I've Played 100 Hours of Path of Exile 2 (Review)

I've now spent over 100 hours playing Path of Exile 2. There's still plenty more to see and the game is missing about half it's content... and yet, it's already absolutely amazing. Massive W.

[@NokturnalMTG]

I'm raising kids working 2 jobs and just hit act 2 with my Warrior and almost there with my Merc. It's the most fun I've had since D2

[@villefere6968]

Im 50 years old playing on solo self-found, just got to maps and having a great time! My witch has an entire army of minions.

[@WTIME69]

I’ve been playing games as long as I can remember, I’m 26 now and I hope I will not stop enjoying games when I’m 50! You gave me some hope sir, thank you!

[@SPAMSPAM-p3v]

Yeah that is the meta ez build bud

[@ragnakh]

@@SPAMSPAM-p3v It's easier, granted. You still get oneshot if you don't pay attention. I've seen builds destroy bosses in 2 seconds, I think those builds are the easiest tbh.

[@villefere6968]

@@SPAMSPAM-p3v I havent looked at any build guides, just taking what looks fun and useful.

[@eastcow]

@@ragnakh yap those 2 sec be easiest to be avoided ( surely nerfing next patch). just generally avoid 2sec build for now.

[@MongoLolz]

Pushing 140 hours. I almost feel bad I only spent $30. I'll probably use their mtx store to throw the devs more money because they deserve it. Loving this game.

[@DKinger]

Ill let you in on a little secret, throwing a bone to the devs is more like throwing a bone to their shareholders cause aside from a measly Christmas bonus the devs likely will only see their salary. Very important to note, GGG is owned by Tencent. So do what you will with that information.

[@petespeedsxp4967]

@@DKinger you are right. no dev will see a single dolar from mtx. on the other hand they are only able to do poe2 (and continue poe1) because they make the shareholders happy. So while you are right, it's still "supporting" the devs.

[@czczfunfun]

me too, I am going to spend some money in game

[@RandomHater123]

How do you kill that which has no life?

[@eircK]

​@@DKinger by buying mtx you're making it valuable for Tencent to keep this company running and paying every dollar of the devs salaries

[@LuisGarciaRamirez]

Im 44 and this is the best ARPG i have ever played. And I have played them all.

[@IdyllicMullet]

I'm 40 and totally agree

[@imthedevilkys536]

37, D2 is still king but this could beat it.

[@violau8550]

Dude, you should really really go to play Nioh 2, that one has the best combat ARPG in history i dare say. But of course this game is very very very good as well.

[@MikeyJ28]

It’s not anywhere as good as PoE 1 but no ARPG is. Why would an Early Access game be comparable to the literal king of ARPGs for over a decade?

[@IdyllicMullet]

@MikeyJ28 agreed. But the fact that it's even close to comparable with 6 months to 1 year of development until full release is impressive. I don't see myself going bank to POE1

[@sadwynbrophy3985]

GGG have released the notes for the next patch which will improve things A LOT! Being able to fast travel between checkpoints being huge. And what you were saying about the honour system, they have changed the loss of honour the closer you are to enemies, so that helps melee builds.

[@eduardoborges506]

A lot of reviews will get outdated after the first month

[@KiamKweli]

Yes I'm from the future and can confirm that checkpoint teleporting is awesome. No loading screen with a simple fade to black screen animation.

[@jadeapiata6545]

Its a godsend lol ​@@KiamKweli

[@bigdubyuh7901]

@@KiamKweli what do you think the black screen is.... its a load screen even brining up the world map has a load screen. Everything has a slight load screen my dude

[@KiamKweli]

@bigdubyuh7901 Use a way point. That's an actual loading screen in the traditional sense. It even gives a useful random hint on how to play the game. Most people expected it to be like those screens when they first announced this feature.

[@malguskerensky]

It is early access, so if you are debating about jumping in, be aware you may have your class broken a few times while balance is still being tweaked. One bit of feedback I hope the devs take is allowing the MTX cosmetics to be fully account enabled, instead of being only usable on a single character at a time. This seems to be mostly with armor but it would be nice if I could equipment what I purchase across all characters I want.

[@pinguthelightning]

Well, I know it's super annoying, but you have the option to just re-equip the MTX on the character you are using currently.

[@johnmerritt5351]

I agree with you in theory, but knowing ggg's monetisation and how fair i think it is i think its alright to have the mtx limited to 1 usage at a time

[@DarkPassenger]

@@johnmerritt5351 They charge an awful lot for those cartoonish immersion breaking cosmetics for them to be 1 use. Also I'm not sure how "free to play" it really is. You do need to buy extra stash if you plan on playing this more than 1 casual playthrough. You also need premium stash if you want to trade which seems to be the only way to get good gear at this point.

[@stoutheart]

i m 50 hours in. never been this happy since grim dawn. and diablo 4 dissapointment has doubled my joy in poe 2. hands down best arpg ever.

[@BigMoserGaming]

Imagine Grim Dawn with these graphics and WSAD movement coupled with its multi classing systems. Oh that would be awesome!

[@Personal43546hf]

@@BigMoserGaming Hopefully they they could add it in an update.

[@trafficosrs]

They aint updating Grim Dawn let it go lol ​@@Personal43546hf

[@RB-bx6je]

​@@BigMoserGaming Grim dawn with this graphics will be kinda insane.

[@Chuenz]

True and real! Before POE2 came out Grim Dawn was hands down the best ARPG(for me) that I have ever played since Diablo 2.

[@jpm8288]

You get over 100 hours of gameplay for a game that only costs $30. That is great value.

[@stephaneurismendez1712]

And you also get those 30 worth in game currency. So it is basically free.

[@redaffix7320]

And this is just like 1/2 the campaign and probably like 1/4 of the end-game mechanics. And for the full release, it's going to free to play. Worth the $30 if you compare it to stuff like Torchlight 1/2 or even older RPGs like Dark Alliance, Champions of Norrath, and it even competes with Grim Dawn, Last Epoc and D4 while having a lot less unique content.

[@Shipdacheese]

@@stephaneurismendez1712 since when does currency in-game translate to real life dollars or 'free'? :) anyway...i think one person can get 2k hours from this easily so 30 bucks sounds like an easy investment.

[@ragnakh]

Way more than 100 I have put as many hours in as Force at this point, little over a 100. My main is 80 and 2nd char at 67. The game is only beginning at that point.

[@MrRhoidRage]

@@jpm8288 poe1 Andy’s won’t see it like this. “ARPGs are made to be enjoyed for thousands of hours”

[@Schmidteren]

You look like someone who just came out of a cave, after being in there a week. I probably look the same.

[@IdyllicMullet]

My performance at work over the last 2 weeks has significantly declined. People are starting to ask if I'm ok

[@derundercoverginga]

My sleepschedule changed to sleeping only 5 hours instead of 8. the grind doesmt stop

[@Dacarts]

@@IdyllicMullet Yo forreal this is me! 🤣

[@tisbutascrach]

​@@IdyllicMulletI called in sick whilst looking at potential work-from-home options. 😂

[@optimumpride7057]

I work 12 hours go home take a bath then play the game 3-4 hours sleep.... But if its off day (Sleep is basically none existent)

[@Thrawn90]

I love watching videos like this (that go over some critisisms and what they think needs to change) come out the day after GGG drops massive update notes addressing the issues highlighted in the video. You just know these creators are 80% done working on the video and then GGG renders a large chunk of it obsolete lol. GGG moving faster than creators can pump out content, love it.

[@Zerax_]

I was gonna say, listening to his complaints after reading their pre-holiday patch plans was peak. Like round one complaints got addressed in the first patch? Round two complaints in the second patch. Let's get that W.

[@Snafu564]

My D4 crew took on PoE2 and we find it more difficult (lvl 14 atm). With that being said, we keep going and get excited when we beat bosses (insert cheers and GGs). If(when) we lose, we go back to town and prep for the next run. It is not a problem, but more of a challenge. We are excited to play every afternoon.

[@crd88918]

just wondering how many hours played for you?

[@Snafu564]

@@crd88918 I'm at 15 hours and level 17 after last night

[@bigcat8979]

I love how your cover photos always look like you just woke up from a coma

[@julianmorgan79]

He always looks like he had bad sex lol

[@blazedehart2748]

15:29 “I’m gonna be modifying it to add resistances..” more like adding stun threshold or light radius. 😂

[@AaronLBond]

Fr they gotta get rid of those useless affixes man 😂

[@Lone_Wolf_91]

The fucking light shit gets me everytime😃

[@n3v3r1s4]

Ya'll wanted a spiritual successor to D2? Here's some light radius for ya! xDDD

[@blazedehart2748]

@@n3v3r1s4 I’m rolling light radius in 2024 😭

[@SleeplessNinja]

Stun threshold is actually quite good though. It makes it so when you get hit your character doesn't go into a stun animation which can literally kill you. Been playing PoE 1 for 2000 hours. Take it from me when I say it's not bad. It just feels bad when you are looking for something specific and end up getting that instead

[@dogs-game-too]

My only real complaint is shared coop loot. My friend is a loot ninja and it's obnoxious

[@liamweagal7577]

you can turn it off :)

[@Jipooki]

set to permanent allocation in party settings

[@cunix8721]

Open options click game go under default item allocation and put it to Permanent Allocation and tell your friend to do it too and wupti u got proper shared coop loot.

[@carlosmunoz767]

Also, if you REALLY "Coop" it doesn't matter whos looting because everything should be shared

[@lighteasyweight1524]

Hes not your friend

[@cgibbard]

They've already announced they're changing honour in the next patch to reduce honour damage taken by a huge amount if you're in melee range of the source. You could already overcome the difference by getting enough honour resistance, but this should help make things more fair between builds.

[@aetherblackbolt1301]

I mean there was also a bug where DoT did triple the honour damage than it should have that they're gonna fix 😂

[@magusheart]

I am not a big ARPG player, but I'm digging this so far. A lot of it is the WASD movement instead of point and click. It just feels so much better. One major point that annoys me right now is Ascendencies. I played a lot of Ragnarok Online in my youth, where getting your advanced class felt so damn cool: you'd get new skills that changed the way you played, a lot more power, and a new visual appearance. It really made you feel ascended, and choosing which advanced class to go for really gave you a different way to approach the game. PoE2's ascendencies completely fail at this. I'm a gemling legionaire; I feel no difference in power or playstyle from being just a simple mercenary. I get a cool splash art with diamond-encrusted skin, yet I just look like the same basic character as when I was level 1. I do not feel ascended. I do not feel like fighting through that (horrendous) trial was worth it, and I'm not excited at all about my next ascendency points. If I see another mercenary in town, I have nothing that tells me whether he's a gemling legionaire or a witchhunter, and I'm sure that if I'd picked witchhunter, I'd still be playing the exact same way. I really think GGG dropped the ball big time on those.

[@maguszero]

To be clear, gemling is the worst for this, since the gemling just buffs generic things. But overall the goal of the system is to give you cool stuff that you may be able to use in a variety of ways. They are very rarely playstyle-defining: Deadeye sounds like its for archers, but none of it actually says 'arrows' - a projectile-based spellcaster deadeye is an entirely reasonable build. I'm using the gemling ascendency to allow me to use staff gems on a strength build, which is a pretty substantial playstyle change. You will probably have the most fun trying to figure out off-class combinations: even something simple like a deadeye crossbow build might feel great, and a melee witch hunter ought to be really solid.

[@tambulee]

WASD definitely a major win 🏅

[@aetherblackbolt1301]

Gemling Legionnaire essentially allows you to break the rules regarding support gems, skill gems, attributes, or attribute requirements due to using gems directly in their body rather than on gear. Whether that's interesting to you or not highly depends on how novel you can be with these rule breaks.

[@magusheart]

@@aetherblackbolt1301 I'm still having fun running around shooting things with my crossbow, don't get me wrong. But I wanted gems to actually sick out of my skin

[@XiLock_Alotx]

It’s simply blows my mind that there is still another three acts to come. What we have currently is 40 to 50 hours for the story alone. I’ve already logged 87 hours and I’m just now hitting cruel difficulty.

[@Yurtskees]

3 acts, 6 more ascendancies for the current classes, 6 more characters each with 3 ascendancies, more support gems to come! And the list goes on and on

[@TheCarnivaI]

87 hours just to hit cruel difficulty is wild.

[@ThienNguyen-wh1fz]

That is wild lol…

[@Uphold-your-Rights]

​@@Yurtskeesweapons. We are still missing swords, daggers, claws, axes and any new gear.

[@dencsyy]

@@Yurtskees Dont forget the weapons that will come in with the classes, which means way more builds, way more gems and a horribly more ways to play your character :D

[@XavierShade]

W review, I'm glad you're enjoying it. I hope that the changes will bring some people back because I can see the vision. Once Exalts and Regals are dropping and we're teleporting from checkpoint to checkpoint, it's going to feel so good.

[@80AM.]

yeah because people love to farm currency so they can spend all night looking on a website for gear to use rather than farming for gear and playing the game instead. such stupid logic

[@DanielSantos-ym8vd]

My biggest issue with the game is that the only good loot I’ve been able to get is by trading. Getting better gear on your own is just pure gambling which defeats the incredibly potential of crafting in this game.

[@douglasmurdoch7247]

One of the downsides of poe 1 as well. I’ve done solo self found outside of my first endgame weapon and some 25% movement speed boots. But it would be nice if there was more deterministic crafting options.

[@oRiskyBusiness]

I kinda get annoyed that people trade for better stuff. I gamble it constantly and it's fun and rewarding. Being able to just pick the gear you want without you playing for it makes it super cheap to those who don't trade. I just know these people skipped the line for gear

[@HonestMan247]

100%. RNG-based crafting is bad design. Full stop. If there's a 10% chance of getting something that you actually want, then just increase the cost by 5x (or 10x) and let the player pick. - Or provide the OPTION. Let players either gamble for a fraction of the cost, or save up to pick exactly what they want.

[@douglasmurdoch7247]

@ this has to be the most brain dead take I’ve ever heard. Trading is a core, fundamental component of the game. Items aren’t getting donated for free as an act of charity. They’re being bought with currency. Wacky take

[@Joonysuke]

Gamba-crafting can be annoying, but it is VERY exciting getting a craft that improves your build exponentially. You have no idea how hard I popped off when I gamba'd my Quarterstaff and my Life on Hit swapped to 19% Atk Spd with a Vaal Orb. Much to my surprise.

[@Anything-butOrdinary]

Im level 73, I am playing SSF. I have gear that is still around level 30 because I havent found an upgrade from drops, merchants, or crafting. I need specific affixing that if arent on I cant upgrade. Some currency drops are still super rare and trying to craft for an upgrade is too far and between in attempts.

[@KiamKweli]

@@Anything-butOrdinary Solid point it can be even worse in Standard. It's almost like they built the loot around trading just like in OG PoE.

[@Relhio]

I don't understand why GGG is so damn stubborn with their damn trading. I'm playing an ARPG, I want to grind for loot, not spend 30 minutes on a browser to look for the Chinese bot that has the item I want and then spend another 30 being ignored by 50 people. Just make the damn guilds like Last Epoch did and allow SSF to get better drops and be able to grind for specific things, good lord...

[@DarkPassenger]

@@KiamKweli My biggest complaint is the gear progression. It's one of the worst I've seen in a "loot" game. I really hope they don't make it based around trade, because I do enjoy this game and want to keep playing.

[@comancostin4623]

Great game with even greater potential. This thing is gonna be unrecognizable when it releases in the 1.0 version and I bet it will go down in history as one of the greats.

[@DustinHarms]

Really fantastic review for the launch of Early Access. Can't wait to see another on launch in ~12 months. We're already seeing such amazing refinement, having multiple huge patches since launch. Really bodes well.

[@80AM.]

"huge patches" they've changed like nothing. lmao

[@elQueFaltaba]

My witch died 77 times, and while I reached Act 3, I don't have the gear to push forward, nor to make it through the Trials of Chaos. I might need to make an alt character. This being said, I'm enjoying the new version of PoE so much, and I'm looking to repeat with this one the 2000+ hours of playing that I had in the previous one.

[@Stridshorn]

What kind of build are you running on the witch?

[@Noah-hz9cx]

If you dont wanna do a necro witch, chaos dot builds are super fun right now :)

[@isaachoverson]

Search up an minion army infernalist build. You shouldn't be having issues at act 3

[@elQueFaltaba]

@@Noah-hz9cx that's what I'm currently trying, but it's slow to clear out hordes of mobs coming your way, and takes a lot of time to take down certain bosses, and I lose the health race with them. I should soon get Hexblast and see this in a different way, probably

[@JamieR]

​​​​​@@elQueFaltabaArcanist + SRS clears everything. It's still strong post nerf. Use a shield, block nodes and actively block. Stack es and life. Get damage taken as mana, regen and in mid maps spec into MoM or go hard with es. Stack level of minion (helm/weap), spirit (weap, chest, amu) and res cap (at least 50-60%). Should be able to play without looking at the screen at that point. Arcanist has the best aoe capability. The other skills and melee are just not as good for map clear. Pathing for melee definitely needs work. And we lack convocation. Might change then as we can drop the pack ontop of the mobs then

[@marc-y5e]

I always love the content on this channel. Very informative and balanced takes.

[@LuketheGamerDuke]

Sweet Monk 😎 easily my favorite character. I’m 70 hours in and having a blast so far. Items play a heavy part in how difficult of a time you’ll have, which can lead to some extremely frustrating, Elden Ring-style boss battles. Map navigation is atrocious but GGG is already fixing that. I have a feeling this’ll be the new standard for ARPGs

[@socialwizard]

In short: the the game is fantastic, just a bit earlier access than a lot of us were expecting. That said, this is already one of the best ARPG's ever made, and it will only get better as time goes on. Hopefully they give us a roadmap of content drops soon!

[@Fergus-H-MacLeod]

And now I finally know what mapping is. I kept seeing people refer to this and I didn't know what they were talking about. I'm somewhere in Act II and having a good time.

[@doma7956]

Maps have potential but need balancing. Mobs one shotting and then grinding for maps is sucky.

[@Fergus-H-MacLeod]

@@doma7956 Yeah, i'm not looking forward to that part. The one-shotting specifically lol

[@crunks420]

Don't worry about rushing to the end game. Enjoy the campaign. The end game will keep getting better and better. Taking your time will mean you get to the end game after it is finally balanced, and that is ideal.

[@chimeraelite]

They just dropped a patch that hopefully will be fixing that issue. (I just got into Act 3 I'm nowhere near it lol) ​@@doma7956

[@bowtieism3]

​​​@@doma7956They nerfed maps a bit now with new update. Also problem is players not building defense which is necessary in endgame. So they dont respec or gear into defense after campaign and expect to survive, most ppl dont even know how to build to survive campaign.

[@sagi3933]

I love how the game can be slow and methodical early in the campaign, only to eventually get out of hand fast with ridiculous screen clearing and speed in the most extreme cases, provided you build it properly (I would hate to seestuff like Flicker Strike getting killed off, if you want to go full crazy, with enough investment you should be able to) :D

[@simrock_]

As one of my mates pointed out, D2 act 1 was the town and tomb stuff, act 2 was deserty, act 3 was the jungle. There's a certain parallel there xD

[@IdyllicMullet]

I'm not upset about it haha. This team was started by the former devs of Blizzard North, who created D2.

[@Azmodaii]

@@IdyllicMulletthey were inspired by them, ggg was founded by some dudes in new zealand.

[@klepp34]

So in acts 4/5/6 we go to ‘hell’/snow capped mountains/??? Can’t wait

[@silicon-shaman]

GGG is making ripples, this is how a legendary ARPG is built. Proper fucking S-tier game.

[@MadmanThreeTwoTwo]

F tier game sold as slop consumed by lemmings.

[@silicon-shaman]

@@MadmanThreeTwoTwo oh no, what happened, your BIS gear isn't dropping even after you gobbled Actiblizzard's dick? Sucks to be you.

[@TheKingSalty]

My buddy and I just finished Act 6 and got into maps... that was a slog for sure, we had some fun but I DO NOT want to do that again. My major complaints are the rez time and the graphical glitches in some areas.

[@ki_wi_8525]

This guy is such a good reviewer. Brilliant video. Cheers. P.S feel free to share your witch build! ha

[@dtceo]

ascendancy is an absolute dogwater experience

[@lunaretic3]

what class is u

[@ghostlightx9005]

Yep. A total game killer imo.

[@Uphold-your-Rights]

​@@lunaretic3that should be irrelevant. Its needs a redesign with a new mechanic(s).

[@bunnyman1142]

The next patch can't come fast enough.

[@zemiron]

For real. I find it a pretty boring and tedious experience. It wasn't too bad with my monk and my ranger, but I have no idea how I'm going to complete it with my two-handed melee warrior.

[@paulblart2179]

Keep in mind that this is only the first draft of the end game. What currently exists is what they threw together in 2 months before release when they realized they needed to have a substantial end game at launch instead of a finished 6 act campaign. And it's already orders of magnitude better than D4's end game.

[@TheBigMeetch]

Loving it so far! Also very impressed by the speed they've reacted to feedback

[@UniqueTechnique29]

I love the game and I’m 65 hours in. My two main issues are the lack of exalted orbs and the crafting RNG is just too wide. The pools are cluttered across classes to hit even 50% of what you’re looking for. They want you to craft but it feels like a black hole of chance.

[@mahwardy6918]

Don’t forget the constant crashes when you travel because of the cpu being overloaded, pc freezes and nothing can be done except hard reset.

[@Remindw]

Buy new pc then lul

[@solidsteel3634]

It hasn't happened to me once and I have about 100 hours in the game.

[@SweebyMignonne]

I heard this was windows 11 specific problem from recent windows update so may take longer to fix

[@ghostlightx9005]

@@SweebyMignonne I think it is CPU. I have an Intel, friend has an AMD. After about 30 hours co-op, he has crashed a couple of dozen times and I have not crashed once. And the crash he experiences is a bad one. Total freeze of machine, have to completely reboot.

[@Florian.Crmrdr]

​@@ghostlightx9005Happened to me.Disable multithreading processing and should be good.

[@jessco8950]

Wow I haven’t seen you since back when I watched you playing the original overwatch. Glad to see you again.

[@alexou857]

Have no wife anymore I guess

[@sinnshii3285]

It’s kinda lame that they think getting one shot and reducing your resistances so much that you get one shot is how they make the game “hard”

[@n8doggy733]

I've played all six classes and have had fun but the balance is atrocious, like really bad.

[@aaronleader3046]

Remember. Any class can use any weapon. Any skill.

[@Thandulfan]

@@aaronleader3046 and starts in completely different part of passive tree so theres no point to do anything else than the class standard

[@m.h.4907]

​@@ThandulfanAscendancy is the point. Check explosive grenades, all play that on Deadeye because it is superior to Mercenary

[@Gumpinn]

​​@@ThandulfanI play with bow on a sorcerer, works super well. Never had an issue so far and went over to monks talent tree as fast as i could when game released. Played as a monk until lvl 30 or something, you can rpck any wep you want. I highly recommend to try as many as possible in the early game.

[@SH1NK1R01]

@@aaronleader3046just because you only know how to copy and paste doesn’t mean that’s the limit of the system.

[@syfyfan969]

I'm a bit anxious about when seasons are introduced and we have to run through the campaign again and again. The campaign so far is good but the difficulty and size of the maps means I'm going to be barely getting to endgame as a casual gamer. Might need to go back to D4.

[@JookySeaCpt]

Not looking forward to the trials and honor system every season.

[@obscurside3652]

you can always play standard league , play and progress the same character for years if you want.

[@nativezero]

With this as my main Arpg and LE I'm set for a long time for Arpg's

[@iansingh8536]

Which is better in your opinion?

[@MrRafagigapr]

Last epoch had these 9 months of no path of exile 1 to release something big but they take so long to release anything meaningful , hopefully they start ramping up progress in the game i really tried to like the game but after 200 hours i personally don't see any reason to go back for now until they release the hopefully big patch next year

[@nativezero]

@iansingh8536 I prefer the setting and graphics for POE 2, combat is really good and bosses are way better but I prefer crafting in LE. Build crafting wise I think for me fairly equal. It could be due to it being new but I lean more to prefer POE 2.

[@gorecomplex]

@@iansingh8536poe 2 will be far better overall especially at full release

[@nativezero]

@MrRafagigapr they plan to in Jan. I like the idea of mixing up two.

[@paulblart2179]

I haven't had this much fun with a game in a long time. I go to sleep thinking about POE and wake up thinking about POE. Every class is super fun and unique and have multiple viable builds. I've gotten two to around level 70 and I'm working on my third now. The amount of content in this early access game for only $30 is honestly insane. Like others have said, I plan on buying a ton of cosmetics because not only do they look amazing, but the devs really do deserve the money for making such a stellar product.

[@samnyce]

Best map soundtrack has to be hunting grounds!!!!

[@Mkmarri]

D2 nostalgia?

[@bryank427]

ty so much for this, explained really well. looking forward to getting addicted to this game. i love ARPG's!

[@nena_DP]

My single biggest issue is the performance tbh. A 2060 isn't close to enough when you're casting spells all over the screen. My friend's ps5 is on fire too when there's too much stuff on screen which is kinda crazy EDIT: I'm guessing most of you are in act 1 or aren't spamming many spells.

[@ananwahid1408]

My 2060 6GB is fine on ultra 1080p though, maintaining stable 75fps lock unless i load a whole new map, then it drops to 45 a few seconds first. What's your CPU ?

[@xxPow3rslave]

i have a 2060 as well, if you tweak your settings a bit you can get a solid 60 fps even with big spells going off

[@vigamingde]

CPU bottleneck

[@helljumper_]

Try changing your graphics settings if you havent. I had similar issues until i changed the Renderer to Vulkan

[@brandonboothroyd240]

@@nena_DP I'm on a xbox series s and the game runs smooth. 60fps pretty consistently. Even on 30fps the game looked pretty good. Idk I just know a series s is definitely the weakest between a decent PC and a PS5 so idk maybe double check your graphics. I did have to change mine cause it looked awful like the fire and lightning was worse looking than poe1 somehow when I first booted up.

[@zebrion5793]

Dude I am so addicted to this game. Since Dec 6, I've logged like 165 hours. It's the most fun I've had in trying to design builds, getting my butt kicked and then re-tooling and finding stuff that works. Insanely good replay value, and half the skills aren't even out yet.

[@Hellbrngr624]

6k hours in poe1. 120 hours logged on poe2 in a week for me, fulltime job and everything. As time goes on this will easily be known as the best arpg of all time.

[@Matt-uv7mc]

Agreed. A lot of people are saying this isn't as good as POE1 but that game has been out for 10+ years? This game is still in EA and I think it's better then POE1 imo.

[@synen]

PoE2 wont top PoE1 in my book.

[@X-rayAnon]

D2 still better 😊👍

[@elijahfatzinger4631]

@@Matt-uv7mcyeah for real. This game has absolutely blown my mind. GGG has my full support.

[@brandonisaac1104]

Nah old outdated boring 😅​@X-rayAnon

[@JohnJohnson-qm7dj]

I hope the checkpoint changes help us traverse through these HUGE maps.

[@dangkolache]

Dude you mentioned 'crafting' doesn't mean smelting ore into a sword, but a system for making your own bases would be SICK, since bases are more important (due to no scours or alts) it would be awesome to have the ability to create your own bases, maybe even superior versions of a base with higher baseline stats for example....

[@masomthefoodie]

Awesome video! What class / play style is the "monk" looking gameplay with the staff? That's sick.

[@Nervous_89]

Great game from passionate.

[@NikiDrozdowski]

XP loss on death was the one thing that turned me off severely with POE 1 and made me quit. Hearing that it rears its ugly head again concerns me for my long-time motivation. I can see myself trying different builds and characters but once I cross that threshold and start losing XP repeatedly I will probably quit again.

[@DanielSantos-ym8vd]

I like that defenses mean something for once.

[@sudstahgaming]

It's not for me I get bored quickly doing more or less the same thing but for people that love to level and grind characters and progress end game you will literally have 1000s of hours of game play literally!

[@AEGISDEFENSE]

Man, one boss in Act 1 gave me HEAVY D1 vibes similar to the OG Butcher. IYKYK.

[@CoachDodici]

aahhhhh fresh meat....

[@exciting-burp]

Just like the butcher you also have no warning as to just how hard your cheeks are about to get clapped. Brilliant.

[@khabraxis8487]

The guillotine… drops. (Dead)

[@madbone91]

Which one?

[@micheljolicoeur6094]

Totally agree with you. An Early Access good fun game is much better than western AAA constant remakes of old games or full releases of bad games. So so many bad AAA games this year.

[@IndustrialBonecraft]

My main gripe is just that there seems to be a massive inconsistency with the game's ability to communicate where you are vs where you should be in relation to difficulty. Maybe it was the fact I was playing a warrior, but I stopped after I hit Bone Pits. I could clear the mobs just fine, I had done a bit of grinding and had levelled up my cultist hammer and stuck an extra damage rune in it, etc. And so I was clearing packs in 2 swings, proccing the fire explosion thing with Boneshatter. Then you get to the boss duo and you're doing 0.1% of the health. Dodging the attacks isn't too bad, but I'd swing away at it for five minutes, barely touch it, and realise that the fight was going to take a trillion years and just quit. I just don't have time for that shit. But if I can clear the regular monsters with absolute ease, how then am I supposed to guage where I am relative to where the game wants me to be if I seem to be getting mixed signals? And if I'm apparently geared to the level that the vendors are selling me and the gear seems to be above the average of the item drops... how much further am I supposed to push that damage and what is the percentage chance of making that drop? See where I'm going with this? The way by which you guage your ability to clear the hurdles they set up, is more or less non-existent because the game seems to undermine itself.

[@user-ne9sd4ow1o]

Well said

[@ayoCC]

in PoE 1 your skills would upgrade as you play, in PoE2 they only get upgraded if you use newly dropped skill gems, I think they need to do something about that. Like when you're holding a new skill gem, make a pop up on the side of the screen where you can choose which gem you want to improve.

[@Scoobert54]

Boneshatter is good because white mobs have low stun threshold, boneshatter pops stuns. Bosses are much higher, so it makes sense it isn’t doing anything. You need a clear skill and a single target skill on warrior. Perfect strike fills this perfectly until lvl 52 when you get hammer of the gods.

[@superhello443]

Imagine getting a D4 ad from Rhykker while loading this video, saying that it's finally here. At least he doesn't say "Rhykker here" in the ad, which surprised me.

[@exposingthetruth3821]

I've got 100 hours in. Yea... game sucks...

[@FellixNoAmatsu]

The Devs had stated that the game as of right now features a lil over 80 unique bosses and over 200 common mob enemies.. And then followed by saying they plan to double those numbers by the games full release-

[@brandonS0001]

It's 50 unique bosses and 400 different mobs and will double with the addition of the next 3 acts to 100 unique bosses and 800 different mobs.

[@FellixNoAmatsu]

@brandonS0001 Ah, I must've misremembered the 50 as 80 then.. BUT either way 100 bosses and 400 mob enemies already overshadows what I could get out of D3 and D4 w/ their expansions.. and this is supposed to just be the boss/mob roster "On release" they're 100% gonna try and double it a second time after ita full release lol

[@billthecanuck]

i'm having a blast with poe2 so far, have an 80 titan, 40 deadeye and 30ish sorc in around 100 hours played, i'm up to tier 11 maps on the titan and i blow up screens full of monsters lol... definitely feels like poe mapping on him. in poe1 i had close to 1500 hours played, not a lot by poe standards but a lot for me, and i had never gotten a character past level 90ish... but i had a blast with every character, and so far inpoe2 i'm getting the same feeling. I'm enjoying getting in on the ground floor and learning the game at the same time as other people.

[@spensbat]

Hey brother would you be able to share with me your passives and abilities?

[@Soft-m2m]

Yeah, honestly, melee feels great outside of trials, river hag packs, and arguably on-death explosions, and they’re addressing two of those already.

[@Bexar2204]

I´m hooked on this game!. I´ve played about 80hrs. and been maining a witch, with a drizzle of Ranger here and there. Normally I´m hesitent about buying into EA games, but that might change. One change I´d really love to see GGG make, is implementing some kind of introduction to the passive skill tree forest - That is so extremely overwhelming for new players.

[@YoshihitoBLM]

You can trivialize the Trial of Sekhemas, even as a melee character, if you slot honour resistance relics. You can get 75% and basically make it so you have 4 times the honour.

[@Hankthomas3]

Another tip, run past the enemies in escape then fight them after you light the crystals

[@YoshihitoBLM]

@@Hankthomas3 You don't even have to fight the enemies in that one. You can just run past them and light the crystals. Once you light them all, the trial completes.

[@YoshihitoBLM]

Or the ones where you have to open the gates. I run past the enemies and only fight them if they are blocking a lever. Once you make it to the door, the trial completes, so fighting isn't needed.

[@dddingels]

not enough people know this

[@twintersify]

It's definitely not trivialized by floor 3 even with honor resistance relics lol

[@Keilnoth]

The challenge is what make this game great. It's not just a passive clicker where you have to grind (or buy) items.

[@ShyBoyFlyy]

The final boss of act 1 is kicking my ass right now lol that second phase is ridiculous

[@JookySeaCpt]

Definitely the first roadblock I encountered. Hard check for my warrior, but literally killed him before I realized it with Sorceress and Witch. My advice is to check your gear and upgrade or gamble for better items for anything that’s outdated, especially your weapon if melee. Next, add cold resist gems to some of your armor if your resistance is low. Hit C to bring up your character and check. Finally, make frequent use of your dodge roll and just learn his attack patterns. You’ll beat him eventually.

[@FFeeLiT]

ye had the same experience, but then i got better gear and everything changed. you need to check what ur build needs and then get the proper gear for it and upgrade them. then the game suddenly becomes easy mode. stacking armor, evasion or energy shield stats. stacking same type of damage. and things to know like poison damage scales with physical damage, attack damage, projectile damage. when u know things like that, then you can multiply ur damage.

[@Shipdacheese]

Keep at it you will get it. Or level up more then comeback. What's funny is that the first time i did it it took me a long time but now i made another character and did it 2nd try. So it's a learning experience

[@hiotsobo]

Took me about 15 attempts to get him down. Those ice beams hit boxes are absolutely borked. Act II’s boss is not nearly as difficult

[@Creslin321]

Tip: when he does the mist thing where you fight mobs and the wolf lunges into you from the fog, he will always lunge right when he finishes reciting a line of the poem. Also, he will always lunge from exactly where he ended his last lunge at.

[@Babachaw]

Some things to note in the critique section: 1) For the Sanctum Ascendancy Trial, melee got hugely buffed. If you are in melee range while taking damage you lose less honor (only take 35% of honor damage when in melee range increasing if you are further away) this made it SUUUUUPER easy with melee characters. Not free but really chill. 2) late game maps, the patch just hit hugely on all late game damage, resistances are now less punishing and one shots (occuring from chaos damage) have been gutted till you hit the higher tiers of maps. 3) Warrior is still hard but they just added new aftershock support gem (which warriors with maces currently use the most) that just made one of the underperforming builds more potent. That being said, game still needs a lot of work but GGG has been patching like crazy. No idea how they can change so much so fast and efficiently compared to blizzard considering Diablo 4 has still a bright future ahead of it but poe2 is a really really strong reality check for the "listening to feedback" part

[@Apaclypse]

I quit after doing the first trials. I did it but basically lost my interest after seeing the honour system

[@JookySeaCpt]

I was having fun doing the campaign with a friend, but the honor system killed our momentum. It just feels bad.

[@seanrogers3389]

Hey Force, just as an aside, trial of sekhemas is actually based on an activity called Sanctum in PoE 1. But back then it had nothing to do with ascendancy and was totally optional.

[@MrRigor09]

You didn’t really touch on the fact that the “crafting” is actually gambling. Getting better gear to progress through the game is very difficult, because drops and affixes are totally random and also the materials add random affixes. Not to mention the runes which can be socketed for additional resistances cannot be removed, afterward. Crafting in this game is a mess.

[@SPAMSPAM-p3v]

Just trade. It is super easy to do.

[@maddmind3756]

Crafting in this game is not finalized and all the deterministic crafting is in endgame when you would be finalizing gear choices not early game where every 5 levels or so you get an upgrade. Also the game is made with you trading for any specific gear you want in mind while selling interesting gear you find but can't use to others. It is meant to be a trade economy.

[@MrRigor09]

People giving this game a pass in so many ways. D4 got killed for its bad loot, with terrible affixes and its inventory system not having quest item and a gem tab. Yet, this game still has shit like light radius on items STILL, items and affixes that don’t pertain to your class, shared loot in multiplayer and D2’s antiquated inventory system. The double-standard here is astonishing.

[@SPAMSPAM-p3v]

@@MrRigor09 D4 got killed because of boring customization. Barely any variety in builds. Trade for gear and craft later.

[@SumGuy-fs8sy]

I’m 86 and playing co op with my 4 grand children. We are thoroughly enjoying it so far. Just finished act 1

[@huddleaw]

20-30 hours on a campaign you have to play each season/character is crazy.

[@XBluDiamondX]

That's assuming you don't play a bricked character. I had the misfortune of starting off trying ED/Contagion as a Witch. Chaos skills for witches are complete garbage with little to no help from ascendancies. The DoT does not scale well, and I was absolutely struggling to get through content whether I keep almost dying or mobs just take forever to die from the DoT. So while I had to go completely find a new character to play, people like Force Gaming was already galivanting off into maps.

[@TheArabek]

People already did campain in 12 hours

[@RobertSchiller-p6e]

yeah I do not see myself play through the 3 acts twice again and again. it is too long and tedious imho.

[@SH1NK1R01]

@@RobertSchiller-p6eyou think you have to play the first 3 acts each time? You just forgot they are place holder for the planned 4-6?

[@cedw]

​​@@SH1NK1R01which could be even longer than playing through act 1-3 again. Doesn't mean that different acts are better, they might be but they might also be twice a long. It's unknown

[@ItsYuriPomo]

Does anyone know if the skins that goes with the EA bundles are limited edition, or can be obtained even after the game's out?

[@maguszero]

Supporter pack rewards are always for a limited time.

[@cfc6214]

They are not very good this time. Past 2 ones were much cooler.

[@Kyoth3]

@@cfc6214The second one is amazing and is probably the best value we’ve ever had. Other are meh.

[@billthecanuck]

one thing i have noticed, while doing a playthru with 4 RL friends on my deadeye... 5 player group loot... drops... A lot of stuff. like just doing act two on sunday with them i picked up 14 exalts myself, and i didnt even pick up all of them, those were just the ones that went to me. And that's act 2 normal not cruel. i feel like multiplayer drops are somehow out of whack but i dont see anyone talking about it lol.

[@hochimichi]

I don't know if they carried it over from poe 1 but in that playing in bigger parties dropped alot more loot but increased mobile damage and health

[@The_Vegan_Punk]

If you played this for 100hrs, I feel sorry for you. I played for like 2 hrs n uninstalled it. Just like POE 1. It looks like it was made on 2012 & unless you are an expert at dodge-roll, you wont get very far. After the first boss you meet in the game, it’s just not worth trying to time every boss attack & dodge-roll at exactly the right time or you get 1-shot. That’s just bad game design IMO. POE is way overhyped. Don’t even bother.

[@NWOslave]

i think the game is great for people that can afford 100 hours. this will not be friendly to newcomers that have a limited amount of time to play. player numbers will crash faster than helldivers 2 when people figure out how bad rng is in the game once the official release happens.

[@jfelton3583]

THIS!!! This game is good for streamers and no-lifers. Essentially the depth that the majority of people will engage will be about the same as D4 as that's a casual game. The hype of this game will fall immensely due to the punishment and difficulty of the game play. The game can LITERALLY waste your time

[@billmackinaw9254]

Or when the casuals give up on the campaign..bosses to hard..maps to long!

[@Kyoth3]

Not really. The campaign is amazing just to play through. You can get 100+ hrs just completing the campaign on different classes.

[@NWOslave]

@Kyoth3 I have 45 hours in the game on two characters and have yet to get out of act 2 because of shitty rng. Tell me to git gud or skill issue but I have no control over what the game gives me.

[@heavenselite21]

I disagree my friend.. i dont hve a lot of time to play also but i got to cruel and reaching end game now only 2 campaign maps left to end game..

[@doobidoof]

great value for this game. been grinding hard. will definitely buy some cosmetics to support the devs

[@MarcusHalberstram69]

Game sucks. Keep coping and glazing so the fan boys don't come for you. It's a slog. It's tedious. It's arduos. It's unrewarding. Trading is necessary. Crafting is gamba. It devolves to one shots. My build got nerfed...twice. The endgame is shallow and repetitive. No one is going to return to this slog every league.

[@NicolasCharly]

It’s Early Access dude, chill… 😅

[@MarcusHalberstram69]

@NicolasCharly Cope harder!

[@MegaMrASD]

20:39 for me it was the music that plays when you die. Instantly gave me early WoW nostalgia. The cathedral like echo, the female aria, all good vibes

[@ii2038]

53hours in and not even finished with act 3 (1st time)...

[@sneekyshot1]

"you lose 10% xp each death, it is very punishing" logout button: hello

[@papis7676]

Same thing in PoE 1, no risk no reward

[@Araxeus]

lol have you played the game? if you logout the instance gets paused, when you go back in you are in the same state

[@sneekyshot1]

@@Araxeus yeah, without all the shit on the ground and spells coming at you that was going to kill you

[@sneekyshot1]

and im new to poe, and this mechanic is garbage, i hear people made macros to logout on their hardcores in poe1, pathetic.

[@johnmerritt5351]

​@@sneekyshot1i find you and your rant pathetic too, just try to mind your own business instead of spreading your hate and dumb take

[@JPKDVC]

People have been complaining about difficulty and not getting rewarded by completing a map, not getting enough gear, not enough fast travel etc etc and I just cannot agree with them. Then I remember I'm a classic RO player xD. This game could be way slower and harder and it would still be fun

[@Derek8487]

What's Ro?

[@sagi3933]

Regarding accessability and difficulty of certain build choices, GGG could add a difficulty rating or recommend certain classes over others for new players in the character selection screen, as well as for the ascendancies said classes have access to, for example like this: - Ranger and Sorceress would be "easy" or "beginner-friendly" as more generic ranged classes, with Deadeye also being rated "easy" (shoot bow skills and scale projectiles, simple), but Pathfinder being rated "medium" difficult (poison is not a no-brainer build). Stormweaver would also be "easy", but Chronomancer would be "hard" or "challenging" to build around properly, with potentially great payoff - Melee classes like Monk and Warrior would probably get a "medium" difficulty, as they rely a lot on synergies between skills and playing well in more dangerous positions, but can be very strong if properly played and built. Their ascendancies would be rated based on how accessible they are, so Invoker would likely be easy to medium, Titan would be easy and Warbringer maybe easy to medium. - Witch would be an example of a "hard" or "challenging" class to build around, especially since both current ascendancies are hard to understand at first and not easy to build properly around. Obviously, that doesn't make them bad, but still not recommended to a blind new player. These recommendations in the character selection are actually a thing in many other online games to help with decision-making, and to prevent a bad first experience, without impeding the choice players can make.

[@fyte4luv23]

losing 10% exp is probably the reason i'll quit this game. lag, dc, crash are all avoidable, to be punished by that is over the top.

[@m.h.4907]

You lose 15% in T10+ maps, they raised it

[@Vaporvision]

Come back a little later when game is closer to finished :) Then this won't be such a problem

[@Gumpinn]

Haha this explains why i had a hard time leveling in the beginning when i unlocked maps 😂 Failed alot of them thanks to playing way to aggressive, now i do them reliably. Only bummer is ehen you get one shotted by a white chaos mob. This will be changed in the next patch tommorow so it happend once and never again for me.

[@outdoorsvoyage6993]

If you crash and dc that frequent yeah.. i have not crashed, lagged or dc'd in now 80 hours of playing so for me its fair game. I would not ever change this since its forces me to keep being focused.

[@alexmo1941]

You will die way less now because of the difficulty changes. But go off King.

[@JookySeaCpt]

Was having a lot of fun with the game until I hit the Ascendancy trial and the awful feeling Honor System. It really sucked the fun out of the game for me and I haven’t been able to look at PoE2 the same since. Hopefully the patch will make it better, but I would still prefer they just remove Honor for at least the first trial. Playing as warrior.

[@takh6806]

I played around 20 hours, it's overhyped. going back to Diablo 4.

[@joehardwaree]

overhyped? no you just want a more casual experience, which is totally fine.

[@crimhammerlock8963]

"I don't like it therefore it's bad"

[@1974greymalkin]

The first boss shit on me...Going back to D4

[@Stridshorn]

Regarding the exp-loss on death: The same mechanic is in PoE 1 and I have 4k hours in that game and only 1 max level character. Levels at the very high end are not remotely required and more of something "extra" you can aspire to obtain. This is unless you are in the top .1% of wealthy exiles in which case why listen to me?

[@NikiDrozdowski]

Still, this was the mechanic that singlehandedly made me quit POE. As much as they respect my time with everything else (especially not deleting HC characters) - this is a giant FU from GGG and after watching this video I feel much less motivation to get back into POE 2.

[@Stridshorn]

@@NikiDrozdowski Dude it is fine if you dont like the game, it doesn't automatically mean it is a bad game. A ton of people enjoy sports games and I don't play them because I dislike them. Not sure how losing experience on death is an affront to the players though, can you elaborate on that?

[@NikiDrozdowski]

@@Stridshorn Quite the opposite: I love the game! It is just fantastic in every aspect: World design, story, gameplay ... even difficulty. I took 50 hours for the first playthrough to listen to every dialogue and clear every map. It's really that good. And I don't mind difficult content: Let me hit a brick wall when my build is dogshit. Let me die over and over again on difficult maps, let me never reach 100 because the grind is just prohibitingly hard - I don't care. If somebody wants to invest all the time and effort to do the pinnacle content, go for it. What I mean is: It is perfectly fine to deny me something I'm not working hard for. That's life. You have to earn stuff. But to take away something I HAVE ALREADY EARNED feels just awful. If I play for an hour, die to some stupid mechanic and then lose everything I gained in that hour, I have absolutely wasted my time. Which is precious to me. GGG respects my time more than other companies by e.g. not deleting a HC character after death. I tried HC back in D2 and died as a 92 paladin. This was the most devestating moment in 35 years of gaming for me. Everything I did was just a colossal waste of time. That's why I never got into HC again. But GGG lets you keep the character after death, which is why I might try HC in POE 2 again. But XP loss on death is basically forced HC on everybody. After lvl 70 you are always at risk of just wasting your time (of course one could argue that playing games is a waste of time anyway, but this mechanic still hits differently). And this is the worst feeling in the world (of gaming). I sat 10 min. in the character select screen yesterday contemplating if I want to get back into POE 2. It was that big of a motivation killer for me. And from what I read other people feel similarly. There are other methods for GGG to achieve the same goal of having a pinnacle aspiration goal for the blasters and no-lifers. Make it brutally hard. Make it tedious. Make it frustrating in any other gameplay-related way. But just taking away xp is not only lazy, it is actively insulting. If they keep this mechanic I really have to think hard if I ever want to engage with endgame. Which is a shame because I love every other aspect of the game.

[@Stridshorn]

​@@NikiDrozdowski I think we just have way different expectations from the gaming sessions - I usually dont care much for defense or playing well, so I have only gone above 95 a single time without actively trying. But in PoE2 the exp loss is only after the campaign is over, so if you are as into the world and immerse yourself I think the Early Access is a pretty good match for you, as the main area lacking content currently is the endgame. And I do agree with you in principle - that is why I would never play hardcore. But I just dont "expect" to level so I dont see the exp loss as a tangible loss, I rarely ever look at my exp bar after campaign outside saving boss fights for post-level ups. In any case I am really grateful I ran into someone who disagrees with me and can present an argument for their case and keeps it on topic. You made my day better today!

[@grumpyfatso3071]

500k concurrent players on Steam only, btw. Many (some say most) PC players are playing via the stand alone client. The game is on Epic too as well as on both Xbox and Playstation.

[@XENON3120]

1:00 we have done it, we literally have said the impossible, a non finished game is treated like a final product. I love POE2 but can we please take a step back and see it for what it is, a great game but not a finished story.

[@ForceGamingYT]

I'm not treating it like a finished product. It is unfinished. Despite that, it's as good (if not better) than many "finished" games I've played this year. It's fun, for everything it is currently. Complete or not, I really enjoy what's here, right now. THAT is what matters most to me.

[@AdrianDWolfe]

If you really listened you would recognize that the statement is just touching on the fact that "finished" games nowadays are truly not finished. So many releases just feel like betas whereas this beta/early access game feels like a pretty complete game. Ive yet to run into any issues with the game so.. if anything Id call PoE2 "finished" and everthing else after this is a dlc 😂

[@michaelmacarthur8322]

Good impressions video. I’ve gone back to D4 for now after playing POE2 for 15 hours, I look forward to returning on full release; assuming it reviews well and they make some positive changes to loot.

[@islandwolfington]

same

[@EjayT06]

🤮

[@madmatt6240]

About 40 hours in and it’s just a slog! Stupid act bosses are too much and no way I’m starting a different character and going through this campaign again Sure it’s ok but I recommend waiting till it’s free.

[@BlueEternities]

I'm watching this to take up time until the server comes back up from the patch today. xD

[@Mc-Frosty]

The transition from playing LE and D4 to POE 2 was seamless. It’s not nearly as complicated a game as some may still think.

[@RED--01]

Finally 1 youtuber that doesnt just complain as if GGG will never fix the problems.. They have given us nothing but good communication and patches very fast! ofc they will address all issues as soon as they can.

[@25xxfrostxx]

I intend to complete the campaign with each class and be done. The endgame looks needlessly arduous and punishing. It's not something I am interested in experiencing, particularly when most bosses one shot. The "crafting" is also not crafting. It's bush league hard grind for materials to gamble, brick items and start over. GGG did not learn from Diablo 4. It's very bad. The "trading" between characters is Everquest in 2003 level technology. No thank you. It's nearly 2025, build an auction system.

[@MrF00tie]

POE enthusiasts would strongly disagree. The endgame and the growth of power is where it's at. There is nothing like that long power curve where you can improve your character in so many different ways. All the bosses are skill-based, you can avoid one-shot attacks if you pay attention and react quickly enough. If you do crafting like in Last Epoch or similar iterations, it's just way too easy and quick to get good gear. The game is more or less over in a week and you have to put in 0 brainpower and effort. There is nothing to learn from D4 at all, except maybe that easy & safe is never the way to go when releasing a game in an established genre. GGG is and always has been strongly against an auction house or any other method of easy gear acquisition. Then every build could be bought in a matter of minutes and the journey of getting your character from 0 to godly would be gone. If you do not want to put in the effort, POE2 is simply not the game for you.

[@Mattchu44]

I played a lot of poe1 from 2016 to 2019 and my expectations were very much exceeded. The game looks stunning, the spells are amazing to watch. My only complaint are the one shot mechanics in maps, and the micro stuttering, but thats more an issue with my own pc however I think it should run fairly well with a 1070 and 9700k

[@TheGrunaldi]

I am not a big arpg guy ... but i don't see how this game will be much different then PoE 1 ... btw PoE 1 sits on around 12k players a day with 200k peak i doubt PoE 2 will have much better numbers ... is still a niche game for specific offset of arpg fans ...

[@max9411]

What was the point of this comment?

[@ghostlightx9005]

It's a lot less fun than PoE1 imo.

[@NarqueCwb]

For now it's sitting on a stable and constant 500k players on steam only... As long as they keep fixing stuff, the potential of new players coming and possibly staying is huge. It more than doubled the peak player count of poe1. It also hit 1.2 million viewers on twitch when the EA came out... No matter what poe1 did, it would be difficult to have a huge increase in numbers. So this game will serve as publicity for the first game and it in itself also has a lot of potential to explore since it's so different from poe1

[@XBLonTwitch]

26:30 I see what you're saying and can respect that (SSF), but the game is designed around not giving you too much currency to where you just become so strong that min/maxing doesn't exist anymore. You could literally trade and buy so many different, "tiers", of gear/loot and endlessly upgrade with the currency you've EARNED by playing/killing stuff. Of course you could get lucky and get more than someone else, but the currency at the end of the day is designed for you to EARN and SPEND, to upgrade your character. I think it's one of the best markets and trading in an ARPG I've personally ever experienced. Makes the game so much more fun knowing you're earning something on the side to spend on what you want, whenever. Takes me back to high runes and SOJs, except now they're currencies.

[@ticien1]

This game couch co op is one of the best gaming experiences