For the 1st time ever ...I can't tell the difference with these FAKE Magic Cards

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[@MichaelDavis-zf6nt]

The counterfeiters are sending their samples to Rudy to see if the product is ready for production.

[@marcd7332]

Pro gamer move

[@clayxros576]

Honestly no better way to quality control

[@giantpulsatingcock1651]

Hmmm.....

[@lambchop518]

Wow, that actually never occurred to me lol.

[@Goldschmitt]

And they even get advices..!!

[@EliosMoonElios]

NOW IN 2019 IS SUPER EASY TO SEE THE DIFFERENCE , THE COUNTERFEIT CARDS HAVE MUCH HIGHER QUALITY.

[@jestes7]

lmao

[@emmanuelmorin3806]

i love fake card

[@thesnare100]

you mean wear and tear/being mint? There are still mint copies of P9's

[@EliosMoonElios]

@@thesnare100 I see a lot of expert showing how forfeited cards are practically identical but the fail come from the much highest resolution and better colors from modern printers because the original cards come from old printers.

[@thesnare100]

@@EliosMoonElios if you know the old printers/specs, how it was done (I think an engineer would) you could make a printer that could print that way. They only have to know how to reproduce it perfectly, not know exactly how the printer worked. As long as you can make it look the exact same way, it doesn't matter what the method machine is/was used to do it.

[@youtubasoarus]

Seems like at some point the counterfeiters will exceed wizards in quality and that will be the give away... "they're just too good... which means they're fakes, sorry Timmy."

[@bennycostello2472]

That's sort of how fake gucci works...the fakes look better. Usualy start falling apart much faster though

[@kainestewart5017]

You tube algorithm op. I just watched a video where the foils didn't Pringle and dude was like these are terrible fakes.

[@DetroitTyler]

Trust me if they had a card game to sell i'm sure we'd get revised level cardboard again.

[@macmacox]

yeah, Richard Garfield never meant this to be an investment bored ape like it has become.

[@jonathanmoore7472]

At that point you have them buy wizards and wizards will print the fakes

[@oom-3262]

Maybe, just maybe, they are real cards and they are trolling you.

[@TempestPoet]

Well, germans don't troll. so must be #TheRealDeal xD

[@dathawk4579]

i bet my ass he gets trolled there

[@HS_Merciless]

Whats better than some German Schadenfreude?

[@donsancho6690]

Not really. The skull in the holofoil is a give-off.

[@donsancho6690]

Nevermind, I looked at my cards and turns out each one has a different mana symbol in the holofoil.

[@bastiaan0741]

The original owner got reverse scammed, and got sent the real cards.

[@DeathLacooda]

So f*cking underrated comment 🤣

[@Scorch428]

Today, a girl asked me how I was doing. I replied, "Sorry, I'm only interested in reserved list." She got really confused.

[@Scorch428]

3:40

[@Tsukasa6669]

That's how ya know she ISN"T the ONE ^_^

[@SubjectDelta20]

I asked a girl if she wanted to see my Deck and she slapped me 😢

[@S1L3NTDr460n]

My gut instinct tells me they are real magic cards, and he's just testing you to see if you "find something wrong" with real magic cards if you were told they were fake. Kinda like a "let's see what he does" scenario. That seems far more plausible than the alternative; that someone made counterfeits that damn perfect. lol

[@subzero308]

"Counterfeit" cards r better quality the WoTC dog shit quality... That's how u can tell the difference bad quality is WoTC good quality is the "counterfeits"... But honestly at what point do they even consider to be counterfeits smh 😂

[@pbandme24]

Upon inspecting my own Breya, each pip in the holofoil stamp has appears to reflect the planeswalker symbol from the front and various mana symbols from different angles. Mine has a forest symbol, so it's likely fine that that one has a swamp symbol.

[@Whitehalo117]

I checked a few of mine and they have different mana symbols and the plainswalker logo as well. I can't tell if that's fake or real.

[@StarTrekOnlineLive]

So Rudy finaly couldn’t see the difference. Mass production = ON

[@NitrousDragon]

Exactly. 😂

[@Ottawa3453]

It's obviously a test. He sent you real cards and told you they were fake, in order to see what you would say. Test passed - Everyone's happy - Time to go to the Taco store :P

[@uiluj13]

surprised no one did this to him before.

[@Ottawa3453]

The skull is the black mana symbol. Each foil oval shaped "stamp" has some combination of the 5 mana symbols as well as the planeswalker symbol it.

[@joshuanorris5860]

Yeah but it was a test for wizzards And they failed

[@OrangeOVL]

@Eli Mullen I'm a bit late on the answer, but this is just not true. I have some with a skull on it. And i never bought single cards I only buy boosters.

[@thatmagicguy369]

Eli Mullen my Breya actually has a sun/ white mana symbol on it and it's legit.

[@justin-db7hw]

Finally I can play with my foil chinese black loctus'

[@limpusstudios9202]

Lmfao

[@baguetteboi1065]

*yeet*

[@Scorch428]

Hell Yeah! Im cracking the Ice Age Lotus out the case now!

[@bookofbrah]

You have to see my russian Black Loctopus, when you attack it gives you the 3 Mana, deals 3 Damage, but, because hes a stupid octopus, he also fucks yourself with 3 damage. Good deal if you ask me:)

[@knavenformed9436]

@@bookofbrah Thanks

[@philippbayer866]

German cards. Im pretty sure those are real. Im happy to see, that you admit, that you can't spot the difference with those cards rather then to pretend to know it. I like that about you Rudy.

[@L0j1k]

This is why I prefer to buy from Rudy. His primary currency is trust. His entire empire is built upon his trustworthiness. He *has to* only say what he believes is the truth, or everything else falls apart. If nobody trusts him, no matter how popular his videos or how fat his Patreon, his raison d'etre is done af, and everything he has worked for is ruined. Why could anybody sell him a collection, or buy *any* of his sealed product or reserved list cards if they couldn't *trust* Rudy? So for this reason alone, you can rest assured that Rudy believes what he says to be the truth. And with his network and connections, he is exposed to *lots* more inside information than we will ever get. So he is an excellent "source of truth" for the scene-behind-the-scenes in the MTG community. And his prices are good. They're not totally inflated, which is what you would expect for someone with so much trust in the foundation of their business. Good guy Rudy.

[@brocksamson9737]

@@L0j1k God damn testimony huh ? Geez

[@bigcauc7530]

@@brocksamson9737 that's what happens, when someone is genuine and a world overrun by lying pieces of sh*t, man. They inspire admiration in other people and that makes them want to speak out because it's so hard to find any level of purity.

[@snowmorgan4115]

@@brocksamson9737 can't blame a the guy for praising Rudy with shops like EB Games ect who love to rip off the uninformed or the young or the old just to make a quick buck.

[@TREK5900cheats]

god i hope these are fake, so i can finally afford to get into this game

[@jenzo42]

The thing is, if they're this good at faking the cards, they'll pricematch them and sell them as the real thing.

[@loganwhatnot3698]

Just buy proxies off wish. As long as youre playing with friends and not selling the cards as real its whatever

[@joshuanorris5860]

Try pauper Or playing vs ppl who dont use over powered decks. Then its easy to afford

[@chiseler151]

he's trying to get you to destroy your cards so his are worth more

[@SlyMaelstrom]

@@chiseler151 That's what I do... I bought 10 alpha black lotus cards for about $12K each a few years ago and burned 9 of them. Now the one I have is worth more than when I bought it.

[@sandwichboy1268]

Not gonna lie, I WANT somebody to make perfect quality fakes of those old cards, and flood the market with them, so that most of us can afford and play with those cards.

[@louisleo7449]

I understand. Kids don't care too much as long it's playable. But. it's more serious for the collectors that's all. Just have fun.

[@lucjanszulik7354]

Just play commander with proxies. Edh and cedh community is very ok with playing proxies. Sure, most tournaments will still be out of your reach, but other then that...

[@BridgeTROLL777]

@@lucjanszulik7354 yeah playing with proxies in casual games is okay.

[@Hamieee]

Just proxy.

[@Saucebrunette]

I dont even play MTG and I cant stop wathcing these vids. Wtf

[@Siafk]

just start playing! ^^ I started playing before watching these videos and I love getting more and more information out of this channel

[@dannykstick]

Don't play. it's an addiction thats hard to get over with

[@82camino96]

Wallyee Hurb you have a point. I played in the 90s and early 2000’s. It’s been 15 years now and finding these videos has me extremely pulled in. Just like it did back in the day when I’d spend as much money as I possibly could on it. It’s dangerous, but it is a very good card game. The earlier sets especially.

[@The_Crow_Flies]

@@dannykstick I started back in 95' and i still buy paper cards even though no one around me plays anymore lol. I only can get games in online formats.

[@michellaurin5838]

Sick Troll Rudy!!!! He's telling wizards to smarten up with the quality of cards, or it will make it easier to fake them. Only way you can get through to wizards is by letting them know the bottom line might become effected. Well played.

[@ericofire]

if it smells like shit, it's probably shit. if it smells like a floppy taco, it's probably a floppy taco. I liked your point about it being easier to slip in counterfits of newer cards, but I think you missed a much bigger point about it. Anybody looking for reserved list / older cards has likely been through the ringer a few times. they're more likely to have done research and know what they're looking for. If i'm buying ixalan cards for standard, it's likely a 70% chance i've been in the game 2 years or less and dont know shit about what a counterfit will look like. THAT's where it gets really dangerous

[@Kool212]

I think this applies to everyone not just newer players. I can't think of a single person who would check for fake standard legal cards. It's unheard of to fake them.

[@williamsabato361]

Although, if it is an exact identical copy, what do we do? I there is no way to tell.....there isn't anything wizards can do.

[@ericofire]

kenneh I agree with you to a point. experienced players dont check standard cards, you're right. but new players wouldn't even know what to check. I've been in the game long enough, I get suspicious just by touching the flippin things XD

[@mjholdingphilip4136]

The Hangarback Walker is from the Battle for Zendikar Event Deck. All cards printed for supplemental products use a different printing process and seem strange compared to ones from boosters.

[@Stargazer1312]

Excellent timing with the midroll. It pisses me off when people have the ad cut them off mid sentence, but you timed it to feel natural and add suspense. Wish more KZbinrs could figure that out

[@3114Cancerbero]

That's a mate plastic over offset printing over a 240 gr Stock. The blurness and saturation of the cards is due to an over hatching caused by the use of high resolution images of existing cards that shows clean sharp print spots which can only be achieved when you hold the original digital file.

[@Beghty27]

Way I see it. If the counterfeiters are making cards that are exactly the same as real cards, then there is no reason to not just treat them as real.

[@Guts3570]

the reason not to treat them as real is that they can be printed infinitely, which would make a valuable card worthless.

[@column3005]

@@Guts3570 if it’s possible for counterfeiters to recreate it 1/1 copies then where is this “value” you speak of? Just Wotc artificially deciding what cards get what runs?

[@lukassky8997]

@@column3005 yes exactly thats how they get money

[@marcellachine5718]

@@Guts3570 we are talking about cardboard, right?

[@tylerchambers6246]

@@marcellachine5718 Piece of paper with a dead president on it ie. "money" or a piece of paper with magic characters on it, what's the difference. They both have value by fiat, just because some external agency or power said so and we the people agreed to respect that value. But if someone creates their own insert-paper-product and passes it off as legitimately the work of that other agency or power, then they've broken the whole basis of the public trust in it and this value no longer makes sense. The only money that has 'real value' intrinsically is gold and precious metals dude. Not even diamonds do really because their value is manipulated.

[@alphabetaomegainvestments3444]

Sniff it.

[@alexnas9634]

i actually thought the same thing

[@Grudgecity]

So those newer ones are counterfeit it’s a German company that is now making rates with accurate stamps.

[@Mugicha808]

Never played magic but I love this channel.

[@kdfinvesting6122]

Same here man. Just wish he did more on Pokémon. Help me know what sets to invest in.

[@rustyshackleford11]

me too, haven't played magic in like 15 years

[@logancaudill2457]

invest smart he literally made a video about how investing in Pokémon is a shit idea and that it was a mistake he doesn’t plan on making again

[@liricistadel90]

Don't try It or never stop believe me

[@jimmyp9105]

Same here

[@Y2KNW]

That All Hallow's might be a fake, but I love the colour. That was a beautiful fake.

[@piperhots3093]

After I really started getting into playing card games I checked my old pokemon cards for fakes, one of them is a Gothitelle and the entire card is printed on the plastic stuff. I peeled it off and the card was just white

[@powmanr44]

The hologram has all the mana symbols in it

[@Thebizel]

Maybe only German ones because here in Belgium my Amonkhet-> Ixalan rares and even the older ones I bought online only have the MTG Logo in them. Never saw a mana symbol Would like to know more about that

[@MightyXelf]

I got my rares out to check them and yup, they have the 5 mana symbols in the foil logo (english cards)

[@neonknight7348]

Loizo the german cards are all printed in belgium so they should be equal

[@Jczie03]

Yep, mine have the mana symbols on them as well

[@FFXIK]

It depends on how you look at them. The hologram switches between the mana symbols and the planeswalker emblem

[@KnightessTTV]

I just took a look at some of my own cards, and they have a color logo in the foil stamp. I think it depends on the color of the card? I'm not sure. My Mission Briefing from Guilds shows a water picture like the logo for an Island, but my Cavern of Souls and Primal Amulet showed a skull.

[@RafaelSimonelli]

Rudy, the holographic seal in originals may have mana symbols. So, it's possible to find a Skull (black mana), as well as other mana symbols, depending on the cutting that was made in the seal.

[@MikFrey]

If they were fake cards, they would be crazy expensive to make. The holo stamp is way too perfect for fake cards.

[@Bat242]

The letter is from Germany, telling from the stamps

[@xcver]

of course if they say Deutschland on them :)

[@jaybyrdcybertruck1082]

if you pause when he flips the envelope it HAS the return address on the top or the back.... I spotted the words Berlin Germany and a number which I wont repeat in case it is the return address. This now makes one wonder, if it DOES have a return address seen at 4:22 then why say it has none muwahahahah!!!!

[@philippnovikov1774]

and it's from David Molnos who just got doxxed for no reason, poor guy.

[@4fr0d1s14cuM]

its the german breya too and luftpost means shipment by flight.

[@Florian88888888]

you doxxed even more, because you typed the name in the comments *facepalm*

[@novipak]

well placed ad at 4:16 rudy. i like your style

[@JasonBhoy7]

the plastic on the first card, its a laminate on top of the card to protect the ink from scuffing and either make it glossy or matt finish, the printing technique they use is probably to shiny which is why they used a matt laminate

[@slightly_handy2109]

I really wanna know if those are the real deal. The one thing about these holo foils is that the skull is placed perfectly in the middle. i just checked about 20 different rares and I didn't see a single one with a skull or any other symbol directly in the middle. Also, almost every card I looked at had 2 or 3 different mana symbols on it.

[@Lolan1111]

Yes Real cards do have Mana symbols in the holo foil stamps. I havent found any recognizable pattern that dictates what symbols are on what cards. But i have many real cards that have the blue water drop and the plains sun and even some swamp skulls. I even have one with both plains and island symbols in the holo stamp.

[@valeriosampo7459]

The fact that you have a card with both symbols means that holo symbols are random on cards, on random positions in the holo, but that skull was exactly in the same position in every single card. There can be 2 options here: the first is that fate joked everybody and made 3 identic holo; the second is that they are fakes

[@thenerdlored]

I checked the holo foil stamp on some of my legendaries and it differs from card to card, as some have the MTG logos and Mana symbols, the skull was for black Mana

[@skoda10]

Do you have any more tips for the counterfitters on what to think about and what cards to make to trick people with?

[@ogerpinata1703]

If the fake is as good as the original, it's no longer a fake.🤷

[@NitrousDragon]

My thoughts too, but it's still not from Wizards though, so still fake.

[@knightsolaire3463]

@@NitrousDragon Fake is a matter of perception.

[@NitrousDragon]

@@knightsolaire3463 I'll be honest... I came here thinking this was a comment on a political video... Lol 😂 it's nice to see this instead. Anyway, I was going to disagree, but your technically right, by fake I'm technically saying nonofficial, or not printed by wizards. People have the freedom to play how ever they choose, that's the brilliance of freedom (and magic), I would just ask that those who do, respect the official (only) players wishes. (to only play/trade/etc, in wizard prints only.) I've actually given thought of having a entire set (or more) that was "fake", either just for fun, or if I were introducing someone to magic.

[@knightsolaire3463]

@@NitrousDragon I've always wanted to have a group create their own "fake" legendary creatures, and build EDH decks around them, then play just to see what happens

[@knavenformed9436]

@@knightsolaire3463 Except it is not, fake is something trying to pass as from another source. The cards are from WOTC, anything trying to pass as a product of theirs made elsewhere is a fake no matter the quality better or worse.

[@shammerHammer]

This is so deep in postmodernist theory. If it is an EXACT copy, how is it any different than the original? What makes it better? Just the knowledge that it is? The card plays exactly the same. Still, I wouldn't want it.

[@Napalmstrike15989]

it just means that the market of investing in cards is bunk cause anyone can flood and devalue the cards at any time so rudy cares but for most itd actually just mean cheaper cards maybe less money in wizards of the coasts pockets

[@unsltr]

If the cards are cheap enough, it means the death of magic. Unless you think the Chinese knockoff makers are going to pick up where Wizards leaves off when they stop designing new sets because their packs are worthless.

[@FinalManaTrigger]

No one who is buying a black lotus in 2017 is putting money in Wizard's pocket, real card or fake. Those were limited run cards from 1993. The only people that are losing money are investors.

[@unsltr]

No one is worried about Black Lotuses. The guy's paying 10k+ will easily spot them through detailed analysis, ageing, and print quality. Anybody paying full price for old cards will always know what to look for, and anybody thinking that 10/10 $1000 lotus is real deserves to get scammed. But what happens when every card in standard can be had for 25 cents? Rudy literally said it. Focus on every card in standard worth more than 5 bucks, print bazillions that we cant tell the difference between because of card quality control and people just not understanding how to look for them, and see how long Wizards sticks around for. Spoiler: Not Fucking Long.

[@dylanmays5311]

Not sure how true it is, but I've heard a lot of counterfeiters keep their products in the range of a few hundred dollars give or take. Go too high and it becomes hard to find buyers, go too low and you're not making as much money as you could be.

[@RuroniKaito]

So when Rudy checked the foil Planeswalker mark on the rare card, and I saw the Black Mana Skull in it, I thought for sure it was fake, cause I only recognized the Planeswalker logo in my foils. Then I busted out my Amonkhet Pre-release box that still had my cards in it, and checked the rares, and sure enough, with tilting under a flashlight I could see the mana symbols of the various colors as well as the Planeswalker logo, some more distinct than others. So I think someone was taking Rudy for a walk to see if they could get him to declare them fakes for sure.

[@vxicepickxv]

Most of my mana symbols in my rarea aren't dead center. They also have a variety of symbols, and they don't always correspond to the color or colors of the cards. I just checked a commander deck and saw each mana symbol, and only one was dead center. It was a green symbol in the center of a monowhite card.

[@Ksilver21]

Hi Rudy, I sent you an email not too long ago about identifying fake cards using laboratory grade imaging techniques. If anyone has any very good fakes they would want to send me I can look for specific issues with the printing, paper, and ink. I would need a copy of a real card (I would buy the card myself), so I would not test vintage cards. Thanks for reading, Kevin S

[@panthar1]

I like this idea, hope Rudy follows up with you. My only concern would be printing variances, perhaps having a few legit cards sourced from different spots would alleviate that possibility?

[@Ksilver21]

panthar1 Yeah I was thinking about that. Probably 3 or 4 real copies as control would work. I sent him an email a week ago but I'm sure he gets flooded constantly.

[@L0j1k]

Hey I am interested in this, actually. Could you send me an email? @.com

[@Ksilver21]

I guess he would want to wait and see if anyone claims those cards or reveals if they are real before doing anything with them, but I am also anxiously wondering if they are real or not. Hopefully he gets back to me.

[@Ksilver21]

Can you private message me on KZbin?

[@natefitzgerald3533]

Was there ever an update on this? I was thinking someone was trying to test ya so they could try to call you out.

[@ithinkifeelthat9984]

I was hoping there was a follow-up too

[@bonnersbrain]

Just looked at my copy of Breya...and there's a skull and the magic symbol in the holo. not dead center like that one, but it's there.

[@RedMageGaming]

The only MtG card I have available to me at the moment with that little holofoil on it has a blue water drop in it. Card is Dark Imitations. no idea if other holofoil bits are the same or if that symbole changes based on set?

[@ShadowstormProducts]

Checked for the skull on my foils, tis a thing on foils.

[@dailygaming6672]

You ever find out if those were real?

[@ItIsNot1984]

Send one in to get graded and see what happens. Also look at it with loop and a bright ass led light like a phone flash. See if you can notice any signs of artwork underneath what is there as they likely used a real card to make it

[@shadowolf3998]

Who is that from? 5:10 ? I plan to print some personal custom cards and I wonder where to find someone to print it for me for a good price.

[@jensvide777]

8:44 Translation: "d-don't counterfeit old RL cards please, t-trust me it's a waste of time"

[@tyhatfield7156]

blue cheese cult I really feel too that he doesn’t know that for sure he just has more people doing it because that messes with some very expensive card and that’s what is trying to accomplish

[@justtheinstinct4893]

Hmm I got a different translation: When Breya comes into play, inflict two 1/1 blue Thopter artifact creature tokens with flying ability. Sacrifice two artifacts: Determine one: Breya deals 3 damage to target player. From This: Wenn Breya ins Spiel kommt, erzuege zwei 1/1 blaue Thopter-Artefakt kreaturenspielstein mit Flugfahigkeit. opfere zwei Artefakte: Bestimme eins: Breya fugt einem Spieler deiner Wahl 3 Schadens.

[@somaliantourbus6543]

@@justtheinstinct4893 This madlad actually translated the card instead of just nabbing the text off of the English Gatherer

[@KilroyKilled]

Can you post the link so we can buy some?

[@DiscomasterZero]

My guess is they were bulk rares that were bleached, covering the emblem, then printed over again with a high quality printer. I’m pretty sure I’ve seen a video of proxies with custom art were made this way.

[@jweezy15able]

I did a quick check in my own. I'm not certified in any regard, but your spot on from what I can tell. The skull in the stamp isn't in all of them, but they do have it.

[@alvarandhurriks2364]

Those have to be real. Somebody is trying to screw with you for sure.

[@joesorace]

I looked at some rares (modern horizon and Throne), and saw that a “plains” symbol was on modern horizons stamp and a “mountain” symbol was on throne cards. I’m guessing that each set has a certain code for the stamps. The sections on the stamp are different on each set as well as where the “mana symbol” is placed within.

[@newcomixx]

its a pattern. It has diagonal Magic crown symbols, then a diagonal column of Mana symbols in a certain order, then its crowns again. Its normally from left to right staggering down, but ive seen its on one card go from right to left. Pretty sure those arent fake, since they came out of solid boosters. Maybe the direction is random or maybe its not random at all :) I dont think it purposefully has a certain symbol on a certain card, feels like its just a piece of a pattern.

[@daviddiebold7357]

Color gradient on the foil is a misprint, or fake. Not sure which red trend to the right side not left on the ones I have.. could be the lighting though

[@MrTONDINI]

There is a skull in most of them, I looked at my ur-dragon commander card and it had a plains symbol in it. I'm also looking at a promo foil Utter End and the symbols in it are the mountain and swamp symbol with the planeswalker symbol. Clearly there is no continuity between the symbols in the flash

[@houseofshadow6380]

I just checked three junk rares from Fate Reforged, BFZ and OGW, and they all have a mana symbol in the holo foil in the bottom, and I pulled them from packs, so thats a thing.

[@slightly_handy2109]

The one thing about these holo foils is that the skull is placed perfectly in the mail. i just checked about 20 different rares and I didn't see a single one with a skull or any other symbol directly in the middle. Also, almost every card I looked at had 2 or 3 different mana symbols on it.

[@brettmcknight4677]

"Sorry honey, I'm ONLY interested in reserve list." I lost my shit.

[@relicdad88]

Im saying this from now on thx rudy lol gonna be great

[@Sheriff_K]

I need to invest in a Jeweller's Loupe.. Speaking of which, does Rudy have any vids showing you what to look for?

[@chasehatchett4756]

So the holo-foil seems to have the planeswalker symbol as well a mana symbol. I've seen all of the symbols on different cards and can't quite tell if there is an order to symbols but it seems random.

[@josephzundel2655]

The holo-foils have every mana symbol hidden in them. You just have to look closely.

[@dickjohnson8983]

the breya is probably fakel because no curling rofl

[@lachlanjones962]

The skull is the mana symbol inside the holo-stamp. There are also ones for the other mana types.

[@joshuaarnold5345]

Just getting into MTG "Hardcore" and I've watched as many videos of yours as I can for the past 2 weeks, and I have my own question that I notice off hand, is the stamping? I noticed you said that W.O.T.C's QC is slack, but if you look at the foil stamps at the bottom of each card they are significantly placed different? I don't know if that is normal or not? for example the Hangerback's stamp is to the upper right, and the other card at 6:04 is to the upper left? and the first card prior to these two are almost perfectly spaced and set dead center? Maybe this is part of the QC? Not sure as I haven't even began to buy my own deck yet or start collecting as I want to know all that I can before buying from "Local people"

[@joshuaarnold5345]

Also with the "Skull" stamping, I noticed JUST prior that, the other two symbols, looked like what is another "Pack...Logo or Symbol" Which didn't match the "Set Symbol" on the card? Maybe I'm being to overly cautious... the time frame is 6:46. I also as I said before, don't even own a REAL card yet.. lol

[@mobmango4]

the holofoil stamp should not always be the same. all of those stamps are exactly the same. on my cards every stamp has a slightly different pattern as if they were cut from different sections of a sheet. those stamps all look like exact copies of another

[@82camino96]

That sounds like a good point. It would make perfect sense. Although, I don’t own any cards past around ice age to check but I would imagine that each one would be a different section of the pattern. If it’s actually a foil.

[@bigfish0050]

What I found weird was that they all had the black mana symbol in the same spot. My cards all seem to have a random symbol in a random spot.

[@adamreece5498]

I noticed that to my cards always have different symbolls in different spot. Unless they just sent him real ones with all the same mana symbols in the same spot.

[@jorgesuarez3485]

Agree they have the symbols scartted and for them all to have it centered in the each same spot ohhhhh smells of gut feeling of absolute faked or exact copies, they actually did it real well this is questionable.

[@clayxros576]

@@jorgesuarez3485 Still at that point they might as well start printing cards legit. Having the tech to accomplish that is astounding.

[@jeffroberts5634]

The holo stamp is switched between the Mana symbols and a smaller crown symbol inside the large one on a large sheet and they get stamped out for cards

[@VitalisProductions]

I know its late as f but the black mana skull in holo is what gives them away. Its always spot on central in those cards. While in real thing holos looks as cut at random from a sheet - sometimes there is red mana in center, sometimes white, sometimes nothing is in center.

[@Zedonius666]

Someone's playing a joke on Rudy.

[@4ll3sb4n4n3]

Germans like to troll, I can tell you that. Also: why would you fake German cards?

[@philippnovikov1774]

Rudy himself

[@TheOlsonOutfit]

or trying to spread fear

[@4ll3sb4n4n3]

Fear leads to anger, anger leads to hate, hate... to suffering!

[@Sami8s]

German superiority

[@AndreJHoward]

When fakes are indistinguishable, they are no longer fake. I don't like it but once the market floods .... :(

[@subzero308]

I hope the market floods completely with them... This game needs to go back to being a game and not a retirement plan.

[@demithefiend]

The holo stamp has the planeswalker symbol and mana symbols in it, so I think that the black mana skull should be in there. However, they shouldn't all look identical.

[@RoloFilms]

The return adress is on the back of the enveloppe. :) (As is custom in some countries like Germany and the Netherlands)

[@zbarnettnba]

Anyone else watch these videos and just read the comment section for the fantastic comments found throughout?

[@redrobin0071]

"I've met almost every single youtuber, big and small"

[@jessicawhalley4346]

I just looked though a heap of magic cards that i have gotten in boosters from magic stores and none have the skull in the bottom stamp foil..

[@the3031]

If you can damage the card , try using acetone on the foil stamp, if it is real then the stamp should dissolve , if it is a stamped on top as another paper then it's fake . The stamp is the main key wich makes the new border hard to fake.

[@Hazedream]

The best is the end where Rudy tells the criminals the best smartest path to take to succeed.....

[@gilgamesh852]

its just the way rudy doesnt lose a ton of money. Newer cards arent easier to fake than old cards.

[@terryprentice9657]

@@gilgamesh852 It's not that newer cards are easier to fake. They are not going to get the same scrutiny that a dual land or the like would. New cards are MUCH less likely to be graded also. That's what Rudy was sayin'.

[@Manysdugjohn]

@@gilgamesh852 Newer cards ARE easier to fake because you just CANT find 90's cardboard to print. The quality is different.

[@implode3]

I wanted you to rip the real cards you were sent, that would teach someone to claim they are fakes...still remember my tempest prerelease and got cards that would split in half. Best view of blue layer ever.

[@Spayroe]

Just inspected a few rares I have laying around here (ones I know I opened in packs and the Inkmoth Nexus promo from nats last weekend), mana symbols are in the holos. Never noticed it before, but if I got a fake nexus at a wotc event, I'm gonna be pretty jacked, lol

[@robertromero5930]

those holographic stamps on the bottom are stickers to my knowledge, i had some fall off cards i pulled from ktk.

[@roxxerface]

I want to buy all fakes at 1/8th the price! FINALLY the couterfeits are as good as the real cards!

[@giuliogima]

Those are real for me... noone can duplicate the hologram.and even if they can, it's better to clone the euro's holo instead of some cheap unexpensive Magic cards

[@matteopacciani9402]

If you copy euros your jail time last 0 and you are asked to work for the bank of Europe as security detector. If you counterfactual mtg cards you can make the printer go brrrrr

[@Da40kOrks]

Man I remember when fake cards were limited to collector's edition moxes glued to lands.

[@larsickenroth7169]

Had a coupple of foils from the new set, are they all as flimsy? A foil 'Revel in Riches' felt fake to me, although straight out of the booster-pack.

[@Pfromm007]

So who sells these? I mean.. Purely from a research perspective.

[@joshuaarnold5345]

Wow.... Just realized I'm so late... video 2017...its 2019... What can I say, I get lost into your videos LMAO.

[@joshuakidorf6296]

Same lol

[@JDMillest23]

Its 2020, also got lost in his video. The last time I touched, bought, and played magic was 20+ years ago.

[@BreinGames]

I've seen a process before on foils where you apply a chemical and remove the ink. And the. Print new image on the card. Granted this was around 2-3 years ago. And it wasn't perfect. But the process coulda been improved significantly by now.

[@trolojolo6178]

Tell us more

[@jaybyrdcybertruck1082]

Shine a bright light through the card in the dark it should be uniform on regular magic cards, it might be blocky and patchy with the counterfeits. also a lot of counter fitters are repurposing common cards and removing the ink on the front the card stock is real. the onlyt way to tell if its fake is light through the card and smell.

[@ViperXYZ98]

I see a lot of people posting you cant copy the hologram. But why not just take cheap real magic cards, somehow take them off and place them onto the fakes? Then you dont even have to bother trying to replicate it

[@Vincent_Beers]

you don't even have to take off the foil. there's a couple of ways to wipe the ink off the front of the card which produces a real card stock, a real hologram and simply a blank face to print over the hardest part then is lining up to print over the blank without damaging the hologram

[@paulmayton4816]

pro, and a l of work

[@TemporallyAnarchaic]

The only thing suspicious to me about these is that the foil stamp is virtually identical on the two cards we saw up close, down to the Black Mana symbol. The actual foil has alternating mana symbols, such that I used to try to trade copies of rares/promos shortly after it was added to get foil stamps matching the color of the card. But having looked at a LOT of the foil up close because of that brief OCD, I'm suspicious of two of them having such a similar cut. I would have liked to see the Hangarback Walker up close as well to see if it also bears an identical foil stamp. From what I could tell it looked like the Hangarback had a different cut on the stamp, and the two we did see is probably just a coincidence. This is, of course, assuming that someone actually was able to fake the foil in the first place, even if it was JUST the Black Mana symbol and surrounding areas that they duplicated.

[@Vincent_Beers]

or they took a real magic card and wiped the face, which leaves you with a real card stock, a real hologram, and a blank ready for printing

[@TemporallyAnarchaic]

This is a sound plan. You should try it and send the results to Rudy. I'll eagerly await your letter showing up on the channel. But hey, if you actually believe this is a viable method for making good fakes I have some oceanfront property in Nebraska I'm looking to unload.

[@Tupiaz]

When it comes down to it. The problem only exist because MotG has a business model where it has artificial created are rarity. There is now difference in creating the card (expect for foils). Wizard could if the wanted to print the exact same number of cards in each set so all where rare or common. Making a change in such a printing strategy would of cause hurt seconddary sellers but also WotC sales. It would hurt sales from the WotC however there are living card games out there doing quite well. The supply is falsely created and is created so people will buy ton of boosters either to open and sell as singles or to get lucky and get a Jace or another under printed card. It is a problem WotC have brought on themselves.

[@JotaFOC]

I bought an original Hour of Destruction booster pack about a week ago, because I didn't find a Rivals of Ixalan one, and the holo stamp of the rare one wasn't even an oval, there was some missing parts of it. I'm not even going to buy another one from that card set again :(

[@jaybyrdcybertruck1082]

I may have just solved the riddle in this video... after carefully examining the address on the envelope and comparing it to existing written words in many of Creepy Rudys videos, I have determined that the letters, R, U, S, Y, E were written by Rudy, the U has no down turn, the S has a sharp upper curve like a sideways V, the lower case "e" has an elongated lower section and slight upper angling. The lower case 'd' is not connected at its base, these all match to other examples of writing found in Twitter pictures and previous videos... My work here is done I expect a black lotus psa 9 to be sent for my sleuthing skills. Long live the floppy taco!!!

[@jaybyrdcybertruck1082]

Check out the Amonkhet Invocations box in every video and just line up the letters in the paused version of this video ;) I hope I win a prize for this, Rudy is a mad Genius and I love his videos, they are like a puzzle to be figured out!

[@philippnovikov1774]

Kudos to you man! You are spot on! Also, why would there be some weird black sharpie marks on the bottom of the envelope? That's not a really nice joke Rudy is trying pull on us!

[@jaybyrdcybertruck1082]

i think its fantastic, and there is a chance I am wrong, but... his puzzles are worth trying to solve.

[@4ll3sb4n4n3]

But how do you explain the matching postage and stamp from Germany? All that trouble to fool us? He might as well just ask someone from Germany to send him real cards.

[@jaybyrdcybertruck1082]

Maybe my account is actually a second Creepy Rudy account going to the trouble of stirring the pot...... talk amongst yourselves.

[@TimJacobs]

Annnnnnnd I’m done buying cards from eBay

[@pork3d]

From what I can tell with my rares, the holo stamp on all of them have a mana symbol of some type in them on at least one of the symbols. I dont think those are fake cards and if they are they are extremely well done.

[@yomybutthurtzzz8051]

Could the cards with the real holo on them could they possibly be a shitty common they wash the ink from n reprint I've herd that's a thing with some counterfeits to get the paper right

[@Skell-gi8qy]

Those have got to be real cards. I find it highly unlikely that the progression of fake cards would go from patently obvious (even concerning the higher end ones) to completely indistinguishable. If someone had the talent/skills/equipment to flawlessly recreate the look, feel, rosette, etc. why would you counterfeit new cards (which include the hologram, another major hurdle) rather than old power nine or reserved list? Hell one Beta Mox, even if you artificially aged it to a light played condition, would net more profit than hundreds of newer counterfeits.

[@basti4tw]

Rudy, it's Deutsche Post, German Mail, so it's from Germany.

[@shammerHammer]

This and "Breya, Ätheriumformerin"

[@bartelR]

Vor allem ist "Ätherumformerin" ein ganz normales deutsches Wort :D

[@Robert-vk7je]

Oder "Samenschaukelhexe". ;)

[@axelevan4854]

Genau

[@oriondx72]

Never knew about Progenitus the protection from everything is badass!