For Love & Money Formula 5000 F5000 1970

[@cindyscott54]

That was FUN. I was at that Mid-Ohio Contential Challenge (F5000) event. The film DOES remind me of all the safety changes Les Griebling, & later Jim Trueman, implemented. I remember Jacky Stewart insisting a tree to the outside of T1 be taken down before he'd race the '71 Can-Am.

[@kyle381000]

Mark Donohue was such a thoughtful, intelligent and talented driver. We lost him far too soon.

[@crumblefest]

My favorite Formula. Cheap, available, low-tech engines (sort of), simple cars, a neat way to go racing. What racing should be all about, unlike today...

[@gcarlson]

you forgot to mention risk!

[@thethirdman225]

Do a KZbin search for S5000 which is a modern take on what F5000 was. It’s an Australian idea and all the cars are identical, utilising 5.2 litre Ford Coyote engines and Australian-built 6 speed Holinger paddle shifters transaxle, mated to a 2018 FIA compliant Onroak Ligier chassis. I’ve watched them in the flesh. They’re awesome.

[@andyharman3022]

Probably the best documentary about racing that I've seen. Loved the interviews with Donohue and Follmer. And Grable and Cannon, two drivers I've known about for years, but never heard in an interview. Also, I recognize the tracks that they are driving.

[@rcphelps]

This is wonderful. Thanks for posting. My first "real" in-person race was the Donnybrooke round of the 1970 series. I was hooked and have never looked back. Great memories here!

[@shimshonbendan8730]

My first race was at Donnybrook in 1970 for the Can Am series. What great times!

[@ADRIAN-fb9xj]

That was very good. Great Track, the onboard around the 17 minute mark was very interesting, plenty of elevation changes and tricky corners. Some nice playing with the throttle on the long right hander. Thanks for posting it.

[@andyharman3022]

The footage was split between Lime Rock early in the film, and Mid Ohio later in the film. At the 17 minute mark, that is Mid Ohio. I downgraded his style points when he was playing with the throttle in the Keyhole (the long right-hander). But what do I know? The fastest car I've handled at Mid Ohio is a 400 HP Corvette, not a 450 HP F5000 that weighs about half. It's undoubtedly much more sensitive to throttle. Mid Ohio is a very intense track. There is only about 2 seconds on the pit straight and 3 seconds on the backstretch where a driver can relax and check his gauges.

[@mtl-ss1538]

@@andyharman3022 New Zealand documentary on three Kiwis at the top of their game .!!!. Bruce McLaren with Denny Hulme & Chris Amon...www.nzonscreen.com/title/trio-at-the-top-2001

[@sergioleone3583]

Thanks for posting this! Great stuff.

[@andrewganley9016]

THE best race cars...ever ! 5 liters of Chevy V8 power once heard never forgotten

[@marklangren3142]

Have to remember Penske was doing Can Am, Trans Am, F5000 and endurance racing all at the sane time

[@eaurough]

Thanks for posting this.

[@jeffwagner8690]

F/5000 Owners: PLEASE(!) compete in the 50th Anniversary events in 2018, ESPECIALLY the MOSPORT event, as my Dad and I will be there with MANY other loyal fans too! My Dad saw EVERY Formula A, Formula Continental, Formula 5000, events ever held there and BOTH of us are counting the days down!

[@theohlinsguy4649]

I raced a Chevron B15b in FB which raced with the 5000 series that year

[@brianwestmoreland9852]

Buddy owns the Ron Grable car, races it occasionally in Sovren...runs without the wing!

[@NielsHeusinkveld]

amazing!

[@gcarlson]

8:27 David Hobbs, my favorite F1 announcer of all time. Sometimes he would make vroom vroom noises on air. Thus, my favorite.

[@trob1731]

I love Hobbs's no bs, take no prisoners, focused stare.

[@RICHARDJOYCE-s2c]

my brother was his F5000 SURTEES MECHANIC

[@acpolish]

5,000 Cubic Inches??? YIKES!!! (How ‘bout 5 liter, 5,000 cc) Saw these guys often as 13 year year old kid up at Le Circuit, Mr. Tremblant, Québec. I was a pit brat. My Dad was chief timer In the control tower. Met Dick Smothers, & James Garner, and a guy who would become a good friend & mentor, was doing really well in Formula B at the time, Ian Coristine, (RIP). Really great memories!! Feffen good racing, REAL DRIVERS!!

[@beeemm2578]

Those dubbed Fred Flintstone peel outs are hilarious

[@marklangren3142]

The 44 is Jerry Hansen

[@marklangren3142]

Part of it is Mid Ohio

[@terryjackson9055]

excellent

[@mreckes9967]

These cars are so small, not much bigger than go-karts, no wonder they go so well.

[@Tranmere59]

Pretty much a Formula 1 body with a 5 litre block on the back, so very weird to handle. In UK we had a few races every year that were F1 at front of grid then F5000s to fill up the pack.

[@crumblefest]

They are MUCH larger than go karts...

[@mtl-ss1538]

@@Tranmere59 New Zealand documentary on three Kiwis at the top of their game .!!!. Bruce McLaren with Denny Hulme & Chris Amon...www.nzonscreen.com/title/trio-at-the-top-2001

[@marguskiis7711]

Nice acid jazz soundtrack

[@garageworm17]

This is freaking awesome they should remake these cars but new aged the tech is better now and the body's would look sick in carbon fiber

[@paxwallace8324]

For sure George Folmer as fast as it gets . Oh gee Mark Donahue well he was also an engineer. But he was Porsche factory driver RIP. Is this 69 or 70? Mid Ohio?

[@CRASS2047]

My Grandfather owned and drove the number 25 Lola. If anyone has any info on him, I would forever be in your debt.

[@Sparky5999]

Name? Color, #25 lola? Race Series? home Race Track? Picture?

[@marklangren3142]

The onky ford was the occasional appearance of Dan Gurney

[@TheJagjr4450]

Wish I could buy a Formula 5000 car ready to race with sprares and also campaign it for a year for 100k.

[@TheJagjr4450]

@@comedicsketches touche' but still 800k today to campaign a first class race car is pretty inexpensive.

[@mikekorn6968]

Where is A2Z?

[@jdb47games]

23:45 Written by Karl Ludvigsen no less.

[@metrichotrods1763]

Vid sets the tone right from the first seconds with a long ashed lit cigarette around a methanol fuel tank, like BFD, sissy, this is F5000. I wonder if Ford actually ran the 302 or the 351. Doubt they'd give that up to the SBCs

[@andyharman3022]

They couldn't have run a 351, 305 is the displacement limit. The 302 Boss of the day had enough power to handle the Chevy. Trouble was, there wasn't very many of them.

[@gcarlson]

I have an answer 4:35 "5000 cubic centimeters" aka 5.0 ltr ... so that must be the 302

[@mtl-ss1538]

@@andyharman3022 New Zealand documentary on three Kiwis at the top of their game .!!!. Bruce McLaren with Denny Hulme & Chris Amon...www.nzonscreen.com/title/trio-at-the-top-2001

[@marklangren3142]

Donnybrooke & Road America

[@KrustyKlown]

Love the big tires and basic design.(except for those wings, UGHH!!!)... so much cooler than modern F1 cars with all their absurdly ugly aero downforce stuff.

[@frederickmiles327]

Early F5000 in the United States, Cannon and Grable were much better drivers than they appeared when the raced in the Tasman series in 1970 it was very difficult to run a American style F5000 team in an 8 race , 9 week Tasman series when they would have lacked a lot of the local contacts and would have to pay much more and the American efforts always seemed to fade off competitive pace by they time they reached Australia although I thnk all the evidence is that Cannon and Grable bordered on world class, possibly not quite as good as McRae or Matich, possibly better than Lawrence, Stewart or Johnie Walker both the two later renowned for trying too hard

[@thethirdman225]

I never saw Grable but I watched a John Cannon win at Sandown in a converted March.

[@aussiesupersnake6642]

Even back then nearly all them were powered by Chev garbage,but only takes one mighty FORD BOSS to win

[@crumblefest]

Take off those idiotic tea trays on the back. Wings are for airplanes, and take away some of that "driving skill" so lacking today in cars that your grandmother could be competitive in...

[@hatbpto5180]

Boss 302