'How About Pres. Obama's Drone Strikes?': Kavanaugh Brings Up Past Presidents With Trump's Lawyer

Justice Brett Kavanaugh questions former President Trump's lawyer D. John Sauer in oral arguments for Trump v. United States.
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[@GDClark-yl9tk]

If Trump does not have IMMUNITY, neither do Clinton, Bush, Obama, or Biden

[@KaiserBlade]

Yes they do.

[@kirstieangellotti9900]

Trump committed crimes before and after being president and while being president for his personal gain. Wake up. TRUMP is only for Trump not the US citizens

[@DaNAJAYPOLITICALTALKS]

Facts

[@jamesbizs]

@@KaiserBladeno. They don’t.

[@btgkg9639]

@@KaiserBladeRight now but depending on the outcome of this hearing they might not anymore.

[@arcangel7292]

The system only works when the D.O.J is not bias towards a party or president

[@LRRPFco52]

DOJ isn't anywhere in the Constitution though. It has no mention in any of the articles. No powers, no structure, nothing. Yet here we are with 115,000 employees and 40 police forces, including secret police.

[@IneptSystem]

Oh but this corrupt one sided supreme court is ok right?

[@rod.Anderson]

Doj been biased since Obama, he wanted his own federal police force

[@halfdome4158]

When you play ball with the glblsts. Both Bush, Reagan and Clinton did. B and C still do.

[@rod.Anderson]

The federal police force that o wanted

[@JLW75642]

Time to remove all of those people in politics who have too much power and bring it back to the people!

[@JEEDUHCHRI]

LOL. Not gonna happen.

[@dsa2591]

It IS in the hands of the people. A person must be indicted by a jury of his peers in the grand jury, then is tried by a jury of his peers, which his lawyers have just as much right to choose as the prosecution does. What about that isn't being done by the people? Are you saying that people should only have juries that are of their political party or their supporters? How would that be fair to the entire population of the country?

[@MrDoom885]

America needs an emperor

[@user-le8nu2rt6w]

And what would the people do? Act a fool (like trump)

[@untrueman]

SOMEONE has to have the power, bozo

[@rosemaryabbott1020]

There is NO accountability in TODAY'S Justice System!

[@rationallyjustified]

Because of political hacks on scotus like kavanaugh. A traitor installed by a traitor to help traitors

[@dasan9178]

There is no justice system. We have a system of laws which are ignored by Dems whenever they get in the way of their goals.

[@fukusamon4277]

Trump 2024

[@katecalihan3476]

Clearly, the D.O.J. holds to a double standard.

[@davidwelsh8026]

That is correct.

[@user-th7xf2pl2w]

Why more than double.

[@davidblankenship2720]

Kavanagh is a lying hypocrite . Just a political hack

[@dylancress1016]

FJB and his regime.

[@nandy1256]

Thanks for the questionable actions of Trump the DOJ got exposed. May succeeding presidents follow his footsteps and finally get rid of the DOJ.

[@davidortiz173]

People are tired and pissed off about the DOUBLE STANDARDS in this country!

[@fernpemb9576]

Amen !!! only Trump can take this mess no one else would be standing

[@benjohnson1648]

But ain’t nobody gonna do nothin.

[@cmanmaxwell]

I'm sick of a tyrannical leader trying to hijack americas progress. So you're wrong on at least 1 account.

[@ljss6805]

​@@fernpemb9576 He's a criminal. By rights, he should have already served 20 years in prison.

[@davidwebster9788]

Who, exactly?

[@archstanton6441]

In other words, if you're a Democrat, no charges. If you're a Republican, off to court with you.

[@TylerDurden-yk4dh]

Then explain why Bush is still walking around free? Hell, explain why half of todays Republican congress aren't locked up... weirdo

[@archstanton6441]

@@TylerDurden-yk4dh Are you trying to make the case that Democrats are more "ethical" than Republicans?

[@dinkyb2000]

Ok let's see Sen. Menendez is indicted

[@archstanton6441]

@@dinkyb2000 Hillary isn't. Obama isn't. Biden isn't. Only Trump.

[@vegasprogambler5336]

@@TylerDurden-yk4dh bro, you side encouraged crazy people to attack a baseball game and SHOOT MEMBERS OF CONGRESS.

[@drilldrulus1235]

The department of justice is not more then a joke at this point

[@jasonkeuma1986]

The Attorney General is a joke

[@AMelton-lh3tg]

They are a joke until they come after you. I feel like I am living in a soviet country under a tyrant . Same thing they wanted me to go to war for to keep this from happening. Strange.

[@johnharris6655]

Can Obama be arrested when he blamed Benghazi on that film maker they put in jail when he had nothing to do with it.

[@jrstf]

It was justified, Obama would have lost the election two months later had he not done so.

[@jerrycooper2306]

No because listening to the information your advisors give you isn’t a crime. Saying “we believe the cause of the demonstrations was…” isn’t illegal. Now, if he had say… I don’t know… used fake electors to overthrow an election. That would be illegal. You see how that works?

[@AliceR27]

Trump tried to overturn an American election not kill ISIS. Do you not understand the difference? Trump has been a white collar criminal his entire life and has been found guilty of fraud and money laundering numerous times way before he ran for president.

[@William-Bill-Munny]

Obama killed an American with a drone, no trial, no innocent until proven guilty - just the authority to kill an American where the legacy media ran cover and still does for the mob rules democracy. Our God fearing Republic be damned!!!

[@jacob_trowbridge]

Obama is biden lol😂

[@jwar2163]

No one should ever be above the law. Yet We the People see double standards being applied all across the judicial system.

[@justlikeredwine]

I'm glad you don't agree with presidential immunity.

[@nappybiscuit]

No one is below the law either. If no one has done anything wrong but yet you prosecute them anyway that's a problem.

[@IneptSystem]

@@nappybiscuit You think he hasn't done anything wrong. That's what the court and jury is for.

[@user-co7fb6qe5w]

It's also not fair to our US Constitution or the citizens of America to accept these demowoke judges, prosecuters and those in authority to abuse their power by persecuting and/or prosecuting others because of different political beliefs. This has to be corrected. This is the United States of America. Not N Korea, not Cuba, not Russia or any other country. STAND UP FOR OUR TRUE AMERICA!

[@TheNICFERG]

They shouldn't, however if you're president and you're worried about the opposite political party indicting you over every decision you make, or making up false charges (like they did trump) then we will never have a true president again. Congress is the one who needs to hold them accountable by impeaching them then the senate holds their trial and does the same. Let's say that doesn't happen then ok let's arrest Obama, Bush and Clinton tomorrow.

[@helenwalker716]

Prayers for SCOTUS to make the decision for this correct.

[@sherkelly4533]

Thanks Justice Kavanaugh the GOP must speak up!

[@JEEDUHCHRI]

Does Kavanaugh represent the GOP?

[@judyhatton5798]

​@@JEEDUHCHRIWhat's question

[@jonathanziegler8126]

The Supreme Court should not have a political party.

[@sherkelly4533]

Kavanaugh represents Truth, Honor, Patriotism, Common Sense, the Constitution, Law & Order, Freedom, to all Americans! I represent the GOP and what it represents! And I don't want any lazy slackers in my party, nor do I want WOKE & crooked insane Democrats involved in the running of USA Politics!

[@lillybrandy1188]

@@sherkelly4533 Well said! Thank you.

[@myfreejoe]

we have reached a point where law and compliance is based more on political affiliation and less on equal justice.

[@richardmesser1091]

Poor dopey donnie

[@j3m638]

Nothing new there. They just had the wool pulled over most people's eyes as we thought we were home & dry regarding civil rights....

[@whutzat]

@@richardmesser1091 I feel so bad for you.

[@pasion4piano]

Your country have reach a point where the application of your law has become more of a Tour de Babel

[@silva777]

Not just political affiliation - race, and gender or sexual 'identity', will also trigger pretty radical double standards under joe biden.

[@saulgoodman7221]

Sounds like he’s trying to narrow out one law to convict Trump and not the other presidents to me.

[@biggtimecda]

That's because Trump is a criminal 😂

[@DavidVelez-qk9cc]

To all you trumpeter who benefited of bidens Bill's if you dislike Biden so much give them back as a matter of principle be so happy when all this trump bullshit is over and this country can go back to normal normal

[@ansmerek]

Because other presidents didn't lose the election, lie and claim they won the election, then try to overthrow the fairly elected government

[@keithclanton7634]

Really...which other POTUS attempted insurrection and was charged for committing 91 actual crimes? ....wait...dont tell me 🥱...that ALL Joe Biden's fault...right?

[@jamesm2860]

Better call You then!

[@user-cx9gw5tq9q]

The Justice Dept, according to the attorney, goes through deep analysis of the law before deciding to charge, protecting the system. What about State DA’s like Alvin Bragg? Where are the checks and balances there? That IS the problem!

[@JP-uk9uc]

Just like before, nothing new under the sun, they will fabricate lies and file it in court.

[@sabymondal]

Yes, laws are always a problem to some people. If there was nothing, what s the fear when you have the best lawyers at your disposal, you were the best president in the history, and you are a billionaire? Just think a little, unbiasedly.

[@ericrasaka4197]

The DOJ is thoroughly corrupt. This wouldn't be happening if they were not. Garland and the DOJ are in league with the dems.

[@TheCorvairGuy]

Headline should read "Justice Gorsuch breaks out in laughter when government's attorney asserted there's no politically motivated prosecution here."

[@lancesherman8673]

Obama should be held accountable!

[@rgcol]

For what exactly?

[@randyfischer7737]

@@rgcolyou have to ask

[@judyhatton5798]

​@@rgcolHe's behind BUYBYEBIDEN. He had an American citizen killed, yes corrupt, just slick about it.

[@Tom-hz9oc]

@@rgcolFor the extrajudicial murder of an American citizen. He ordered a drone strike on a wedding party in Yemen that killed a 16 year old American that wasn’t even suspected of criminal or terrorist activities.

[@spacecats3649]

@@rgcol Obama's drone strikes assassination of at least four American citizens, Anwar Al-Awlaki, his 16-year-old son, Samir Khan, and Jude Mohammed - without due process. Also, his son was killed and since Anwar was the target, that adds a layer to the fact that Obama should also be prosecuted if Trump is being prosecuted (past and present Presidents as well).

[@kimberlyswitzer9846]

Thank You , Judge Kaunaugh . This Attorney , is a worm .😊

[@sf9145]

Kavanaugh...................sorry.

[@diambo4life]

Wait.....that decision was made by a sitting POTUS which IS covered by immunity. This does not cover actions by a President who is NOT in office and not making any official decisions from that role.

[@thurin84]

thats an insult to worms. i was thinking more slime molds.

[@winterwhitechocolate]

The attorney sounds more like Daffy Duck to me.

[@user-rg5ri4le2g]

Kavanaugh really🤔

[@patrickdean4853]

So, in essence, the department of justices argument is “trust us, we’re the good guys“. 😂

[@user-cy5ze6rt4q]

FJB

[@janetamerasinghe7824]

Really? While Obama and Obiden were permitted to re-write law and ignore Supreme Court rulings about the borders???

[@DavidVelez-qk9cc]

What does the border have to do with this typical maga deflecting .

[@greghelton4668]

The Supreme Court enforces laws. What specific law did Biden and Obama write and break?

[@johnmartin4323]

Are you also against the last bipartisan senate bill that the republican house dumped (because Trump asked them to,) to sustain the border problem? This man is and never has been any good. It's all about him and always has been. If you're from New York you already know that. Especially if you're in the real estate industry!

[@MattyDemello]

​@@greghelton4668Supreme Court said Biden couldn't forgive student loans debt yet he still did because he's a dictator

[@leewilson1368]

@@greghelton4668Obama is waiting you at the gay bar. Do your duty.

[@stephanriekert8821]

So his answer is, trust the DOJ to be impartial? Really, what are they doing right now

[@larryfoster8820]

😅 No other president went against the peaceful transfer of power.

[@user-wm7jh7uk5t]

​​@@larryfoster8820 because no election in history prior to 2020 was blatantly suspicious. Never in history did they shut down in the middle of the night, kick out the oversight, and usher in tons of votes to be "counted" without allowing the process to be monitored. I was watching the results that night and did not turn my television off until I saw that Trump's lead was more than the remaining elector votes Biden needed, and then suddenly after they pulled their stunt, Biden miraculously claims more electors than were even available.

[@user-wm7jh7uk5t]

Trump had every right to challenge the election until his eyes bled. It's not a Democratic process if the people can't demand true transparency, and the majority of the states wouldn't even accept Trump's legal challenge and threw his case out. That itself should be criminal.

[@ciscadanielle]

The DOJ is the arm of the presidency. They don’t act independently. They do whatever the president tells them to do.

[@keivngibbs2897]

No...its trust that a legal case can be argued but saying someone cannot be prosecuted no matter what, would be a dictatorship in the making. It is incredible how hard this is for some of u to understand!!

[@davidoflight1313]

Justice Brett Kavanaugh was mindfully attentive while analyzing a buffet of word salads.

[@draighodge6039]

Murder is murder no matter what office one holds.

[@terrydillon9323]

You lawyers talk in circles while Rome burns.

[@augustbruce]

Well said.

[@jimmagill4875]

Do big words hurt your brain? This case isn't like a video game, the stakes are real, far reaching, and long lasting. It's better to analyze the matter thoroughly than to rush to a conclusion, making mistakes. Trump, and every future President deserves to have every angle of this case looked at, and the entire matter weighted and balanced. What were you expecting? The Justices to each wear a campaign hat of their personally chosen party, and then take a vote on Blue vs. Red? This is The Supreme Court, not The People's Court.

[@JoeGitzoo]

@@jimmagill4875 swallow we know better vlad

[@mikewurlitzer5217]

@@jimmagill4875 Absolute BULL S...! If this was the "People's Court" as you lied about then tell us all, left or right, why we must be concerned who occupies the WH or holds the majority in the US Senate when an appointment was made? Their SOLE job, and IMO the easiest job in government for HONEST people loyal to the Constitution, is to assure any and all acts of government are either allowed or forbidden by our rather short, centuries old rule book, which even came with an Owner's Manual known as the Federalist Papers. NO these are corrupt political hacks and of course they started their careers as members of America's most dishonest and despicable profession, lawyers. So either these are political HACKs or our most basic and Foundational laws are far too complex for the "best and brightest lawyers [talk about an oxymoron], to comprehend. Which is it?

[@allnoyz1414]

The system is supposed to be a slow examination. It's maddening, though, with such zealous psychopaths in power.

[@tedmoser3657]

That's assuming the DOJ, FBI, and/or the current President are not acting with biased malice.

[@kennethcheesbrough6855]

Ha ha ha that funny shit. Right there.

[@FGP_Pro]

Feelings, nothing more than feelings. FEElings wooo wooo wooo feelings.

[@AlbatrossRevenue]

Yup, he completely ignored Kavanaugh's earlier point about the DOJ being used by an opposing future administration. It was _Obama's DOJ_ that determined it was legally acceptable to drone American citizens. So his response is irrelevant.

[@LordFardCry-ck3si]

Election interference. Did you forget about that part

[@diegojines-us9pc]

why should have such a crook to go after in the first place? not the legal system, its the americans who voted him in knowing what he was like,

[@donwebb5698]

"The department of justice takes criminal law very seriously" only if you have an R after your name.

[@rickdavid1795]

It’s all about double standards

[@jamesnaguib]

DOJ double standard is not a violation, it is a "crime" it is throwing the judiciary system in the trash, and the DOJ should be DOC abbreviation of Department of Crime!

[@GaryFord-ib7oz]

DOC THOUGHT YOU WERE GOING TO CALL IT THE DEPARTMENT OF COMUNISM

[@DaveM-FFB]

"Find me 11,780 votes which is one more than I need to win Georgia"

[@kirstieangellotti9900]

Totally agree they need to stop treating trump with special allowances. Most people would have been in jail a long time ago. LOCK TRUMP UP!

[@Zartoo_3rd_Overlord_ofBlargon7]

Differential enforcement is the name of the game.

[@NashvilleNative3113]

​@@kirstieangellotti9900Get real... Stop smoking crack.

[@Panda-gs5lt]

“Serious and nuanced consideration” is just another way of saying it’s ok when we do it.

[@aceoffox3028]

His argument was literally, It's legal, because I said it was legal. Wow

[@KreatorStudios]

The attorney is a liar and a fool

[@judyhatton5798]

What lawyer?;dann

[@brettg274]

“When you’re in the club, we’ll have your back” … … is what I heard

[@PerfidiousPuffin]

Best summary

[@sandymelzer806]

Exactly,,!

[@Mavrik9000]

That is a good short version! Here's a slightly longer one: You can 'RedRum' people as long you have the backing of your legal advisors and the people with the bombs. Kinda makes world policing seem like an organized crime gang?

[@degraves2003]

So you "Woke" now that it is Trump. Funny how that works.

[@brettg274]

@@degraves2003 what makes you assume that?

[@lornamartin8422]

Because then we can charge Bush, Obama and Biden

[@Boatyarddog]

And Trump

[@laurel1865]

If they broke the law, then yes. Trump keeps breaking laws

[@samstelly8815]

​@@laurel1865if? Pahahahaha.

[@abesapien9930]

No we can't. Frivolous charges will be thrown out of court. A president only has to fear the law if he has committed an actual crime.

[@highoncash]

​@samstelly8815 please tell us how they broke any laws.

[@ACC_24]

So he can order the strike but since he didn't drop the b*** personally, he can't be held accountable?

[@FreedomRider-id6yv]

Exactly, what a crock of an answer.

[@krazyrican2009]

This is a political prosecution. Period.

[@patrickbateman1660]

The fake elector plot and hiding classified documents is illegal

[@degraves2003]

Make sure to where a pad and please provide proof that it is a political prosecution.

[@realLetsGoBrandon45]

@@degraves2003are you a judge? 😂

[@baldilocks1914]

No it isn’t, stop defending a known conman.

[@ttfahd]

Its crazy to hear a lawyer say I believe or my feelings on this matter.....

[@andylopp7825]

Full accountability with the Attorney General. Doesn’t exactly give me confidence in this at all.

[@josephhettiger2711]

Exactly what they are doing to Trump

[@icestationzebra8636]

This is going to be absurd I have a feeing

[@ssmy2081]

What happens when people do not trust DOJ?

[@margaretcrawford8316]

This. This is wjat happens when people don't vote and don't insist upon voter security

[@TinaFivesten]

The people are then silenced.

[@KaiserBlade]

You're looking at it.

[@KaiserBlade]

​@@margaretcrawford8316Joe Biden " I don't need your votes to win."

[@dennishahn1536]

It's a setup and goodbye democracy if Trump convicted . Trump 2024 for All Citizens ..

[@njg26.gustav12]

Whole thing is absolutely absurd. Those who brought this and colluding with, to do this and carry on with it are the ones who need investigating.

[@user-cs5so2dh8x]

getting the swamp creatures to surface is the name of the game/then they shine the lights to get some identification no bag limit

[@andrewjackson4901]

they will be!!!

[@diegojines-us9pc]

did trump break the law?

[@njg26.gustav12]

@@diegojines-us9pc absolutely not. It's ridiculous on it's face... He didn't do anything that wasn't done before.

[@maizie8008]

That's right, and their jealousy is very ugly! I hope these folks know that you reap what you sow!

[@rickyricardo976]

"We The People" will be fixing all of this BS very soon. MAGA 2024!

[@jamesharbin9074]

👍 brother.

[@diane9656]

You won't have a say, Trump will curtail your freedom

[@user-le8nu2rt6w]

Then America is lost!

[@Frank-ly5hx]

The control rests with the Attorney General… that couldn’t be any less comforting

[@quinn-wf3kk]

Time doesn't make some of us forget. What happened to Hilly's classified emails?

[@jadedjaden3790]

tRump stole our nuclear secrets and documents. Where are they?

[@reneem3895]

Hillary sat for over seven hours. Never plead the 5th & they found nothing. Now, let’s talk about all of those classified documents that were in the bathroom of Mar A Lardo.

[@christinavance1128]

I like to know why Obama got away with the fast and furious BS oh that’s right he claimed presidential immunity 🤬🤬🤬 than the ATF arrested the gun store owners for helping the ATF

[@traceyhilton2768]

And Benghazi

[@stegarden]

china and russia hacked Hillarys illegal private email servers and they have copies of the 30,000 classified emails Hillary destroyed.

[@TheCorvairGuy]

The highlight of the SCOTUS oral argument was when justice Gorsuch told the government attorney that he was concerned about future politically based prosecution of a former president, the government's attorney commented that "we don't have that here" and immediately thereafter justice Gorsuch broke into huge laughter!

[@davidwelsh8026]

Exactly

[@AndyNYouTube]

Remember that Trump tried to force the election results to be changed after the lost in 2020. He stopped doing his work as president and spent all of his time and energy pressuring officials in several states to help him cheat and stay in office. There is no way this can be legal for any president. What will you say if Biden loses and then tries a dozen different ways to stay in office, pressuring people all over and scheming plots with crack-pot attorneys? And if he riles up a mob that tries to kill Kamala Harris if she won't help him cheat?

[@Exxeron-ob3tv]

The audio shows he was not the only one laughing.

[@justlikeredwine]

Shows his bias and lack of faith in the justice system that he is part of. No wonder the scotus is enjoying it's highest levels of distrust ever recorded.

[@bflathead]

@@justlikeredwineYou don’t know who the others laughing were. It might have been the left leaning judges. Highly unlikely but possible.

[@kaydeedid]

One of which killed an innocent 16 year old

[@glennhubbard5008]

I imagine the former Presidents are fuming at former Vice President Biden now.

[@Exxeron-ob3tv]

He will happily throw them under the bus. They will petition their masters to intervene, of course. Which may cause the removal of the handrails from Airforce 1's boarding stairs. Pray for him...

[@yourpalanon8182]

Why? They are trying to stop Trump from being president again. They obviously fear something much greater than this should he be president again (he will). All our presidents have been puppets. Who are the puppet masters? People whose names you’ve never heard. They are the ones who own the worlds banks.

[@ChrisJones-fz7ko]

Why? Trumps the only criminal out of them all

[@FNA4E]

Ah yes "we reviewed the drone strikes and determined that a one very narrow immunity applies to this situation that we wont expound upon or elaborate in anyway" Is anyone believing these clowns?

[@omarrashid6170]

Exactly mate, Tucker said on Rogan, that the FBI has dirt on most of the politicians in the USA, & that they are terrified of them, then who controls the CIA, FBI ? 🤨

[@Tommy.461]

As long as his attorney General says it was legal?

[@davedbaveda]

Abdulrahman Anwar al-Awlaki would think otherwise if he was still alive.

[@3maisons]

@@Tommy.461 Attorney General, or as Eric Holder described, "the President's wingman".

[@peterfinn2130]

The immunity he refers to is that ‘individual or party is a Democrat’

[@CallaFab]

WE NEED LESS GOVERNMENT, NOT MORE!!!!!

[@yolandascholten2012]

I couldn’t agree more. Look to Sweden.

[@elisadoyle91]

​@@yolandascholten2012 Sweden is in chaos.

[@csrothlisberger852]

Case never should have been brought in the first place. Not sure why the Supreme Court is even listening to this matter & asking questions. Case should have been thrown out by the lower court.

[@draighodge6039]

The Supreme Court must answer because lower courts let this proceed. They must provide a definitive judgment now, else we will be facing lawfare after every future election.

[@nevbutcher7037]

They shouldn't have, but they are corrupt and helping Trump out.

[@johnmcstabby2699]

Maybe presidents shouldn't be allowed to commit crimes...crazy thought nowadays ig.

[@draighodge6039]

@johnmcstabby2699 does your answer change if it means every living President will be indicted and prosecuted for war crimes?

[@kelbatt7729]

@@draighodge6039 they did decide- but trump appealed

[@Hghjfyu557]

That judge needs to shut this down. Double standard

[@Dk-qf8dd]

Whenever I hear the term “nuanced”, it comes across as “interpreted” under the current definition, not the definition at the time. That scares me especially with the way we see words re-defined by the Government.

[@Aaron-fl2iv]

They'll piss on our heads and tell us, "The drought is over!"

[@edwardpaulsen1074]

That is particularly egregious when I have seen them modify the Merriam Webster dictionary entry in REAL time... during a debate I was watching and commenting in chat, I had captured a timestamped picture of the definition and I was refreshing the page and just a few minutes later, the definition changed... It was only pointing out the original definitions in several other dictionaries, that they did NOT have access to, that eventually forced their hand and they had to concede that there "may be an error".... Right... Liars! Collusion! Criminal intent to defraud.

[@1307scooter]

When he said they will pick a man, than find something to charge him with. That is what is happening to Trump!

[@davidwelsh8026]

That is correct.

[@stevepochec7821]

BS ya full of it

[@leenickshramko1100]

Stalin would be proud.

[@stevepochec7821]

Trump is guilty as sin

[@larryfoster8820]

No other president went against the peaceful transfer of power.

[@Killaogbobbyj]

They want the President to consult the DOJ before making a decision. If he makes a decision opposite of the DOJ recommendation they will bring up charges after you leave office.

[@Exxeron-ob3tv]

One more step in the direction of Federal control. Of everything.

[@DiceMaster740]

@@Exxeron-ob3tv ...? Your solution to "federal control" is to give more power to the president? The presidency is a federal position

[@Exxeron-ob3tv]

@@DiceMaster740 Try reading the post.

[@cvr527]

What this clearly shows is that the Attorney General has way too much power and way too much discretion.

[@debijohnson9478]

I have a question ⁉️ When Congress votes to impeach for dearrealiction of duty. And the Senate refused to impeach ! Why can't they be impeach for the same dearrealiction of their duty?

[@michaeltillotson3711]

Even ignoring the nonsense of the claim, dereliction of duty is not a high crime or misdemeanor.

[@Kainis80]

@@michaeltillotson3711 treason for not only allowing, but actively advocating for an invasion across the US border, certainly is.

[@ChemistyStudent]

The house can impeach, but the senate would just vote that they won't investigate themselves.

[@rogp2270]

​@@michaeltillotson3711neither was a phone call... and yet it happened

[@workingman-xl6xh]

Impeachment used to be reserved for rare occasions but now it seems that if a party wants to get rid of the other party leader, they will impeach that person for a real or made-up reasons or something as simple as one phone call. The Democrats have set a new standard by refusing for the first time in history not to hold a hearing after Congress impeached Mayorkas. It would hurt their party, so Schmer won't allow a debate to even hear the evidence. What goes around comes around when Republicans take back the Senate. Karma is a b****.

[@h4l414]

The fact the Government thinks this isn't a vindictive prosecution is hilarious. These cases are many years old.

[@johncooper7663]

So you don’t care about the crime, because it’s old?

[@h4l414]

@johncooper7663 Old and times up with an election. May care if they prosecuted in the prior 4 years plus they have had. Justice system needs a reset, too biased.

[@GrandpasPlace]

@@johncooper7663 There is this thing called "Statute of limitations" While it varies depending on the statute the general rule is that it is 5 years. This means that if i was a drug dealer 10 years ago and the government found out about it today. They could not bring charges against me. Because it is outside the statute of limitations. I believe what the original poster is referencing are the cases where they are ignoring the limitations and/or bootstrapping it past the limits by claiming a continuation of a criminal act that he is not charged with. An example of a boot strap, following the hypothetical, would be they charge me with dealing drugs after 10 years because someone that bought drugs left them out and a child ate them and died from it. While the sale was outside the statute the child dying has a new limit. They would attempt to apply the new limitation to the old crime. In most cases the court would laugh at them and throw it out. If the court decided to hold the case, then it is grounds for appeal.

[@johncooper7663]

@@GrandpasPlace You have a very good channel btw. Excellent work. So I’ll be nice to you. You’re way too intelligent to be carrying water for Trump.

[@GrandpasPlace]

@@johncooper7663 lol, Im old enough and smart enough to know both parties are just there to screw you and take your money.

[@deborahginop5716]

LET TRUTH PREVAIL !!!!!!!!

[@DanGtube32]

Exactly I've been asking about those drone strikes for a couple years now

[@tomtwo8714]

He explained it well. Other Presidents do something. No problem. But if it’s Trump. It’s catastrophic.

[@diegojines-us9pc]

name on who was ever charged, or ever done the crimes trump has.

[@tomtwo8714]

@@diegojines-us9pcTrump hasn’t done any crimes. You just don’t get it.

[@krissykriss328]

​@@diegojines-us9pcWHAT CRIMES??????

[@matthewhowe3727]

"WASHINGTON - President Barack Obama acknowledged Friday that "civilians were killed that shouldn't have been" in past U.S. drone strikes, but said the administration is now "very cautious" about striking where women or children are present. Obama was asked at a news conference about an increase in the number of people targeted in drone strikes against extremists in Libya, Syria, Somalia and elsewhere. "In the past, there was legitimate criticism that the legal architecture around the use of drone strikes wasn't as precise as it should have been," Obama said. "There's no doubt that civilians were killed that shouldn't have been." He added that over the last several years, the administration has worked to prevent civilian deaths. "In situations of war, you know, we have to take responsibility when we're not acting appropriately," Obama said. Recent drone and other airstrikes against extremist targets have killed large numbers of people. A strike on an Islamic State training camp in western Libya in February killed more than 40 people; a drone strike in Somalia against al-Shabab on March 5 killed 150 people. Another drone strike, in Yemen in February, killed dozens." 2016.

[@dixiehuston4869]

Right!!

[@stephenmilburn7622]

This guy is saying that a president can't make a split second decision that can possibly save lives without conferring with his legal counsel. These lawyers aren't elected, the president is. What a little worm.

[@pattunes1]

But you think a president should be above the law and not be accountable to any? this is not and intentionally not a dictatorship or a monarchy.

[@virginiajessee3708]

President is a figure head

[@rod.Anderson]

@@pattunes1 droning innocent civilians like Obama

[@rod.Anderson]

@@pattunes1 Bidens human trafficking on the border

[@yippeekeiyay7400]

@@pattunes1 are you a mind reader? He never said that. A President can be impeached and removed. Presidential immunity does not make one a dictator or monarch.

[@tollycrump4317]

Trump 2024 so we can end this bullshit!

[@alexdinero8284]

Ouch Kavanaugh was born to deliver this question. Thou shall not kill.

[@Graybeard689]

Is that the only commandment that matters to you, or do the other ones also matter?

[@alexdinero8284]

@@Graybeard689 logically they would have an equal weight. It is 10 commandments and not one commandment and 9 other sort of commandments. Let us pray Father please bring forth to children Barack Obama and George W. Bush the your children that counciled murder by drone and torture you council, daily bread, equity, grace, kindness, knowledge of kingdom of heaven, love, mercy, peace, presence, righteousness, soul healing, water of life, wisdom. Amen

[@Graybeard689]

@@alexdinero8284 amen brother, by with the commandments, is it all commandments for all people? Because I think there is only two commandments hat Trump has not violated, that’s a 20% success rate of following the commandments.

[@michaelgeraghty3989]

The essence of the DOJ attorney's statements" "you can trust the DOJ to administer the law fairly and without prejudice." If he said that with a straight face, he should receive an Academy Award.

[@lawrenceschaad7469]

If he said it at all and he did indeed imply that, he is an enemy to the Constitution.

[@theoprodromitis]

absurd

[@artcooper5867]

Thank you justice kavanaugh

[@stevegosnell1435]

I think that the supreme Court will say that Presidents do have immunity

[@Midnighthacker951]

If not Obama, Bush, and Biden should all end up in jail.

[@gorkyd7912]

Yeah, obviously otherwise we don't have a democracy.

[@MattyDemello]

I wasn't all that happy with Brett Kavanaugh but he's nailing it here. Absolutely right.

[@Ma660t5andw1ch]

What is it about an independent counsel that you feel is a bad thing? While I agree that it walks a fine line, I feel that we need to have the ability to look into possible criminal activities in real time. I don’t feel the president should be treated as a suspect, but I feel that the oic should have the ability to confirm/disaffirm what the president’s counsel is telling him.

[@degraves2003]

Judge Kavanaugh: Ask no questions in regards to the case before him. Commenter: He nailed it.

[@joesmith701]

​@@Ma660t5andw1ch One problem is from whose power does the independent counsel get it's power? Basically if it's from Executive Branch since the President is the head he can influence it and if it's one of the other branches it seems like one branch trying to influence/impede the Executive Branch. Another problem is what we are already witnessing with people in power who turn out to be either activist types or just people who have an agenda against the other side or person, what's stopping those types from influencing a supposed independent counsel? Overall the thought that an independent counsel should be set up for the Executive Branch is ludicrous considering the various problems it could likely have on the power of the Executive. More so if there are already measures that can take place such as impeachment in which case afterwards the former President could be tried criminally if required.

[@joesmith701]

@@degraves2003 It's relevant in the fact that people could easily find what Obama did to be just as egregious and think exceeded his Executive power. So if one President is seen as exceeding Executive power but the other isn't and both cases are not clearly defined by Executive power or has some laws that could be interpreted either way what is stopping later administrations from doing this to later Presidents? It could end with each new President trying to convict the leaving President on some grey line issues.

[@rtm365bnc]

Which laws did Obama break? This is all new here. Or is it, my guy(djt) is bad but yours is worserist?

[@shoegirl407]

Great questions from Justice Kavanaugh.

[@robertswitzer3630]

Not saying the target didn't deserve it; but Obama ordered a drone strike on an American citizen which also killed his 16 year old (American) son.

[@ncd9656]

If they break the law then hold them accountable no matter who they are. It really shouldn't be this hard to understand.

[@GotoHere]

So charge Biden and Obama with murder for their actions to drone in Yemen, Libya and Afghanistan?

[@mitchellmelbon3328]

Exactly 💯

[@jessikurrr01]

Double standards

[@degraves2003]

Yes, if you ignore all contexts, facts, or logic.

[@thethrasher3091]

Finally. Yes bring up those drones

[@markkozlowski3674]

Obama's drone strikes were at least related to his constitutional function as commander-in-chief tasked with protecting the nation. Trump's attempt to overturn the result of the 2020 presidential relation was related to no constitutional function.

[@user-oz2im3lu2o]

GITMO under Bush Jr

[@PGB55]

Yeah. Finally. Bring up something that has no relevance, implications, or in anyway shape or form in the same category.

[@user-oz2im3lu2o]

@@PGB55 This Supreme Court likes to muddy the waters

[@fett_420]

Obama deleted a 16yr old US American in a foreign country with a drone, sounds pretty relevant to the immunity argument to me.

[@bonjiemilitante2916]

Waste of taxpayer's money period

[@peggylockwood-hb9qq]

Did he say ‘ 2 branches concerned with the integrity of their actions’? Seriously?!

[@cw6656]

Geez could they possibly find more annoying lawyers to argue these cases...🤦

[@whutzat]

Woke picks

[@papaix4387]

Yuck yuck prosecutor voice.

[@jackiepowell7513]

Beta!!!!

[@Mal35m-ub6uj]

Sounds like a cartoon character.

[@aarongoff1111]

Apparently Roger Rabbit joined the DOJ.

[@whutzat]

Sack of soy

[@daliahpitter2737]

​@jackiepowell7513 😂😂😂😂 facts

[@damien4401]

Valid question....

[@andyf5116]

So, let’s give more power to non elected DOJ officials?!!!!

[@Baddy187]

The voice of this dude, if you want to torture me, let him read me a childs book.

[@dixiehuston4869]

Hilarious..Thanks for the laugh👍

[@whutzat]

I'm sure he does Drag Story Hour at his local library on weekends.....

[@timjarvis9078]

I’m guessing he performs at night in a glittery red dress heals and lip syncs to Donna Summers She works hard for the money and I feel sorry for Donna Summer 😂

[@whutzat]

@@timjarvis9078 That's a pretty safe bet.

[@dabigjokeoftheday]

DEFUND THE GOV....NO TAXES

[@bluecobra6294]

It is a sad and tragic day when the individuals in a court room are more qualified and intelligent than those in the White House.

[@xray606]

I love how he argues that things are actually better now, so nothing to worry about. Lol Yeah, right.

[@andrewjackson4901]

thats why they are marxists they only believe in year zero

[@elmerfudd979]

The interaction was not Trump's lawyer but the prosecution lawyer & Justice Kavanaugh.

[@splinewalker214]

Yea and msn bc tried to aire it with the headline title trying to make the audience think it’s trumps lawyer. I noticed that yesterday.

[@dixiehuston4869]

​@@splinewalker214I did too.

[@splinewalker214]

@@dixiehuston4869 yea it took me a little time but I realized it was prosecuting attorney and not the da.Because msnbc wouldn’t want there audience to be hearing what they was talking about unless they can fool them into thinking that, the person talking was someone else. I was scratching my head the whole time till I figured it out. It was weird I’m glad someone else cought on too. Sweet!!

[@deborahginop5716]

NOW.

[@jefferyyounce5372]

I'm puzzled how "Asset Forfeiture" hasn't been struck down?

[@Ridingshotgun7]

Saying he didnt carry out the strikes personally is fucking laughable and Im not sure how anyone could say that and be serious when they said it.

[@Jason-TheChad-Muska_circa1995]

If that's the case then Charles Manson needs to have his name cleared immediately and any descending family needs to be paid for his wrongful imprisonment.

[@Bruh-yc9xs]

Crazy how a lawyer arguing in the Supreme Court does not know about the doctrine of complicity, aiding or abetting or joint criminal enterprise

[@jasonleveck8546]

@@Bruh-yc9xs They most likely do, the issue that stands here is can they fundamentally rewrite or reinterpret it when it's not their own man. This is to get Trump and keep the massive ponzi's and other corruptions rolling along.

[@carlbotha1289]

In the military, we were told we could refuse an illegal order! I don't think anyone ever refused an order!

[@Codysdab]

So, the gist is that the DoJ should be in charge of the president's actions. What a shock, not.

[@keivngibbs2897]

No...its trust that a legal case can be argued but saying someone cannot be prosecuted no matter what, would be a dictatorship in the making. It is incredible how hard this is for some of u to understand!!

[@thisguy5017]

​@@keivngibbs2897 that's what the impeachment process is for. Since they tried that route, twice, and failed, twice, his immunity should be intact.

[@user-ve4ig6pw1s]

@@keivngibbs2897 Obviously you like repeating yourself, but only ONE person agrees with you. GO AWAY.

[@PrayingPanda]

No president (or any public official) should have immunity for breaking the law when they are in office especially when they do so under the power of their official authority.

[@PrayingPanda]

If Bush broke the law? Prosecute and convict. Same with Obama, Trump, and Biden. If following the constitution and being law abiding is too hard or inconvenient for the president, then they shouldn't hold a public position.

[@TRM_54]

This bs case should be DISMISSED

[@rafg2857]

Nuance? Nuance is dishonesty of truth. Law is the law.

[@Closertotruth2]

“The Department of Justice take criminal law very seriously.” Unless your a criminal in the Democrat Party.

[@29joenick]

Well said! Now tell us who the hell you're talking about???? Name names...

[@warrenash5370]

@@29joenick Obummer, Bidumb, Clitoris Foundation. Need more?

[@yvonne5657]

Money is above the LAW!

[@jesseschlenker7076]

This gov is a joke

[@franciscosoto7287]

God bless America

[@user-cp8rj1tx9z]

So basically no risk if you are a democrat president

[@jglee6721]

lol

[@Wild1BillS]

Thats Exactly what I heard

[@johnmartin4323]

Brilliant responses. The party the president represents has nothing to do with how they’re treated. Only their actions. What you heard was wrong. Where do you get your information from ? I guess where many people seem to these days. Misinformation media. Perhaps even from foreign sources that take advantage of gullible I’ll informed Americans. How sad is our descent into manipulative ignorance!

[@spottv7261]

Did Reagan get prosecuted for Iran Contra? Did W. Bush get prosecuted for weapons of mass destruction. Did HW get prosecuted for “no new taxes”?!? How stupid are you people 🙄🤦🏻‍♂️

[@kelbatt7729]

No risk if you dont commit crimes

[@TruBlu65]

WoW. What a time to be in !

[@CarlosBlancas-hg4eh]

Amen..that's how God works.. the 8+ years of targeted MSMTDS have reached heights of unimaginable consequences..😊

[@CatholicSamurai]

“Statements that are made by the President to the public do not fall within the realm of criminal statutes.” So that means Trump cannot be charged with inciting an insurrection on January 6th? Bingo!

[@barbarabernard9686]

If this prosecution of Trump stands then Bush, Clinton ,Obama, and for sure Biden need to be also be prosecuted. Cannot be rules for thee but not for me.

[@vickiehuffman1082]

AMEN

[@jrstf]

Unfortunately half the country firmly believes it should be rules for thee but not for me.

[@charlesswain1767]

Republicans have no time for this business it interferes with their golf and deal making.

[@ashleev4605]

Yes. It’s still so wild to me that after the Hurr report, the Biden classified doc case was basically a lost cause due to his inability to recall important events. Events near and dear to him. Or…senility. But he’s nominated to run for re-election as our commander and chief. It’s insane.

[@larryfoster8820]

No other president went against the peaceful transfer of power.

[@RobertSmith-lw2bx]

Wow he doesn’t think that the independent council works like it did. Right. Look what they’re doing now. 😂