's just because Angel Hernandez has become the fans' preferred pinata of bad umpiring. Every time he has a bad game, fans take notice, whereas they don't with other umps. It's a reputation/sampling bias thing.
@mitch5944
@mitch5944 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah he wasn't even in the bottom 10 of bad umps lol
@zkiiffs9
@zkiiffs9 2 жыл бұрын
It doesn’t help that he’s also a total prick. CB Bucknor is also a terrible umpire, but he gets less flak for it because he’s a nice guy. When he blows a call, he lets guys scream at him for way longer than just about any other ump.
@CharlesFreck
@CharlesFreck 2 жыл бұрын
@@mitch5944 That doesn't account for how many games he's ruined for throwing people out for no reason.
@badboybrianwwu
@badboybrianwwu 2 жыл бұрын
Hernandez isn’t just bad at balls and strikes. He’s bad anywhere on the field. When he does blow a call, it’s a huge obviously blown call.
@mypud4068
@mypud4068 2 жыл бұрын
@@badboybrianwwu not only that but the league actually mandates that he gets behind the plate games instead of just sticking him out as a field ump despite knowing how awful he is at calling strikes and balls
@the_swoletariat1621
@the_swoletariat1621 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve loved all of your Baseball Bits thus far, but this one is definitely in that Master tier. This one had that effect of your Baseball Commissioner video, which is to make me think outside of my preconceived notions. Keep up the great work!
@anthonym32
@anthonym32 2 жыл бұрын
With the strike zone on my local broadcast, it does honestly blow my mind how great many of the umpires are at their job. Unfortunately, they are in a thankless position. As a former collegiate pitcher, the idea of robo umps is really bittersweet. I love watching good defensive catchers work, and it would be a shame for framing to no longer be necessary. I think a little bit of human error is what makes baseball special.
@Vespyr_
@Vespyr_ 2 жыл бұрын
Most boomer thing I've ever heard. Get rid of them.
@anthonym32
@anthonym32 2 жыл бұрын
Lol I’m not a boomer I’m in my 20s and was a division one pitcher. I’m not wholly opposed to robo umps, I just enjoy watching great catchers work.
@rdizzy1
@rdizzy1 2 жыл бұрын
Framing is not part of baseball, it is for all intents and purposes, just lying to the ump. Happy to see it go, shouldn't reward whichever catchers are the best at bullshit. I mean they train little kids how to do this now, ridiculous.
@ethankibbey1976
@ethankibbey1976 2 жыл бұрын
@@anthonym32 I like human element, I don’t like the lack of any backlash on umps in terms of reprimand though, and how massive of an impact they have on games. What they say goes, and you can’t argue or complain, whether you are right or not, or else you will get ejected, fined or suspended.
@craigwheeler4760
@craigwheeler4760 Жыл бұрын
0:55 Kyle schwarber knows the strike zone very well. He is a 3 true outcomes hitter, as such he walks a lot. If there was any hitter that I would expect to go nuts on Angel Hernandez it would either be Kyle schwarber or Joey gallo. Mike trout's a bit too nice for that, and shohei ohtani definitely is. But those guys also know the strike zone very well.
@thedylan_s22
@thedylan_s22 2 жыл бұрын
PAT HOBERG JUST CALLED A PERFECT GAME IN GAME 2 OF THE WORLD SERIES MJKFKSPWJVKSAAAAAAAA
@pattongilbert
@pattongilbert 2 жыл бұрын
Pat Hoberg did it! A PERFECT GAME in the WORLD SERIES!!!
@NotJustNumberz
@NotJustNumberz 2 жыл бұрын
Hoberg got his Perfect Game!
@jasonlopez8053
@jasonlopez8053 2 жыл бұрын
Lmao you managed to sneak in a couple Beatles references lol it’s amazing
@ts9576
@ts9576 2 жыл бұрын
PETE LACOCK at the 7:50 mark🤣🤣 I can't believe when I looked through the top comments no one gave this kid props for the PETE LACOCK shoutout. Cmon guys. He was an absolute nobody who he clearly threw in there to say his name. Phenomenal name drop.
@milesdouglas3443
@milesdouglas3443 9 ай бұрын
A simple and fast review system is all baseball needs. Cricket did this about 15 years ago
@TheBlank8234
@TheBlank8234 2 жыл бұрын
I was watching the game live when Kyle did that. I'm a Brewers fan, but at that point in the game, everyone watching was a Kyle fan. The ump was terrible all game for both teams, Kyle said what everyone was thinking.
@55frankenstein55
@55frankenstein55 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed. Im a brewers fan too bit hernandez was terrible all around against both teams. To be fair the last pitch to schwarber was too close to take at that point in the game. He should've swung in my unbiased opinion
@RedstoneManiac13
@RedstoneManiac13 2 жыл бұрын
I think the big thing for me is that most of the bad pitches he had called were strikes, versus Adrian Johnson's game where most of the bad pitches he called as balls. I think it says a lot when you're pissing off entire lineups with bad calls vs. just pitchers
@Ironcabbit
@Ironcabbit 2 жыл бұрын
See, I see it the other way. Giving the missed call advantage to the pitchers speeds along the game. And if one team’s pitchers still manage to give up all kinds of hits, it’s pretty compelling evidence that they just suck at their jobs and are probably on bad teams.
@stephbenson7340
@stephbenson7340 Жыл бұрын
I think my favorite strike zone quirk is that it actually can vary based on how the batter is standing. In a runaway game where position players start pitching, sometimes the batters don't get into a proper stance and are stood fully upright. That raises the strike zone! And the pitcher can toss a pitch that would be way high on a normal batter but goes for a strike on the apathetic batter.
@zooms7889
@zooms7889 Жыл бұрын
this is actually the only reason why computers aren't used during games, they can't adjust to the batter's stance until postgame processing
@TurtleMarcus
@TurtleMarcus 7 ай бұрын
In that sense, the strike zone is really a 4-dimensional object, or a 3D-object fluctuating through time. Meaning that it can only be accurately understood and tracked by a higher-dimensional being.
@zackm8853
@zackm8853 2 жыл бұрын
Pat Hoberg calling the first perfect game, with the Phillies, and in the world series of all places. It's hard not to be coincidental about baseball.
@tankeater
@tankeater 2 жыл бұрын
I was a Catcher and framing the pitch is what made me such a good catcher. On an outside pitch, catch the ball with your net and palm with an inside pitch. You don't move your glove at all and give the illusion of a good pitch
@davidcaceres9184
@davidcaceres9184 Жыл бұрын
That was a really calm explanation compared to Twitter
@a13x_chang
@a13x_chang 2 жыл бұрын
Shoutout to Doug Eddings for missing 26 calls in Jays/Sox
@jorty4796
@jorty4796 2 жыл бұрын
💀💀💀
@JacksonCowson
@JacksonCowson 2 жыл бұрын
That entire series was horrible to watch as a jays fan
@cantripleplays
@cantripleplays 2 жыл бұрын
Was he sleeping?
@FoolishBaseball
@FoolishBaseball 2 жыл бұрын
doesn't seem ideal
@karfsma778
@karfsma778 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, that was pretty atrocious.
@tylermiller8142
@tylermiller8142 2 жыл бұрын
Another great video! Thanks for bringing baseball knowledge to normal people. Recently got more into baseball and your videos help me understand much better and you’re hilarious 😂
@FoolishBaseball
@FoolishBaseball 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Tyler!
@Asher.Yodaah
@Asher.Yodaah 2 жыл бұрын
I actually really like human umps. Imperfect strike zone and impact of the catcher I think are fun parts of the game. But often they are too inaccurate, and I understand the gripe. The fact that umps are getting better gives me hope. Robo umps does sound inevitable. I just want some sort of randomness thrown in. Catcher impact sounds nearly impossible to implement. But something like a 3%-5% chance of the robot being wrong if the pitch is within a width of the ball for being in/out of the strike zone would I think be a good balance.
@reeepingk
@reeepingk 2 жыл бұрын
That sounds completely idiotic. If you want a more exciting game, then stop giving pitchers the advantage. Let hitters hit. Don't make the game more exciting by making the calls less fair. That's dumb and a bunch of BS.
@MarkPentler
@MarkPentler Жыл бұрын
You say it's about the frame job at 3:20, but if you run it frame by frame his hand is there in that lower position before the ball goes in - ie, he had no chance to catch further in the strike zone. By the time it's gone from home plate to him the ball has dropped more. In which case: should catchers put their hand as close as possible to home plate?
@rockofshame
@rockofshame 2 жыл бұрын
Love Foolish’s StrongBad impression at 8:40
@FoolishBaseball
@FoolishBaseball 2 жыл бұрын
Oh I think I could do a lot better than that
@theaccountcreated8962
@theaccountcreated8962 2 жыл бұрын
It’s the arrogance that really gets to people.
@mathmeistro4318
@mathmeistro4318 2 жыл бұрын
HERE AFTER PAT HOBERG'S PERFECT WS GAME
@bruhnation5710
@bruhnation5710 11 күн бұрын
Love the beatles references with the level titles. a day in the life, don't let me down, fixing a hole, getting better, for you blue
@doodchappin
@doodchappin 2 жыл бұрын
This channel is so underappreciated I felt the need to comment.
@Speedster___
@Speedster___ 2 жыл бұрын
15:55 you were saying? WS has called
@MichaelDavis-zf6nt
@MichaelDavis-zf6nt 2 жыл бұрын
I wonder how a robo-ump would affect players as well. Such as pitchers who live off calls on the outside, or teams going for more offensive catchers because like you say, framing won't matter if there are robo-umps. Interesting.
@maxsilverstone8600
@maxsilverstone8600 2 жыл бұрын
Pat Hoberg called an umpire perfect game last night! All the more so exciting that it was the World Series!!! If only both World Series teams were teams we wanted to see in the big games.
@ralph7077
@ralph7077 2 жыл бұрын
What a video!!! This is one of the best video I've watched in KZbin. Very informative. Just perfect.
@IBangedUrMom69420
@IBangedUrMom69420 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah if any sport doesn’t need a referee/umpire Union it’s the MLB
@pathutchison7688
@pathutchison7688 7 ай бұрын
“Who did I kiss at that party” caught me totally off guard. Now I have sweet tea running out of my nose. Nicely done sir.
@Bodmanford
@Bodmanford 2 жыл бұрын
Wish you talked about the 2019 nationals more. Nothing will ever come close to how bizarre 2019 was, a World Series with no home wins etc
@Dannyedelman4231
@Dannyedelman4231 6 ай бұрын
Ouch damn it pat why did you get caught gambling
@flyingchimp12
@flyingchimp12 2 жыл бұрын
I think the best would be something of a hybrid system, let the ump call balls and strikes but give him a wristband with the robo ump that he can quickly look to if he’s in doubt - instruct them to do this rarely. With this system you maintain the personal nature of a living strike zone and also allow umps to make less bad calls. A win-win for the old heads and the new heads
@dungeonmaster6292
@dungeonmaster6292 2 жыл бұрын
No. Watch a different game
@Speedy28Gonzales
@Speedy28Gonzales Жыл бұрын
These are so well made. Keep up the good work brotha!
@twodumbcats390
@twodumbcats390 2 жыл бұрын
You and Jom are my go-to baseball YT channels. Good work, my man.
@DrewCougMario
@DrewCougMario 2 жыл бұрын
PAT HOEBERG DID IT!!!
@kyuketsuki5736
@kyuketsuki5736 2 жыл бұрын
Idea: having a mask cam on the umpire, and the broadcast has a bit in the 8th-9th inning where they take 5 of the toughest calls of the game and let the viewers try to do it uncut from the helm cam, then flash the total accuracy of the current ump along with the correct calls would make it more humanizing.
@SteefPip
@SteefPip 2 жыл бұрын
I'm still on the fence about robo umps, and this video actually skewed me away from them. If it is true that the younger umps are better, then we just need to suffer through this nonsense a little longer before the light at the end of the tunnel becomes reality.
@meme_man1023
@meme_man1023 2 жыл бұрын
Loved the video. Awesome points and lots of thought put in. Keep up the good work!
@kquinnvandevelde1384
@kquinnvandevelde1384 8 ай бұрын
Rewatching this video and your ending bit reminds me of how it feels to be a meteorologist (which I am). Please will complain for days about the incorrect predictions but never notice the correct ones. You could predict 29/30 days in a month correctly and the only this people will talk about is the one wrong day. I still think roboumps are probably best for calling balls and strikes, though 😂
@6thwilbury2331
@6thwilbury2331 8 ай бұрын
Then you'll appreciate this: one of my pet peeves is when people grouse when the weather forecast shows a relatively low PoP, but then it rains after all. "Weather guy is a moron! He said it wasn't supposed to rain!" If Assclown is a sports fan, I can always put it in terms of some outcome in sports. "If you went to see Mike Trout and he got a hit, would you be shocked? Then why are you so surprised that it said 30 percent and it rained??" Or it goes the other way when it doesn't rain. "Are you stunned if LeBron misses a free throw? No? Then why are you surprised when 73 percent doesn't happen? You get the idea.
@ivanalvarado3646
@ivanalvarado3646 2 жыл бұрын
THE ROBO UMP FORETOLD BY THE ELDERS HAS ARRIVED
@Itskindabuilt87
@Itskindabuilt87 2 жыл бұрын
I used to umpire. Maybe 10 years total. In all my time I’ve been in many arguments with coaches. Players etc. mainly parents in the crowd. I only ever threw one person out on a bad call argument. Just one. It’s not easy, you do your best
@Mrcuddlesworth_
@Mrcuddlesworth_ 2 жыл бұрын
Funny how when I umpire the players are the most well behaved
@aralornwolf3140
@aralornwolf3140 2 жыл бұрын
So... you never had the joy of throwing a mascot out of the game?
@lorimeyers3839
@lorimeyers3839 2 жыл бұрын
I watched the Phils Rocks game this year. He was incredible. First pitch he missed, didn’t miss a pitch the rest of the game. That is so cool you made a video on it. I think a video on Aaron Nola’s turnaround would be fantastic. By far my favorite starter in the game. Better fastball/sinker and curve command. Finally throwing more sinkers and trusting his D to field ‘dem grounders. Fly ball % down and added a cut fastball, a pitch that is barely noted at league average, but it along with his improved command made his pitch sequencing a bit less predictable. Change up has hurt him a bit this year, but mixing in that cutter to righties or lefties either early in the game and say, a 1-0 count to get them off the offspeed - or third time thru the lineup to a tough lefty, throw it up under the hands. Makes them lose focus on the front door sinker or masks another sight of his out pitch (chase curve). The way he sets hitters up is just really mind blowing. Half the time you can call the K as soon as you see who’s up. Really like what he’s done thus far, dude is seriously underrated. Nobody’s made more starts or eaten more innings than Nola in the last five years, if you’ll believe it..and he’s only 29 I believe. Really promising and I think he’ll continue to improve.
@zooms7889
@zooms7889 Жыл бұрын
aged like fine milk
@ryancohen2513
@ryancohen2513 2 жыл бұрын
just rewatched and this is 100% your best work
@leonardodavinci3589
@leonardodavinci3589 8 ай бұрын
Im preparing for my first game as a softball umpire. Here's my what not to do training
@trumpetperson11
@trumpetperson11 2 жыл бұрын
As someone who did some umping for youth baseball for a bunch of years, not wanting to have an impact is definitely a thing. I'm not saying that I would intentionally change my call, but there would definitely be more stress on a close call if you know that calling one way will have a large impact on the game, and the other will not. On those 3-2 pitches, I was just secretly always hoping that the batter would swing and make my life a little easier. And yes, it is pretty tough to get the correct perspective on those outside pitches. A real pain in the ass. But just be as consistent as you can, and people would complain less.
@jasonschwartz9481
@jasonschwartz9481 2 жыл бұрын
Yep! I played independent ball and all that I ever wanted as a hitter was consistency. If an umpire gave me that, I would never complain. Like, if he's calling low strikes, and I get caught watching a low ball... That's on me. I still play hockey and always ask the same thing.
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