For Honor - When shouldn't you deflect?

A quite talked about topic, so I thought I'd shed some light on the nuances.
This is by no means a full list of all punishes, but it should give you a good idea about what to look for.
Next video(s) will probably be right on Thursday when they release the reworks. There was no early access, so we all have to wait for the actual release.
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[@doge5401]

>I don't mind that deflecting certain attacks will leave you open for counterplay Why should anyone be punished for performing a counterattack that's harder to perform than a *parry* but supposed to be more rewarding? No, if someone deflects it should be confirmed damage, no trading. It's already really unsafe to do and very hard to perform against good opponents. :/

[@krystalmess_7699]

Learn when to deflect and maybe you wont trade

[@doge5401]

Oh okay. The move that's more high risk than a fucking parry and generally gives less damage should be more punishable, right?

[@riccardosirigu4666]

Except it's not, parry is committed, if you fuck up the deflect and do it too early you can still do a side attack, as for the parry you need to feint it and then you may not have time to react

[@doge5401]

Except you're wrong. Parry isn't "committed", you can feint that, and on most characters you'll be able to CGB if the person tries to GB you. Hell, if you just let it fly in almost every circumstance they'll eat a heavy if they try to GB, making punishing a parry attempt a guessing game for both parties except in rare circumstances. If you fuck up a deflect you're either going to eat a GB or the person can wait and react to a dashing attack for a free parry punish. That's not even the mention the fact that parry punishes are much better overall with the exception of Shinobi's deflect and Gladiator's deflect *if there's a wall nearby*. So parries are not only safer and easier to perform, but provide better punishes in almost every circumstance. You can't seriously be trying to tell me that this is balanced, can you?

[@jynxed66six54]

more damage than a parry? i dont think you are using deflects well. lets use orochi. a deflect can net in instant, unavoidable bar of damage with base stats and then continue the combo after. if the enemy doesnt have hyper armour (which SHOULD prevent the attack from stunning) its easy to get the flustered enemy into a guardbreak and heavy hit. a parry nets you two lights off a heavy, and one heavy off a light. the enemy isnt flustered, we've all been parried, and can easily punish anything you try to continue with. deflects really do surprise people. as to why countering a deflect should be doable, they deal a lot of damage and allow combos to be done more fluidly. its up to you to make sure that damage actually comes out. and in most cases, it is definitely doing damage, hurricane blast is the only deflect that can be completely countered. but if you decide to deflect and counter someone who has hyper armour, its only fair they trade with you, its your mistake. what you are saying is you dont want the challenge of actually timing the deflect, just throwing it out and always coming out on top. if hyper armour didnt stop a deflect, then shugoki would become completely useless

[@drfrankendoodle]

The valk sweep doesn’t interrupt HA because it is coded as an attack by the game. Same reason it gets auto parried. Great vid as always freeze. Someday I’ll get contacted to do some testing...someday lol

[@fkkfreeze]

I KNOW!!! 😣 I should've worded it differently. It's not so much the what, but thw WHY that I don't know :D It also applies sharpen blade bleed fyi ;) And aren't you westcoast frank? we're like 9h apart. But ye, I'll bother you eventually, hehe

[@drfrankendoodle]

freeze lol yeah I figured you knew but wanted to say it anyway for anyone else that was wondering. And yeah I am west coast.

[@GeneralForster]

Let's be honest, no one ever deflects for any reason other than style points

[@madaboutit2306]

for shinobi its his most damaging option, 20 dmg bleed followed by a 25 damage range heavy its very strong in 1v1s

[@jynxed66six54]

i always land the light after a deflect and then just keep going with lights. why kick them? the heavy isnt guaranteed, its easy to parry

[@jynxed66six54]

mhhh, ive never landed it or seen someone else land it. whatever though

[@quintenboosje2437]

Peacekeeper deflect gb triple bleed does MAJOR bleeding damage

[@twilightofgod1960]

@@quintenboosje2437 Actually Pk's Deflect with 20 normal and 15 bleed damage (35) is her strongest move exept for her GB punish with is 6 normal and 32 bleed (38) (Heavy only deals 20 damage (31 with the light who ends the combo))

[@pixelnassisin]

Likely because valks sweep uses a heavy input not a bash input

[@yungmalaria]

It’s because it doesn’t count as a bash move I don’t think, it gets parried with revenge activation. I bet you could test the same thing with gladiator by doing jumping light into toestab.

[@pixelnassisin]

yung malaria you are probably right about that

[@eirikmarthinsen3850]

Zerk zone is 4 hits. Thats 80 dmg in bleed alone with the zone. total 104 dmg.

[@papabonito310]

It’s a mid mouse button (or are u console)

[@safairette]

@@papabonito310 Pre-rework Valk man

[@Baxtyr]

if anyone is curious about when going for a deflect truly is the "smarter choice" consider deflecting side attacks on the light attack timing. If your opponent goes for side light they get deflected, heavy they get dodged (mostly) and heavy feint gb can be interrupted with dash attack. Similar to using a zone parry, your opponent has to make a read on your counter and use a very specific counter back to succeed in baiting you, while you cover 3 or more of his offensive options. I often use this tactic in Zerk v Zerk to safely defend from neutral when im not sure of a hard read.

[@jynxed66six54]

i mean, the only assassins i use are orochi and pk, so anyone but beserker is free game for me. i still dont get his hyperarmour system, hes an assassin character who can trade hits with shugoki and come out on top. i think its not fair at all, but whatever. hurricane blast is basically useless at higher tier play unless you know the enemy always tries a combo, for example, if a lawbringer has done a shove into a light and then heavy, even if you dodge the shove, then i just got for it. the trade is worth it, depending on health values. but normally the instant version is better.

[@johnadams1667]

Joseph Payne in fighting game terms hes a rushdown character, his hyperarmor and newfound speed is meant to feed into that and force his opponent to play on the backfoot, also literally everyone can come out on top against shug,its a problem,they didnt use his good swole boi concept art and they made him the dan of for honor because making a tank of a man is hard apparently

[@jynxed66six54]

shogoku isnt bad by any means. if you trade with him, he can do well. the issue is the only character who can trade better than him is a light character. it makes no sense to me. if you want to give him some hyperarmour thats fine, but he gets it on every single attack if played right, its stupid. assassins are meant to be quick, light characters but beserk can trade better than heavies. its not fun to play against, because it reinforces this playstyle of people just throwing out random attacks before they even get close enough because then its too late to stop them.

[@johnadams1667]

Joseph Payne hes absolutely garbage, he has literally nothing and if you arent just mindlessly right bumpering youll win

[@Jack-on8oq]

Warden top heavy dash is a free deflect and it's so satisfying

[@yungmalaria]

I got PTSD from you hitting that warlord before his hyperarmor startup, I hate that stuff so much.

[@fkkfreeze]

if it makes you feel better... PK can do it too 😝

[@pixelnassisin]

Just git gud and activate your hyperarmour earlier nerd

[@yungmalaria]

freeze pls stop

[@ZeeshanMalik455wasup]

yung malaria why are you on every for honor vid stop killing kids boi

[@muzimuzi]

Luckily you don't get PTSD that easily

[@kilerdude56]

Jokes on you, my boi Shinobi can deflect and interrupt Berserkers strikes via teleporting. Nothing personal, kid.

[@TalonDillard]

FeelsValkMan even deflects ignore how weak she is

[@TheLogander]

Her deflect reflect her lack of effect

[@ianperry8557]

Talon Dillard Her sweep can even get parried if you’re externally sweeping an opponent and they parry an ally right as you sweep

[@Criiies]

For some reason the devs coded valks sweep as though it is a normal attack. If you use any other bash against somebody busy popping revenge nothing will happen, but if somebody pops it as you're leg sweeping valk gets knocked over

[@orishina8169]

It is coded like that because you have to press S + heavy (am on computer) to do this move, so it's an heavy attack for the game XD.

[@illusions500]

TSC Orishina that's true, it's just like gladiators skewer

[@drip_gami458]

I think deflecting should be an assassins go to. Not parrying. Parrying for assassins should be less rewarding. They have deflects in their kit, but never use them. I main shaman, and her deflect is extremely good. But its so risky to deflect, that if I need to add bleed pressure, if I parry a heavy I can just heavy soft feint bleed top and its guaranteed to land. Its safer to parry than deflect. And in my opinion, every assassin should have to deflect options. Just like orochi. Also like you said Freeze, this is debatable... But I believe deflecting should go through hyperarmor. But only one the quick deflects. Long deflects you should be able to trade.

[@jynxed66six54]

then that defeats the point of hyper armour. it means shugoki becomes much, much less viable than he his. if his hyper armour passive doesnt let him punish people who decide to deflect, he has no way to beat assassins that can dodge with the right timing. go watch a shugoki vs shinobi and tell me that looks fair

[@blayzeplayz4580]

This video shows that berserk’s deflect is superior to all deflects.

[@fkkfreeze]

actually shinobi's is ;)

[@MUGEN4ever]

nah. zerks leads to a guard break wer he can proceed to destroy yu with his heavy afterwards.

[@runar1188]

you can deal a bar and a half with shinobi plus the teleport, shinobi has the best deflect

[@fkkfreeze]

it's 2 full bars (50 damage) for shinobi's deflect

[@runar1188]

ah mb

[@David_Vitek]

First time I deflected a zerker, I quickly realized that was a really, really bad idea.

[@Salacavalini]

Valk's sweep is coded more like a (directionless) attack than a bash, similar to Glad's toe stab except it deals 0 damage. This is also why you can autoparry it with Revenge or by being Sweeped when parrying her teammates.

[@TH3G3RM4NGUY]

Deflects should have superior block and completely stop combos. The reason being they are much more risky than parries. Parries use a heavy input so if you miss the timing or if you get parried yourself you get punished with a light. On a deflect you dodge therefore you can be punished on your dodge and give up a GB to heavy. Also deflect for orochi is almost always better than his light light punish though it is circumstantial who you should use it on. Kensei zone guarantees heavy deflect and it is easier to deflect it than to block it. Highlander finisher top heavy also guarantees heavy deflect.

[@PunkkRatt]

Shamans deflect attack animation is so smooth

[@Ostrid1]

Omg valkyrie finally has something over the assassin's Her superior block on dodge works more like a deflect than a actual block on dodge I don't know why tho it makes no sense it should work like conqueror But it does interrupt attacks so you can use it on anyone because they can't continue their chain And shoulderpin followed by the guaranteed side light is more damage than a light parry

[@johnadams1667]

Because valk is a hybrid with assassins and her shoulderpin is a deflect

[@AllantheBob]

You can dodge out of a heavy deflect as Orochi. So you can deflect the second attack coming at you from berserker. But the third is unblockable so that sucks.

[@nicksmith7962]

Typically, I use deflects when I fight people like orochi, warden or other people need light openers for their viable moves. I do it because a dodge input is fast than heavy imputs, (I'm on console, that's why it matters #consoleneeds60frames) of course if I can predict it well enough I'll parry it to start chains.

[@DrDeaddddd]

Dodge input is definitely not faster than heavy input, and no it doesn't matter that you are on console.

[@Baxtyr]

deflect has 100ms of startup on dash before it actually works so you should have 25% more time to parry a 500ms attack rather than go for a deflect. (you cant parry or deflect the last 100ms of an attack)

[@nicksmith7962]

Baxtyr Yeah, but generally, unless they catch you with a soft feint, if a warden throws a side light (it's an example, I know they're slow) if I try to deflect it, I don't get hit. If I miss the time, I don't get hit. It's just generally safer than a parry.

[@Baxtyr]

if he throws heavy and feints its pretty much a 50/50 whether or not you're going to get punished though and dash attack is often considered a light parry. It can be dangerous to go for too often, top attacks are also much riskier to deflect on the light timing since heavies will bop you good.

[@nicksmith7962]

Baxtyr That's why I parry heavies though. They're all easy to parry, with the exception of cent who I try to overwhelm instead of my usual slower style of play.

[@Darkatlas_23]

I think it should. The reason is because it's stronger then a parry but has a full action to make. You should be able to punish them reguardless. If you miss it, I.e. to late or to soon on the action, they can do a faint and punish you with a grab or a quick attack. Same with a parry, the only difference is they can do another faint.

[@tristenpina3850]

Great job on this video, you're too good for this game's community. A lot of stuff to be learned here.

[@BarakYEET]

When you play berserker cause I always fuck up the input.

[@enollis1829]

I'm on your side regarding the hyperarmor from zerk and stuff like that. But imo the deflect shouldn't get interrupted by a simple push like conq or headbut. Deflects are kinda ment to be superior attacks. High risk for high reward. And if it's that easy to avoid getting deflected there is pertty much not point in doing so. Another thing is the Timing. You can sure deflect a zerk but mostly if you know that this zone or attack is going to drain his stamina. Like that you avoid trading massive damage. this is actually the most effective deflect. Because in orochis case you can just cancel the heavy deflect into gb and get 2 heavys out of throwing your opponent to the ground.

[@Relhio]

This is something I never even thought about... I think I only noticed this odd interraction maybe just once or twice when my opponent did it, since I don't play assassins. I honestly think deflects should be a a bit more rewarding, but they usually do more than enough damage so I don't know how they can be changed.

[@wolvenedvard3049]

Oh shit. Remember the comment about deflects I wrote on your video about the latest patch? I never seen this video and I was just talking about this, and so I find out it’s been like this for a while 😂. Thanks, and I’m sorry LOL

[@fkkfreeze]

don't be sorry, hehe people hate that deflects get beaten by hyperarmor. and often they dont even realize what just happened

[@wolvenedvard3049]

freeze Ahah yeah I’m sad for gladiator’s deflect against hyper armour, because at least peacekeeper, shaman, shaolin and nuxia deal a good quantity of damage in that deflect action, even if it gets interrupted. Gladiator ends up dealing 6 bleed damage if he gets interrupted by a hyper armour hit, it’s so sad. They should buff that interrupted skewer at least 20/25 damage, and keep the full skewer at its 36.

[@DungeoDefender007]

The reason I think deflects should interrupt hyper armor is because they're punishes. Imagine everyone having Shugoki-style hyper armor when they get parried. It turns a punish into a trade.

[@spegwettie9053]

I think orochi should have the only deflect counter play because of his heavy deflect. Now if they made deflecting much easier than yes, or another way to get into the attack than sure. They did rework the side deflects by the time I wrote this, but I hope they can somehow make deflect attacks become a combo thing. Kinda like how you have to dodge a BP shield bash after a light. For example, peacekeeper can have her top light from heavy become something you have to dodge. There is a lot more to it than that but its an idea.

[@LuxLuciferVT]

Valk’s trip doesn’t interrupt hyper armor because trip isn’t a bash, it’s a directionless unblockable that doesn’t deal damage. That... also covers bashes but there’s a difference between trip and shield bash, and you can tell this difference because, when activating revenge, Trip will bounce off Auto-Parry and Valk will fall over, but Shield Bash will simply continue without moving your character.

[@johnadams1667]

Theres some i dont mind but as a whole i dislike if only because the game doesnt treat all special counters that way, if my deflect can be beaten if you read it i should also be able to beat a wardens cc, a conqs all guard followup and everything of the sort,even if its borderline frame perfect inputs like the assassin crushing counter parry was before they patched it out.its a special counter in a characters kit, if you arent going to make it guaranteed every time i dont think any special counters should be guaranteed, but i also think after youre parried you should have the opportunity to parry at a very strict timing, 3rd strike strict.you shouldnt be able to block but you should get the chance to parry

[@poseidonpwnsall]

John Adams i dont know if it was just a glitch but I dont think conquerors is always guaranteed. If you use all guard on centurion's zone attack u can get hit out of the counter. Dunno if theres anything else that does it tho

[@johnadams1667]

poseidonpwnsall that might be one of the few moves that arent guarenteed, but its cents zone so even if you eat the second hit you can just reall block the 3rd or parry it, its not really a viable counter

[@poseidonpwnsall]

John Adams i know its not viable but it is just an interesting little exchange that can happen that I wanted to share

[@sunbropooks7450]

It's satisfying for me when I shoulder bash a orochi when he is about to do a wind gust makes me feel like he got cucked by ubisoft

[@Viper3220]

Julian Medina - They got cucked the minute they decided to main Orochi. Such a god awful class

[@xavierh.5102]

IMO they either need to buff deflect attack damage or make them untradable, they're harder than parries, can't counter unblockables, and give the same if not less reward. they shouldn't be so much more punishable on top of all that.

[@DeathTheWarning]

A Valk light has interrupted my hurricane blast multiple times

[@J_just_J_yes]

Hi Freeze, do you think a distinction should be made for armor of Shugoki level and Zerk level? I have always called Zerk level armor Super armor while Shugoki level is Hyper armor. The differences between them as far as i can see is against "displacement" attack like bashes/shove. Hyper armor completely nullify that while Super armor only block attack based interruption ( i have no idea why Valk sweep isn't a displacement, maybe because it used to do dmg?). Hyper armor can be found for revenge mode, which i think is a nice attention to detail so Zerk revenge does make some differences. However, i found it really really annoying that somehow Shinobi has HYPER armor on his kick, it doesn't make sense, and really2 unfair against character like warden. Regarding this video, specifically about the Gladiator, i think his "pin" deflect should go through super armor. Fact is, they already did that to his toestab. It got a phantom buff where it used to be unable to stop super armor, but now it can. Not sure why, but i think they turn it into a "grab" move rather than a pin

[@jynxed66six54]

the sweep is counted as a heavy attack by the system, not a bash. and it makes sense, its not a bash. its like lawbringers impale, not a bash. i think they only count it as a bash move if theres a front on impact, like a shield. and berserk is way too powerful with the hyperarmour. i think everyone forgets hes an assassin, hes meant to be the fast attacker of the vikings. and yet here he is, having the best hyper armour in the game and can even outtrade shugoki. thats his whole thing, it doesnt make any sesne

[@thickbmo3108]

Shinobi is an exception he teleports behind and counters hyper armor because of the stun during the deflect

[@jynxed66six54]

yeah i think the instant you deflect and teleport it does an attack before any hyper armour can activate. so he doesnt ignore it, he just never has to deal with it

[@RafaelSilva-qz3os]

Deflects are a superior move, they should not be interrupted. If do, raise the dmg, or make mixups for heavier outplays

[@emipiz2663]

For the valkyrie, i think her sweep is not considered a bash, the weapon becomes orange like an unblockable

[@07derka]

Don’t sleep on the style points man. Parries may be the better option most of the time, but styling on someone can greatly demoralize them, causing massive psychological damage

[@lmao9692]

Two changes for glad: 1: His Skewer needs hyper armor. Why the hell is there so many ways to counter it? 2: His punch could also have hyper armor. I only use the punch to interrupt the hyper armor of other characters and it usually doesn't give anything.

[@benrobbo2902]

1:34 you could have dodged into the next attack mid hurricane blast for a deflect hurricane its not a real named combo but nova king does it

[@thehartmann]

Valk's sweep also gets "parried" by revenge on activation. Stupid if you ask me, killed me multiple times in 4v4 modes already and I'm Rep 2 with her

[@handlesarecringe957]

It’s a good thing you can cancel hurricane blast with other deflects then

[@a40dollardlc64]

Deflects with Unblockable perk should beat hyper armor but bleed deflects (shaman and PK) shouldn’t since they are considered lights

[@strikeforce1500]

I learned to not Deflect Berserk in an ugly way. Though about Kensei (or any other hero with HA) I would recommend to deflect the attack that do have Hyper Armor,

[@DaniUsagi]

I hope someday you make a video about raider's and warlord's running "grabs". About how fast they actually are, because of the tracking. I feel that many times i dodge it correctly but the tracking just screws with me. It's like after a certain time you'll be hit, even if you dodge because of the tracking, so the actual dodge window is even smaller. By the way I really appreciate your work with For Honor, i really enjoy studying it. Thanks

[@fkkfreeze]

ye, good idea. Might as well include shinobi& conq with their running bashes/charges thx

[@nolangoltz6601]

Dani Usagi yeah and I want to know why you cant activate revenge when you are getting hit with crowd control such as conq bash or raiders running grab

[@davidemagliocco9119]

Interesting video as usual ! GG

[@ivanfranebijelic7009]

Bit of an outlying and minor issue but I do think pins should ignore armor

[@ldpatton42]

Mfw as a PK main there was no info specifically for pk in this vid

[@XtremeK1ll4]

Doesn't Valkyrie sweep actually count as an attack, IIRC you can parry it if you parried another attack prior.

[@FlutterDashie]

Nice video. On balance part I am okay with hyperarmor beating deflect but I want it out of the game because deflects are just too cool

[@HOAX-1157]

Peacekeeper's deflect stab should ignore hyper armor. It's by far the weakest deflect with the least reward; at least give the advantage of stopping a combo entirely if well executed.

[@boombadaboom7819]

I don’t want to start it again but please do something with nuxias deflect

[@fernandoguzman4202]

Amazing video I love your videos.. great scientifical videos and I have become a new sub

[@Iceblade269]

I think deflects should stop chains unless the attack had hyperarmor. It’s infuriating defleclting a Kensei just for him to hit me with a follow up light

[@PurpleOfRain]

FeelsValkMan

[@MXAntian]

Valk's case is because her swap was considered a heavy attack. Not anymore tho.

[@fkkfreeze]

oh that's a good catch... now that the input has changed, it should work like the other bashes. cheers man!

[@MXAntian]

Cheers! I really like your content. A lots details a lots numbers, I love numbers.

[@tendericed2749]

I only find it annoying in case of fighting a berserker. He gets to much hyperarmour for my taste. Eaven when interrupting a combo-string with a feint, but thats something else.

[@Carlos.JR.]

Why would be ok to a deflect punish be countered/ignored/stopped? Parry punishes can't be, so why a warder move has to be weaker????? Just as parries, deflects should have a guaranteed punish.

[@repodan12]

As the game stands the majority of the cast has a hyperarmored attack, so every time gladiator and other assassins deflects become pointless.

[@k.j.littlejohn4362]

I'm suprised I didn't see valks shoulder pin at all😔

[@jensonbrammer2340]

I never understood why you can't deflect unblockables. What do you guys think about being able to deflect unblockables?

[@nolangoltz6601]

Jenson Brammer you can deflect unblockables

[@granpa7068]

ImNolan_ no you can’t

[@KpY1337]

I'd like it, even if they impliment something like a tighter window but the attacker would take more damage

[@thekirbycrafter7229]

I think the reason why Deflect cannot be used on UnBs is because it’s a dodge, so your guard is down, and it’s how the old Deflect was, where the Assassin just had to time their block

[@TheArchiveGaming]

KENSEI IS OP !!!!

[@scooty4743]

What do you recommend to practice deflects

[@austinw3030]

Yea but if they make it where you can deflect hyperarmor attacks well then there gonna leave shogoki in the hole

[@christopherparks4342]

The sweep doesnt stop hurricane blast because Ubi wants everyone to know that they hsve intentionally made Valkyries weak. I'm not sure why they hate Valks so much

[@reaperofsouls321]

I really hate Berserker's armor.. sorry not sorry.. but that character is too dam tiny and puny to have so much armor..

[@johnadams1667]

Wernher Faull manlet rage

[@patriceuebe4599]

I knew it already but it is a pretty nice vid

[@thickbmo3108]

Shinobi is kinda the only exception

[@Ro-Ghost]

Is Valks shoulder pin identical to gladiators?

[@alexthezephyr]

Gladiator's deflect is so cool tho :c

[@dyousmodj3845]

useful. every time.

[@swedishmeatball705]

i had a really really intense fight with a shinobi, deflected him and he could somehow jump back and grab me cause i deflected

[@jester4057]

Valks gets avoided because its a dodge maybe?

[@anguta216]

i find they way to unsafe even to think about using this in a real fight is too much for me

[@jesseeastman5913]

Reflex guards are shit. To give an example look at glad, you will frequently get hit through your guard with all assasins because the enemy can time fast attacks to when it will end but with glad especially. I feel like deflects are there to offer a assasin specific defensive option but with glad its useless when the opponent can just keep spamming and will go through your counter. It's easier for people with static guards to get parries simply because it locks out one of the 3 attacking directions, that is really strong when you think about it. Assasins dont get better dodges, they dont have exclusive dodge attacks (even though we dont get bashes with guarenteed damage like the static guards) instead we get deflects and a shit guard as the unique thing to the class. It needs to be guarenteed. It's not like a bash where you just have to throw the attack out whenever, it's harder to get than a parry (esspecially without a static guard) so why is it so easily shrugged off and under whelming for the majority of the cast. I think deflects should do 10 more damage that a light parry when most of the time its equal, barely any more if it's a bleed or you're fighting one of the many heros that have chains to punish a move that's meant to punish catching an attack. To repeat that last point, In design deflects are meant to punish catching an attack but can be negated by the person just continuing to attack. Wtf were they thinking.

[@anthonyg3372]

Shinobi is the really good for deflects

[@RafaelSantos-pi8py]

All i got from this is that Valk needs a buff.

[@DMundus]

can you counter a deflect gb from berzerker ?

[@fkkfreeze]

no you cannot

[@vaper8824]

Can you parry and unblock-able ?

[@vaper8824]

Gaming Dood I got the game 2 months ago dose that count daddy ?

[@vaper8824]

Gaming Dood don’t fucking hell at me ! You silly goose

[@vaper8824]

Gaming Dood I guess you don’t watch American dad you silly goose

[@as_thebests1359]

Heavy orochi deflect should be completely interruptible

[@patriceuebe4599]

Btw could u discuss ur ingame settings

[@fkkfreeze]

what you mean? graphics settings? controller settings? or something else?

[@patriceuebe4599]

freeze well graphics basically

[@fkkfreeze]

everything on low with render setting at 80%. I only have a 970, so to reach 144fps, I need to turn everything down quite a bit.

[@patriceuebe4599]

freeze well I got a 1060 6gb so shall I go for the 100% render skale?

[@fkkfreeze]

as long as you reach the fps target of your monitor you can turn it up as high as possible :)

[@rohithkumarsp]

When you say deflect it means parry?

[@OverBlackSands]

Rohith Kumar no. You parry with the heavy attack but deflect with the dodge. Not all characters have it. You basically dodge into the attack as it's about to hit and you do a deflect.

[@saikaiu2461]

you should never deflect when you play on console! much respect for every enemy who got them safe.

[@jwalcheski]

Bro I can't even deflect

[@shaunstafford3353]

Putting your actual skin tone >

[@gabe570]

Where's pk 🙁

[@fkkfreeze]

PK has the exact same properties as shaman

[@diegodlv1001]

Freeze it's 3:30AM, go to sleep

[@specter_of_thestars2500]

diegodlv1001 He’s awake on the other side of the pond. He’s most likely in a morning or afternoon timeframe

[@broly7643]

yukari it's 11:09 eastern time in the us right now. No one said the world revolves around the u.s

[@MUGEN4ever]

at least for hurricane blast. cmon now. y make the biggest aspect of a character (counter attacker) useless against another.

[@darkwolfyt6443]

Don’t deflect or play the game at all until they nerf raider

[@metallichurch]

sadvalk

[@broxim9668]

I don't like deflects since they give every character who has them (Often Assassins, inherently good heroes) a tool other characters don't have. In many cases it is just the tip of the iceberg, like Shaman and Shinobi applying bleed and punishing you for attacking them respectively. And I think most of them are over the top anime.

[@RatsInSpaceSuits]

take an assassins ability to parry completely. Fuck assassins.

[@StayFrostyOfficial]

But gladiator is broken and op hahahha

[@bigrob10p]

in what world?

[@Viper3220]

Assassins suck and deflecting is terribly impractical

[@AlexHyena1]

berserker’s hyper-armour is BS

[@tnave80]

Yes hipper armor should stop hipper armor. 100% agree.

[@Danec1234]

Woah 666 likes

[@Danec1234]

Made it 667 tho

[@brazengo6763]

Leave it be

[@varagianafro9755]

deflect is rly poor mechanic

[@kola7926]

heh im early

[@Gino-Folgore]

In English please nah I’m just playin