Force RC HammerJaw: $130 for a 2.2 Crawler? Is it worth it?

[@taylordaft7701]

Do a review on the ridgerock Danchee

[@BudgetRC_Channel]

Send me one and I'll get right on it!

[@darrenfoy-m7h]

It's the same as the FTX Mauler. They have some serious flaws out of the box. But thanks to that chassis they make a great platform for a modified custom build.

[@maxdeniel]

I think there are lots of companies that share the same design, I've seen the FTX Mauler (that is sell on the UK mostly) and of course, the Rock Hammer that I own, not to mention that there are even cheaper versions of this model by WPL and even one that you can get from Walmart for 50 dlls, the Rock Runner... However, as you mention on your video I'm having a hard time trying to get some replacement parts, I have found several UK websites for the FTX Mauler but most of the spare parts and upgrade parts are out of stock. In the case of the Axles, I think that the ones from 1/10 SCX10 fits on all those models (HammerJaw, RockHammer, FTXMauler)...

[@BudgetRC_Channel]

Wraith/Bomber axles will fit. SCX10 axles will be too narrow.

[@maxdeniel]

@@BudgetRC_Channel yes, you are right, I just chec my Rock Hammer, and at both sides of the axles ends, there are a kind of long hex that pushes the wheel out of the vehicle making it wider.

[@islandrc-duke1972]

Great review brother

[@BudgetRC_Channel]

Thanks!

[@islandrc-duke1972]

Sent you a sub brother

[@AdventureTimeRC]

Great overview love budget crawler s😀✌🏻😁😎

[@BudgetRC_Channel]

Thanks!

[@Stathis10]

it is the same as an FTX Mauler so you can get parts

[@BudgetRC_Channel]

It's very similar to the FTX Mauler, and also the RGT Rock Hammer, but neither of those have stellar parts availability in the US. What parts are available have to come from China. But, at least there are some parts!

[@tonya9614]

Thank you sir!

[@stephenpwilson1930]

This truck is exactly the same as my FTX Mauler, except for the body panels. I've had mine over a year now with no problems to the truck but I changed out all the electrics as soon as I got it. thanks for your video. Steve UK.

[@amw4736]

Can you point me to replacement parts? can you get them in the U.K.? also does your version have the dog bones on the front or CVDs? I've read that you can break the dog bones with the added weight on the tires etc.? any hlep you can provide is greatly appreciated.

[@1BARBAS]

Is this similar two ftx? Cumps

[@BudgetRC_Channel]

This truck is almost identical to the FTX Mauler and the RGT Rock Hammer.

[@Basherqueen]

Very good presentation and you know alot About the manufacturer/Brands and the stuff. Well done. When I am back in the states and if These are still available, I go for one. Thanks for this Video!

[@BudgetRC_Channel]

Thanks!

[@1BARBAS]

Which one do you recommend?

[@BudgetRC_Channel]

Between the FTX or the RGT? They're the same thing. Pick whichever you like

[@1BARBAS]

@@BudgetRC_Channel many tks, I thought that they have different things..

[@BMWRLF]

Nice vid! Thank you for this. I have to say, this is probably the best RC channel in KZbin. At least for me. All of your vids are interesting to watch and nicely made.

[@BMWRLF]

Btw, I noticed (when was ordering spare parts for my ftx from china) that sometimes HSP, ECX, FTX, VRX and Reely share the same parts. You just have to be careful when ordering them and check em properly from manuals, but that can save you some money too.

[@BudgetRC_Channel]

Thanks man!

[@BudgetRC_Channel]

You're absolutely right about some of those other parts fitting. HSP makes RCs for a LOT of other brands.

[@antrc]

We have the FTX versions here in the UK - called the Mauler. Not sure if this a rebranding or a copy version, but the FTX one is capable enough barring the turning circle once you've softened the shocks a bit.

[@BudgetRC_Channel]

They're all rebranded HSPs with minor differences.

[@bobzilla9p0]

Force RC has a different axles setup from the original FTX Mauler which used an HSP 1/10 scale clone of the Axial SCX10 axle plus wheel hex extenders to get the wider stance. The Force RC Hammerjaw axles are designed wider. The Mauler may get the updated axles as I think Tower Hobbies exclusive on this design seems to becoming to an end (based on the fact that I see other Ebay distributers selling them now). Both use the same locker and can be upgraded using HSP part 180009 all metal locker.

[@antrc]

@@bobzilla9p0 ahhh interesting! I thought the axles looked familiar. If it would take a set of scx10 shafts id be tempted to ditch the extenders and put 1.9s on it. Help with turning radius.

[@bobzilla9p0]

@@antrc These are new wider axle housings. There are no "wheel extenders" so aftermarket axle shafts for SXC10s do not work. I have been toying with 2 sets of cheap Wraith CVDs and using the long sides to cut down and grind a flat tang to match the length of the stock Hammerjaw axle shafts. I haven't gotten back to that project to see how the CVD cup would fit into the Hammer jaw C-hub and knuckle. Wraith/Bomber c-hubs and knuckles might be another option. For converting to 1.9 rig you could just do like I did and source aftermarket 1.9 axles of your choice. The new Redcat Gen8 portal axle kit for $90-$100 for both front and rear is attractive, or a set of SCX10.2 all aluminum ones off Ebay for excellent turning radius.

[@antrc]

@@bobzilla9p0 i hear ya. If the gen8 ones finally land in uk i may go that route. Food for thought.

[@smithaviation]

Hey budget I ended up buying one of these after watching your video and doing some investigating I have to tell you it is the best $130 I have ever spent. I have driven mind and the stock configuration for about 5 miles now of trail riding and rock crawling and I have to say it is holding up I haven't stripped any gears but I do not abuse it either I have all metal gears on standby so when things start going South with the gears I can start replacing them. Also I figured out for the dog bones you can use the redcat gen7 dog bones they fit perfect. Like I said mine runs great I had been using yet and some trail riding with a lot of mud and also climbing rocks I have no problem in the stock configuration hopefully you are having the same luck.

[@BudgetRC_Channel]

How can the Gen7 dogbones fit? These axles are much wider.

[@smithaviation]

@@BudgetRC_Channel well I have them but I haven't taken them out of the package they look like they fit I guess I will find out when I install the metal gears in the front differential.

[@BudgetRC_Channel]

@@smithaviation I pulled out my Gen7 axles and compared them. They're a lot narrower.

[@smithaviation]

@@BudgetRC_Channel Well crap..... Back to the drawing board. I heard that you can cut down the axial racing cvds and they would work other than that do you have any other ideas?

[@BudgetRC_Channel]

@@smithaviation I have a couple sets of Wraith CVDs that I want to try that with, but they're too skinny to work with the HSP lockers, so I need to convert to an Axial locker first

[@bobzilla9p0]

You can use HSP part 180009 for an all metal locker in these axle diffs. For $130 plus about $180 in the upgrades listed below you have good start at a Bomber alternative that will have all metal axles, steel drive shafts and better shocks. I ended up buying a set of AR60 (Axial Wraith) style aluminum complete axle assemblies on Ebay made by Xtra Speed (Front #XS-AW-1XS Rear #XS-AW-1XS) This is not a budget minded option. Due to the Off Center Pumpkin/Differential you will need to flip the transmission skid plate around to the other side for drive shaft alignment. You will also need different shocks as the mounts on these axles are the industry standard narrow size. I got a set of 4 blue 90mm dual spring shocks for $24 shipped on Amazon with faux resevoirs (for looks). It also needed longer drive shafts so I ordered steel 122-151mm CVD drive shafts($23 Amazon) Again, all of this starts to add up in total price. The truck has 2.2 aluminum wheels and brass beef patties wheel weights (the new axles don't seem to break with these heavy weights on like the stock did). I also bought a 20kg $20 servo from Amazon. I have decided that over time I am going to slowly convert this into a Ultra 4 style rig. I have an all aluminum Wraith style 2 speed transmission (got for my bday). I love the truck and I going to run the body until it falls apart then convert to a rock bouncer metal cage body (which will likely require a wraith center skid plate). I normally run 1.9 1/10 trail trucks with my friends but when I go alone I like to keep a faster pace on the mountain so this truck is being built to accomodate that. The bigger 2.2 wheels, wider stance, more ground clearance, and lower gearing with faster motor all help this cover rocky rough ground faster than a 1.9 rig. I also make my own 2 stage foams using 1/2 inch thick EVA foam mats (Walmart or Harbor Freight are cheapest) and 1 inch thick open cell foam from a craft store. I had High hopes for the stock Hammerjaw axles as they are a HSP part so I wanted them to end up in a lot of different trucks (Red Cat uses them in the Camo TT and X4 rears) thus leading to more aluminum and steel upgrades but it didn't happen. So I Went with the AR60 Wraith axles as I am sure I'll be able to get parts for a long time. I am really tough on my rigs and need spares ( I give 6-10 hours a week of mountain trail abuse to the hobby). I believe that cheaper alternative of using 2 sets of cheap Wraith CVDs will work. I hope this helps.

[@BudgetRC_Channel]

I ordered the HSP lockers and a couple sets of Wraith CV axles a couple days ago. If I strip the trans gears I'll probably get an all metal SCX10 trans with slipper. Beyond that I'm hoping not to spend more money, though I know it's going to need wheels, tires and foams too.

[@amw4736]

Bobzilla, I have a hammerjaw still in the box. can you tell me what parts i need to upgrade to make this a good long term crawler. I'm not hard on my stuff i just want it to work and not break. I will get the metal lockers, my question is where can I get the metal transmission gears and the 2 longer wraith cvds? did these work out for you cut down? can you send me links to everything I will need to change out to make this a decent and reliable crawler? Thank you!

[@pauls1816]

Could you check out the rgt ex86100

[@calebunderwood2833]

I bought one for 129 broke front axle second time I used it the axles bottom out in the cups and pretty much cuts the axle other than that it is a strong RC can't wait to see what you do about the axles on a budget love your Channel

[@BudgetRC_Channel]

thanks man!

[@BudgetRC_Channel]

One thing I did discover is that the steering dual-rate was turned all the way up on the controller, which allowed the servo to turn the steering far enough for the dogbones to bind. I dialed the d/r back to around 80% and now the dogbones don't bind. The Gen7s are coming with too much steering on the controller and they're breaking axles & housings like crazy too. If you allow the axles to bind, stuff breaks.

[@calebunderwood2833]

@@BudgetRC_Channel thanks I'm new the Hobby but I really enjoy it and I think I'm going to be in the hobby for a long time thanks for the information

[@kaylariffic6611]

How did you get so many fans

[@BudgetRC_Channel]

Bribes and coercion mostly.

[@sophie28ize]

I think it's definitely worth it.. I just bought a DANCHEE Ridgerock 2.2"1/10th 4wd 4ws Rock Crawler on Ebay for $95 dollars and free shipping. From the US. RC Warehouse. It's very similar to that. But 4 wheel steering and the radio is good too. The radio has many steering mode combinations. Front wheels only, Rear wheels only, Crab, Etc. It has two motors on each axle and two full size servos also. Fully proportional. The tires are rock hard but it has plastic bead lock wheels. I think it would be great for your channel. Try to check it out.

[@stpbasss3773]

The danchee is very cool and another example of a great priced RC.

[@garyreinke4741]

I WANT ONE

[@habib1971]

I can’t find them anywhere do you know if there still available??

[@BudgetRC_Channel]

Once Horizon liquidated their supply, they were gone. The RGT Rock Hammer is still available on Ebay though.

[@habib1971]

Thanks for the help was just looking on eBay it’s back to 200 sadly

[@Funcentric]

I guess life happened, but where'd you go?

[@BudgetRC_Channel]

A couple years ago I pivoted back to another hobby (repairing guitars) and have stayed busy with it since. I keep meaning to get back to the RC vids, but life seems to be moving too quickly to fit it in now

[@Ziggy8750]

Has anyone cut the tires?

[@shadowx5648]

I got one and i think it has a lot of potential. Just replace a few parts and its gonna be a super competitive 2.2

[@BudgetRC_Channel]

This truck is surprisingly capable. A friend and I took it out with our Bombers and until I stripped one of the plastic lockers, it was every bit as capable.

[@calebunderwood2833]

Still waiting on the budget upgrade videos love your channel thanks

[@BudgetRC_Channel]

It might be a while. I'm swamped with kid's sports right now.

[@KibsRC]

Thanks man, it looks good. 👍😃👍 Have a good weekend. 👍😃👍

[@BudgetRC_Channel]

Thanks, you too!

[@kravenkrawlhobby5438]

Thanks bro, been looking at it just to put in the collection. Swap out the axels so I think it would be alright

[@rileykairc]

i have an ftx mauler its the same looks the same to just a different name i put scx10 full cnc axles on it they fit just need to do small alltertions to make them fit

[@jahmenrcbuildingasone4254]

Careful with those axles alot of folk have snapped the front axle clean. Just be aware brother. However the RGT version is built a little better nothing wrong with this one with upgrades.✌✌👍👍

[@BudgetRC_Channel]

The axles are definitely something that I expect to have to address. Hopefully there's an affordable solution that doesn't require swapping in a whole AR60!

[@rcmindset2876]

If nothing else, finding 3D prints to attach aftermarket axels can keep this going!

[@BudgetRC_Channel]

You wouldn't even need to print anything. Most solid axles use the same type of link mounts to attach the suspension. AR60s should be a direct bolt-in.

[@1819derrick]

Bought one of these when hsp was still selling them was called the rock hammer. It is a fun rig for sure. Looking forward to your videos to see what you think of it

[@BudgetRC_Channel]

I had my eye on the Rock Hammer. That truck had a separate receiver & Hobbywing ESC, but had the older style axle housings. Aside from that, they appear to be the exact same truck.

[@1819derrick]

Budget RC that you are correct separate esc and receiver. yes the axles are not as nice as this one now but all the parts I’ve had to replace where still gen7 and Everest 10 parts and it’s handled everything I could toss at it with ease.

[@BudgetRC_Channel]

@@1819derrick are the Rock Hammer axles wider than the Gen7 axles?

[@1819derrick]

Budget RC yes they are wider by I’d say at least 1/2”

[@BudgetRC_Channel]

@@1819derrick It's the same thing with the Hammerjaw. The axles are bigger and seemingly more robust than the E10/Gen7 housings, but... the Gen7 CV axles won't fit.

[@STEVOD313]

I almost bought this one when it first came out,but they only sold in stores n not online, looks good for $130

[@sudsrc8261]

Awesome. I've been eyeing this one ever since it was announced. But I currently have a Redcat Everest 10 and I can tell you it's almost the same thing. From my understanding though, this out of the box is much faster than my E10. Kinda rock racer type. Anyways, any running videos you do or upgrades like those lockers or transmission swap outs would you please video? I'd be curious to see. Also to anybody looking for replacement parts. This vehicle is also the same as the FTX - Mauler or HSP - Rockhammer / RGT - Rockhammer. So you can search parts for those models also if you're looking for parts. Thanks for the video. Keep up the good work.

[@BudgetRC_Channel]

Thanks! I'll definitely be doing more videos for the truck. I wouldn't consider this to be a fast truck at all, but it's not as ridiculously slow as the E10. This truck can move at a brisk walking pace, so it's way too slow for a U4 type event. It's about the same speed as a stock SCX10.

[@sudsrc8261]

@@BudgetRC_Channel Cool. I would say my E10 was about 5 ish MPH stock. I swapped out that motor with an Axial 26 turn and I like it. Probably 10 ish MPH as a guess. Anyways, that thing has been one of my best RCs. Pretty durable despite plastic gears. I always recommend it. That being said, this is similar and I think it looks better. I like the body and driver figures etc so I would think this would be a fun pickup for anybody with options to upgrade if they wanted to.

[@philthyco1]

Looks good to me

[@philthyco1]

Yup..And Himoto was the OEM on the Force RC 1/10 scale rigs and FS Racing is the OEM on their 1/8 scale rigs.

[@RCModSquad]

Thanks. Great review.

[@HoneyLouLou]

Thanks for your Review!!! Sounds pretty awesome I’m concerned about the dog bones too. 🤔😬😁looks like me and My Sweetheart might be getting one... if we do it sounds like we better soon!! Thanks 🎉🎉🎉

[@BudgetRC_Channel]

yeah, I can't really imagine them lasting long at this price. I'm determined to find some sort of affordable upgrade for the front axle. One way or another I'll get it done!

[@HoneyLouLou]

I’ll be watching too😁🙌🎉

[@rcmindset2876]

Ordered one a few minutes ago. Do more videos!

[@BudgetRC_Channel]

I definitely plan to!

[@XtopherMartin]

What kind of parts support in 2 years though? Will the HSP parts still be out there?

[@BudgetRC_Channel]

HSP has been around for years. This vehicle uses a lot of parts that some popular trucks share, so there should be good support. But, even if there isn't, this type of platform is simple enough that you can retro similar parts from other models. I'm willing to bet that Axial AR60 parts can be made to work in these axles.

[@johnroddy931]

I have one and I think it’s awesome I got all the big names but I like this just as much

[@operation11charlieinc]

Looks good brother

[@ka4172]

Discontinued

[@BudgetRC_Channel]

Yes. That's why it was $130.

[@stpbasss3773]

I've been interested in this for a while since I wanted a wraith style rig and don't want to pay axial's insane prices for their plastic RCs. I love axial but they really got the RC community over a barrel with their pricing, they have some of the highest prices in the crawler scene and give you the most plastic of any brand kinda bs if you ask me but they are cool and have tons of upgrades. Just wish they would listen to the community a little more they never respond to anything on any social media unlike redcat and Traxxas and most horizon companies, like redcat released the gen8 pack for 199$ and people said it was a little too expensive and redcat responds by lowering the price to 169$ and they always answer questions same with Traxxas and losi it's something I've yet to see with stubborn Axial.

[@bobzilla9p0]

For $130 plus about $180 in the upgrades listed below you have good start at a Bomber alternative that will have all metal axles, drive shafts and better shocks. I ended up buying a set of AR60 (Axial Wraith) style aluminum complete axle assemblies on Ebay made by Xtra Speed (Front #XS-AW-1XS Rear #XS-AW-1XS) This is not a budget minded option. Due to the Off Center Pumpkin/Differential you will need to flip the transmission skid plate around to the other side for drive shaft alignment. You will also need different shocks as the mounts on these axles are the industry standard narrow size. I got a set of 4 blue 90mm dual spring shocks for $24 shipped on Amazon with faux resevoirs (for looks). It also needed longer drive shafts so I ordered steel 122-151mm CVD drive shafts($23 Amazon) Again, all of this starts to add up in total price. The truck has 2.2 aluminum wheels and brass beef patties wheel weights (the new axles don't seem to break with these heavy weights on like the stock did). I also bought a 20kg $20 servo from Amazon. I have decided that over time I am going to slowly convert this into a Ultra 4 style rig. I have an all aluminum Wraith style 2 speed transmission (got for my bday). I love the truck and I going to run the body until it falls apart then convert to a rock bouncer metal cage body (which will likely require a wraith center skid plate). I normally run 1.9 1/10 trail trucks with my friends but when I go alone I like to keep a faster pace on the mountain so this truck is being built to accomodate that. The bigger 2.2 wheels, wider stance, more ground clearance, and lower gearing with faster motor all help this cover rocky rough ground faster than a 1.9 rig. I also make my own 2 stage foams using 1/2 inch thick EVA foam mats (Walmart or Harbor Freight are cheapest) and 1 inch thick open cell foam from a craft store. I had High hopes for the stock Hammerjaw axles as they are a HSP part so I wanted them to end up in a lot of different trucks (Red Cat uses them in the Camo TT and X4 rears) thus leading to more aluminum and steel upgrades but it didn't happen. So I Went with the AR60 Wraith axles as I am sure I'll be able to get parts for a long time. I am really tough on my rigs and need spares ( I give 6-10 hours a week of mountain trail abuse to the hobby). I believe that cheaper alternative of using 2 sets of cheap Wraith CVDs will work. I hope this helps.

[@rc4you891]

great video i sub and hit the bell man i love this truck i got it for my wife and like to run it with my bomber they do very well together i have the run video on my channel thanks man

[@BudgetRC_Channel]

Awesome! I'm looking forward to running this with my Bomber too!

[@tuner7232]

Liked and you got a sub from me thanks!!!

[@Daddy_and_Bo]

Hi bro please add link of the wraith cvd axles? thanks bro.

[@BudgetRC_Channel]

They were just an ebay purchase for no name Wraith axles.

[@Daddy_and_Bo]

Budget RC okay thanks bro