'I'd Love For You To Explain What This Means': JD Vance Presses FAA Nominee Over 'Equity' Agenda

[@tclodfelter8789]

"When people get used to preferential treatment, equal treatment seems like discrimination." Thomas Sowell

[@michellesoliz7350]

@@megg.6651 4:59

[@nickcrayne854]

"The new black conservatives assume that without affirmative action programs, white Americans will make choices on merit rather than on race. Yet they have adduced absolutely no evidence for this: Hence, they are either politically naïve or simply unconcerned about black mobility. Most Americans realize that job-hiring choices are made both on reasons of merit and on personal grounds. And it is this personal dimension that is often influenced by racist perceptions." (Unmasking The Black Conservatives) -Cornel West

[@jean-marclamothe8859]

@@nickcrayne854 what racist? Show me one

[@aceboogisback9946]

That comment could apply to everyone in the United States

[@NFLOLDMAN771]

Lol that’s literally describing whites today thinking that a 90 percent white government is somehow against them…

[@retirednavy8720]

I grew up poor with an alcoholic father. I went to bed hungry more times than I care to remember. There were very few opportunities for anybody where I grew up. So when I was old enough I joined the USN. I applied myself and did everything I could to better myself. I used the education benefits available to me to get 2 college degrees. After 25 years on active duty I retired and then became a high school teacher. Everything I have I got based on merit and hard work, nobody gave me anything. That is the American Dream!

[@jillsipocz3582]

I respect you. That is what America was built on. People making the dream come true, not expecting everything to be handed to them.

[@texasnewt]

Equity is a euphemism for discrimination: Equity=Discrimination.

[@GaryKuebler]

That is a very inspiring story!

[@yyyuiu5773]

So you don't bully smart kids and pad pretty girls grades I'm sure

[@robertmatthews2009]

​@@yyyuiu5773 I'm sure he's not a s...-eating troll either.

[@keithblain8763]

Equity is discrimination.

[@texasnewt]

Aye: Equity=Discrimination.

[@onlyhere101]

It sure is.

[@y.s7787]

Read “behind the green mask” to see who’s behind this and to stand up to the tyrants

[@anacc3257]

They're ok with discrimination if it means beating the white supremacist patriarchy and elevating those considered to be at the bottom so those at the "top" (white people as a group, those who are qualified) can be kicked off a cliff.

[@philmckenna5709]

Equity is Violence. Someone has to be the kulaks (sic) ☠️

[@adamhodgson8851]

Merit above all else… that’s equality. That was a good line of questioning Mr. Vance. Very well said. Respectful yet insightful!

[@Sunsaintsandwaves]

This

[@stinkyfungus]

100%

[@iamsumware]

Did you hear the man being interviewed disagree with Vance? Can you detail when exactly he said that there shouldn’t be the same standards?

[@Bruce-kx5ku]

@@iamsumwarehe agreed with vance, i think vance could have dove deeper for example if those boxes bring everyone to the same pay regardless of effort or experience

[@justthinkin5956]

Lara Trump, Betsy DeVos, Steve Doocey, Matthew Whitaker.

[@LoneWolf1985BK]

Anyone that hires an employee under “equity” at a job and as an end result hurts people due to “equity” needs to be held accountable. Fact is, the best person needs to be in place, not elevate someone for “equity.”

[@larrysmith6797]

An equity hire air traffic controller will have a much better chance of killing hundreds of people with just one mistake.

[@stanleyclark923]

JD Vance went too easy on this clown. He should have asked him if he demands a diversity hire surgeon or the "best" surgeon when his kid goes under the knife.

[@MrSinister718]

Stop being racist and accept the fact that blacks are inferior and need extra support just to barely function in a society they offer nothing to but crime, destruction, constant strife and an awful culture.

[@jjf5690]

​@@stanleyclark923always the example I use along with a person's family being on a plane with a pilot

[@mikewaterfield3599]

Never happens that way though.

[@SuperTuffgirl]

“A society that puts equality before freedom will get neither. A society that puts freedom BEFORE equality will get a high degree of both.” ~ Milton Friedman

[@DanEvens-tb1tg]

I really miss Uncle Milton.

[@vvggg12]

They are not even talking about equality. Equality is equality of opportunity, equity is equality of outcome.

[@adenizenabroad9593]

Yeah and his economic measures that led to further monopolization, austerity, wealth disparity, and Alan greenspan...cute quote tho

[@HubertGeorge]

It's heart breaking how little we learned from that man.

[@robertcartledge826]

@@adenizenabroad9593 what exactly do you think is wrong with wealth disparity? Any attempt to correct this would equate to redistribution which only serves to disincentivise innovation and entrepanureship

[@tcurry1531]

I worked for Flying Tiger Freight Airline at Los Angeles International Airport for decades. I never saw racism, of any kind in any part of their hiring practices. We had everything, including all genders, races and ages from Vice Presidents, pilots, flight attendants, cargo handlers and all administrative positions as we were a global freight company with military contracts. I am not saying there is no racism anywhere in our country but the constant emphasis on gender and racial issues takes us back into the realm of the divide we find ourselves in today.

[@GillAgainsIsland12]

That's why the race hustlers will IGNORE YOU.

[@MrYort13]

I worked for FedEx 35 years and seen it many many times. V.P. told us if you know any female A&P she has a job. It looks better on federal contracts to have females ETC.

[@GruppeSechs]

Racism exists, and it's colorblind, as far as who the actual racists are. But it's like saying we have a murder epidemic because a very small portion of the population like to kill people.

[@Bel-ri4vz]

There is a push for more Black females to pilot airliners. Are you aware of this? Cause it's exactly what JD Vance is talking about.

[@whathappenedtofreethinking6902]

Well said. Saying equity doesn’t exist is crazy. America is capitalism. The only color that matters is green. Do y fall for this Us bs Them mentality. Especially when so many examples show otherwise. Look at our Supreme Court, White House. Maybe in corporate culture there are not many minorities at the top, but you don’t just give someone a position because of their race. If it’s your company you put the strongest at the top. Because they are there to make you green. People in current generations are lost. No one’s against st you except those yelling that they are on YOUR SIDE. Just be the best you can be. Times will get hard and there can be ugly people out here but let’s not make those types give is the impression everyone in that race is like that. We all are basically the same. Sht sitting down and hate paying taxes. Let’s build our way up from that commonality :)

[@guitarandotherthings6090]

I would rather hurt the feelings of an unqualified pilot, than the feelings of 250 passengers and explaining to their families why DEI was more important than their lost lives.

[@jackinzbox.]

Nobody in this clip was arguing to lower standards so that unqualified people can get licenses. The whole equity point is to have systems in place to be able to bring up people who have less opportunities to the level of being qualified. To do that the people with less opportunity need more help to get the same qualifications.

[@guitarandotherthings6090]

@@jackinzbox. That sounds like equality, which is fine, create equal opportunity, but we live in a meritocricy, so the effort must still be demanded and the standards the exact same. Equity allows them to make exceptions and lower standards, its already been a problem in ivy league schools where a minority's C is raised to an A, so the airlines think theyre getting the best, but exceptions were made which can get people killed. Im ok with equality, but equity demands you accommodate without merit.

[@jackinzbox.]

@@guitarandotherthings6090 what i explained was definitely equity. You either didn’t understand what I said or are confused on the difference between equality and equity. You can implement equity without lowering standards it doesn’t demand that you lower standards at all. It’s just harder and as humans we take the easy way out.

[@michaeletzkorn]

​@@jackinzbox.Finally someone in the comments who understands that it's about providing educational and training opportunities to the underprivileged minority and not about taking away jobs or lowering standards for the privileged majority.

[@randobad]

Equity is based on making everyone as dumb or slow as the weakest link on the team. Equality means everyone has an equal chance to be the best based on ability and competence.

[@addaustin6730]

And.... effort :)

[@raiklaub975]

yes, that will be the evolutionary outcome of equity. It doesn't matter, if we all fall behind former standards, we all will be saved by equity departments. The dumbing down of humanity.

[@Tenskwatawa4U]

Free lobotomies for smart people!!! 🤣

[@neckarsulme]

which is why the left is so focused on equity

[@jan_phd]

The unequal boxes are that belief system's version of an IQ TEST.

[@johnqpublic8070]

Equality is equal. Equity is a free ride for a certain group. That is racism.

[@douglascrawford3896]

oh crap ,dont say that ,the liberal left karens will come unstuck !!

[@Godsunz]

Good ol white folks did get a free ride huh smh crazy

[@marisawoods]

💯👈🏻

[@texasnewt]

Equality=Equal Opportunity; based on merit; Equity=Discrimination, based on mandated equal outcomes.

[@henryperez606]

People who accuse other people of being racist, but they’re actually racist themselves. That’s exactly what we’re dealing with and it’s insane .

[@johnspurrier0001]

What they always forget to mention is that it isn't putting people on equal footing by simply lifting some up. It's bringing some down, forcefully, and redistributing it to others.

[@michaelschmidt1101]

so true and that is why communism will never work... why put in effort to become the slave to the lazy through 'redistribution'...

[@louisfivaz1367]

As can be seen in some countries politician's ie. SK,SA,Zim ect.

[@bulwerboys6011]

Explain exactly how giving disadvantaged minorities opportunities, "forcefully" "brings some down". For who and how does this happen exactly?

[@eddarby469]

Yes, the fellow on the top of the hill has a shackle and chain around his ankle. It's a variation on the theme of racism. Now we are in new era where government institutionalized racism/discrimination is celebrated. I am honestly stunned that the folks who CLAIM to be against slavery and racism are actually FOR it. It's just a matter of who is empowered to exercise the power over others.

[@Terminal-Man]

@@bulwerboys6011 That’s not what we are talking about. The chart is not expressing equal opportunities that’s not the point of the chart. And lowering standards only makes the travel more dangerous. People already have equal opportunity. Life may simply not flow in such a way as to wash someone into completion of a goal. If you want to be an airplane pilot put in a lot of work and effort. Some people have to put in more than others because of intelligence or because of life circumstances. It’s not society’s fault that someone was born without any hands or feet. A blind person cannot operate a printing press. Life is unfair. The more that people understand life isn’t fair the more it will seem fair because they will know what to expect what they can do realistically in their lives.

[@stvargas69]

The push for equity is the new kinder gentler racism

[@TheyCalledMeT]

no it's not, it's more skilled in looking nice .. it's more deceptive and manipulative .. but it's not kind nor gentle

[@thesisypheanjournal1271]

It’s actually Marxism.

[@user-Old_Ben]

@@TheyCalledMeT -- yes, we know ... yet others seem to love the superfluous kindness and meaningless virtue signaling!

[@T0tenkampf]

I tried to apply for an FAA position as a Center ATC. I had high test scores and personal recommendations from current controllers. I was told that unless I suddenly became an Asian Woman that I had no chance. Affirmative Action ruined this organization and we don't need more of it under a different banner.

[@TheFi1thyCasual]

Well that can’t possibly be true, they discriminate more against Asians.. or are you saying you didnt make the bar set by Asian women?😂

[@NunyaBizznaz]

@@TheFi1thyCasual 🤡🤡

[@Delta9SFBay11]

Happened to me but for Firefighter in 1982 and was told "You're one of the most qualified applicants but, you're a white male and I can't hire you". That's when I became a Republican.

[@neckarsulme]

it's not even "affirmative action"...it's discrimination based on race and gender

[@andyh8239]

Too bad. Dems are in charge now. Deal with it.

[@bh7622]

“I sure hope my flight crew is diverse.” - Nobody

[@svenolsen8184]

How long till that plane crashes?

[@ATigerShark]

​@@svenolsen8184 If you hire based on competence instead of ethnicity it may never.

[@purplemonkey649]

Will it extend to maintenance crews? Or is it just a dude with lipstick handing out peanuts?

[@Hugatree1]

@@purplemonkey649 good one!

[@neglectfulsausage7689]

Isnt it obvious b y now? When the black guy said "we want the future to look less like the people in this room" when he was referring to a room of majority white politicans in a majority white country, he was saying "we want to the future to be less white in this country". That's genocide talk. its like going to zimbabwe with a bunch of white people and saying "we want the future here to be less black". Wake up.

[@emperornapoleon6204]

I am immensely proud to have voted this man into the senate. He is articulate, measured, and most importantly of all, sensible.

[@ShoEnTeL1]

You dont see through the veneer being proffered by both gentlemen. Class inequality is what is killing ALL of us. Vance and repubs, AOC and DEMS (as well as Biden) are continuing it, while we continue to loose ground financially. The 1% make us poorer, hungrier , sicker while they fuck off with all the wealth. You OK with that? Then why vote for any of these criminal caproate a*sholes??

[@coudgeb]

Yes and unfortunately he’ll get labeled a bigot for this , smdh

[@jeffblackard9753]

Good call both of you. BUT he’s to nice he should call out the bullshit racism for what it is.

[@lukenader]

Yes! Exactly, I’m so ready for this ride to shift

[@jamesb6857]

You people are such good people. It’s criminal. It’s criminal to have such awesome folks as you that just don’t know what the heck is going on. I pray for y’all. I hope one day you can see.

[@SiCrewe]

"Equity has everybody on a level playing field". Picture, literally, shows an UNEVEN playing field with different people being given different amounts of assistance.

[@tingle2958]

Exactly.

[@Fujtajblus]

Which is fine when we look at the example that is being used .. kids want to watch a football match over the fence, the tallest kid does not need any boxes to see over the fence, the middle one needs one, the smallest one needs two. It makes sense to distribute it in such a way that all can see over the fence. The problem is that in reality, majority of things they want to distribute is "the result". So it does not matter you work 14 hours a day... no, you make 500k a year, so you should give away a lot of that money because there are people who are lazy and do jack shit and they ought to be on the same level as you! Because equity! That is the problem. This is how they use it. And what is their end goal. This distinction has to be made and aspire for equal opportunity, not equal outcome. If you try to level the equal outcome, our entire society will perish. It will be absolutely doomed and a war will ensue.

[@SiCrewe]

@@Fujtajblus For a minute, there, I thought you were going to try and argue that the "watching a football match" thing is how life SHOULD work. Thing is, for better or worse, life ISN'T a "level playing field". Some people are talented, some people have spent years gaining qualifications and some people are just born into rich families. I don't really see why we should attempt to give everybody sufficient assistance so that everybody from Elon Musk to a crackhead in the gutter gets an equal opportunity to "watch the football match". Do we REALLY suppose people like Joe Biden or Nancy Pelosi would accept being "lowered down" so they only have the same lifestyle as a factory worker? If THEY won't do it, why should everybody else have to?

[@patdogs]

@@SiCrewe you're missing the point and so did JD Vance. it's not about giving crackheads opportunities..... it's about giving people from underprivileged backgrounds who don't have the connections or money to get a pilots licence to have the opportunity to study, pass the exams and become a pilot to the standards everyone is held to....

[@nofabe]

@@Fujtajblusah yes, because earning 500k is always because of hard work and never because of nepotism, luck, or exploitative means - I say level the playing field, not necessarily completely equal, but at least balance it a little... Look at the top 1%, how disproportionately wealthy they are, and how the vast majority of them didn't get there because of "hard work"

[@OneWildTurkey]

Equity is approved discrimination.

[@texasnewt]

Equity=Institutionalized Discrimination ... literally, meritless!

[@anacc3257]

Discrimination against white men

[@joetriolo9161]

bingo

[@iambob6590]

Equity literally means 'Equality of Outcome'. When pushed in a social context it has ALWAYS lead to mass murder and genocide. The push for Equity is also the reason for the trans indoctrination of our children.

[@zacherylamb8811]

So.... hatred against whites? Gotcha.

[@mcvet57103]

I retired from a company that hired based on meeting the EOE guidlines, and once a person was hired via those guidlines, they never were fired for incompetence. In fact they would bend over backwards to give that person more leeway and less work responsibility to avoid having to fire them. But someone not hired by those guidlines would get fired for the slightest violation of company policy and/or proceedures.

[@chess1458]

Same thing they do at the post office

[@damianstasek8946]

Thats racist.

[@MDavis.A25]

Damn damn

[@Th3_Gael]

They did that here in the UK about 20 years in most government offices. Inept personal were never fired but simply moved, many to their own department. Departments HAVE to have a leader so they were promoted to department heads, with a total employee count of 1. These people have now shuffled sideways to running actual departments and no-one seems to know why goverment offices are so badly run. Jeez, I wonder why

[@476429]

Lower standards to meet quotas for *any* job is a recipe for disaster. I've read a couple of articles about schools getting rid of AP or honor programs because it can make other students feel "lower". Pushing people down rather than helping people up will have a detrimental effect on society at large.

[@sooners2037]

People wonder why our educational systems are a joke that is why. When schools don’t teach their kids or offer them ways to challenge themselves we systematically become stupid

[@leiatyndall8648]

As someone who took and passed AP American History and Cobcurrant Spanish, both helped me save money when it came to paying for college credit. To eliminate thosr classes would hurt kids who financially struggle bit who want a college education. I basically paid my own way through college; in fact my dad was actually OPPOSED to any of us kids going to college. One sister took out loans (still owes on those), another sister served in the Army, & I just worked abd did school kinda slowky. But that AP History class saved me from having to take 2 college classes, which saved me hundreds if dollars, so I could move on. I never looked down on those who didn't take the class or the test, & I doubt those who didn't even cared abt AP History, so who does it hurt? The hurt is only in removing advancef classes, not in the offering of them. Sorry if any typos, I'm riding in a moving vehicle.

[@MonotJin]

The government is dumbing down the public schools to keep the mindless drones while the rich will send their children to private schools. You know how it goes keep the rich, rich and the poor poor.

[@smoothf1]

The Senator is full of bs. For one thing the minimum standards are not being breached. The equality/equity chart is bs. The orange color is under dispute and the whole purpose of of the govt intervention in systemic racism is to even out the brown color...which is clearly not to scale. Let's put it another way. In medical terms, can you imagine if hospitals never let residents practice medicine? Because the attendees are the best of the best right? Who cares about their replacements? Every investment requires a sacrifice in the present. To say that the best pool of pilots are white males is bs. The best way to grow the pilot pool is to grow the pool of applicants. The best way to do that is by example...which is diversity hiring. Many diverse would be pilot students wouldn't think that pilot is in the list of eligible careers because they doen't see people like them in that career. That is a very powerful motive. Can you see yourself or your kids as a pro basketball player? Didn't think so. Some fixing needed there too in the reverse direction. Referring to the charts again, the disparity of the brown heights make the required talented and/or grit (orange color) unnecessarily large to overcome the brown advantage.

[@ZeroESG.goopootoob]

I wish your last sentence was worded more carefully. It seems almost opposite your valid point vis-à-vis the sentences prior.

[@Triumphs1962]

Why wouldn’t you want Vance as your VP???? He is right on.

[@raystimphil8280]

In this case he did a really good job. I really haven't seen anything else from him that shows that level of competence, and I never really got the vibe that he would be a good fit.

[@paulminchk6145]

When planes start falling from the sky just remember your safety was less important than the person's qualifications because of their gender, color, sexual orientation, and the other identity politics being used for equity.

[@dakotafred1829]

Now what is more important? Picking pilots by their skin color or sex with minimal qualifications. Or losing a few hundred lives as collateral damage for the greater good of diversity, inclusion or equity?

[@wnchstrman]

That is not an unintended consequence. That is the intended outcome. They mean to do harm.

[@LRRPFco52]

Or the pilots’ ekg results being loosened to allow them to keep flying, even though they would have failed prior to a certain thing we can’t talk about because P doesn’t like sunlight on their juice.

[@LRRPFco52]

@@dakotafred1829 If Kamala was a pilot, the pilot seat would have knee rests....

[@yelloworangered]

Or when trains start jumping rails? I can think of a lot of places where equity without equality of skill and intelligence could lead to disaster.

[@roth1351]

I was raised to expect anyone in a job to be up to the jobs expectation, never to put color, race into the picture NEVER been an issue outside of knowledge in my mind.

[@walterpierce6061]

Are you white?? As if I didn't already know .

[@NatalayaTube]

​@Walter Pierce you sound like the racist. Joanne does not.

[@ivanbluetarski9071]

@@walterpierce6061 that would only matter to a racist ie : one who judges by skin color and not character

[@walterpierce6061]

@@ivanbluetarski9071 BS. I know a racist when I see one Now I see two of you here. Probably a lot more. Don't lecture me about anything. You probably voted for Trump. Racist

[@justtryme2020]

​@@walterpierce6061 Why would race have anything to do with it? Do you not believe a person should be hired because they are the most qualified, best applicant for the job? Or do you believe we should start hiring people for solely their skin color?

[@NZComfort]

Equality means everyone has the same opportunity for success. Equity means putting more value in one group over another. So, now I have to ask: 1) Who gets the preferential treatment 2) Who gets to decide that group/groups 3) What is the cost?

[@truthwarrior122]

it means everyone is treated like crap except the thieves on top.

[@kbpeters4246]

At my grade school, we have the poster on equality and equity that is much better depicted. One half of the poster has three boys (or girls) of three different heights standing on a level grass ground facing a wooden fence and beyond the fence is a baseball game. The taller boy can easily see over the fence. The middle boy has to stand on his toes and is straining over the fence to see. The third boy is also standing on his toes, but no matter what he does, he is way too short to see the game beyond the fence. On the other side of the poster is the same three boys, but this time the middle boy and the short boy are standing on boxes of two different sizes where they are large enough for the two to easily over the fence. No one is bringing anyone down. Not one boy is negatively affected by the others. ALL can see the game comfortably. Why is that a problem? Are you against the fact that two boys needed help to see the game?

[@DragNetJoe]

@@kbpeters4246 Because that's a cartoon and only one way to draw it. It is depicted as if there is no cost to the "equity", but there always is. You perhaps have seen the other one, where the short boy is standing, the middle sized boy has his feet cut off and the tall boy has his legs cut off at the knee. They are all the same height and have achieved equity.

[@kbpeters4246]

@@DragNetJoe Oh Lordy, dude, life lesson can be easily depicted in allegories, aphorism, parables, proverbs, cartoons (used for decades), historical artworks, Bible verses, etc. Why would anyone cut off anyone's feet or legs when there are far better methods to create equity. What you have proved is there are horrible ways and far better ways to create equity. Our job is to find a better way and not to rely on negative harmful methods.

[@Brojeejaksonflaxinwaxin]

​@@kbpeters4246 you should really speak to someone who has lived in soviet russia, or Cuba, or Venezuela, or Russia. This equity idea you are trying so hard to promote in your well intentioned ignorance has already caused the deaths of over 100 million people over the last century. The hard truth is that beyond the intrinsic value of human life, we are not equally valuable. The scientists who discovered the cure to polio brought more value to society and humanity at large than the guy who bags your gorceries at your corner store. So why on earth would we live in a society where they are rewarded equally? In what world do people continue to strive for more if they are treated equally to the people who strive for nothing? This is and always has been the problem with this argument which is the core problem with communism and which is why modern communist countries have adopted forms of capitalism (which has created inequality) in order to survive. Equal outcome in inherently against human nature. When China's revolution promised that everyone would have food, they didnt mention that 40million people would have to starve to death for people to have their "equal share". Please talk to people who have left these countries for America and ask them the question about equal opportunity vs equal outcome.

[@5ONeil]

Freaking AMEN! Im SOOOOOO relieved that this man said this in an open public forum. "I just cared about whether or not someone can do the job..." That's it! I don't see any color when it comes to completing tasks or jobs. Can it be done safely, effectively, and efficiently? Then you're my guy! I don't even care if they were a college buddy. If the rando person shows up and can put perform my friend, then sorry brother... But I have a business to run. Nothing personal at all.

[@backyardcarhints4403]

What Putin's ball boy questioned was already policy in the FAA. Vance did nothing but blow hot air and he still doesn't understand what the boxes mean.

[@Antonyg2100]

"I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character. I have a dream today" How quickly they have forgotten...

[@waldoparsnip1025]

But look at the contents of most of their characters today ! Crime is all they know .

[@bobdittloff5966]

It was hard to watch the whole George Floyd thing. You know the criminal drug taking thief being treated like a hero. Nobody could even visit their mother or father in a nursing home let alone go to their funeral. Then this thug dies from a overdose and they March in the street and have a parade with the whole family. That's equity shoved in your face. What did that do for the cause of racism??? What does destroying monuments depicting history do for racism??? Or burning and looting stores for that matter. People reap what you sow. Equity is not only unattainable it actually promotes racism, and transphobia.

[@M0butu]

​@@bobdittloff5966 Like a hero? Even worse, like a martyr! Like as he sacrificed himself for a noble cause or smth. As if black civil rights history isn't littered with dozens of genuine martyrs... But they weren't killed by cops, though. That's apparently "the problem".

[@uberman6023]

Those days are GONE baby. Color is all that matters. Competence? 😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@obijuan3004]

Equity is to provide equal access to opportunity, even if some assistance like ramps for handicapped people are needed. In schools equity is about helping kids with things like learning disabilities or language disabilities, or transportation to get the help that they need so that they have better access to education. Equality is about treating people equally in the work place or in school to protect against day to day discrimination. Equity applies to everyone’s access, Equality is about how we treat each other. Both extend beyond just race. Bullying people for having red hair, or being a slow learner is also a violation of equality.

[@uncommonwisdom101]

What makes this even more worrisome is that when these so called "equity" people are hired no one company can easily fire them because of their incompetence and they can remain incompetent for that same reason.

[@douglascrawford3896]

FEDERAL GOVERNMENT IS FULL OF THESE PEOPLE AND THEY KNOW YOU CANT TOUCH THEM !!!!

[@GillAgainsIsland12]

That's been happening for years. The competent people always have to take up the slack of the incompetent ones hired based on factors other than their skills.

[@troystewart7730]

Why did white people NEED the law to allow them to fire someone solely because of their race? Let’s turn this around and hear you justify why you deserved better? Maybe get an 8th grade education- stop whining like a victim and just admit it- your parent grandparents great grandparents none could be fired because they were white. Yet just 60 years ago- so parents, grandparents, everyone related going back to 1776. Why as of 1963 did white fat arses need the law they could fire by race? Is that racist? Are you racist or you wish to condemn the law a mere 1 generation ago- and admit you are better off BECAUSE YOU ARE WHITE

[@GillAgainsIsland12]

@@troystewart7730 Lies, lies, lies. My father was fired from 3 jobs, and my mother from 2. The companies could give 2 chits what color they were. You believe in lies, you think like a dummy.

[@darylh8657]

Bull$1t. Aviation is merit-based and those not making the grade are soon mustered out. Those who complain the most are the ones who blame others for their own shortcomings.

[@mcfarvo]

Thomas Sowell has explained "equality vs equity" and "real justice vs social/cosmic justice" over and over, yet DEI insanity continues

[@interestedparty00]

The most important thing the FAA can do is to assure diversity. The 2nd most important thing they can do is assure safe aircraft operations.

[@Bancheis]

@@lizalewis9270 I believe you will find that the previous comment is what we, in the industry of trolling KZbin comments, refer to as "sarcasm".

[@lizalewis9270]

@@Bancheis My mistake. It went over my head

[@boogathon]

@@interestedparty00 You have it backward.

[@johneary8874]

@@boogathon Yes, to say the least. Performance is the main criteria for flight and service personel with all others being insignificant by comparison

[@HiVisl]

The injustice of saying that people who have chosen not to educate or improve themselves need to go ahead of those who have spent years, time and money doing just that.

[@deanlowdon8381]

No one is saying that…

[@HiVisl]

@@deanlowdon8381 yes, they are. Lowering the requirements in order to get more representation is, by default, doing that.

[@deanlowdon8381]

@@HiVisl You think they’re lowering the requirements to be a commercial pilot!?

[@HiVisl]

@@deanlowdon8381 Do I think? It's a demonstrable fact. It's done in many career paths. Have you read up on how they provide “equality”?! They do just that. How do you think women get into the army?! 😂

[@deanlowdon8381]

@@HiVisl What absolute bullshit! There is no one hiring unqualified people for jobs just because they’re a certain race or gender.

[@leslovesliberty1776]

Nobody gives a lick what color their pilot is, they just want to arrive safely!!

[@Anne-pv9cb]

I care. I don't want any affirmative action people in charge of my life.

[@docsavage8640]

Who even sees in the cockpit?

[@cherylrobinson7876]

@doc savage Can we still use that word? 😂

[@frankboyer7153]

Never seen a pilot or co pilot don't know if white black brown or a woman I know that I got to where I was going

[@Sorain1]

The only ones who care what color the pilot is are racists. Golly gee, I wonder who keeps making a big deal out of that?

[@Windtee]

As a certificated pilot I'll say, Safety and Experience first!

[@Thurgor_Supreme]

You strawman dumb-dumbs... They're not going to hire unqualified candidates. In fact, the recruiters won't even push unqualified candidates into the hiring manager's candidate pool

[@olauda]

As a passenger I very much agree.

[@matthewstrauss6402]

As a certificated mechanic I second this.

[@dianelemay3661]

Thank you saying that as a pilot! ❤

[@BrockLanders]

The irony is that equity is a complete violation of Title 7, which means it’s against the law to impose. It’s literally illegal.

[@johndanielsforJesus]

If that's true, then it even makes the Republican side, complicit, because people like Mr. Vance, here, or someone like Jim Jordan, Rand Paul, or John Kennedy, very intelligent fellas, should have figured out what you have, and brought it to bear. Maybe they have, and it's being stymied. Idk. Not discounting you, in the slightest, but this issue should have been brought to bear, by now. Unless, like I said, our "right"-side of Government, is either complicit....or stymied.

[@pamtnman1515]

“Not discriminating against me is discrimination!” America needs to completely start over because this nonsense is everywhere

[@sentinel8185]

@@pamtnman1515Well if your not discriminated upon, how will you learn? That’s how I’ve improved and gotten ahead of everyone else… So yes “not discriminating is discrimination”.

[@Bancheis]

@@pamtnman1515 100%. I have noticed the change in society for over the past 20 years... Not only because of diversity and inclusion, but also because of the failure of our education system and bad parenting. We as a nation are becoming less and less proficient in the basic skills needed to survive and provide for ourselves. Everything from fast food workers and teachers, to corporate VPs, doctors, and politicians, I have seen a significant increase in incompetence in every aspect of my life. Our country isn't just filled with nonsense, it is filled with decaying intelligence, decaying morals, and decaying ethics. People are less capable today of doing the basic jobs they have done for decades, EVEN THOUGH we have access to more information and easy training more so than any other time period. It makes absolutely no sense that this is the case unless the reason for it is oversaturation of information and coddling of lazy or weak-minded people. If you give people food for free, why would they ever bother to work for it? If you can work at a job with no fear of being fired, why would you ever improve yourself? If you are comfortable in your life and have no urgent needs, why would you ever strive for more?

[@pamtnman1515]

@@sentinel8185 if what you just wrote here makes sense to you, then carry on. I’ve read it several times and not been able to make sense of it. Mr Washington argues in this video that my colorblind approach to life is actually discriminatory. No, it’s not. It’s the essence of not discriminating. This fake victim garbage is responsible for setting back race relations several decades. A lot of good work getting people to not judge one another by skin appearance is going out the window by the same people who insist we shouldn’t discriminate, but who do very much discriminate. A lot of good people are real tired of it and you are losing your audience

[@marykubick8783]

JD As usual, - intelligent questions and analysis.

[@henrymorgan3982]

Dumb people are same as smart people= "equity."

[@GillAgainsIsland12]

Why don't they do that in sports? Short people same as tall people on the basketball court? LOL!!!

[@whyomgwhywtf]

​@@GillAgainsIsland12 hey you may be on to something... In an equitable society the 5ft 6 dudes finally got a chance with them chicks who only want 6ft 3 and up dudes.

[@smgdfcmfah]

@@reasonwarrior Exactly. We can't make people taller or smarter so the only answer is to hamper the advantaged. Harrison Bergeron by writer Kurt Vonnegut sums it up nicely!

[@smgdfcmfah]

@@reasonwarrior Oh, and nice Rush reference. Always liked that song!

[@GillAgainsIsland12]

@@whyomgwhywtf Right, and you'll see how fast those chicks will throw EQUITY out the window. LOL!!

[@donavonjewett9966]

That's what happens when you give every kid that shows up at a competition the same trophy as the winner. They go through life expecting not to have to try or be competitive or competent to be rewarded. That's equity. God help us all.

[@donavonjewett9966]

@@philipmartin2919 Well if they can get it to 0% then they will have achieved equity.

[@LioraLand1]

My vote in action. GO VANCE!!!! This will be the first of many

[@raymondbercovitz5132]

JD Vance, ..... you're good!!!

[@jw9737]

As a person of color, there does come an inherent sense of pride from seeing people who look like us in certain positions such as airline or military pilot. As an Air Force brat myself, I often looked up to pilots. They were my rock stars. However, I would never in a million years advocate for relaxing standards in order to see someone like me in those positions. As a matter of fact the source of pride came from knowing that a person accomplished a very difficult feat and underwent years of hardship to attain that position. They overcame academic and logistical obstacles to earn those pilot wings. If I knew that a pilot, whether they look like me or not, did not undergo all of the prudent and necessary steps to attain their position, not only would I not want to fly on a plane with them, I would not respect them as a person. This is the problem with leftism. Under the guise of good intentions they actually create an environment that is so detrimental and disempowering, The unintentionally create more racism than they solve. Should any obvious discrimination and unnecessary barriers be removed? Absolutely. However, they should be removed for everyone. White, black, and everything in between.

[@SupHapCak]

My only problem with what you said is you think it’s by accident. The government wants you disempowered.

[@breal36w]

"unintentionally create more racism" This is done by design.

[@parajerry]

It's not pride if the position was given for any other reason than merit. I have known many people of all colors, sex, and relationship that were given positions because of their color, sex, or relationship...not merit. They have no right to have any pride and those looking at them would have false pride. The real issue is, even of they did have merit, everyone second-guesses them because of all the 'equity' hiring. Why is mom proud of her son for being the VP for her husbands company when everyone else at that level has more experience, more education, and more merit? Truth is, she doesn't....except when bragging to her friends...but she knows that they know.

[@jw9737]

@@parajerry the pride comes from knowing that in spite of what you're told, usually by leftists, that you and people who look like you are destined to be oppressed and suffer, it's nice to see an exception to that. The better thing is that those who do actually overcome personal hardships under their own merit tend to be on the conservative side of the spectrum. I am one of them.

[@breal36w]

@@parajerry Kids today suffer from the "everyone is a winner" Mentality. They justify their actions on the sole basis of it being deserved for no effort instead of working for it. Like the are owed something just because the breath air

[@farmerjohn6526]

The problem with the social equity theory is that while you might convince dumb people that they are smart, you won't convince smart people that they are dumb. 🤔

[@Kburloco]

I guess your statement is a self confession?

[@Jamesbell875]

What he means is Biden has flooded your system with misfits people who have sold their souls, what will they think when they are found out. 😂😂😂😂 🇦🇺

[@Texasirishboy]

​@@Kburlocono I think he's talking about you

[@GillAgainsIsland12]

Or convince the smart people that the dumb people are smart.

[@troystewart7730]

Why did the law allow that a black man could be fired from his job for only the reason he was black? As recent as 1963. Mere 60 years. Also 70-80-100 and forever going BACK in time. Why do you deserve the advantage you have today because your fat white arse was the child of some fat white arses? You are against someone by color being favored. That’s exactly what the law said- so tell us what makes you so Fing special ?? You aren’t and I can tell you are the victim here aren’t you

[@lancersharpe]

When people say, 'thank you for the question Senator' you know a lie is coming.

[@annasanders8401]

Yep, and it’s a stall tactic

[@MrIncognito236]

That's what they say to give them time to frame the lie 🤥

[@davidyetter5409]

That's a common opening statement predicting answer avoidance. It prevails in questioning progressives.

[@thinkinsidetheboxsquarecir3303]

It’s too late in the ball game to not fully understand a policy

[@esmith2k2]

He got his point across clearly without disrespecting the opposing viewpoint, highlighting the flaws in their logic and ending with a statement of how this will directly affect us. Well done.

[@xeykdeyk]

thats not well done. its weak and ineffective. his opponents are insane racist who want us dead.

[@RandomYoutuber1]

Here's how to explain "Get woke, go broke". Equity prioritises the selection process of physical characteristics (i.e. skin color, sex) to provide opportunities to those groups. If that is the priority, then it is no longer about whoever has the best ability to do a job, but who has the highest "privilege". Companies using this are focusing more on "who" is making the products, rather than the "quality" of those products. Thus, equity results in a degrading of those products and services, to the detriment of the customer. Customers will then go elesewhere for their products and services. Company goes broke in the process. Secondly, using a selection process of "physical characteristics" is racism. The woke activisits know this, but are trying to hide it by changing the name to "equity". Don't be fooled by it.

[@jjf5690]

Yup 100 percent true. I know a guy who moved from Atlanta after getting laid off at the facility he worked for along with everyone else because they promoted a black dude to senior manager after being there for a month and screwing over the guys that been there for over 20 yrs who applied and the black dude did so much damage in like 2 months by either ordering waaaay too much shit or not enough and not knowing how or when to call in the semis and just made everything really late or canceled and it was just so much of a mess that they started laying off ppl but not the black dude out of fear of being called racist and then eventually they just had to shutdown that facility lmao that's what they fucking get.. Sucks for the hard working employees who were loyal and the ones who waited and worked their asses off for yrs to finally bid for that job all for it to be given to a guy who been there a month cause he was black smh sucks for them bit serves those higher up's right.. Hopefully they lost out too and just didn't get the same position and another job

[@dimitrishow_D]

meanwhile in china, im almost starting to wish our western countries get taken over by russia or china

[@tokamara8795]

TL;DR Equity is anti-Whitism

[@aldopine]

Equity HAS NEVER brought the best forward. Go ahead and prove me wrong. 😎👍😂

[@walterpierce6061]

You're a racist and you're wrong

[@dkajj]

Haven't you heard of Socialism? It AlWaYs WoRkS. 🤥

[@marisawoods]

💯👈🏻

[@hanselbermudez7604]

Kamala Harris and Pete Butigeg! Oh wait, I just proved you right….

[@Bancheis]

Obviously none of us want the best pilots. We just want the "good enough" while checking the right boxes to get that free gov. program money. That's called societal progress which we, as the megacorporations running your lives, believe strongly in. We only want the best for our customers, and we will make sure you get what we want you to have, because we can't trust you to provide it for yourselves.

[@5dollarshake263]

Wtf! JD Vance could have gone soooo much harder on that guy. I was expecting him to push way harder.

[@huh4233]

You see what color that cat is? That ain't happenin.'

[@wnchstrman]

Precisely what I was thinking. We are way beyond niceness at this point. That time has passed. Bring the fire.

[@dodieodie498]

Yes. He didn't ask what the guy has done to actually implement "equity" in practice.

[@kevinjones5715]

I think that was part of the point though, was to show how flimsy and lame it is, and how it crumbles at the first call.

[@mariosneedwagon9415]

He should have asked why his son deserves equal opportunity when there are less privileged gender community groups, such as women, who deserve equitable, diverse and inclusive representation.

[@JoeDuffy69s]

Very well put. Merit is different from opportunity. Opportunities can be addressed at a grass root level at the beginning stages of someone’s life (like education). Merit is strictly “who is the best person for the job”. Merit has no place for equity, only equality.

[@MEMELIFEBABY]

The meritocracy literally built this country into the super power it became and is now in decline in spite of it.

[@dscat5908]

if i am in a plane. I want the best pilot, period.

[@topchief777]

This country was built on slavery, lies & manipulation. Check your history books. The ones taught in school, which also vary from one school to another & are missing parts in order to manipulate.

[@obijuan3004]

Equity is to provide equal access to opportunity, even if some assistance like ramps for handicapped people are needed. In schools equity is about helping kids with things like learning disabilities or language disabilities, or transportation to get the help that they need so that they have better access to education. Equality is about treating people equally in the work place or in school to protect against day to day discrimination. Equity applies to everyone’s access, Equality is about how we treat each other. Both extend beyond just race. Bullying people for having red hair, or being a slow learner is also a violation of equality.

[@dscat5908]

@@obijuan3004 there is no such thing as equal access to opportunities. For when you raise one group you bar access to another group. There by discriminating against another group. Which is why marit is the most equitable.

[@CBALLEN]

Equity means,special rights fir everyone with a specific skin color.This means,excluding others based on skin color for jobs,school tuition, test scores.Its all ridiculous and needs to be stopped.

[@douglascrawford3896]

YEP ,MEXIFORNIA IS PROOF OF THAT !!!!!

[@Dr_JSH]

"I make stuff up!"

[@jameson2916]

Bad thing is most of them already have special rights and support but it still isnt enough.

[@tdubz87]

​@@jameson2916 what aboutism

[@Whatiftheresmore1314]

❤JD VANCE!❤️🙏🏻🇺🇸

[@tanabhensley]

JD Vance is quickly becoming one of my favorite Senators!

[@par32]

But he never made a point here. He said it “seems” like standards are being lowered but didn’t state specifics. He even agreed that we should be giving everyone equal opportunity which is exactly what the man being questioned said the image was about. So what was his point?

[@immobilien]

C’mon, what about Fetterman?

[@immobilien]

Just wait till Snoop Dogg is your pilot on an overseas flight….

[@kbpeters4246]

At my grade school, we have the poster on equality and equity that is much better depicted. One half of the poster has three boys (or girls) of three different heights standing on a level grass ground facing a wooden fence and beyond the fence is a baseball game. The taller boy can easily see over the fence. The middle boy has to stand on his toes and is straining over the fence to see. The third boy is also standing on his toes, but no matter what he does, he is way too short to see the game beyond the fence. On the other side of the poster is the same three boys, but this time the middle boy and the short boy are standing on boxes of two different sizes where they are large enough for the two to easily over the fence. No one is bringing anyone down. Not one boy is negatively affected by the others. ALL can see the game comfortably. Why is that a problem? Are you against the fact that two boys needed help to see the game?

[@justinholt2498]

​@KB Peters that box picture pretends that the boxes are manufactured out of thin air. They arent, the materials are taken from someone to build up someone else. We've seen the box analogy in practice. It's called Communism and it has led to widespread proverty and massive inequity AND inequality everywhere its ever been implemented.

[@mburns1679]

I used to pay my children for their grades. A-$20, B-$ 10 and C-$0. C meant they didn't try. This was the only way they earned money. Not through chores because everyone has to contribute to family. And I refused to be the damn maid to able bodied people. They had food, clothes and shelter and got fun stuff at birthday and Xmas. DEI represents not making an effort. It punishes the upward bound and rewards the downward bound. In life you need to know how to overcome obstacles. The reward is the overcoming. You do it once then you can do it again. Making an effort and doing you best gives you pride. Rewarding the zeros just like the heroes is a loss for everyone.

[@marlonmoncrieffe0728]

...Something to consider.

[@samuelpike1248]

That is a great point M Burns,and it is good that you are teaching your kids about hard work and earning what they have. This equity nonsense that companies have implemented(the place that I work has too),needs to stop and these companies pushing DEI need to allow for a counterpoint to be talked about. I have brought this up with my team at work a time or two,but I highly doubt that they will do anything(but yet they always tell me if you have any thoughts or concerns on something,please let us know). Have any of you experienced this where you work? I have been beyond loyal to this company now for 15 years. There was a point back in 2009 just after Obama get elected and I had an impeach Obama bumper sticker on my car that I guess someone complained about. They asked me to remove it,and I was pretty ticked about it. Still am,and I brought that up to both my HR person and my supervisor not too long ago.

[@anthonyiannone7618]

thats a great idea i think i will use that with my kids

[@troybaxter]

This. Something I was taught by my running coaches and trainers is that the most satisfying part of completing a race (5K, 10K, Half Marathon, Marathon, Ultra) is not the completion of the race, but the knowing that the journey you took to get to the finish line is what got you there in the first place. The race and the ultimate completion of said race is nothing more than a celebration of all the hard work you put in prior, and a possible stepping stone to the next mountain you want to try and climb. And just like in life, there will be people who are simply better and faster at getting to the finish line than others. Some people can complete that 5K in 15 minutes. Some in 45. Some not at all. All that matters is that they all got to the starting line in the first place. How, when, and where they finish should be determined by the individual and those around them that want to help them get faster.

[@josephalexander4183]

Equity in opportunity, NOT IN OUTCOME! There is no level playing field. Some are born dumb as hell, some are born highly intelligent. Be careful who you’re elevating into leadership roles.

[@rath6375]

Standards should be based on demonstrated and ongoing performance. No amount of supposed intelligence prevents a person from acting like an idiot and most perceived limitations can be overcome with motivation and hard work.

[@joshhoward1289]

Agreed, he should have doubled back and asked what the heck the boxes represent if we agree on people meeting qualification standards. The answer is obviously just another form of affirmative action.

[@par32]

Your plane isn’t crashing anytime soon stop buying this crap.

[@zuilok]

Thats the definition of equality. Which i am all for. Equity on the other hand is very dangerous.

[@par32]

Let me ask a question. If equality of outcome is the goal, why haven’t we seen it yet? See I believe there’s still lots of barriers, some obvious some not so obvious that are holding certain people back in certain fields. The man’s answer was that he wants to provide equal opportunity. And Vance agreed. So what’s the problem??

[@992001jeffr]

It has been disastrous. Thank you, FAA.

[@katy3115]

Amen! You go, JD! Best to happen to Ohio in a long time.

[@gmvalentine626]

He's a real asset not just to Ohio but the entire U.S. Very happy he was elected!!

[@teefrankenstein4340]

Equality should be the goal. “Equity” is taking from some people or groups, and giving to others, based on arbitrary numbers or beliefs. The only goal we should have is equality of opportunity and making sure barriers do not exist.

[@dennisthemenace8168]

Yeah they have tried it in the USSR, so everyone should be aware by now where this equity could lead. Simply put: if you take everything from everyone then no matter the opportunity differences all will remain on the same level. All poor but happy cause there is no one else better off or richer than them, well, apart from their dictator and his party members mwahaha. Same shoes, same clothes, same apartments, same cars etc. and street cleaners without education earning as much as skilled top managers etc... TOTAL EQUITY, TOTAL UTOPIA!

[@genxer74]

@@dennisthemenace8168 totally equal in their misery.

[@spetruck1]

This was a really clear explanation. You should have the job of that guy who couldn't explain it :)

[@wecanonlywish9194]

Then start with the USPS. In a point system of hiring, POC immediately receive 5 points. Then being female adds 5 points. Vets receive 5 points. And finally..the one that should stay on the books, the handicapped. POC have received ENOUGH of this EQUITY nonsense. Either you make the grade, or you go BACK, and retake the test.

[@obijuan3004]

Equity is not about taking from one group and giving to another. Equity is about access to opportunities. So if a kid cannot get into a school because they are in a wheelchair, equity would be to offer ramps into the school so the kid can have access to education.

[@Billydevito]

Merit, competence, skill, experience, track records. These words are not welcome in a WOKE culture, but are RELEVANT in air safety recruiting roles. This candidate should be thanked for his time and shown the EXIT !!

[@ngonzales3781]

Dude didn't even mention asians because the asians just do what they need to do.

[@barbarakauppi9915]

They are relevant everywhere. Corruption is a disease to any organization, and anything other than merit is corruption.

[@smoothf1]

The Senator is full of bs. For one thing the minimum standards are not being breached. The equality/equity chart is bs. The orange color is under dispute and the whole purpose of of the govt intervention in systemic racism is to even out the brown color...which is clearly not to scale. Let's put it another way. In medical terms, can you imagine if hospitals never let residents practice medicine? Because the attendees are the best of the best right? Who cares about their replacements? Every investment requires a sacrifice in the present. To say that the best pool of pilots are white males is bs. The best way to grow the pilot pool is to grow the pool of applicants. The best way to do that is by example...which is diversity hiring. Many diverse would be pilot students wouldn't think that pilot is in the list of eligible careers because they doen't see people like them in that career. That is a very powerful motive. Can you see yourself or your kids as a pro basketball player? Didn't think so. Some fixing needed there too in the reverse direction. Referring to the charts again, no matter how talented or hard-working (ie. orange color) a (unprivileged...oooh scary word) person may be, that person cannot overcome the brown advantage.

[@dalenulik5622]

Finally! An honest man, actually come's back with a yes or no, unbelieveable.

[@domjohnson2579]

HEY GENIUS! We already have the same opportunity! Everyone can go to school and apply for a job! Anything above that is called reverse discrimination!

[@Bancheis]

It's actually not reverse discrimination. It's just discrimination. To assume someone else does not have the same ability to apply themselves towards their goals based on immutable characteristics, and needs a helping hand, is simply discrimination. Are there people out there incapable of doing certain jobs? Yes. Are there people out there incapable of learning certain jobs? Still yes, but more things are within reach when people make an effort. Bad parenting is often to blame for children unable to focus or apply themselves, and that is usually due to those parents receiving bad parenting as well. Schools focus more on making people feel complacent rather than uncomfortable with their own ineptitude. "No child left behind" is to blame for most children growing up not knowing how to think critically, and their curriculum is to blame (in addition to the parents) for them growing up not understanding HOW to be an adult.

[@mtnhowie]

They don’t want equal opportunity for all, they can’t compete on that level. They demand equal outcome regardless of ability, work ethic or required standards.

[@domjohnson2579]

@@mtnhowie That's the secret they don't want you to know.

[@jb909jb]

No such thing as 'reverse discrimination' or 'reverse racism' -- it's just plain old racism and discrimination with a different label so they can claim it doesn't exist and is acceptable.

[@deanlowdon8381]

You can’t possibly believe everyone in the US has the same opportunities to succeed!? 😂

[@toddfromflorida]

ANYONE that believes its ok to treat one group of people worst or better than another just because of the color of their skin is a horrible excuse for a human and should be shunned and never allowed to hold powerful positions like this. EVER. Equality of opportunity is what we should strive towards. Giving people unearned legs up is horrific.

[@kylestewart2643]

So you want to shun democrats?

[@toddfromflorida]

@@kylestewart2643 yes. Of course. They are the only ones preaching equity these days instead of equality. There is a difference.

[@nikkijack911]

Country was built on opportunity

[@stanleyclark923]

@@kylestewart2643 You misspelled Marxists.

[@kylestewart2643]

@@stanleyclark923 yeah the democrats

[@ManiacalManiac]

As someone in aviation and seeing what is being pushed by FAA and some airlines has made me forgo flying. Especially with the close calls that seemingly are occurring more. It's only a matter of time before we have a couple major accidents due to inexperience or negligence

[@davidsellers3639]

No raceism haha

[@yuvonnstarks10]

UR CALLIN MONEY, HUNNY!

[@wecanonlywish9194]

That's what "equality" produces. Instead of abilities to function, it's the attempt to put anybody in the position of requirement, regardless of their abilities to excel..

[@Wyrnikh]

I believe you meant “equity”. A system based on equality would mean that everyone has the same training, and those best suited get the job. That what we used to do. This new equity plan pushes for the dumbing down of material or allowing for less skill or ability for certain groups to achieve the equal outcome of receiving the title “pilot” (in this case). Don’t get them confused, and don’t let people twist meanings.

[@dorothyn.7500]

@@Wyrnikh Thank you - perhaps especially for that last bit. All along, we've been letting these loons abuse the language, evidently in order to destroy even the concept of universally-understood meanings for terms. Instead of standing our ground, we then use/create other terms, in turn co-opted by these crazy-people, determined to control and destroy communications. Too many people don't seem to yet understand how essential a point this is...

[@pjpisczak4024]

Cogent, thoughtful and brilliant.

[@clintonmatthews1507]

I’m tired of hearing these grown men sound like 14 year old boys in trouble

[@douglascrawford3896]

AND ALWAYS SAYING PERSONS OF COLOR DONT GET THE POSTIONS ,WHAT A BUNCH OF BS !!!!

[@qwerty90615]

😂

[@tolstory]

It is not about equality or equity, but competence. The best qualified with skill sets that complements the work assignment needs to be the priority. No one is equal and equity is a social construct that can not be fully measured or easily evaluated.

[@extremeknucklehead3637]

States the man who has never been discriminated against in the workforce 🤦🤦‍♀🤦‍♂

[@axon130]

@@extremeknucklehead3637 But how can you be so sure that that perceived "discrimination" was caused by your race or gender and not simply on your incompetence?

[@mrz6462]

Biden Qualification Requirements: “If you check enough boxes, the content of your character is irrelevant.”

[@nio6297]

Agreed. Biden's qualifications are to be non-white and then you are a candidate.

[@reharl4953]

People like this "nominee" would turn all of society into Harrison Bergeron.

[@john-9074]

Completely agree. You only have look at South Africa to realise how dangerous the ideology of Equity really is. Dumbing down standards ruins outcomes.

[@ricknelson5493]

YEP! dumbing down standards makes for a lousy out come, just like our educational system in our country

[@asandax6]

​@@ricknelson5493 Pretty much all departments here are defunct.

[@nobodyinparticular709]

Spot on... In the years of EE or AA... Everything has started it's trip down the drain.... NOTHING that this policy has governed has flourished

[@StuartHollingsead]

You don't even have to look to South Africa. Just look at your local public shool district.

[@1stPointofPEW]

Yep my wife is SA, it has totally ruined her country and whole heartedly believes she sees that is what’s happening here in the USA. First they tore down the statues in SA then they changed the street names… kinda sounds familiar

[@steveladner4346]

Vance is using words that guy can't understand.

[@richardsenkBeachwalker]

There is no such thing as equality (including equality of opportunity)...period. Any attempt by the government to change this basic fact only makes the situation worse.

[@SebineLifeWind]

Vance is "talking white" and the ol dumb muniguh can't understand that.

[@richardsenkBeachwalker]

@@SebineLifeWind they want what others have without the ability or work to get it. Equity = envy

[@dm6187]

Das Raycissstt

[@richardsenkBeachwalker]

@@dm6187 so is extorting resources from someone else based upon race or gender.

[@shovelguggelheim8454]

One day, when the heart surgeon is hovering over you with scalpel in hand, you had better hope that he is in that position because he actually knows what he is doing and is not part of some equity program that reduced standards just to get certain people into that role. Same goes for airline pilots, the engineer that designed the bridge that you are driving over and many, many other jobs.

[@derekchance3700]

Equity programs have been around for decades and there is an overwhelming body of evidence that they do not reduce the quality of work done.

[@tinaarko6625]

Not like it is now. Wasn't done in the airline industry, or the medical industry. Relaxing standards makes everyone, including you, less safe.

[@focusthenflex]

Let’s think about you are saying together, because clearly you didn’t think before you hit ‘enter’. Presumably, the surgeon holding the scalpel should’ve been trained on any and every aspect of the surgery that they’re about to perform BEFORE they grabbed the scalpel, correct? Maybe the barrier of entry into the programs (in this case medical school) is relaxed a little bit, but they’re still going to have to do the course work, residencies, and practice before they become a doctor, correct? Same goes with the other jobs you mentioned, no? Not to mention that there are numerous stories about doctors who don’t look like their patients, literally ignoring, or not taking symptoms seriously (quick Google search of “Black women in labor, symptoms ignored” shows how common that example actually is). If you’re that opposed to preferential treatment based on race, you’re literally centuries too late. This isn’t about that, as much as it’s about righting wrongs of the past, that have generational consequences.

[@focusthenflex]

@@tinaarko6625 How was it done before? And how was it done now?

[@shovelguggelheim8454]

@@derekchance3700 Yes, but they had to significantly lower the bar to get that result.

[@SPTX.]

Just call it communism.

[@thewatcher9539]

Equity is the death of rewarding hard work, drive, ethic and perseverance... While simultaneously elevating the lazy, unethical, and entitled parasites in society... That's it 💯

[@transparentglazier]

Then wonder why the person with integrity gets promoted and not them

[@smoothf1]

Missing the whole point! Equity in opportunity. Not absolute equity. You sir are not the hardest working/most talented person in the area. Certainly not the brightest.

[@thewatcher9539]

@@smoothf1 opportunity filled by equity based on race, sex choice or gender is not only racist sexist and heterophobic its also the removal of opportunity for those who earned it based on work ethic and education, which is what equality represents... For someone named smooth one you sure aren't very slick...

[@smoothf1]

@@thewatcher9539 Not the removal of opportunity, but a slight diminishing of opportunity, ie an investment of the future. Investment in the underprivileged expands the talent pool. There are those who can't succeed no matter talent or ethic due to the system, your narrow vision can't fathom that. Nevermind the absolute removal of opportunity of your forbearers. Not your direct responsibility perse but at least something your can acknowledge. Hence the crux of the matter. People like you undervalue the role of privilege in this matter. Continue to bask in the echo chamber of your belief. I won't respond unless you have something remarkable to say.

[@freedomworks3976]

Well said 👏

[@badcatmadcat7694]

Equity: The act of rewarding the person who puts forth the least amount of effort with the most amount of benefit.

[@carlberry8365]

100% correct

[@pogo1140]

More like providing more attention and assistance and education to the student who needs it. Ex 2 people at a shooting range, 1 person hits the target 5 out of 6 to pass the course. 2nd person hits the target 3 out of 6, so the instructor stays with the student providing additional instruction, correcting the student until the student hits the target 5 out of 6 times.

[@CleverGirlAAH]

​@@pogo1140 if only that's how it was executed... I flunked high school, growing up in the worst school system in the US, all these things are are endless cycles of tests. They hope you'll random choice your way to a passing D so they can write you off as "Educated". The other flaw is that you think everyone wants to hit the target. No amount of attention can fix that.

[@awesomedavid2012]

​@@pogo1140 that's not equity. Equity states, regardless of how much you individually need help, we're going to assume based on your skin color/sex/sexual orientation that you need or don't need help. What you're describing is an equal opportunity aid to help those who NEED it. When people talk about equity, they talk about supposed need, not actual need. They will pick a rich black kid to support over a poor white kid.

[@nordicnaturenerd6328]

...and then taking that person's accomplishments and giving them to a black lesbian Marxist with negative societal value.

[@yankeetango]

I'm reminded of the phrase, "The problem with common sense is it's not very common." This equity nonsense is literally insane. Apparently, many innocent people are going to have to die needlessly in airline tragedies in the name of "woke justice."

[@donnyravas5500]

I'm afraid this is true. I'VE called all of my (supposed reps), they never call me back, MANCHIN, MOONEY and CAPITO (WV)...3 1/2 Years now, not once have they replied!3

[@smoothf1]

The Senator is full of bs. For one thing the minimum standards are not being breached. The equality/equity chart is bs. The orange color is under dispute and the whole purpose of of the govt intervention in systemic racism is to even out the brown color...which is clearly not to scale. Let's put it another way. In medical terms, can you imagine if hospitals never let residents practice medicine? Because the attendees are the best of the best right? Who cares about their replacements? Every investment requires a sacrifice in the present. To say that the best pool of pilots are white males is bs. The best way to grow the pilot pool is to grow the pool of applicants. The best way to do that is by example...which is diversity hiring. Many diverse would be pilot students wouldn't think that pilot is in the list of eligible careers because they doen't see people like them in that career. That is a very powerful motive. Can you see yourself or your kids as a pro basketball player? Didn't think so. Some fixing needed there too in the reverse direction. Referring to the charts again, no matter how talented or hard-working (ie. orange color) a (unprivileged...oooh scary word) person may be, that person cannot overcome the brown advantage.

[@karynanne9589]

I think what will happen is that people will start requesting to know the pilots rating sort of like a restaurant gets ratings

[@davidsellers3639]

Way more death than that

[@stallwarning13]

And those with the least amount of common sense think they have more, because they don't even understand how much they don't know. And you are a prime candidate for the left side of the Dunning-Krueger curve.

[@sadoldgit313]

I agree with JD! By all means have programmes that nurture those with aptitude and potential but have lacked opportunity. But NEVER lower standards to promote those who lack the merit, skills and application to achieve required competencies!

[@adcolt54]

I'm looking forward for equity in the NBA and NFL.

[@dowdyjackson5499]

Me too. Especially with team owners.

[@mariantreber8055]

No kidding. At this point, I'd support the diversity of Caucasian teams because where are they, now? They're not getting chances to play. I support more Caucasians.

[@dh1ymo977]

@@dowdyjackson5499 What's stopping them they're getting paid millions buy a team

[@tracydavis7148]

Don't those things basically have tryouts? Like people go see the entire team play and pick the best. Isn't that the kid they call a walk-on on the college teams. I don't know that much about sports lol

[@RoseRed81]

Both the NBA and the NFL use to be equal....

[@GruppeSechs]

That Equity image is the perfect representation of people getting a leg up without earning it. He basically proved that equity is horrible in one little picture. Good job, you played yourself.

[@CleverGirlAAH]

He proved he approves of commie doctrine.

[@AlfonsMofesto]

It is actually the literal exact opposite. Providing ADA accessible transit for people who are missing their legs, for example, would be an example of equity. For people who have more difficulty doing things that we as a society believe everyone should be able to do, we can provide additional support so that their results (being able to get on the bus) are equitable. People with 'a leg up' would be all the folks who can just walk on the bus. People with physical disabilities may literally be 'a leg down'.

[@GruppeSechs]

@@AlfonsMofesto Congrats on sidestepping to make an argument for the exceptions to the rule. Your logic fails though, because there's a difference between providing transportation and giving someone a job. Someone missing their legs wouldn't exactly make a good bicycle courier, would they? But if they have a job they CAN do as they are, then yes, providing easier ways for them to get transportation is a good thing. Don't be disingenuous with your rationale.

[@FierceZs1]

@@AlfonsMofesto Using the odd rare example of somebody with an actual disability is not a real argument. That's clown level stuff. It's not about race or skin color, it's about the experience and qualifications of the pilot. If you don't have the qualification to fly a multi-ton flying behemoth through the sky with hundreds of people in your care, then you don't have it. It's that simple. The second you start lowering standards is the second you start having more plane accidents.

[@nf6386]

Exactly, he explicitly said that the boxes represent “opportunity” to be given to people, and you can see the people on the right of the equity chart are given more opportunity than others, ie you actually strive to be INequitable. Height is a favourite metaphor for these charts because it’s so misleading, being a natural gift. Most success, even in countries where there are genuine inequities, comes from discipline, competence and hard work, but only the insane would insist that you should compensate the lazy and incompetent to put them on equal outcomes with the diligent and talented.

[@DeltaDanner]

We seem to have made the change overnight and that’s the most suspect part of all of this. I grew up believing in equality. That we should all be treated fairly with equal opportunities and respect for one another. It wasn’t until just a few years ago equity became the goal we’ve been striving for and now it’s about giving more to others or taking away from some based on some arbitrary race-based system.

[@theeclectic2919]

Equity is at the core and foundation of communism. Which is why communism always fails.

[@barbarakauppi9915]

Right! Centuries of relentless struggle, grueling work, and immeasurable painful sacrifice all turned on its head and undone practically overnight.

[@MrRaugerbrown]

No consultation or mandate is there? A worldwide phenomenon Do the majority of people want this? If no, why is it happening in democracies?

[@ToOpen6seven]

@@theeclectic2919 Exactly!

[@ToOpen6seven]

This equity bull crap doesn't make any sense -- I want my doctor, my pilot, my hair dresser, the the butcher and the candlestick maker to be qualified and nearly excellent at what they do!!!

[@peccatumDei]

Equality is (or should be) equality of opportunity. People however will not have the same education, motivation, experience, etc. so the labor market SHOULD be based on merit, who can do the job best. Equity as the term is currently being used, describes equality of outcome, but since people do not all have the same education, etc., equity can only be achieved by discrimination against merit.

[@billcarney829]

I had the same opportunity as every man in the USA to become a star NFL quarterback. Unfortunately, I lacked a strong throwing arm, good decision making, ability to learn the playbook, ability to read defenses, leadership skills, self-discipline and work ethic. Other than that, I had it all!

[@reasonablespeculation3893]

You just need a big box to stand on. The NFL is clearly not interested in equity. It's shameful.

[@billcarney829]

Precisely, Colin K. immediately came to mind.

[@almoparaso7170]

The NFL is in the entertainment industry. Its goal is to attract the widest audience to its genre of entertainment. To do this it (league) must have teams with a variety of characteristics which will attract certain wide segments of the viewing audience. But at the same time these teams must some semblance of winning efficiency to keep their fans happy. This translates to having athletes who will perform consistently above the norm. This requires money to outbid other franchises which are in competition for the same athletes. This bidding is based upon merit or performance excellence NOT equality or equity. End of story.

[@randybobaby86]

Then we agree it’s racism

[@reasonablespeculation3893]

@@randybobaby86 by the current meaning of the word; yes, it's definitely "racism"

[@leahdumas1929]

Good on you Forbes!

[@Piggyn]

Lowering the standards for certain groups doesn't magically fix the problem. It will result in an even bigger performance gap. The group with the higher bar will work harder while the group with the lower bar has even less motivation to work hard.

[@LoserGopher]

its not about lowering standards its about realizing individuals like a math student might need additional resources like after class tutoring to reach that standard I swear for people who read and watch Forbes y'all sure are dumb.

[@alexhoward2402]

Faxxxx doing so could end up showing a difference is in ability between ethnicities . This would create a bigger race gap. Good idea 👍

[@andrewgreeb916]

Cause lowering the testing expectations lowers the required capability of the student, reduced required capability can and will kill people in a myriad of ways depending on their profession. The lowered expectations on black students in medical fields has killed people and ruined the careers of otherwise rather capable people. Do you want to intentionally set up minorities to be killing people with their incompetence because they weren't tested hard enough?

[@LoserGopher]

@@andrewgreeb916 "The lowered expectations on black students in medical fields has killed people and ruined the careers of otherwise rather capable people." If you can provide data on that bullshit you just spouted that would be great

[@ronaldjohnson1474]

Exactly why Karl Marx said socialism would not work in reality! Most socialists never read enough of his comments.

[@giacomoburtone9706]

It's very easy to understand: if school books cost $100, and Bob's parents can afford to buy them, but Dave's parents can't, then you buy the school books for Dave, spending $100 on Dave and $0 on Bob, so they both have the tools to be equal and have equal opportunity in life. However, if the exam requires an A to pass, both Bob and Dave need an A to pass-Dave doesn't get a discount on that.

[@davidjones-wr3pg]

How the hell he maintains his calm and refrains from just blurting out the bottom line is beyond me. Equality of opportunity good, equality of outcome horrible.

[@stallwarning13]

Exactly, Equity is good. I don't know why all these people can't see that equity is the equality of opportunity.

[@davidjones-wr3pg]

@@stallwarning13 you have it exactly backwards - unless you were being sarcastic. Equity = equality of outcome, not opportunity.

[@stallwarning13]

@@davidjones-wr3pg you don't understand equity. You only know what you're echo chamber tells you. Please think for yourself and learn to understand the real concepts.

[@davidjones-wr3pg]

@@stallwarning13 Is it your goal to hide behind muddling and confusing definitions? Is this because people like Dr. Peterson have laid the topic bare, and there is nowhere else to hide?

[@KernowFay]

Because it's not. @@stallwarning13

[@maria.whiddon]

KH and KJP are two examples of what goes wrong when you choose someone for everything but ability.

[@calvinjohnstone2664]

Don't exclude the luggage thief.

[@ms55938]

@@calvinjohnstone2664 Or the transvestite who dresses up like Little Bo Peep that Biden nominated for Dept of Health position

[@kevinm5713]

Don't forget the big guy.

[@maria.whiddon]

@Kevin M he wasn't chosen because of his race, gender etc so your comment doesn't fit the statement. And yes, fjb.

[@nb2008nc]

Don't forget the Transportation Secretary

[@jhb1493]

I had a series of interviews at Lulu Lemon for a senior IT technical role. Third meeting was with two women in their 20's (I'm 50) who started out with their pronouns, insisted on knowing mine (I don't use them), and then proceeded to lecture me about how D-E-I is "central" to the company. Which is odd, because I thought their business retailed overpriced clothes. This lunacy is running amok.

[@theedon501]

You don’t use pronouns? What does that mean?

[@johneary8874]

@@theedon501 Most likely he means that he uses them correctly rather than to construct a false reality.

[@goldbrick2563]

What is DEI?

[@henrlima87]

​@@goldbrick2563 diversity equality inclusion, if im not mistaken

[@goldbrick2563]

@@henrlima87 thanks

[@gerreappleton9585]

Equity = Communism Equality = Democracy

[@orionzervakos]

I just got done reading CS Lewis' Screwtape Letters and he called this nonsense out in an extremely visionary way half a century before it happened. Very challenging read.

[@jimmyhughes7754]

I miss hearing from Wormwood

[@themonsterunderyourbed9408]

You know why he called this? Because he was a devout Christian. You know where Christian's get their way of life? The Bible. The Bible called this 2000 years ago.

[@enrique967]

Which letter was this in?

[@orionzervakos]

@@enrique967 it was in a portion at the end called Screwtape Proposes a Toast. It reads kinda like a commencement address at a demonic tempter university

[@enrique967]

@@orionzervakos Thanks! Between Schaefer and Lewis we have all been given a heads up.

[@crizzo9104]

If I have to get brain surgery I don't care about qualifications I just want the most diverse surgery team.

[@ivanbluetarski9071]

i have a few hamsters you could have on your medical team or perhaps a donkey ?🤣

[@CrawfishCuban]

I wonder how diverse the doctors doing bidens brain surgery were?

[@wnchstrman]

Exactly right. You dont need your brain as much as you need your surgeon to be a lesbian black trans woman from Ukraine with an emotional support animal and green hair.

[@silent1967]

You'll get a trans, dog mask wearing duck.

[@richardpatrick2852]

Thank you for the sarcasm!

[@dilligafmofoker]

The Baltimore school system is full of equity. Everyone gets passing grades wether they actually pass any tests or even show up. This goes on nationwide. The results are millions of ignorant young adults not prepared to meet bare minimum standards. These people are getting preferential treatment for jobs, promotions…Can you imagine a 3.5 - 4.0 student getting passed over for a job in favor of one these equity dolts because they’re the preferred victim group? It happens everyday.

[@joeyalfano4781]

That is how the Joe Bidens of the world move up.

[@mikeroessm5325]

Baltimore H.S. grads aren't even prepared to be able to work at a 7-11, much less anything else.

[@Pasan34]

@@joeyalfano4781 This is actually true. Political parties aside, you are telling me that Biden and George Bush (both career politicians or with heavy family connections) were the absolute best the USA had to offer to lead the country out of like 300 million people? And that's why each party nominated / selected them to run in the election?

[@stephenfiler7564]

@@mikeroessm5325 do you live in the area? If not what are you basing your statement off of?

[@___The_Paradox]

Equity awards those who dont work, equality leaves it to fate and one's own abilities

[@gorflunk]

Equity means that no matter what you bring to the table, no matter how hard you work, no matter your successes, you will never be allowed to advance more than the person that brings nothing to the table, doesn't work any harder than necessary, or has no successes. Actually, you will be penalized and therefore discredited in order to keep you at the same level as the other person. Let that sink in.

[@sharonj7945]

Equality and equity would be all of the figures standing on the ground. He even said “starting on a level playing field.”So no boxes, everybody stands on the ground. We are not fooled by their word sorcery. They don’t even understand it

[@SupHapCak]

I suppose he thinks the start is when they leave to find a job, but it isn’t. The start we have in life comes directly from our parents and what values they instill in us with a bit of our own brain juice. The best start is a 2 parent household where they don’t get divorced and they don’t move around a lot. It’s been scientifically proven. The government intentionally is destroying the family unit and even people being married without children to force them to all be on the same field from birth.

[@carlschmidt.8314]

all you have to do is look what inserting color over experience has done to every aspect of our lives these past couple years.

[@sigsauer7929]

Couple of years? I was in the military over 40 years ago, and I was passed over for promotion because of affirmative action.

[@troystewart7730]

You talk the last couple Let’s educate your ignorant arse As of 1963 in USA it was written law you could legally fit an employee for no other reason than they were black. That’s law You talk be ignorant white man trash. Get that 8th grade ged Please

[@troystewart7730]

@@sigsauer7929 Yeah the victim And the girl you asked to prom said no- because you only asked out of kindness You got passed over on merit. Money if you were black and it was 1963 in MERICA- you could legally be fired just for being black Let’s just agree your fat white arse was lucky mommy daddy we’re fat white arses- which put you far ahead of anyone of color. Get better or get beat

[@sigsauer7929]

@@troystewart7730Just the opposite, I believe in meritocracy, I'm successful because I never embraced being a victim, I moved on from the military because they were racist, I kept running into the same affirmative action BS my entire life, once for a firefighter exam, and once as a police officer, also there were no scholarships available for my specific race and skin color. I never let any of that keep me down, because I’ve always believed the U.S. is the best country on earth, partly because it gives everyone the opportunity to be successful if they are willing to work hard, but it doesn’t owe anyone a living. I pointed this out because I believe being a victim doesn’t help anyone out, and that is what the new version of affirmative action does, it makes victims, and now you need to feel guilty about it, which is what you tried to do to me. News flash for you, I’m not unique, I’ve met thousands of working-class people that have all worked hard for what they had without complaint. Also, you can be fired for any reason in corporate America, unless you work for the government or you are part of a union. And both my parents are dead which is why I went into the military and I’ve never been fat or lazy. But I suspect you both and riddled with guilt for atrocities done hundreds of years ago by people that look like you.

[@troystewart7730]

@@sigsauer7929 NO You are where you are in America today because you are white- more important your ancestors were white. So they were that group of people you speak of- but they held all the power since 1750 and they wrote laws to allow them to keep power. Did your grandparents have their land taken for a new Highway? Leaving them with nothing? What about your parents? I’m assuming there’s a family tree not a stick- so that’s 2 entirely new people and did they get fired for being white? Let’s say your daddy ran a business. Why did HE need the law saying he could fire a guy for being black? Is that or is that not a racist law? So they also lost everything? At least they were banged by their owner and then forced to north his kid. If our military is racist- tell me 1 law to back up your diarrhea crap Affirmative action isn’t BS It IS the result of your ancestors racists laws that allowed them to keep all power. To me- that’s poocey I’d stand to you face to face and say it. Your poucey parents were racists and that’s why you are what you are If you think I am wrong then tell me how you’d be where you are right now if you had been born in Sierra Leon- the poorest place on planet Earth. You’d get from a black baby in a war town country to here today? No And sorry dick, you actually aren’t responsible for any of your success’ Name 1 thing you did. Because I’m ready to tell you others had to be a part. Nothing happens alone. And GOD- until you name a real law that stopped you- you are just a whiny beech. Again get educated and tell me a law holding you back. Tell me why your family needing racist laws just back in 1963 that made a white human superior? Are you superior to anyone else? What rights did you have taken away? Ever? Anyone in your ancestry. Name one law

[@DelusionThread]

Whenever I hear "equity" coming from anyone in government I realize it's not the 'best person for the job' but simply quotas. Intentions might be noble, yet intentions don't get the job done.

[@dark3031]

Noble intentions often result in bad consequences. Like who knows subsidizing single motherhood would increase single mothers? Subsidizing unemployed black people will increase unemployed black?

[@Stopcolonizinglebanon]

The intentions are NEVER noble. Making you believe it is part of the grift.

[@guyforlogos]

Intentions are not noble when they ignore basic facts.

[@extremeknucklehead3637]

Have you noticed that when you have your meetings it appears that you all have diverse views It's only when the meeting is over and you all take off your white hoods that you realize you're all infected with the same despicable virus

[@tdubz87]

​@@dark3031 What do you have against black people? Do you always need a boogie man to be scared of

[@SenorCrazylegs]

Pilot here. The real kicker with aviation, as with other specialist industries, isn't that the candidate hasn't met the standards. It's that they meet the MINIMUM standards, and those standards are not particularly high. "Diversity" is an arbitrary standard, and is based solely on immutable characteristics. Only making DEI illegal will solve the crisis in competence.

[@samueladams3746]

“Last week I was slinging bags, this week I’m a pilot! Ain’t equity great!”

[@Mitzoplick]

What I always find troubling about that particular graphic... is who makes the boxes? At some point it becomes the responsibility of someone to prop up others in that scenario. Is the person able to make their own box also responsible for making several boxes for someone else? At what point does equity require shortening the legs of the tallest person because the shortest can not be propped up any higher? It is also an idea based highly in abstraction, requiring micromanagement at the individual level ( which is the level we all operate in on a daily basis). The equality of opportunity model is much more scalable and manageable without needing detailed individual adjustment. I do not consider it to be the job of society to balance the cosmic scales. All society can do is provide opportunities equally to it's citizens that a person living completely alone will not have.

[@daveslem4203]

Back in the late 90's early 2000's the FAA was caught up in a corruption allegation. The FAA Black Caucus approached the FAA Director of Training and worked out a deal giving the cacus access to screening questions and prefential hiring for black minorities. Standards of training were also relaxed nationwide. Dont know what ever happened to the case. Cant imagine it had a good impact on aviation safety.🇺🇸

[@smoothf1]

My interpretation of the graphic is that it is all wrong. The graphic on the left has the brown color completely off scale. The "stepping stones" should be much much much more higher...to the point where the orange (talent/effort) cannot compensate. On the right, govt intervention just tries to level out the brown. Ideally, the brown is leveled and only the orange matters. The argument is the brown. One side says it's the same level (because they can't imagine all their hard work and talent is unaffected by privilege), the other side says that if you were to transplant your brain to a child in India to typical Indian parents (for example) to a slum in India they would end up as successful as they are now. Hmmm...I don't think so.

[@haroldhead7555]

The biggest flaw of "equity" is that it leaves out personal responsibility. 10% of life is made up by what happens to you, things beyond our control. 90% of life is decided by HOW WE REACT. CHOICE.

[@Wujek_Dobra_Rada]

This graphic is incorrect because it suggests that the government is leveling the playing field with money obtained out of thin air, and is even giving away benefits dedicated to millionaires. In fact, in the second picture, the guy in the first position should be in the hole - because he is funding the equity of the others: with nothing from it.

[@staphenW77]

..... Aye that's a good point though

[@JusTTheWayiam-q9h]

Everybody should be resisting equity with any means necessary.

[@alexw7795]

This is how we got into our current situation

[@OneWildTurkey]

LBJ led the way.

[@richardpatrick2852]

Look at all these "equity" nominees paraded into Congress every day by BidenInc. Woefully unqualified, but the correct color, sexuality, etc,etc. Hello Sam Brinson! Hi Richard Levine!

[@texasnewt]

More fruit from the poisonous LBJ Tree of "The Great Society."

[@SS-uc9zd]

Yes!!! Very good VP Vance!

[@chrispattee77]

Equity puts amateurs in positions that are a danger to themselves and the rest of us.

[@gazinta]

Like Congress?

[@docej3025]

YOUR STATEMENT IS A LIE DUE TO ITS HYPER GENERALIZATION!

[@douglawrence188]

Trump

[@brehella770]

@Doug Lawrence Trump definitely didn’t become president because of an attempt by society to create equity. However, he definitely was a political amateur in comparison to most other presidents we’ve seen. As for whether he was a danger to himself or others, I’d say sure, but so long as he isn’t killing American citizens and seems loony enough that foreign powers don’t want to make any moves against us, whatever works works.

[@mcrgames2666]

It seems like Mr. Vance in the video and much of this comment section are strawmannirg the issue of equity vs. equality. No one that advocates for equity is looking for homogeneity in outcomes nor lowering qualifications to have important jobs like surgeons and pilots. It is more about creating an equal playing field of opportunity and combatting generational issues that have barred certain groups from advancing in our economy. People point towards vertical movement as a shining light in the American economy, but it is sad that certain groups are unable to participate in this movement due to issues that cannot be fixed by just giving them equal rights under law. For example, under law, black people and white people have the same equal rights. Unfortunately, many black people and white people do not have an equal playing field when it comes to opportunities and freedoms. I am white, I am from the Deep South, and I attend Ole Miss, one of the most southern schools out there. I have been to the Mississippi Delta and have witnessed the widespread poverty and lack of opportunity that our idea of equality facilitates. We need equity so that people from these communities who have endured slavery, sharecropping, Jim Crow, and generational poverty can have the same opportunities as rich families from Jackson, Mississippi who enjoy generational wealth. Besides just the Mississippi Delta, the phenomenon of generational poverty within the black community is widespread among the South. Take a look at Section 8 housing. All equity is doing is realizing the fact that people groups and communities weren't and still aren't given the same tools as everyone else and aims to provide these tools. There's a saying: when privilege meets equality, it feels like oppression, and all equity is doing is making sure the privilege that I have and many have can be enjoyed by all, but to many, it feels as if they're facing prejudice and injustice when that just isn't true.

[@b.b.4411]

Marxism 101

[@JediMasterYoda66]

Anything I don't like = Communism, Socialism, Marxism

[@ivanbluetarski9071]

@@JediMasterYoda66 you should take the time to read some of karl marx claptrap, in its raw state it shows how ridiculous that moocher was . man of the working people 🤣🤣🤣🤣 that grifter never done a days work in his life a bit like bernie sanders really 🤣🤣🤣

[@ajwold9958]

Finally someone else gets it!

[@ajwold9958]

@@JediMasterYoda66 so you don’t see the picture showing equal outcome over equal opportunity? Do you know what Marxism is?

[@yama4ever]

If you aim for equity, you can't just pick and choose. 'We want more women leaders, CEO's, high paying jobs, etc". If you aim for equity, we would also want more woman bricklayers, car mechanics, oil rig workers. Goodluck forcing people's interest without taking their skill in account. *for this example I use women, but this can be applied to any gender/trait/colour*

[@wnchstrman]

Libs have no use for logic. Their brains are mashed potatoes like their Potatus.

[@metalmamasue3680]

I'm a woman and I couldn't agree more. If we don't have a merit based society that promotes equal opportunity over equity, we won't have a functioning society. As the current regime likes to say, they have the most diverse administration ever. It's also the least functional and most dangerous. That's what happens when you hire people based on their looks, lifestyle choices, or beliefs rather than competency.

[@adstanrashaw9279]

Very good tone of engagement for a change.