Ford Bronco Body Work Fail

[@lorrainegarrett7683]

My hubby got hosed for body work also. Shysters. We also fronted up and said give us the truck back. Love the radius arms!!! We are days away from the reveal or I would send you a pic.

[@broncobabeadventures4316]

That’s so exciting! Please share when it’s ready!

[@MM-he2iq]

What a rough experience! Good help is hard to find these days sadly

[@broncobabeadventures4316]

It is sadly

[@kevinanderson7429]

Too bad that so many people who get into cool vehicles like you, unfortunately find out the hard way that cheap means cheap. The fact that he was a friend of your dads really makes it sting more since you relied on some trust being a factor and it didn't pan out. The good news is that in the big picture, that wasn't a lot of money since good bodywork costs a lot of $$$$$$$ these days and you learned a valuable lesson. My advice would be to learn to do the bodywork yourself if you have a place to do it. Be patient and watch a lot of KZbin videos. I am currently working on 2 Bronco's myself, a 78 and a 79. Putting the work in yourself will sometimes be frustrating ( as you've already found out ) but the reward when completed feels like nothing else. I've been helping my 30 year old daughter refurbish her 1976 F250 and she's becoming very accomplished and knows more about vehicles than most guys her age. Good luck !!!

[@broncobabeadventures4316]

Yah I was on the lookout to not get screwed over being a woman in the auto world and not knowing what I’m doing, but I wasn’t expecting it from a family friend. That’s really cool your daughter is restoring a truck also! And thanks for the encouragement, I’m trying to look at it as a blessing in disguise. I wouldn’t have done anything with the body if it wasn’t for him and now I’ll (eventually) have the color that I really want.

[@TheHord]

Thanks for sharing the updates, sorry to hear about the poor paint/body work. Do you have video of replacing the bushings for the front trail/suspension arms? 🍻🇺🇸

[@broncobabeadventures4316]

I might, the bushings job happened when I was 1000% over it and just needed it to be done so idk how much I recorded

[@PaperBeatsRock]

Damn Lauren this sucks so much. I'm sorry. I know it hurts and your feeling discouraged. Yeah, the self-taping screws through the wheel well are full-on BS and $400 just to hang one door.... Did you get your old door back and do you still have your wood grain trim off the door panel? That stuff is ultra-rare and no one is making them. Well looks like your going to be doing bodywork yourself. Chin up you can do this. Its just time and energy :) Good camera work. It's coming along. Something I saw and I do it a lot as well is not looking at the camera and looking at the screen. I get sucked into this often. To help out you can go buy a small white sticker or some white-out and place it right around the camera lens on the phone so it draws your eye's attention and is a visual reminder to look there. Keep up the strong work and can't wait to see the next one.

[@broncobabeadventures4316]

Thats a great idea- thank you. Your video advise has been so helpful! And nope he kept the doors, including the metal info tag on the drivers door. After I said no to paying him another $400 he straight up hung up on me. At this point I was afraid I wouldn't even get the truck back, it was at his buddies shop and I didn't know how to get there. He gave me the address finally and when I got there the keys were in the truck and he was no where to be found. Really scummy.

[@PaperBeatsRock]

@@broncobabeadventures4316 That is legitimately theft and borders on the line of grand theft auto because he is keeping a tag that has the vin. Now he is going to expect you to bend as you did before with payments. I know its a challenging situation but your going to need to stand hard on this one of he is just going to walk away with your stuff. I'm not saying going go in yelling but use tact. Don't just call, text, or email but go to his place and let him you want your door and other parts if any back. You showing up is taking the aggressive stance and show your not passive or to be push to a no. If they refuse they inform them nicely that you will be forced to report this as grand auto theft to the attorneys because they are actively stealing your vin number. If they continue to say no then they have no care or regard for you or your property and they should be held accountable. Call the police and that they stole your Items and highlight that your vehicle Vin is one of them. The local law enforcement will come out and make a case number and talk to them about their legal choice of action. Please please don't let people like this push you around. It's an adult bully situation. Don't be a victom.

[@broncobabeadventures4316]

I didn’t realize him having that tag was a big deal. I mean it knew it sucked but didn’t know to that extent. It’s tough because this all went down a week before a moved across the country, and I drove the bronco to move myself so that really compounded the stress of it all. I’m now 900 miles away from him, and this all went down in October. I just called him but his number has been disconnected 😕. I emailed, I guess I’ll have to figure something out if he doesn’t get back to me.

[@earnierosenow9834]

@@PaperBeatsRock i beleive that the body shop refusing to give her parts back is clearly a theft issue and needs to be reported to the police, this guy clearly has no intent to be nice and as bad as it is him having her vin tag is grand theft, this is now clearly a legal issue

[@rodshuffy4045]

Not sure about getting hosed, would need to know what you paid. Those screws on rear wheel humps are there to hold the wheel inner wheel house while the structural epoxy sets up. So it looks like you got new wheel houses too, along with the quarters. Its not glue holding things on its hopefully panel epoxy and a much better way to attach a quarter and wheel house. No welding so no warping. Plus epoxy prevents rusting in the future. I am doing the quarters and wheel houses now on my 78 and its a JOB and a half. The hardest part is the seam just behind the door where the quarter meets the roof section. The old quarter is tack welded up under the b-pillar and is very hard to access. A good body shop should know what is involved prior to the work though and labor cost would be approximately $1000-$2000 per side to install for quarters only. Add another $200 or $300 per side for labor on the wheel houses. Labor rates are location driven so the higher number is for high cost urban areas. The lower range is for more rural areas with less overhead. Another issue is quarter panel quality. These things are made in Taiwan or China and typically come with a little damage and do not fit very good. The body guy has to spend a lot of time making them fit somewhat good. So, my thoughts are if you paid less than $3500 for both sides, you did not get hosed. If you paid between $3500 and $4000 for both sides you did ok. If you paid more than $4500 and you live in a high labor area you did ok. If you paid more than $5000 you got hosed. Thanks for documenting your progress, its very interesting.

[@sherwoodbaker2714]

I had a similar experience with a relative as my property manager, total disaster, $7K for back rent, $1K for not paying utilities, $700 to clean and haul garbage away! Lesson learned never deal with relatives...

[@broncobabeadventures4316]

Its such a sucky lesson to learn. I kept thinking "ok whats the lesson in this" and it sucks to realize its- dont trust people :/

[@georgehorman2309]

I can’t believe that guy screwed those self taps through your fender well, very sad!!

[@broncobabeadventures4316]

I know!!

[@Boss-vd8vt]

that guy did the worse prime job i have ever seen !

[@broncobabeadventures4316]

It’s remarkably terrible

[@joewengerd7263]

Congrats on your progress so far it's going to look good. I've got a 78 bronco as well,hoping to get started on the restoration later this year. You mentioned a bronco forum,hopefully it's not on facebook,but can you give me the info please? Lol I watched the video again, You plainly say it's a Facebook group.

[@denniskwasnycia1950]

The new door you have is an after market door and there are fit problem with them. To get them to work, there has to be lots of body work to make them look good. If he is a friend of your dad's, he really should step in and take control of the situation for you. The guy that has your doors and trim, needs to give them back. Go back with another person to support you, or even the police if they give you a hard time and get your property back. All the best to you, this is sad that they would take advantage of you in this way. A true body shop and body repair person would not have done this kind of job, he is a hack!

[@broncobabeadventures4316]

True that. Its tricky because this all went down a week before I moved across the country so hes now 900 miles away

[@605BOLT]

Damn. It always comes out of left field when people who are friends or at least friends of friends turn into sketchy people. Not great for sure but I'm sure it can all be fixed. Radius arm paint is cool.

[@broncobabeadventures4316]

Thank you and I totally agree. If you keep watching you’ll see we got his mistakes fixed :)

[@broncoviejo78]

Heck yeah!! 👍🏻👊🏻 keep up the good work. Let the haters keep hating….

[@wisenber]

The thing with trade is that both parties have to take the same level pride in their work while valuing the trade received.

[@grantlandneil]

I cannot believe the screws through the wheel well.

[@broncobabeadventures4316]

It’s a whole new level of fuckery.

[@sherwoodbaker2714]

@@broncobabeadventures4316 that’s putting it mildly!!!!

[@billyjennings9836]

Look into a body school for peace work. I went to school for auto body and we would do peace work (peace work=someone had a rust spot they were not sure how to fix we would do it or get them to help, need time in the paint booth, do it in one day set in the booth overnight just tone picked up the next day). Good luck and wishing you well! bj

[@broncobabeadventures4316]

Very cool! Good luck!

[@JP22488]

A little frustrating, but what a fun hobby overall!

[@broncobabeadventures4316]

Absolutely!

[@briancruise182]

Sorry about the mess your dad's friend left you, knowing everything you have to do did you give yourself a time line to get it finished? What you have done looks good what color are you going to paint

[@broncobabeadventures4316]

Well since I'm learning as I go and I dont have a shop, so I can only work when its nice outside, its slow going. I'm really anxious to paint it so I dont have this glaring eye sore reminding me I got screwed, but I'm still working on safety mechanical issues. I've gotten it to where it stops, steers and starts so thats a big improvement! And I'm planning on doing a 2 tone duraback spray paint job, or getting the free wheeling stickers.

[@botoepfer8588]

you are a Saint, God bless you

[@darrenwoodson]

What are your wheel measurements?

[@broncobabeadventures4316]

33x 10.5

[@darrenwoodson]

Thanks I was wondering on the wheels/rims are they 15x8 or 15x10

[@broncobabeadventures4316]

@@darrenwoodson 15x8. I'm planning on doing some long distance traveling with it so I wanted ones that would be good in rain

[@johnowens8105]

That poor baby Bronco…. Makes me sad to see it in that state….

[@broncobabeadventures4316]

Me too, she’s so much better now 😊

[@johnowens8105]

@@broncobabeadventures4316 your bronco is so pretty…. I’m still working on mine… good luck on your baby bronco!!!

[@campbellrafuse7960]

You got hosed big time. Good color choice tho

[@jsteinsultz2]

What did he do with your VIN plate that was on the driver's door? I would try to get that back from him for sure. Sorry he hosed you . That sucks. Keep chugging along on the Bronco! I dig the videos!

[@Greatday68]

That's not a VIN tag on the door, That is the warranty plate, And you can get a new one when you order a Marti report for the truck.

[@broncobabeadventures4316]

Yah he kept that. I was really bummed about it, I didnt know I can get a new one tho so thats encouraging.

[@broncobabeadventures4316]

Thats encouraging to hear!

[@earnierosenow9834]

@@Greatday68 false the aluminum tag on the door is a vin tag the warrantee sticker you speak of is the safety certificate and is affixed to the door jamb above the striker post ,yes you can get all of this from marti however it is the principal of it , he has her original vin tag , these vehichles only have 1 place where the vin is actually stamped in to them it is in 2 places on the passenger side frame rail

[@earnierosenow9834]

@@broncobabeadventures4316 marti-auto has reproduction doorr vin tags, and the safety certificate

[@bigworm9030]

My 2 cents, do it all yourself! Watch videos, read how to's, take your time and do it the way you want it!! No better feeling than seeing your hard work payoff when people Ooh and aah over your ride. Good luck!

[@broncobabeadventures4316]

That’s the plan! I’m almost to the point of getting it to start, stop and steer safely so now in an dig into the body stuff. And if I’m being honest, it looking cute is what I’ve been most excited about from the start 😄

[@sherwoodbaker2714]

I have similar issues, but with relatives. Sometimes people really suck! 😡

[@broncobabeadventures4316]

No doubt!

[@McHighler]

😂😂😂all that extra at the end, for nothing. Lol yeah I can relate, that bronco does need alot of work but atleast you have one. I need to get one yet, nice video

[@broncobabeadventures4316]

Hahaha I'm glad you enjoyed that

[@SmittyKitty121]

Bro, what the heck. Self-tappers??

[@broncobabeadventures4316]

I know!!! Like your trying to make my life hard at this point! Lol

[@acl8330]

Like the b4 n after pics

[@broncobabeadventures4316]

Thanks!

[@EYE_SPIDER]

Cool Bronco!!!! 💪🏼

[@Scrapy-ih7ob]

2:30 min into glad you left that person. The screws is a good ideal but poorly executed, I would get a cut off wheel if you haven't already, grind them off flush, pull the rubber mat back of course first, and for extra measure I am am doing the same method cause I don't have spot welder(preferred method of attaching panels), but put I do have Mig welder, spot weld on top each of those screws that u cut off keep them from backing out. if still need gas door , I Have spare gas door, i can send you if want it? , yep doing my quarter panel this week same side, my door post was crunched, no welding till i get MY "MARTI" vin decal. most of those runs get some wet dry sandpaper from auto parts store sand them out till there smooth. it be fine if aint going paint soon get some flat clear enamel paint over to seal primer, primer absorbs moisture, prevent further rust damage. Looks good.

[@broncobabeadventures4316]

Great advise- thank you! I’m getting close to being ready to get to all that body work. I’ll post a video 😊 I think my gas door will work but if not I’ll hit you up!

[@georgegouvas27]

YOU GOT SCREWED, BIG TIME.

[@albertoacosta6788]

The worst type of people that do work is no estimates, people that can’t look at a vehicles especially just body work and don’t see what can be expected than it’s just I need ex amount over and over and work comes out mediocre better to just do the work yourself you’ll save thousands and feel better learning or trying yourself

[@pipj14u2nv1]

Some friend your dad has or should I say some dad you have to let his "friend" do you like that.

[@georgegouvas27]

Goodnight

[@crismitchell3382]

I'd for sure take it to bare metal and inspect what he did. No telling what nightmare is under there that could ruin a couple grand worth of paint in the future.

[@broncobabeadventures4316]

Ok but Imma pull the trans first tho

[@crismitchell3382]

@@broncobabeadventures4316 smart and pretty, your boyfriend is a lucky guy.

[@broncobabeadventures4316]

😘😘

[@Greatday68]

Sorry to hear you were cheated on that bad body work, And you wont see receipt adding up to what he charged for materials, Even if he used the best panel bond, filler and sand paper it would not add up to that, My suggestion for the body work is sand it down and see how he secured those panels and go from there. If it was me I'd buy a cheep flux core welder and a grinder, and the wheel wells I'd remove one screw and weld the hole closed then the next screw and so on until all the holes are filled. I don't know if you can buy a new speedometer sensor but I do know the factory one goes on the speedometer cable under the dash When I installed cruse control on one of my truck years back I replaced the whole speedometer cable with one for cruse control ,

[@broncobabeadventures4316]

Thank you for the advise, I was planning on welding like you said. I've had mixed input as to wether I should sand it down and see if I need to fix it or just guide coat and block it. The rational with that is I could spend thousands more to fix whats under there and thats a thread I don't want to pull on. Its hard to know how far to take the restoration sometimes. And as to the speed sensor, this truck has a clip in spedocable and the ones that go to the cruise control and screw in so it wouldn't work.

[@Greatday68]

@@broncobabeadventures4316 I 'd start with blocking it and seeing how bad it is first, Filler and sand paper is cheap, Just buy quality filler, and a quality dust mask and eye protection, That dust gets everywhere. Doing it your self is much cheaper then paying someone.

[@tombuer7708]

@@broncobabeadventures4316 It doesn't appear to me that your bodyman replaced the quarter panels.. maybe he did wheel house patches over the wheels but did not replace the entire quarter panel from what I see. I agree the door that was replaced is an aftermarket door. And yes, you need to get the metal tag back if at all possible and the interior trim. I am working on a 1978 Bronco myself off and on.. I replaced both the doors on mine using from a F-150 pickup that were rust free. But to put those screws into inside of back is an absolute fail. The runs in the primer are ridiculous as well.. Sorry to have to say it, your dad steered you wrong with his "friend"..

[@CA.papaBear]

AND THE GUY DOESNT KNOW HOW TO REMOVE PAINT?? Bruh.

[@ronjones4863]

Wanna know the difference between your dad and me? The boby man's hands are not broken, and he still has his house! I was sorta joking, but HE would not know that. FACT!

[@mikeckenour]

Wow that is the worst hack job I've ever seen...I have my own bronco project going on and I did my own bodywork...if I can do it you definitely can ...my advice is only buy quality paints primers and fillers.. I learned the hard way ..I get emotional every time I see a sheet of sand paper these days lollol

[@broncobabeadventures4316]

Hahaha!! Thanks for the advice, and thanks for watching 😃

[@plandsurvival7144]

Good work isn't cheap, cheap work isn't good. You went with the cheap route and got what you paid for. Its awful work he did but you should have seen his prior work and gotten everything in writing even if you barter. Good luck.

[@georgegouvas27]

cruise control,sucks,need to just pay attention to the road.

[@MM-he2iq]

:O

[@fredyuricic]

Unsolicited Advice... please Do Not Buy a Flux Core Welder! I’ve seen Many Promising Projects(car & other) Stopped Dead; All Hope & Motivation Lost, Due to these Crappy Excuses for a Welding Machine! If a decent Welder( uses Inert gas as a shield) is not in you budget, Find a Friend or Neighbor who is willing To Share ( Tools & Techniques). I know of at least one🤠

[@broncobabeadventures4316]

I always appreciate the “unsolicited” advise from you! lol! And thank you- I would love that!