For Honor - Y8S1 Patch Rundown - Medjay & PK Reworks

A week late, but whatever.
2 reworks dropped last Thursday, here's the rundown of them.
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[@izorsky]

I actually enjoy fighting against Medjays with this patch, they now use the full moveset rather than living within uninterruptable armor chains.

[@SPARTON0Weezy]

THIS! Beyblading in 4s with the wild external range and damage and when you try to get in there or retaliate yer eating like 40dmg or more cuz now he’s in revenge somehow

[@theswiftphil8789]

"Full moveset" usage is irrelivent unless youre a highlander playing in tournaments for money and scrims with side bets. Seriously for honor characters are DEAD ASS the samr 99% across the board in move data, speed, recoveries, properties, mixups, and damage numbers.... Like jesus fuck the game was less fair but everyone who has played more than 2 consistent years of this game (I'm going in my 6th) misses the character identity and imbalance of old for honor where everything is reactable and either you get ultra creative or lose to for honor now... Where combat has viable movesets but in order to achieve this... Everyones movesets became the fucking same with minimal irrelivent variation in 1 gimmick or another being slightly different than what its copied off and powercrept... Seriouslt play highlander its the last true fun there is in this game cause you have the only fair, viable, unique, and skill intensive moveset that is used creatively against the generic movesets of today by virtue of being different. and it warms the hearts what few REAL 'knowers' there are left playing this game to be told the last REAL for honor character remaining in existence isn't being ruined this season with this ass rework that removes everything that made highlander unique, skill intensive and fun by removing his most crucial tool in wave tech, "wave tech allows the dodge known as wave dashing, quick cancels out of offensive to parry or crushing counter interruptions, exit offensive quickly to roll catch with celtic curse.... And to exit offensive stance frame 1 after a dodge in order to parry like normal characters can after a dodge OR use the defensive dodge attack seamlessly after a wave dash cancel for maximum startup.... With this rework they remove all this shit annnndddd.... Give him a feintable kick bash, a roll catch caber toss... And dodge attack out of offensive stance... Theyre legit fucking brain dead because with some time, pracrice and ya know, skill... You can do all that shit with highlander RIGHT NOW... And have even stronger potential if your reads and mechanical skill are on point every time... But no lets just make every single interaction of offense simple and liniar so any retard clutching a controller 15 feet away from their ROKU flat screen can effortlessly make use of 3 buttons in order to have a chance in the X%/Y% rock paper scissors stew.... of winning games remember that long period when everything was really bad offense and everyone had to play super mechanically deep with their reads and moveset to get damage in? Yea highlander still has that age moveset but he was the 1st high level viable character in the game... People think hes garbage cause 0.5% of the playerbase actually invests the time to know his kit and learn his potential through trial and error... People just cant stand not picking up a character and being able to win... Yea bucko... Its a fighting game... You should suck before you learn your movesrt and matchups... But when every FH hero is the same you play 1 youve played em all...

[@hectorlopez9453]

Sounds like fuckin hitokiri -__-

[@thaqifkhirudin6610]

I actually long prefer the deflect to be a light input. Because all her bleed sources come from light inputs.

[@zoglu8166]

That and accidental deflects won’t happen from Dodge attacking now since they are different buttons

[@jonmann4980]

I agree it feels far more intuitive to have it be a light input

[@kylerawdin6838]

I loved the light input but now I have grown used to the heavy and it’s difficult to go back. Ubi PICK A LANE

[@ashisakiashikubi6597]

I still say that PK changes were a patch Not a rework

[@robzilla8084]

that medjay change is a rare af W from the devs.... its like finding a diamond in a bucket of shit.

[@cillblinton8181]

ikr, its perfect from conception to execution. really well thought through, unlike every other "rework" in recent times

[@daug3607]

Medjay chain zone my beloved

[@aureliourielalcachofoortal2167]

I'm very happy with this ^-^

[@frogaroach]

Interesting changes, sounds like they are all pretty good

[@kinroga]

I so happy about the deflect botton change. It kept messing me up when going for deflects cause shes the only one where its the same attack botton as her dodge attack and i kept pressing light

[@KnudAutlermann]

Medjey actually looks fun to play now!

[@fearlessretaliator4997]

Hiii mr.Freeze

[@screendoor_]

Wow some missing one warriors den and I missed soo much stuff I didn’t know these reworks were happening

[@jt8721]

Does anybody know whatever happened with Highlander's testing grounds? Is he still getting reworked?

[@NoNamesAreAllowed]

I believe jc said he will be released in tu 2

[@alphadaslaya]

Yup HL’s will be dropping title update 2

[@roykiefer-tr1dr]

​@@NoNamesAreAllowed I hope he isn't ruined like Conqueror, Lawbringer, and Jormangandr. They're reworks nerfed them to the point they're not fun to play.

[@NoNamesAreAllowed]

@@roykiefer-tr1dr lb i understand calling it a nerf, conq only feels worse after the bash changes, since he is mostly just more boring, which he has always been, jorm most definitely was not nerfed and in his case there are 0 arguments you can make to say so besides the damage on the unblock knockdown to slam, when someone was out of stam. Lb losing impale on heavy is a good thing, obviously they did not give him the things he needed, or just qol like the triple light chain etc. Conq losing the ability to option select with the cc on heavy is also good, the zone could have stayed after the removal of os. To finish this cause i just woke up, Highlander already seems like his main buff will be feintable kick, better fast flow to offensive, so he might become a little more boring if people just use kick or feint it, like all jorm players do now , kind of like zerk playstyle but they were missing a bash to use, feint light, feint gb, feint zone or letting it rip, however doesn't seem like he will be nerfed.

[@jeeplethicar2398]

I wasn’t too thrilled with the pk changes, they aren’t bad but it didn’t really change anything about her that was a problem to begin with (minus the stamina on zone) and I wasn’t a fan of the deflect change initially but it actually feels good after using it for a bit and adjusting

[@lobones4373]

Now she’s seemingly way more viable high lvl which definitely matters

[@kinroga]

Idk knowing with obsolete certainty that her dagger cancle is unreactable makes me happy

[@jeeplethicar2398]

@@kinroga ig so but honestly the people who were parrying it the first place are still going to be parrying it because it was already a read based move

[@bullankan2592]

What happend with Lawbringer rework?

[@fkkfreeze]

has been implemented last season

[@maniacalgrunt1822]

I understand why they did it but the deflect change didn't really do much cause she was rarely ever in the position to accidentally deflect she doesn't have the constant dodge cancels to really have that problem, not saying it's a bad change I like it but it wasnt really a problem with like with orochi

[@rauliont]

bruh i thought they did this months ago, or did they just mention that it was coming up?

[@meysirum]

mentioned it and testing grounds, around the same time as the HL testing grounds

[@johnmct9806]

Some heros now need a rocket launcher to carch up with the others

[@SirVelstadt]

As nice as the deflect change is, it also brings back her option select deflect. A problem i thought they were trying to get rid of by making her deflect a heavy

[@gigachad4306]

How does it bring an option select?

[@fkkfreeze]

if you press zone attack during a dodge, it does a dodge attack and riposte stab should it be a deflect. Something that needs to be adressed, for sure.

[@gigachad4306]

@@fkkfreeze that didnt happen with the heavy input?

[@fkkfreeze]

it did. it just needs to change as well. like I mentioned in the video, I covered this entire topic in a seperate vid

[@vapor_snake920]

For Medjay, I get why they placed the undodgeable property on light finisher, but I don’t see it improving axe stance all that much. It’s a mix up that, I’d argue, is actually more defender sided than it was pre-patch because not only is there barely anything threatening from that mix up, but the consideration of throwing the undodgeable light means now Medjay is at risk of getting blown up by light parries.

[@ZuRekka]

I think it was a good idea, it's an unpunishable bash if not dodge attacked, so the damage swings aren't major. If it were the heavies the mix up would be too strong because of the damage swings. Medjay was released to be able to fulfill both roles good enough to not be forgotten about. Yet his Staff was too strong with the HA lights, and his axe mode too weak withoutthe ability for an actual mix up. So they transferred the power to axes by making the lights better. Not absurdly strong, not too weak.

[@vapor_snake920]

@@ZuRekka except that it’s an incredibly defender favored mix up with no way for him to offensively get into his UB pressure.

[@vapor_snake920]

@@ZuRekka I can respect your opinion but I don’t see it as a very good buff for two reasons: 1) it’s now one of the few mix ups that defender favored. The mix up itself consists of two options that the opponent doesn’t have to feel oblige to respect since both options are just 9 and 14 dmg, respectively, with one of them ending the chain with frame minus for Medjay, and on top of that, UD light finisher just gives them cause to light parry. L 2) neither option leads to UB mix up. One either ends the chain prematurely or loops back to bash light. There’s only one thing this rework did for Medjay and that’s actually buffing his ganking ability. But in duels he’s more or less the same.

[@MCKSAINT]

When’s warden getting dat new move?

[@GrassToucher-]

Im hoping he gets it in this Testing Grounds, it would be weird for them to show it off in the Warrior's Den stream and then not implement it

[@Doublejho]

what move is it?

[@buyita24slash7]

helo fries

[@carloscalleros3972]

So no pk bash?? Damn I was looking forward to that

[@ThelcarusWing]

Same. Any improvements on her are nice, but you still need long and intimate eye contact with an opponent to do literally anything in a fight against them, making her almost useless in 4s. If you're fighting a PK, the best move is to just... pretend you're not, and lock onto literally anyone else.

[@why8298]

Wasn’t the bash they gave her shitty and slow though?

[@Iceblade269]

People give ubi shit, but the devs have been with this game for nearly 10 YEARS!!! That’s longer than a lot of competitive fighters, even the best selling ones

[@declancain2988]

Still waiting for warden's rework 😭

[@alphadaslaya]

Freeze how you feeling about highlanders rework? I think it blows personally they took away what made him most unique. (Wavedashing)

[@LockheedC-130HerculesOfficial]

he wants hl to be deleted

[@fkkfreeze]

unless the magic fix happens... ye

[@alphadaslaya]

@@LockheedC-130HerculesOfficial honestly I would too, I put too much time for him to be the way they’re pushing him out

[@Evangylo]

hmm pretty good update patch ngl. I hate medjay alot but so far i don't feel overwhelmed by him.

[@user-tl1of4pv4i]

It's not a rework unless you change how the character is played PKs changes are no where close to a rework.

[@abrakadabra6364]

But why no more opening bash?😢

[@bigdoggameing1236]

In my opinion orochi need the same deflect change. His deflect is on dodge and pins it's not fair in comparison considering all the potential the character has

[@Booty_WarriorGaming]

They will never touch that spamurai

[@bigdoggameing1236]

@@Booty_WarriorGaming unfortunately and I hate it

[@Ben-cw2ey]

So PK is still pointless in Dom, cool

[@Yuhyuh6956]

“Rework”…. How about they rework feats for older characters and the whole perk system already

[@Wespa64]

The testing ground tourney sounds interesting, too bad dragons dogma 2 will be out any moment.

[@bhellzeboss7541]

53 minute more.

[@redfinite27]

deflect input change for cockroach and naruto reject asap please.

[@Kruppuchino]

The fact that the zone can be spammed is amazing. Is it practical? Not really unless you're fighting against people who can't block. Is it fun to make a beyblade out of him? Of by Maät yes.

[@Zzulu2]

I don't see this making PK more popular in dominion. Which is all I really care about. Maybe if you're in a premade team she can be good but with randoms her toolkit is horrible

[@cherrycola4476]

"Reworks"

[@revolverclassic8248]

Please for the love of god stop changing PK's inputs, my muscle memory can't keep up they might as well randomize it at this point lmao

[@00badcompany90]

Medjay unblockable has tiny hitboxes .. and the heavy in axe is super slow wish was faster

[@bigboichris9079]

First

[@madlad7488]

Still hate medjays, very op

[@irontarkus6515]

Do the devs hate the knights or something. First conq and lawbringer. Now this? Those reworks didn't fix the issues the characters had, only make what they were good at better.

[@fkkfreeze]

no trollage pls 🙏

[@bread4713]

Wawbwinga bad bwo

[@roykiefer-tr1dr]

You forgot Jorm and Tiandi. They took alot of damage from them away (especially the slam damages).

[@benjaminmayall2679]

I absolutely hate the Pk changes. She was already really strong in ones now she’s just broken why couldn’t they just make a aramusha style bash or something idk to make her viable in 4s

[@Booty_WarriorGaming]

Are you seriously saying PK of all the dodge recovery, all guard, HA, 50/50 characters in the game and you say PK is broken all of her attacks are mostly blockable she doesn’t have a 3 hit chain or a bash

[@Booty_WarriorGaming]

I’m not mad at you but I want to show you something look at Wardens moveset and look at PK’s notice anything similar?

[@benjaminmayall2679]

@@Booty_WarriorGaming 3 hit chains are proven to be useless most of the time but she has those. She is very strong as a duelist and didn’t need any duelist changes it was her 4s external pressure that was the major issue this has not been resolved now she can just spam even better

[@Sub2Cider]

I still think Pk needs a parry riposte like shinobi that does bleed