For Honor - Gear Stat Efficiency

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Күн бұрын

I'm aware that I'm a few days late, but I've been recording/editing this thing for nearly a week now, so I wanted to finish it.
Timestamps:
Attack - 1:45
Block Damage - 2:00
Block Damage Resistance - 2:16
Defense - 2:33
Execution Health regen - 2:50
Exhaustion Recovery - 3:03
Feat Cooldown - 3:24
Revenge Mode Attack - 4:08
Revenge Mode Defense - 4:25
Revenge Mode Duration - 4:51
Revive Speed - 5:16
Sprint Speed - 5:38
Stamina Cost Reduction - 6:01
Stamina Regen - 6:40
Here's the Damage spreadsheet mentioned: docs.google.com/spreadsheets/...
Music used:
Da Tooby - Boom Bap Jazz 3
www.epidemicsound.com

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@fkkfreeze
@fkkfreeze 7 жыл бұрын
Timestamps: Attack - 1:45 Block Damage - 2:00 Block Damage Resistance - 2:16 Defense - 2:33 Execution Health regen - 2:50 Exhaustion Recovery - 3:03 Feat Cooldown - 3:24 Revenge Mode Attack - 4:08 Revenge Mode Defense - 4:25 Revenge Mode Duration - 4:51 Revive Speed - 5:16 Sprint Speed - 5:38 Stamina Cost Reduction - 6:01 Stamina Regen - 6:40
@hexes7331
@hexes7331 7 жыл бұрын
freeze q
@isaacsteveyip
@isaacsteveyip 7 жыл бұрын
freeze d
@TheAtomicMango
@TheAtomicMango 7 жыл бұрын
You need to increase your mic audio and speak up. Sounds like you're on your deathbed.
@seanhouston1342
@seanhouston1342 7 жыл бұрын
TheAtomicMango Maybe you should turn up your volume, he sounded fine.
@MaximusProxi
@MaximusProxi 7 жыл бұрын
thats what confuses me.. isn't bleed fix dmg?.. so IF debuff resistance really affects bleed, does it reduces the dmg by lasting for a shorter time OR does it make it tick faster which would actually hurt you and only be an advantage against nobushis passive..
@OhNabn
@OhNabn 7 жыл бұрын
Did not expect Block damage/execution regen to be actually useless... time to change gear up.
@dull.4320
@dull.4320 7 жыл бұрын
Block damage yes, but with Execution Regen - it's most beneficial if you like to use very slow executions. In the video, he used Valk's 3 second execute. If you use any 6+ second execute, you will see a bigger HP gain. The downfall of this though, is people are becoming smart enough to simply GB you out of your execution lol.
@LemonStank
@LemonStank 7 жыл бұрын
how do you gb when you're dead?
@dull.4320
@dull.4320 7 жыл бұрын
No, you don't GB. What I mean is - when you're in revenge mode and execute someone, the only way to stop the execution is if you get GBed. You heal so much with max Execution HP, plus if you're max Def max Revg Def, that you're not going to die unless their 3 other teammates are top heavying you.
@draconiandraco
@draconiandraco 7 жыл бұрын
Block damage does more damage on certain characters, and high damage with the punch through feat. block damage resistance nullifies this however.
@voodoorage2710
@voodoorage2710 7 жыл бұрын
This is terrific work
@TheAethora
@TheAethora 7 жыл бұрын
Great work man, only suggestion would be a slide at the end showing all results on one page for people to pause on while modifying their own gear.
@Senar1y
@Senar1y 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the efort you've made to do this. I needed this video for a while. Cheers.
@derekhayes4358
@derekhayes4358 7 жыл бұрын
Amazing quality! You really out the work in on this one!
@hr1100
@hr1100 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for that, make a lot of things clear. Excellent work!
@MostHatedRizzy
@MostHatedRizzy 7 жыл бұрын
Very informative video. You deserve more subs. It takes a lot of work to collect all that information. You inspire me to try harder on my content/videos. ...I'll start tomorrow, too high right now n I got the munchies.
@TheValiantBob
@TheValiantBob 7 жыл бұрын
So here's what I'm thinking for priority on gear, and you guys can help me figure this out exactly: Helmet: 1. Revenge Mode Duration 2. Exhaustion Recovery, 3. Debuff Resistance Chest: 1. Sprint Speed, 2. Execution Health Regen, 3. Block Damage Arms: 1. Stamina Regen, 2. Revive Speed, 3. Block Damage Resistance Blade: 1. Defense, 2. Attack, 3. Stamina Cost Reduction Hilt: 1. Revenge Gain on Defense, 2.Revenge Mode Defense, 3. Feat Cooldown Reduction Guard: 1. Revenge Gain by Injury, 2. Revenge Mode Attack, 3. Throw Distance.
@fkkfreeze
@fkkfreeze 7 жыл бұрын
I mostly agree, but 1 thing is a big nono in my book:revenge duration. you want to absolutely minimize its uptime. You gain it so fast that you can pop it almost nonstop. You gain the shield+parry so often and thus you stay a live much longer, than if you were sitting in a long revenge mode with no shield.
@TheValiantBob
@TheValiantBob 7 жыл бұрын
Huh. Hadn't thought about it like that. What would you say then is the good priority order for that slot? High exhaustion recovery, medium debuff, and trash duration?
@azkhoyo731
@azkhoyo731 7 жыл бұрын
TheValiantBob exactly
@crowy2720
@crowy2720 7 жыл бұрын
Actually Debuff Resistance is better than Exhaustion Recovery, specially if you have maxed stamina regen in the arm piece.
@Linwe77
@Linwe77 7 жыл бұрын
Your video is much better than the one i found on reddit ! Thanks !
@dull.4320
@dull.4320 7 жыл бұрын
I know some people said you need to increase your mic volume / speak with more enthusiasm, but I honestly disagree. I think your voice is pretty calming and relaxed. This video made me think I was watching a cooking show with a laid back British chef haha.
@fkkfreeze
@fkkfreeze 7 жыл бұрын
hehe, no worries man, even if I wanted to I couldn't do it more energetic, I'd just sound like a complete twat ;) but I appreciate the comment
@dull.4320
@dull.4320 7 жыл бұрын
Yeah, there's nothing more annoying than fake enthusiasm. Just keep doing you, there will be people out there who appreciate your genuineness. Thanks for all the info. in this video, this was exactly what I was looking for.
@chappYcast
@chappYcast 7 жыл бұрын
Liked and subbed, thanks for your effort, very useful.
@centmain4538
@centmain4538 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks this really helped me and thanks for the time stamps
@bleedrainbows9522
@bleedrainbows9522 7 жыл бұрын
This data is super useful, thanks for this.
@leinadlink
@leinadlink 7 жыл бұрын
The execution health recovery may seem useless, but that is because the test was done with the Valkyrie. Recently I made a test with a friend and we found out that the slower an execution is, you regen more health, since Valk has the fastest ones it's only natural she regens very little health.
@LeagueofMilk
@LeagueofMilk 7 жыл бұрын
Awesome work/vid--ty sir
@GloriousMongrel
@GloriousMongrel 7 жыл бұрын
Awesome video! Could you test the different health gain with executions of different lengths?
@vanksteinvanker1062
@vanksteinvanker1062 7 жыл бұрын
Execution health regen is bloody useless... lots of stats seem to be. What the hell.
@vanksteinvanker1062
@vanksteinvanker1062 7 жыл бұрын
* Revenge seems to not be useless though. Kinda explains revenge builds. Defence builds seem okay too.
@kleinerhardi
@kleinerhardi 7 жыл бұрын
Are you kidding? How you could even say "Defense build" when you always go Revenge build as well? One does not contradict the other. Because nothing matters except revenge.
@vanksteinvanker1062
@vanksteinvanker1062 7 жыл бұрын
Because you can choose to do more damage outside of revenge or take more of it. Revenge damage is separate from attack and defense, yes, but you can choose to do more damage without revenge or take more.
@Tu-cv9ei
@Tu-cv9ei 7 жыл бұрын
Yeah, execute, block damage and block damage resist, pretty much all the stamina stuff, and even attack doesn't compare to defense. Feat cooldown is ok I guess, but that revenge is leagues ahead of anything else.
@Makukeisari
@Makukeisari 7 жыл бұрын
I use max throw distance gear. It makes me a good lawbringer.
@cristiantrushin
@cristiantrushin 7 жыл бұрын
greatest for honor video
@luchs2826
@luchs2826 5 жыл бұрын
Hey ur channel is one of my fav channels and I hope U update this vid cuz a lot of changes happened
@Reaper4293
@Reaper4293 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks dude!
@Ordo.Corinthivm
@Ordo.Corinthivm 7 жыл бұрын
Hi man, thanks for the video btw I might miss something but does the revive speed stacked with revive feats if the stats is full? how fast will it be?
@phild1986
@phild1986 7 жыл бұрын
love it if you did this for the season 2 stats
@Viz4r
@Viz4r 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@MaxDly
@MaxDly 7 жыл бұрын
I feel that block damage resistance does actually help, I used to get killed by heavy attacks while blocking. Thinking I'd be fine blocking, but suddenly I'm getting executed.
@everettdaly5621
@everettdaly5621 7 жыл бұрын
How does revenge attack interact with normal attack? Do they stack or is it replacing your normal attack modifier? Is it addetive stacking or multiplication? Also, for stamina cost reduction measurements, you could have done a full block stance to gradually lower your stamina over time.
@brandoncremer4905
@brandoncremer4905 7 жыл бұрын
Everett Daly I tested this unofficially and they stack... not sure how though.
@Eso-El-Dorado
@Eso-El-Dorado 7 жыл бұрын
A summary at the end or graph would be nice
@momolight2468
@momolight2468 7 жыл бұрын
omg thank u so much but please make a vid about the revenge gain by defence and injury.. and the debuff resistance
@darthkadra2437
@darthkadra2437 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for this study, I'm sure it has helped a lot of ppl. I would appreaciate if you could test the debuff resistance as concerns the bleedout damage. It might be as useless as Block Dmg Res but than again if it provides significant benefits, imagine PK or Nobuchi scratching their arse thinking wtf.
@fkkfreeze
@fkkfreeze 7 жыл бұрын
UBIsoft confirmed in their latest stream that full debuff resistance makes you immune to bleed. I haven't tested it though, so who knows ;)
@darthkadra2437
@darthkadra2437 7 жыл бұрын
fully immune, they gotta be kidding, the PK just came back with the latest patch, and at least 1/3 dmg is bleed on them depending on how things are going, most of the time it's like half the dmg, cutting half the damage through gear, that's insane
@Longtimer49
@Longtimer49 7 жыл бұрын
They are amazing in 4v4 still because they get a damage resistance trait which makes them the second tankiest hero, right behind warlord, in 4v4 while still being the fastest. Most of the just spam light and area attacks anyway.
@MotivBeats
@MotivBeats 7 жыл бұрын
freeze its true i came across a warden with 108 gear score last night.. im a pk main and this guy's health bar didnt even move when i used my stab... not to mention a catapult right on his head didnt even kill him... lol a bit obsurd...
@nino9590
@nino9590 7 жыл бұрын
Motiv Beats well wardens have a feat that make them immune to bleed damage
@DaBigguhOne
@DaBigguhOne 7 жыл бұрын
What about block damage resist vs revenge mode heavies? I know you need to parry heavies when they have revenge but fights can get hectic and I end up needing to block at times. Sometimes I get hit for a huge chunk and have even died through blocks from revenge.
@StayPunk-nn3jw
@StayPunk-nn3jw 7 жыл бұрын
Is the middle picture in example taken with vanilla gear ? And do you have the chance to test out the middle stat too (the one at 75% bar) ?
@fkkfreeze
@fkkfreeze 7 жыл бұрын
yes, the middle picture is without gear whatsoever. Gearscore 0
@langstonharrisjara4973
@langstonharrisjara4973 7 жыл бұрын
Would have liked to see more of those untested stats
@TheSpiritWalk
@TheSpiritWalk 6 жыл бұрын
Outstanding work, takes away all the bs speculations....Has anything changed with updates...Drastically?
@fkkfreeze
@fkkfreeze 6 жыл бұрын
yes, that video has been outdated for a long time. most of these stats aren't even in the game anymore
@TheSpiritWalk
@TheSpiritWalk 6 жыл бұрын
Thx ..I knew it was outdated, but didn't know if the stats that are still in the game changed all that much from the numbers in your test
@serendipitykitty7109
@serendipitykitty7109 7 жыл бұрын
The issue with your test on execution health regen is that it's relative to the length of the execution. You used a short one, of course the effect is hardly noticeable.
@eliteslayer66
@eliteslayer66 7 жыл бұрын
I'm sad throwing distance wasn't checked. Still very helpful though, thank for doing this.
@demonwolf570
@demonwolf570 7 жыл бұрын
The health gain by executions does differ amoung characters because my warden gains 1 1/2 bars at its max and about 1/2 a bar at it's lowest.
@fkkfreeze
@fkkfreeze 7 жыл бұрын
it differs from execution to execution. The longer it takes, the more health you get back. But the % increase from gear should stay the same.
@demonwolf570
@demonwolf570 7 жыл бұрын
freeze I didn't see any difference in the health from the length of the execution. I think it solely depends on the stats.
@lesterespinosa2803
@lesterespinosa2803 7 жыл бұрын
Demonwolf570 The longest default lawbringer execution gave me quite bit more health back than the shorter default execution did
@bkehlin
@bkehlin 7 жыл бұрын
Demonwolf570 That actually has to do with the execution DURATION. Ubisoft has said this themselves. The longer the execution animation, the more health you gain.
@demonwolf570
@demonwolf570 7 жыл бұрын
brian ehlin No it doesn't. On a channel where a guy posted videos about a lawbringer taking on multiple people st once (he calls them "Anti-Gank compilations") he gains about 2 1/2 bars of health no matter how long the execution is. It all relies on your stats. Why do you think there are stats for that category in the first place?
@shuai420
@shuai420 7 жыл бұрын
Have you eliminated induvidual hero scaling rates as a source of error?
@tunafish23
@tunafish23 7 жыл бұрын
Yeah I'm wondering about that. I've got max block damage on my shugoki and maybe it was a placebo effect but I thought it helped. Then again execution health regen seems to do so little that I'm not in any rush to change it.
@draconiandraco
@draconiandraco 7 жыл бұрын
Ex health regen is affected by longer executions. Block damage is higher on heavy hitter characters like Conqueror, Raider, zerker shugoki and warlord oddly enough. However Block damage resistance when maxed completely nullifies this.
@lesterespinosa2803
@lesterespinosa2803 7 жыл бұрын
Does stamina cost reduction also affect how much stamina you lose when an attack is blocked or parried ?
@fkkfreeze
@fkkfreeze 7 жыл бұрын
the official dev statement is, that it only affects attacks and nothing else. I haven't confirmed this via testing though. So who knows whether it's working as intended ;)
@jadestep9624
@jadestep9624 6 жыл бұрын
Everyone: "LMAO! Block damage is useless!"Myself: *Proceeds to take halfbars even off Shugoki multiply it with passive feat - "Punch through" with lights alone and confirms kills too* (people have honestly tried to report me for cheating before I don't know if the stat or feat where both buffed or if this is a bug but won 1 V 4 like this)
@AVAtticus182
@AVAtticus182 7 жыл бұрын
hmm, in the Block Damage part, the first two lights do 12, but the last one with all heavys - the first heavy does 2 damage.. explain? 10 damage? thats prob worth more to me than revive
@fkkfreeze
@fkkfreeze 7 жыл бұрын
irrelevant numbers in that case. You only see the last 3 damage sources. So I hit the person until he's on his last bar, so 1 heavy prompts the execute. Only the middle line counts for testing.
@Robert-jk4oe
@Robert-jk4oe 6 жыл бұрын
So block damage is how much damage u do to an opponent when they are blocking
@calvintang3968
@calvintang3968 7 жыл бұрын
Would you consider doing a feat stat efficiency?
@fkkfreeze
@fkkfreeze 7 жыл бұрын
check the link to the spreadsheet in the description. Someone else has tested the feats already.
@malohn2068
@malohn2068 7 жыл бұрын
So here's the question. Block damage or Execution health? Both so freaking bad but which would be more beneficial?
@christopherdoyle3509
@christopherdoyle3509 7 жыл бұрын
Block damage - How often are you going to execute? probably not often
@giveitarub7215
@giveitarub7215 7 жыл бұрын
Definately execution health regen in my opinion. Depending on the character you could have lengthy executions which earn you more health, which would yield more benefits from health regen. Longer the execution, the more health you regain. Why would you go for block damage when in the video each category showed 2 damage whether you had it near max or near minimum?
@Taskuli12
@Taskuli12 7 жыл бұрын
Serrated Frost and i think its only from blocked heavy attacks
@giveitarub7215
@giveitarub7215 7 жыл бұрын
That is true yes. And any good player would parry the hell out of you
@Amfortas
@Amfortas 7 жыл бұрын
Stamina Regen and Exhaustion Recovery, what's actually the difference...?
@Murlak
@Murlak 7 жыл бұрын
as long as your stamina isn't used up, it's the stamina regen, if you use everything up, you get exhausted and exhaustion recovery kicks in.
@nickgonzalez6389
@nickgonzalez6389 7 жыл бұрын
do I choose block damage or execution health regen
@db7340
@db7340 7 жыл бұрын
Nick Gonzalez both are pretty shite
@TheBjcn
@TheBjcn 7 жыл бұрын
We should notify the dev team of this because this is very poorly balanced
@vincentr5779
@vincentr5779 7 жыл бұрын
at 1:53 the one on the left does more damge totally (lowest attack) total:71 the right side (highest attack) does a little less at a total of 64 so it seems the higher attack i see that its light, heavy, heavy on the left.its light,light, heavy on the right. shouldnt you use the same combo to get a more accurate result you say to compair the second number but they are different
@fkkfreeze
@fkkfreeze 7 жыл бұрын
only the last, uncombo'd heavy is relevant in that case. All the other attacks are just to make sure 1 heavy kills the person.
@SirAwesome5auce
@SirAwesome5auce 7 жыл бұрын
Can you redo this for season 2 please
@joechilson5790
@joechilson5790 7 жыл бұрын
I like how u broke it down but could have went a little slower and then go in detail but good vid
@jeremystery
@jeremystery 7 жыл бұрын
im a big fan of throw distance on my warden
@BloodMillas
@BloodMillas 2 жыл бұрын
Bean Freeze
@darymetal
@darymetal 7 жыл бұрын
Oh my god i hoped 1.3 would have fixed some of these.....nope Defense, revenge attack and revenge on block are disgustingly broken, i had people calling me cheater because i was winning 3v1 with that bullshit Shugoki with defense max is one of the stupidest things ever, you may as well just alt +f4, and with raider revenge gear i instakilled people at 70% HP, it's mindblowing (top heavy should do 88dmg) Stamina regen is another pretty crazy stat, you can get it for free since you can balance it out with revive which is too fast by default
@jamesm1816
@jamesm1816 7 жыл бұрын
cant believe some stats do basically nothing
@kaellindney6800
@kaellindney6800 7 жыл бұрын
"pretty much impossible to measure distance in this game" get a buddy, pick a character, stand at a spot that you would be able to easily find again (Palisades and Crenelations/Merlons would probably work best), GB your friend form that exact spot multiple times for accuracy, ramp up or ramp down the gear stat, rinse, repeat. you aren't going to get an exact measurement but you should be able to at least get a general idea of how the stat effects throw distance for that character in particular. maybe make that sperate video just don't say it can't be done because I put all this together in my head moments after you said it can't be measured.
@fkkfreeze
@fkkfreeze 7 жыл бұрын
looking forward to your video :)
@kaellindney6800
@kaellindney6800 7 жыл бұрын
freeze would if I could but, for now, I'm a console player with no means of making and editing a video.
@giveitarub7215
@giveitarub7215 7 жыл бұрын
debuff resistance helps a lot against peacekeepers. Without debuff a peacekeepers triple stab does I think 37 damage for the bleed and the stabs. With max debuff resistance I think it does about 20 damage. plays.tv/video/58ca92336b956ff314/-?from=user
@Dasmesee
@Dasmesee 7 жыл бұрын
throw distance?
@muadhib001
@muadhib001 7 жыл бұрын
Didn't you listen? Distance is not practical to measure in the game
@TheAtomicMango
@TheAtomicMango 7 жыл бұрын
Yeah, that's bullshit.
@thomasfitz
@thomasfitz 7 жыл бұрын
Really there is not much gear in this game - its best to focus on your skill
@johnnunya5428
@johnnunya5428 7 жыл бұрын
Revenge builds. Get busy revenging or get busy dying.
@vincentr5779
@vincentr5779 7 жыл бұрын
also does sprint speed affect side swiping or dodging
@kyronix560
@kyronix560 4 жыл бұрын
wow, this crap is gnarly. glad they did away with this.
@bkehlin
@bkehlin 7 жыл бұрын
There's a major difference for consoles. They only run at 30 fps, and moving a mouse 1mm to change guards is faster than a controller thumb stick, which is about 3mm. There are probably a half dozen other differences.
@lucasbrucas9632
@lucasbrucas9632 7 жыл бұрын
brian ehlin he meant in gear stat, there's no difference.
@bkehlin
@bkehlin 7 жыл бұрын
Lucas Bruno Hey ass mouth, there's no need to even mention it if it's a redundant point.
@lucasbrucas9632
@lucasbrucas9632 7 жыл бұрын
brian ehlin if you realized what he meant then why did you post an even more redundant comment?
@jamesevans9236
@jamesevans9236 2 жыл бұрын
Bruh
@Budisgud69
@Budisgud69 5 жыл бұрын
I miss gear stats...
@Beery1962
@Beery1962 7 жыл бұрын
"Block damage is the amount of damage your heavy attacks do on the block". I doubt it. Are you sure you're measuring block damage right? Since block damage is a feature of the tunic (and not the blocking weapon), I would imagine it actually has nothing to do with block, and is more a factor of hits that are NOT blocked by the weapon. In other words, I think "block damage" is a misnomer - it should be "non-block damage reduction". If you test unblocked hits, I suspect you'll see the difference there.
@Pansizzle
@Pansizzle 7 жыл бұрын
Yes, thats what it does. Its been tested and it is every guide about stat usage.
@hacnsm
@hacnsm 7 жыл бұрын
>no throwing distance Wow, what a trash study. 0/10 No throws, no hoes.
@Tu-cv9ei
@Tu-cv9ei 7 жыл бұрын
Throw distance is different for each hero. Assassins seems to have terrible throw distance. I play warden and warlord mostly, and they seem to have good/great even with low throw distance.
@christianestrada6992
@christianestrada6992 7 жыл бұрын
Tuminator So wat test all em bitches
@AcitoriaVakarianIdunno
@AcitoriaVakarianIdunno 7 жыл бұрын
+Tuminator Yep. As someone put it rather well, "Throw Distance is based on how big the character is." Which basically means that characters like Shugoki and Lawbringer have some of the best base throw distance while say... All the assassins have pretty horrible throw distance.
@draconiandraco
@draconiandraco 7 жыл бұрын
Shugoki actually throws as far as a raider with full throw distance if you throw them backwards, it looks so janky it's hilarious
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