Who Owns The AFL Clubs?

[@saint5852]

Carlton trying to take over north Melbourne is one of the most Carlton thing I could think of 🤣

[@therealsaltysebba9958]

I can just imagine Carlton pulling up at Arden Street guns blazing and saying “give us the club”

[@BDub2024]

i call North Melb "Nowhereroos". not offence. But they haven't pulled their weight.

[@KatieTP]

I'm an American who has fallen in love with Aussie Rules and has been looking to go deeper into the league and the game. Your videos have been extremely helpful! Thanks so much and keep up the great work.

[@BDub2024]

hopefully you follow West Coast then. No brainer if you're California.

[@TheDirge69]

This video highlights the importance of AFL team supporters to become financial members of their favourite team.

[@4whomittolz846]

@JG-bw6lu Ok, firstly, who the fuck asked? Jesus, soccer fans are insufferable. Anyway, with the best Australian soccer players going to the big stage in Europe, there's no way that the A-league can outgrow the AFL, and without the personal connection to cities or areas, there's no way the premier league or any other European league will gain the same cult following by the masses in Aus like the AFL does. AFL isn't played on an international level and it probably never will be, so every football fan is a soccer fan when the world cup or the Olympics is on, but just like how soccer has been a way of life for most of Europe, AFL has been the sport for Australia for more than a century. despite being popular only in one country, it's the 5th highest sport in average attendance, the MCG, the home of Football, is the third most attended stadium in the world, and every year the AFL grand final pulls attendance greater than any domestic soccer league game in the world. So no, I don't think soccer will overtake football in Australia. Thank you for your take.

[@BDub2024]

You reckon? I think the Eagles and Dorkers have a very good model. There is a lot more stability.

[@samiam7241]

Gives me tifo football vibes and I love it! Keep it up

[@FootyA2Z]

thanks mate. tifo have been a huge inspiration to us. what they do is insane

[@BlueAbroad]

This is so good - can't wait for the next one

[@FootyA2Z]

Thanks Mate! hopefully its soon. We have a bit more spare time atm...

[@neilpemberton5523]

I was born and raised in Brisbane, and was just appalled at how 'our' new club's birth was bungled by Cronin and that soon-to-be criminal Skase. Awful jumper, a 'Koala Bear' (!) as a symbol, and not even playing in Brisbane! My now sadly departed Dad swore never to go to a match until they moved to the place they belonged. The first season had some encouraging results but Skase was spending other people's money and we nearly folded when he went bust and skipped the country. But three years after the members took over, and two years after we moved to the Gabba, we were in the finals, giving the eventual premiers Carlton a good run for their money.

[@BDub2024]

Brisbane got there in the end.

[@davidfox9947]

What a great way to run a league here in the US the only club run similar to this is the NFL's Green Bay Packers

[@BDub2024]

yeh go the packers. when i was looking for a team that was a massive attraction for me and green bay. if you're looking for a AFL team I can recommend West Coast.

[@ExampleName-j2n]

I’m a west Aussie and support north but west cost is a pretty good Choice as they aren’t that good at the moment but Harley Reid is leading it to victory and will be a pretty good success story in 10 years time

[@cigiesandvtines]

Wait wait wait - Carlton nearly couped North Melbourne?! When do we get THAT episode?

[@FootyA2Z]

hahaha all in good time...

[@MRHenHen]

When North Melbourne won the flag in 1999 they where still partially owned by Carlton who eventually sold all of their shares back to North Melbourne to pay for the legal fees from the salary cap breaches in the early 2000’s

[@ianhinson2829]

@Suq Madiq Western Sydney Kangaroos would've sounded better. I don't know how NM missed those opportunities.

[@ianhinson2829]

@Suq Madiq Bert would be the exception to the rule, or has since changed his mind. I remember Fitzroy supporters feeling angry and disenfranchised when their team was forcibly shut down and "merged". The few I spoke to around that time said words to the effect of "I no longer have a team.😭I'm NOT going to barrack for Brisbane. They're not Fitzroy." (I seem to recall even Bert saying that back then.) So if you think Brisbane inherited an instant Melbourne supporter base you'd be very wrong. Lack of support in Melbourne plagued them for many years and possibly still does. South Melbourne's relocation on the other hand was quite different to that, and South's supporters (mostly) continued to support the Swans.

[@MrWhitmen1981]

They are a pathetic lot. Kinda club to breach the salary cap and come last.

[@TrueFootyAFL]

Another incredible video - no idea how you guys find the time. This vid has potential to grow big over time I reckon.

[@FootyA2Z]

True Footy thanks mate, hopefully it just keeps creeping up. As for how we find the time... there’s a reason we don’t usually upload weekly

[@MRHenHen]

St. Kilda allowed their members to buy shares in the club & considered to change the name to the southern saints similar to the western bulldogs to keep the club afloat during the 80’s & 90’s

[@BDub2024]

yeh i remember seeing tshirts with that. st kilda has been really successful in embracing change and establishng themselves in a corridor. but haven't been rewarded with success. not sure with seaford and what's happening there. overall done well.

[@MRHenHen]

Fitzroy tried to be privately owned by a company instead of opting for a relocation to Brisbane at the end of 1986. Ross Oakley quickly squashed that & the relocation proposals to Horbart & Canberra in the early 90’s.

[@MRHenHen]

MisterTeeBag You the club & it’s history is far from dead just because the name Fitzroy doesn’t exist anymore in the AFL. After the merger the club still retained it’s board of directors, shareholders & social club members but had no team & went into recess until 1998 when the University Red’s who played in the VAFA at Brunswick Street Oval went broke & the Fitzroy took over the club & have since then won premierships in the VAFA. The Fitzroy Football Club has been financially stable for a while with a seniors, under 18’s, women’s & children’s sides. All the money from memberships, merchandise & sausage sizzle & raffles going directly back to the club. They have even built a healthy relationship with the Brisbane Lions where they have held joint family day’s together at Brunswick Street Oval. www.fitzroyfc.com.au/

[@MRHenHen]

MisterTeeBag You lol if you want to believe that then so be it I’m not going to waste my time goodbye 👋

[@TheJonkerr7]

@Suq Madiq why?

[@tiamckie1228]

I'm happy KZbin recommend this video, so interesting

[@DRiceArizona]

This is very informative. I am American but have been fascinated by AFL for a while since I saw a game on late night television about a decade ago. I now have time to try to get more educated on the sport and it's set-up and administration. I find it to be a much more interesting game than American football.

[@BDub2024]

i saw your post. I can answer questions for you too. I barrack for Eagles a great club that's a real success story, but not this year.

[@Deny12ish]

Would love to see a video on West Coasts entry into the league. Not sure if true but the debt they had in the early days was attributed to the VFL requiring them to pay large sums to enter the VFL which was going through financial problems themselves (steming from overpaying players to steal from other state leagues?).

[@shanepope102]

This would be awesome. Changed the landscape forever. Next one could be Freo's entry and how they butchered all their early trades and drafts bwahaha

[@marcusperham1753]

You’ll find videos on KZbin about how the Eagles came to be and the early struggles joining the VFL

[@shanepope102]

@ken moody LOL. Freo should have thrown Chris Groom's name up for the Western Derby cup rather than Ben Allen

[@BDub2024]

I can tell you (remember your post?). Eagles had to pay $4m in 1987. Also from memory had to pay for all travel for themselves and opposition team. So 22 weeks of travel. Eagles basically saved VFL clubs. Richmond and Collingwood had for example been stealing players from each other and over paying and were in real financial strife. So VFL had no alternative but to give licenses to interstate clubs and then tried their best to rip them off. I'm a big Eagles fan and I reckon they've done it harder than anyone apart from qld and nsw clubs and they've survived and the biggest club in the league now.

[@atrainjr7754]

This guy should be at 500k subs

[@jimbonmfc2555]

This is so cool I love this channel

[@CARDMAN22]

These videos are so good, I learnt a lot

[@FootyA2Z]

thanks Cardman, glad to hear we're helping :)

[@aaronbra4974]

Would love to see a vid on AFL cashflow.. whose pockets does it end up in .. etc

[@BDub2024]

I'd like to see the impact on TV royalties. If they get a third club from WA how much extra tv royalties is it worth.

[@stevenrichardson4659]

AFL is probably the fairest and most competitive,code in the world. Rugby League and Rugby Union could learn from this model.

[@BDub2024]

Free agency is hurting the evenness of the competition.

[@adamstewie5615]

Love the videos man I'd love to see one about essendons final drought I reckon that would be amazing

[@mrnerd145]

I’d love to see the drought end haha. Go bombers 😎 edit: I thought that said grand final drought when I replied

[@BDub2024]

and Calrton's... Essendon continues to this day.

[@felixscarlett1542]

3:29 South Melbourne relocated to Sydney in 1982

[@jecos1966]

That is so but it was sold in 1985

[@tonewasley]

@@jecos1966 Then perhaps you should have worded it differently. Anyway, I still enjoy your stuff.

[@DianneFilipenko]

It will be interesting to watch how all these boards will keep responding to the season shutdown

[@FootyA2Z]

very interesting indeed

[@BDub2024]

they managed... 3 years later. how the eagles managed with 2 bad years with injury crises and covid is really fascinating.

[@stuartk3498]

Great video and information. Thanks 👍

[@dasbarasat2637]

Fantastic. Thanks 👍 so much. As an ethnic trying to understand footy... your videos are invaluable

[@joshuafaure]

North: makes bank off investors, refuses to do anything they wanted, gets their shares back, refuses to elaborate. God I love my club

[@jayson_white5913]

mason cox owns richmond

[@curtino114]

Excellent video, it would be cool if you included the sources too so I could check it out.

[@FootyA2Z]

Thanks Christian! Most the financial figures used come from the annual reports which you can find here: www.footyindustry.com/?page_id=4982 Everything else was mostly news articles, but the tabs are long gone.

[@curtino114]

@@FootyA2Z Cheers

[@georgelucie4746]

I love you dude and go Roos

[@AussieTVMusic]

the AFL is like the universe. nobody owns anything.

[@depressedessendonfan5702]

you deserve a lot more credit for this channel. a lot more. like tonnes.

[@KnicksIn6ix]

🔥! I’m kinda annoyed, I was there the who,e stream yesterday and he didn’t check mine out... 😂

[@FootyA2Z]

Hahaha oh no! We got pretty lucky

[@KnicksIn6ix]

Footy A2Z glad that he checked u out though

[@millertas]

Tassie continues to be ripped of by the AFL. Relocate the Giants to Launceston ('Greater Northern Tassie Giants') and Gold Coast to Hobart (Hobart Drizzle).

[@TheDirge69]

Or the Hawks? How many Tasmanians would become members?

[@millertas]

@@TheDirge69 Not me I follow St. Kilda. Yes Hawthorn is popular but not as popular as you may think.

[@TheJonkerr7]

@@TheDirge69 Why would we shift there when we have 50K plus members in Vic???

[@43scout74]

appreciate all your hard work man, these videos are great!

[@43scout74]

ps. i really f with your art style :)

[@BDub2024]

blood oath they are.

[@markwhelan9887]

Thanks for explaining how it works and it all makes sense awesome post 😉👍👌👏

[@gangqinmaster]

You should consider taking up being a corporate governance advisor as a side gig!

[@snowman01]

It's sad that Port Power isn't owned by members given it's an old, non-franchise club. How did that happen?

[@ibd1977]

SANFL happened. We could not get into the AFL without that fat leach on our backs sucking up all our revenue.

[@mikespearwood3914]

Yeah, baffling. Would've assumed any club outside of Victoria being a members' owned club would be Port Adelaide!

[@BDub2024]

It should be SANFL owned. You don't want the teams in SA being treated in a different way. So Port and Crows need to be treated the same.

[@okkomp]

Wait, but who owns the AFL?

[@brak54321]

European Super League take note

[@FootyA2Z]

member owned clubs is where it's at

[@BDub2024]

Eagles and Dockers have the best model I reckon.

[@ssttyyllee2009]

Who owns afl

[@KandonKuuson]

The SANFL were stupid to give the Crows away. Makes me irritated!

[@BDub2024]

I'm in Perth and I was surprised. Eagles are going to be owned regardless, but have tried to put a fixed amount to the dividend they pay. But WAFC want it to be variable depending on club's earnings.

[@bensleigh9990]

Great video. Were South Melbourne and Fitzroy originally member owned before relocating/merging?

[@BDub2024]

Yes they would have been. No difference to other Vic clubs.

[@HahaDamn]

You have to buy membership

[@thebulldogsking2511]

Nice video

[@FootyA2Z]

Thanks mate!!

[@tubester4567]

Interesting video. How is the AFL commission a non profit organisation? When it earns hundreds of millions from broadcasting rights? Is the AFL commission a separate entity to the AFL?

[@TheJonkerr7]

Why don't you look up the definition of non profit or not for profit as it also called on the web...

[@fromjarrod]

Carn the cats🤘🏾

[@punchy1464]

such good videos

[@jacquesdelyons3516]

Top work lads. I've been wondering about this for a while.

[@charliemacdonald3513]

Thanks actually learned something. Sick content 👍

[@ramiromaia592]

Members act like shareholders but don't own the club

[@billba]

Richmond was owned by Alan Bond in 1987 for one week.

[@markwhelan9887]

Hello Mr Alan bond how ya going bloke I'm your brand new neighbour hay mate you got a smoke !!!! I didn't know that about Alan bond please explain what happened and why only one week ? PS it's a red one 😂

[@glvick1186]

I came from Coooook

[@FootyA2Z]

Evil Pancake Cook’s a legend!

[@adilaccount3070]

Your channel is a gem, much needed analysis on important AFL analysis off the pitch. Keep up the great work!

[@BDub2024]

yeh pretty accurate.

[@batesy8642]

These videos are so interesting 👍

[@FootyA2Z]

Thanks Batesy!! glad to hear you're enjoying the content

[@batesy8642]

Footy A2Z how long do these take to make and edit?

[@FootyA2Z]

@@batesy8642 Generally from start to finish we work on a video for about 1-2 weeks but that might be a bit speedier for the next few months seeing as we don't have as much work or uni

[@batesy8642]

Footy A2Z ok nice keen to watch... btw I tried drawing on abobe and I can’t even outline bro 😂😂😢

[@imogapils]

Great video. Please find time to break down the Stephen O'Reilly trade, and all its ramifications, some time. :D

[@BDub2024]

Stephen O'Reilly geez that's going back a bit.

[@lemilemi5385]

Very Tifo but some more charisma please

[@lukagrga6178]

Who Is Here From Cooko

[@dweller6065]

Very informative - thank you for taking the time to make this.

[@gondola0969]

Nice video, really enjoyed that 👍

[@piratekerry]

Really interesting- thanks!

[@jamesgrant6839]

Real interesting stuff, great video!

[@Adroyo]

Another great vid

[@FootyA2Z]

BlueBoo thank you!

[@coyboyz8416]

I am your 700 th subscriber

[@rhettpeter83]

I’m looking for a Californian man to sing me lullabies as I sleep. Will pay well.

[@BDub2024]

West Coast are you... then West Coast Eagles is your team.

[@Ed-yi2vk]

Okay

[@nickcosmai6595]

Why aren’t the two sa clubs member owned?

[@ibd1977]

Both clubs were formed and controlled under the SANFL sub licence into the AFL until 2015. The SANFL purged both clubs of revenue, leaving them with significant debt after they were handed over to the AFL as a part of the Adelaide Oval deal. The AFL will not release the clubs until the debt is cleared and the 2 clubs can stand as independent entities. To be honest I am not sure what's holding back the Crows from membership control as they have been in better financial position than Port for the last decade or so.

[@BDub2024]

But in WA the Eagles especially and Dorkers to a lesser extent pay for WA junior development. AFL don't put much into WA footy and its basically propped up by WAFC and Eagles and Dorkers.

[@papaproduction]

Go north, no one will ever take our team. North Melbourne since 1869

[@Doogsay]

Great vid

[@williamdoughty3742]

To say that Russian billionaires and middle eastern prince are absent in Australian sport is incorrect, Sydney FC is owned by a Russian oligarch and Melbourne city fc are owned by man city

[@RSKIKR79]

he probably should have said "of sports in Australia that fans actually watch Russian billionaires and middle eastern prince are absent in Australian sport" there are only 2 codes that people even give a F about

[@blueycarlton]

He's talking about real football, not the round ball code.

[@banger181]

Licence = noun; License = verb.

[@stephendraffin5775]

I’m happy that I’m not the only one irritated by that.

[@kizzassports8591]

Great Video Mate

[@FootyA2Z]

Thanks dude :)

[@ChillStepa]

I'm a member where do I vote?

[@FootyA2Z]

At your clubs Annual General Meeting. If you're a paying member you should get an email or letter inviting you to it every year.

[@ChillStepa]

Footy A2Z yes I'm paying member. Don't think I've paid attention though 😂🤪

[@redtiger4352]

"Not for profit"....so where do all the money go? Executives and Players grabbing every single penny.....biggest corruption ever

[@SgtTibbs-jj9hl]

‘Not for profit’ doesn’t work that way. It basically means when there is a profit, it’s not payed out to owners.

[@TheJonkerr7]

not very smart are you?

[@redtiger4352]

@@SgtTibbs-jj9hl once profits not payed out then there are no accountability hence every one grabbing all the money they can, executives and players.

[@SgtTibbs-jj9hl]

Baby Purn no

[@TOTN17]

Yankee Investors are now taking interest in Aussie Sports Clubs

[@tigerboyzz3853]

This is the definition of greatness

[@FootyA2Z]

so he does love us.....!

[@OrchidEleven]

Port did not push to remove its license from the AFL because of "independence" it was to get the fuck away from the SANFL. Lot of history unknown about that saga which you could make massive docuseries' about

[@flame8388]

This is tifo for afl

[@billymorrison7919]

Yes looks like the democratic rights of the fans are paramount in club policy’s , that is great !! One Question though who controls the AFL .??The competition organised is not a league in the true sense , there is no formal arrangement that teams play each other twice in a season , there is no draw for the fixtures merely an orchestration of the games program to maximise profit.. Even the Finals venues are arranged for what ever reason the “League”. decides at times leaving clubs that have earned a home final seriously disadvantaged. !! That is not the fair go expected and respected in Australia !!

[@TheJonkerr7]

Oh god...yawn... "not a league in the true sense" - just in a sense that people got used to, no true about it, all a league is is a group of teams that play in the same competition regardless of how the comp functions, whether they play each other twice is immaterial. The maximising of revenue is responsible management. It allows players to maximise their earnings and funds directly and indirectly the jobs of a hella lot of people...it also means that when clubs need it there is funding available as well as funding for game development etc. Run it like the old days pal, and it will not survive.

[@billymorrison7919]

Jon Kerr What a load of bullshit, any competition is a nonsense if orchestrations are required for survival . The very word competition imply’s striving for success from an even footing!! Orchestrations on the other hand guarantee biased interference at all levels . Where could there be satisfaction for anyone following a sport where outcomes are influenced by other than skill and ability !! Have another Yawn noddy !! , Your way would be a nightmare for normal people !!

[@matthewleonardi247]

China owns Port Adelaide lol

[@spaniardjr7918]

Now we know who to say the afl is rigged for

[@eijiniizuma6184]

sydney

[@CathodeRayNipplez]

Excellent vlog! This subject has always confused me. The music however is freaking terrible, feel like I'm stuck in the lift of a poxy hotel. The snare drum sounds like metallic dripping tap. I struggled to the end . There is so much free music available for KZbin use there is no excuse for this shocker.