Ford Escort MK1 Restoration Project, 2 pack paint with a brush or spray, which works?

[@RussellLord]

dave you really are the true muck and bullitts man .no thrills just basic tools common sense and utterly fantastic .I'm sure everyone will agree that what you do is just 100% the best you tube page there is

[@DavesGarageuk]

Thanks Russell, you're a real gentleman.

[@ramalama9650]

Always a pleasure to watch! Halfords, get sponsoring this man!

[@DavesGarageuk]

😊😊

[@benjohnson7170]

That white definitely has a pleasing tone. Great stuff man....

[@DavesGarageuk]

It is nice 😊😊

[@bensclassicbodywork]

Hi Dave, nice video, love Mk1 and 2 Escorts. Some notes on spraying 2k paint. You mentioned you mixed the paint thick and thought that would help with paint runs but the opposite is true. The thinner it is the less likely you are to get runs, this is because it goes on dryer as the thinner evaporates in the transfer and it also evaporates quicker once on the car, drying the paint before it can run. A viscosity cup is a brilliant tool and the data sheet will tell you what the viscosity should be. This allows you to spray in any temperature and get the same results. We know that paint flows faster in summer so measuring the viscosity means more thinner in winter but as long as the viscosity is the same it will go on the same and you won't get runs. (with some practice). I brush too in awkward places. Regards Ben

[@DavesGarageuk]

Brilliant help, thank you 😊

[@martinmaxwell2004]

Dave . 2k paint needs a flash off time between coats , so-- light dust coat-- wait 10/ 15 mins , then second coat should be a dry coat - let flash off 15/20 - then a full wet coat. Also remember that this paint flows out as its drying. Hope this helps.

[@jannekuusisto9038]

Hello from Finland.... Excellent work again. Nice to follow.. Thanks...

[@danstimelessclassics5899]

Cool tee-shirt Dave ❤

[@robinstewart4729]

Nice work Dave.

[@jntcustomcars]

Looking great dave.

[@bigsquatchsasfoot1964]

You know When your putting on the paint your certainly going forward big time Dave . I love your basic bloke in the garage approach shows us you don’t need millions to do it . Nice job mate looks great it’s come such a long way 👍

[@DavesGarageuk]

Thanks 👍😊😊

[@ianhands9289]

Dave, I have not long found your channel, and I think it's brilliant. "Time for a bacon sandwich." 😂😂 Keep up the great work

[@DavesGarageuk]

Thanks and welcome

[@andycook5607]

Great progress dave and a cool gift from russel. your giving so many of us more confidence for our own escort builds look forwards to your next video mate

[@DavesGarageuk]

Thank Andy, that's good to hear 😊😊

[@upthereddevils]

Great job Dave 👍

[@marty3469]

I enjoyed that video Dave, maybe borrow a diesel heater or similar before painting to get the shell up to a decent temp which helps lessen runs. Also a 1.2 or 1.4 nozzle to help atomize paint better. Great work as usual 👍

[@DavesGarageuk]

Great idea

[@kevtherev891]

diesel heater puts out an oil film in the air ,particles ,no use for spraying paint as youl get the panels spotted with oil pins then paint wont take properly ,i use gas superser to heat the garage on the fullest setting

[@davidbellerby7084]

Dave i have watched you from day one and the progress and work manship is fantastic you should be so proud look forwatd to next video happy easter dave

[@Welder-y5x]

Thumbs up for brush painting a nice thick layer of paint and not a thin sprayed layer, well that's how they used to do it when coach painting, i think spray painting can be a bit wasteful seeing as a lot of the paint goes into the air and not on the car, and when it does go into the air it dries and becomes a dust that you can get back on the car, catch 22,

[@DavesGarageuk]

I absolutely agree, I've rollered/brushed 3 projects before, VW T2 Bay, Mini, Beetle, all came out a treat, but that was with Rustoleum paint. Goes so much further too..

[@Welder-y5x]

@@DavesGarageuk defiantly use a roller, i used one with red oxide on very pitted lorry parts, a nice thick layer, it worked a treat, i then gave the parts a spay can of red oxide on top for a smooth finish before a chassis black coat, the important thing it got paint on the parts and not on the floor. let us know your results as painting is an expensive and contentious subject and if we can make it easier for the shed restorer with little if no equipment then all to the good.

[@superloopy24v]

Nice to see some more progress. I don't know anything useful about painting but I know the right man to do any I need to a very high standard, so I don't need to learn🙂

[@geraldogara5098]

Another superb job the escort is coming along bit by bit keep going 👍👍👍👍💥💥💥

[@stu2427]

Great job going to be lovely. But think the lime green would of looked the bollox. 👍

[@DavesGarageuk]

Russel Lord has a lime green one

[@stu2427]

Just watched his video now. A mark 1 purist love it

[@TheDaf95xf]

Morning Dave. Already going from your mig welding gun in your hand to a paint brush 😂 Looks really good 👍🏻 keep the videos coming cheers Stevie 😎

[@Bikedealer4U]

Interesting video, I never thought of brush painting

[@SimpsonsClassics]

Like you say this is such a nice part of a build! Big step forward. 😊

[@DavesGarageuk]

It really is!

[@RetroCarsReborn]

Now that went well im definitely stealing this idea 🤣🤣 iv also stayed away from 2pack paint but the result in fantastic 👏 👌

[@DavesGarageuk]

You can do it!

[@philtucker1224]

Nice work Dave, the brushing seemed more successful as I’m guessing your garage was fairly cool. (I expect spraying works better in a heated spray booth). Good solid work buddy! 👍👍👍

[@DavesGarageuk]

Thanks Phil, I'll have to get me one of them 😉

[@micktuck5377]

Looks a great finish brushed on Dave should sponge roller well 👍🏻 another brilliant video.

[@stevenwilson2786]

Great video thanks Dave love the way you try different ways off doing job car looking great

[@kevtherev891]

hi dave thanks for your vid on spraying and or brush painting 2k paint , ive just brush painted the underside with diamond white 2k using only ,paint and hardner no thinners and it came out perfect with no runs , it was painted over gravitex just like you did , never knew you could brush paint 2k mate and it seems to dry really quickly too thanks again dave keep the first class vids coming

[@DavesGarageuk]

Ah brilliant 👏 glad that worked for you as well 😊

[@richierees4251]

Hi Dave. I met you yesterday morning lol. Its coming on great.👍

[@DavesGarageuk]

Hi, again 😊

[@Nathanmorganmk1escort]

Looking good now Dave want be long see the light at end of the tunnel. Gutted on holiday 1st may want be able see u at show. 😢 Im really thinking white on my mk1 too lol have good weekend 👍🏻

[@tlsc2006]

You can get mixing cups with the mix ratios on the side to make it easier for you no scales needed 👍

[@DavesGarageuk]

Good tip!

[@rickwilliams1505]

Good video

[@deanmarskell1518]

Excellent work and video as always Dave coming along nicely with the restoration love the channel and what you do Keep up the amazing work fella ♥️👌

[@DavesGarageuk]

Thanks 👍

[@GeeenJ]

looks good just takes time and practice to get use to sprayin 2k paints i learnt doing the acrylic paints back in the early 80's not keen on base coats and clear there a nightmare her in aust they use the early capri rear diffs and move the shockies to the inside of the wheel tubs when they use the mark 1 escorts for rallying

[@craigladewig3158]

I've also used the foam roller , also works very well

[@DavesGarageuk]

Definitely on my to do list

[@djohh3057]

You don't want to be breathing air from a 'normal' compressor - it will have some oil in it !, you need a oil free compressor and some proper filters to make it breathable.

[@DavesGarageuk]

A few have mentioned this, I appreciate everyone's concern. The things in the bin 😊😊

[@danielstephenson886]

I find 2k is really good to work with. It's alot more forgiving than basecoat. But I have not tried cellulose. The thing with 2k is you can apply it with anything. If it has plenty coats on you can flat them back to a good finish. So you can get a good mirror finish paint job with a roller if you spend time flatting it back and polishing. Kinda like a good grinder is a good welder 😉. And also wetting the floor helps keep dust to a minimum when painting

[@DavesGarageuk]

Cheers Dan, thats what makes me a good welder 🤣🤣😉

[@danielstephenson886]

@DavesGarageuk yeah same here also depending on your local shop I find most stuff is cheaper online and the mixing cups are relatively inexpensive

[@sidsxr3irestoration]

Great video Dave looked all white to me. Think you could of done with warmer weather for the paint. It did brush nice looks 👌 👍

[@DavesGarageuk]

Thanks 👍

[@Squintanditsmint]

I regularly reach for a brush or roller. The finish isn't so nice with a roller but fine for areas you can't see. My escort I rollered the inside and out side of the roof, its covered both sides so no worries. Find the mini foam rollers are the best. Also just brushed on epoxy primer on the vans inner wings, no way to spray in there.

[@DavesGarageuk]

Thanks pal 😊

[@MegaReddevil71]

As your not in a booth I would say 10 mins minimum between coats use a fast hardener I usually leave 10 mins and iam in a heated spray booth

[@psycho3344]

Top vid dave how much 2k paint did it take to complete the underside?

[@DavesGarageuk]

Just less than 1ltr

[@jamesentwistle8258]

Ermine white in my opinion the best colour for a mk 1 escort

[@DavesGarageuk]

I agree 😊😊

[@kevtherev891]

i just used white gravitex mate no need for 2k then , your making a gr8 job though dave

[@DavesGarageuk]

I want the underside to be the same white, you know, in case I roll it 🤣😉

[@pbysome]

Plastic mixing cups have the ratios on the side.

[@antmk2dreaming614]

looking good! i had a klone axle on my old mk2 escort, with a wild xflow in it, it took a lot of abuse, outlived 2 gear boxes. possibly stronger than an english axle, the main problem tho is getting spares and there is no LSD option for the klone that i am aware of.

[@DavesGarageuk]

That's good to know, thanks, I could weld the diff 😉

[@lestercranmer2631]

Dave, any left over 2k I put in a jar in the freezer lasts a good couple of weeks, get some proper mesh paint filters, its amazing the crap they catch, like crust hardener from around the lid.

[@DavesGarageuk]

Thanks Lester, 😊

[@lestercranmer2631]

@@DavesGarageuk back in the old days we used to strain paint with old stockings 🦵😄 but that was signwriting enamel.

[@mykswappedescortmk2]

Compressed air straight from the tank is dangerous mate, it has oil particles from the pump. Unless you have the correct air fed mask filtration you’re better off with a good half mask in all honesty. Great work as always though.

[@DavesGarageuk]

Thanks pal, you're not the first to point that out, silly me, thankfully I've hardly used that set up, so in the bin it goes. I'll order myself a filtered mask 😷

[@uncensored5104]

Is there much in the way of classic car meets & shows in the summer months in your neck of the woods Dave? Im moving to Carmarthenshire next year, so would be good to know what's about!

[@DavesGarageuk]

There is a few, the only one I get time to go to is the Swansea Singleton Show in the summer. Check out SHVR website for more show info.

[@uncensored5104]

@@DavesGarageuk ​ Thanks for that, I will take a look 👍

[@leeevans4635]

I painted my own mk1 with 2k I used a cheapish Sealy gun 1.4 nozzle 👍

[@DavesGarageuk]

Good to know thanks 😊

[@sutt16v]

Nice one Dave. Enjoying your videos. How long was the 2k usable while brushing? I think I’m going to go this route on the underside.

[@DavesGarageuk]

30mins seemed to be the time before it started changing, so small batches at a time, although one fella has commented saying that it can be brushed without the activator, I'll have to look into this.

[@sutt16v]

@@DavesGarageuk thanks Dave 👍🏼

[@neilwharton720]

You should use proper filters for the mask the one you are using is not for your lungs you will make yourself ill they do very fine particle and charcoal filters for breathing.👍

[@DavesGarageuk]

Thank you Neil, many have pointed out it's a terrible idea. 😊 it's in the bin. I'll order a proper mask.

[@paulpaintshop103]

​@@DavesGarageuk 3M do really good disposable paint masks for around £30, I use one every month usually

[@ModernClassics81]

Great video Dave, I can’t wait to be at the stage of painting my car. I’ll definitely give brushing the 2k paint on on the underside of my car.

[@DavesGarageuk]

Worked better than I expected 😊

[@jamesward5721]

Genfit do both a black & a white enamel paint. Either are about as good as boggo black or white get without going 2 pack. Both are a bit like Halfords weld-through primer - they ought be crap, but oddly are not - they are strangely excellent. I'm unsure what primer any money buys that is better than Halfords weld-through primer (I've not found one) - or any black/white paint that is better than the boggo Genfit stuff straight out the can.

[@DavesGarageuk]

Just Googled that stuff, never heard of it before, looks like agricultural enamel, so I guess has to be tough, I'll see if i can order a tin of black, it'll be good for the suspension etc. Ta.

[@jamesward5721]

@@DavesGarageuk Either get Genfit or Tractol - Tractol is good too & often better priced. Tractol matt black is really good for axles, suspension, tie rods and the like - it's more subtle & also very tough. I use it on LR stuff, lasts very well. :-)

[@johnchristie8060]

You should have kept your gun father away and used mixing cups. To get the correct volume of paint actuator and thinners.

[@TonyVanRooyen-s5m]

Using Barum engines intro 🤔🤔

[@DavesGarageuk]

Really? Looks a lot like my garage?

[@barriecole2488]

I would seriously throw that home made mask , breathing air from a compressor with out a proper oil vapour filter is certainly not recommended !

[@DavesGarageuk]

Ha, good point 🤣😬 I shall listen to your wise words 😊

[@scottloder7976]

dude, regarding your improvised face mask, unless your shop compressor is oilless you should definitely run some sort of air filter or your lungs will not be happy. cheers

[@DavesGarageuk]

You are not the first to mention this, thanks 😊, I've stopped being stupid now 😉

[@thehutx]

buy good spray gun. you wont get runs then. just painted mine

[@Bikedealer4U]

What is your recommendation for a good spray gun please?

[@thehutx]

@@Bikedealer4U I bought aiwata az3 was about 120 quid but we'll worth it. Look them up on youtube

[@slimshady6718]

Any spray gun can leave a nice finish Runs were probably caused buy the car being cold to the touch !

[@mykswappedescortmk2]

@@Bikedealer4U Devilbiss FLG5 can use fluid tips from 1.2 up to 2.0 (maybe 1.8?) so you can use it for primer and clear/base/2k gloss (must be cleaned out thoroughly if you’re using it for all applications). They’re cheap at a snip over £100 and will last for a very very long time if kept clean. In my opinion it’s the best gun in that price range because it sprays almost like a much more expensive gun but has more versatility than most others.

[@Bikedealer4U]

@@mykswappedescortmk2 thanks for that, being a complete beginner at painting this all helps, it’s a bit scary with the fumes and the need for air fed masks. Is this just with two pack

[@peterepeat7066]

That's really toxic shit Dave should wear a mask hopefully you don't end up with pleurisy in the hospital 😮

[@DavesGarageuk]

😫

[@coggsy3036]

You be better off putting that paint on with a catapult or pea shooter be a lot more uniformed,🤦‍♂️🤣🤣

[@DavesGarageuk]

😫🤣🤣

[@coggsy3036]

@@DavesGarageuk but seriously Dave you going to damage your health even just brushing that 2k shit on,it’s so carcinogenic it will kill you quicker than a bullet if you keep on breathing that in😶‍🌫️,you’ll never take it to the singleton park event.and your compressor is just sucking all that over spray into its tank and feeding it to that homemade mask 😷,I know you are a tight Welshman but you can’t put a price on your health. 🤐