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Ford Escort RS vs Focus RS: Which is the better RS?

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7 жыл бұрын

Peter Anderson puts the Escort RS up against the Focus RS to see which one is the better RS.
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Пікірлер: 191
@stefankoles
@stefankoles 7 жыл бұрын
escort every day
@jameshunsrao
@jameshunsrao 6 жыл бұрын
stefan Hang. Pretty. .
@AMindInOverdrive
@AMindInOverdrive 6 жыл бұрын
and twice on a Sunday
@elmadrigal3071
@elmadrigal3071 7 жыл бұрын
cossie for me
@olly3187
@olly3187 7 жыл бұрын
Escort cosworth for me
@colinmorand129
@colinmorand129 7 жыл бұрын
Escort for me.Too me the focus is just another souless hot hatch like the vxr ,golf etc.
@AW_2000
@AW_2000 7 жыл бұрын
Mr C Mr C The Escort understeered like mad when powering out of corners. The Escort will however be much more involving than the Focus. You had to be a good driver to handle an Escort, not so much the Focus.
@85MasterV
@85MasterV 7 жыл бұрын
+Mr C Mr C You obviously haven't driven one.
@EugVR6
@EugVR6 2 жыл бұрын
I personally would have the Escort but the Focus would be the better car by miles. A good example of this was on 5th Gear, the new 3 cylinder Fiesta ST blew the doors of an Escort Cosworth.
@joaoguimaraes4993
@joaoguimaraes4993 Жыл бұрын
That garage is an dream.....even a mark1 is there.
@bneyes1214
@bneyes1214 3 жыл бұрын
If I had to choose one, it’s the focus.
@kevoshaw4184
@kevoshaw4184 6 жыл бұрын
Old School all day 💪👌
@riccccccardo
@riccccccardo 7 жыл бұрын
Love the escort I had a black mark 6 si with mondeo body kit, induction kit, back box and so much more......
@jpwilliams5264
@jpwilliams5264 7 жыл бұрын
4:40, is this subliminal advertising from ford.? There was literally 5 fords focus in the span of 20 seconds lol
@EssOneFive
@EssOneFive 6 жыл бұрын
It was filmed around the Ford plant, so naturally ;)
@barnsyrsoc9289
@barnsyrsoc9289 5 жыл бұрын
OMG NI92 FTW I saw that exact cossie
@jamesclarke4370
@jamesclarke4370 5 жыл бұрын
Escort cosworth everyday and twice on s Sunday although the RS Focus is a superb car the Escort just has it for me .
@toothfairy2353
@toothfairy2353 6 жыл бұрын
Amazing the escort is allowed out on damp roads. Will need a real good clean underneath to keep it mint
@Ferr88
@Ferr88 5 жыл бұрын
Que belleza de autos x dios, acá en Uruguay solo se ven en videos y fotos, que pena... me encantaría ver uno personalmente
@kristianbrandt3012
@kristianbrandt3012 6 жыл бұрын
And that's why cars are amazing. You'd have to be a complete imbecile to take the Cossie over the hot Focus, but I reckon everyone here would.
@bshah4831
@bshah4831 7 жыл бұрын
Escort or 3 Focus RS cars? When you consider the current costs.
@robertgash4555
@robertgash4555 6 жыл бұрын
so have you got the address of that garage?
@kinglee735
@kinglee735 2 ай бұрын
U read my mind lol
@shanewaller2864
@shanewaller2864 3 жыл бұрын
I been in the heritage centre a good few times and it blows my mind every time ,but as the cosworth owner with over 400 bhp on tap ,it would always be the cossie for me 👍
@gazukroberts4690
@gazukroberts4690 5 жыл бұрын
Would you expect to compete with your own dad in a fight? This is what I feel like I'm watching
@bonk352
@bonk352 2 жыл бұрын
Lol
@TimRobson
@TimRobson 7 жыл бұрын
Terrific stuff, Pete!
@mikebickers4297
@mikebickers4297 6 жыл бұрын
This isnt the proper escort cosworth, this one is the later YBP model which isn't as cosworth intended it to be. It has ford revised cylinder head, a much much smaller turbo and a Ford developed engine managment system which Your lucky to get more than 300 bhp out of... The escort to have is the earlier YBT model which has all the bells and whistles fitted not the model in this videos designed so my grandmar could easily drive it.
@Orcawhale1
@Orcawhale1 6 жыл бұрын
If only you watched the video at 1:40..
@robelvin2612
@robelvin2612 5 жыл бұрын
Ford had to do it for emissions, the smaller turbo for less lag and driveability and the small turbo is the better engine to. The plenum is so much better, and it has oil spray jets under the pistons for cooling. They also all have the same ford block.
@bigjohnfury5662
@bigjohnfury5662 5 жыл бұрын
@@robelvin2612 the water pumps the same young Rob too
@bonk352
@bonk352 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting, perhaps the 1996 Ford Escort RS Cosworth is not so much "old school" then? I prefer the earlier one too!
@interruptor
@interruptor 4 жыл бұрын
Model-T RS for me.
@luigilanotte6051
@luigilanotte6051 6 жыл бұрын
where is this garage
@gandhi1078
@gandhi1078 6 жыл бұрын
Luigi Lanotte Dagenham
@endzenju
@endzenju 6 жыл бұрын
3:09 WHO FARTED!?
@kronos350
@kronos350 6 жыл бұрын
The cameramen for sure
@EssOneFive
@EssOneFive 4 жыл бұрын
I actually did the filming for this vid and from memory I think I did actually let one go around that time.
@cyprusst
@cyprusst 7 жыл бұрын
why the speedo disconnected?
@tonefiesta
@tonefiesta 7 жыл бұрын
so the milage doesn't go up ;)
@lewis72
@lewis72 6 жыл бұрын
It was built by Karmann of Germany, as in the same Karmann as Karmann Ghia.
@tracktimevideos5164
@tracktimevideos5164 7 жыл бұрын
Love the Cosworth but the Focus is a better car in every measurable way. Nostalgia means that old cars are generally more highly regarded.
@tracktimevideos5164
@tracktimevideos5164 7 жыл бұрын
Kev the Rammer, it seems that you are approximately 12 years old. Enjoy half term, back to school Monday. Perhaps you neglected to notice what this video is about.
@tracktimevideos5164
@tracktimevideos5164 7 жыл бұрын
You seem rather intellectually challenged. It's a shame about that, it must really hinder your life. Good luck with your GCSE's, it appears you need it.
@tracktimevideos5164
@tracktimevideos5164 7 жыл бұрын
Impressive grammar. Do you kiss you mummy with that mouth?
@tracktimevideos5164
@tracktimevideos5164 7 жыл бұрын
Also I'm pretty sure that you will find that when resorting to swearing and insults you have lost the argument, you managed that with your 1st post. You are doing a sterling job of it and me and the lads at work are really enjoying your insightful posts.
@bigjohnfury5662
@bigjohnfury5662 7 жыл бұрын
Phwoooooar somthing stinks it's that fuckin clown maestro and not even the turbo mg
@1308wayne
@1308wayne 6 жыл бұрын
My favourite everyday what a car
@davarosmith1334
@davarosmith1334 5 жыл бұрын
I would definitely have the escort!
@FalconXE302
@FalconXE302 7 жыл бұрын
Speedo wasn't working in the Escort...!
@theant9821
@theant9821 7 жыл бұрын
one of these cars is an rs, the other is a fast car with an rs badge. rallye sport has a meaning, without the motorsport bred into the design building an rs is not possible no matter how good it is.
@slightlybetteratmemesthany6526
@slightlybetteratmemesthany6526 6 жыл бұрын
rally*
@theant9821
@theant9821 6 жыл бұрын
72dnegel ehT ford rallye sport is the spelling. (rs fords first came from Germany, and the spelling didn't change). we didn't watch the audi sport four on the telly. it was the audi sport Quattro (same principle)
@Landybandy1
@Landybandy1 6 жыл бұрын
Damien Leggatt erm the important was not the letters RS but a word COSWORTH was everything. That is why the escort wins hands down every time.
@MahyarJavadi
@MahyarJavadi 5 жыл бұрын
Do you guys realise how obnoxious you sound?
@theant9821
@theant9821 5 жыл бұрын
@@MahyarJavadi imagine you have worked hard to earn something, and then when you retire your replacement receives the same credit and decorations before even starting the job. Why do some leave a legacy and others don't, ford are pretending their car has a legacy to leave, and it hasn't even started work, still.
@alpaslanakpinar557
@alpaslanakpinar557 5 жыл бұрын
Focus RS Current telnology Ford Escort RS is still very exciting
@bobbythompson3544
@bobbythompson3544 6 жыл бұрын
The RS truck that passed you " slow coach"!
@stevenwilson5737
@stevenwilson5737 6 жыл бұрын
Has it got parking sensors and a iPod USB port that escort? Is the escort replacing the focus? My granny used to drive this costworth escort in the 90s, she crashed it into a fresh’n’low milk truck, all the milk filled the costworth escorts seats so she burned it in back garden on bonfire night, we used to jump on that big wing thing it was fun then!
@assasins5023
@assasins5023 5 жыл бұрын
Thats me bloody dreamcar
@garymarshall4838
@garymarshall4838 4 жыл бұрын
Escort It's a no brainer Focus is a soulless tool
@chaleowin7732
@chaleowin7732 7 жыл бұрын
The Escort RS is a much cooler choice. The Focus RS is the smarter choice.
@bigjohnfury5662
@bigjohnfury5662 7 жыл бұрын
Cha Leowin Yehhh coz the focus could win a rally championship like the cosworths did.... you tit
@ChevroletastragtcOPC
@ChevroletastragtcOPC 7 жыл бұрын
Actually, and shamefully the escort cosworth did never won the world rally championship, not because it didn't deserved it tho.
@bigjohnfury5662
@bigjohnfury5662 7 жыл бұрын
Mar Dema it won the European rally championship ,the European Rallycross Championship ,and more national championships than any other car of the era.. it's also the car that Jolly Club who ran Martini Deltas used to win the Italian Rally Championship after the Deltas were past it due to the escort being faster
@chaleowin7732
@chaleowin7732 7 жыл бұрын
I would trade my built EVO X for a nice Escort MKx...I really would.
@EugVR6
@EugVR6 2 жыл бұрын
@@bigjohnfury5662 The Escort never won the WRC!
@opexo
@opexo 5 жыл бұрын
The Escort RS ACTUALLY raced and won in Rallie Sport. The Focus RS did not. The Focus just bares a badge. Bye
@jamesclarke4370
@jamesclarke4370 5 жыл бұрын
Did Colin Macrae and Nicky Grist not feature in the WRC in a Focus RS forgive me if I am wrong .
@Philkillone
@Philkillone 4 жыл бұрын
Escort all day long 👍👍😍😍😍
@waynusp1664
@waynusp1664 6 жыл бұрын
Ahhh poor wittle Aussie is cold...it looks like a lovly british summers day ya big nancy boy!
@zerogeewhiz
@zerogeewhiz 6 жыл бұрын
Normally I love a London winter, but that day really was very cold. The cooling pond nearby was frozen over despite warm water coming out :-)
@fleetcaretrucks
@fleetcaretrucks 7 жыл бұрын
it's been about 5 years since 50,000£ was $100,000 it's actually about $65,000 .
@TheAndostro
@TheAndostro 5 жыл бұрын
Escort for live even "normal" 1.6 version (i'm owner)
@divljacina1
@divljacina1 5 жыл бұрын
Is this even a real question....?
@bluntyr5gtt
@bluntyr5gtt 5 жыл бұрын
its quite simple really if you want a car for nostalgia the escos wins, if you want a car thats better in every single way other than that then the mk3 focus rs wins. btw i grew up with the escos as my most desirable car.
@Drquimbaymatumbo
@Drquimbaymatumbo 5 жыл бұрын
If you want a car that's better in every single way, BUY A LANCER EVOLUTION!
@philmann7081
@philmann7081 6 жыл бұрын
Cossie would be my choice
@dbratboy92
@dbratboy92 7 жыл бұрын
Talk about car porn. Just the quick glimpse of that garage.
@paulointonio6847
@paulointonio6847 4 жыл бұрын
Escort RS 😍😍😍😍
@cotswoldclassiccarrestorat8396
@cotswoldclassiccarrestorat8396 6 жыл бұрын
Well done Ford on the new RS, they finally had the balls to build it....Oh so overdue!!! However its against a legend that people just love, and we all know the potential of a tuned Cossie to be one the best street weapons in the world! I love them both but cars generally were just a lot cooler back then, there were less models, not so commercial or non-descript so for me its the Cossie with a bigger turbo!!
@Drquimbaymatumbo
@Drquimbaymatumbo 5 жыл бұрын
Cant see where the term "legend" comes from???? It never won a wrc, and literally about 8 races over 6 years, so all in all another poor effort by Ford (same as rs200)
@betterlookingthanyouravera9619
@betterlookingthanyouravera9619 7 жыл бұрын
cossie all 1st every time I like to drive a car and not have computer interference too much focus is heavy too
@geoffwills8131
@geoffwills8131 5 жыл бұрын
Cosworth every day of the week the focus is a pretend RS, all fast fords have had tuning house or outside engerneering input from the 60s lotus cortina onwards
@victorstoulm3356
@victorstoulm3356 5 жыл бұрын
Escort Looks much better, and this 3d version ....... I wish Focus RS MK2 AWD ......
@andytrimbee2599
@andytrimbee2599 6 жыл бұрын
Escort Cosworth all day long
@tino9116
@tino9116 6 жыл бұрын
integrale the best
@bigjohnfury5662
@bigjohnfury5662 5 жыл бұрын
That's why jolly club who ran Martini deltas ditched them for cosworths then is it you bum
@sharpsdoublerifle1439
@sharpsdoublerifle1439 6 жыл бұрын
So this piss'es me off. I waited forever for Ford to finally give the US a RS version of the Focus. When they finally said that they were going to it was only going to be the ST and not and RS...never an RS. So I spent my wad on the ST..great car, but NOT an RS. Then two years later they announce the new RS and we can get it in the US... Friggin bastards! The value of my ST plummeted, and I can get nothing for it in a trade in on an RS.
@Drquimbaymatumbo
@Drquimbaymatumbo 5 жыл бұрын
That's died for you. Bunch of sneaky wankers!
@matthewling3293
@matthewling3293 3 жыл бұрын
Focus RS for me!
@bonk352
@bonk352 2 жыл бұрын
Basically, the mk 3 Ford Focus RS is the equivalent car today as the 1996 Escort RS Cosworth. I think the Focus RS is better value, more up to date, faster but still has character which is essential in a fast ford.
@jonathanbell3676
@jonathanbell3676 6 жыл бұрын
speedo is disconnected !!
@karlpatten5114
@karlpatten5114 5 жыл бұрын
Escort all day long. Sadly values of these have skyrocketed (there is a mint one advertised at £91000 at present).
@guy4469
@guy4469 6 жыл бұрын
dont know much about fords is this the same as my toyota prius looks the same .
@Sean-mr3vb
@Sean-mr3vb 5 жыл бұрын
Just your average rs200 in the background.
@iBroter
@iBroter 7 жыл бұрын
Escord
@creeker81
@creeker81 6 жыл бұрын
How does 50 thousand equal 100 grand?!?!
@woooster71
@woooster71 4 жыл бұрын
I just think the Mk3 Focus RS has had its RS DNA watered down far to much.. So EsCos FTW
@CrH_1993
@CrH_1993 6 жыл бұрын
Old Ford over new ford all day every day.
@sxeeverardo
@sxeeverardo 6 жыл бұрын
Escort looks sooo much cooler
@bonk352
@bonk352 2 жыл бұрын
Not compared to the mk 3 Escort though.
@scottlee2421
@scottlee2421 6 жыл бұрын
Keep ya bugattis n ferraris....
@ilibertywalkedmybaconct4445
@ilibertywalkedmybaconct4445 7 жыл бұрын
Focus RS for me 😀
@barra245t2
@barra245t2 7 жыл бұрын
_That_Croatian_Petrolhead_ c'mon man check out the mobil one rally car.
@ilibertywalkedmybaconct4445
@ilibertywalkedmybaconct4445 7 жыл бұрын
Caleb Bilton. i did...
@barra245t2
@barra245t2 7 жыл бұрын
_That_Croatian_Petrolhead_ pretty awesom.i fell in love with this car when i was 10.we live next to maramarua forest,used to be a stage in wrc.ari vatinen and the team did there service at a barn on our farm..
@ilibertywalkedmybaconct4445
@ilibertywalkedmybaconct4445 7 жыл бұрын
Caleb Bilton Wow...
@orangeman9237
@orangeman9237 5 жыл бұрын
Ill take the Ford Escort
@rrplanb4030
@rrplanb4030 6 жыл бұрын
Escort is more reliable and it's value will increase. I doubt the new RS price will ever increase.
@bonk352
@bonk352 2 жыл бұрын
Well, the mk 3 focus RS has just started to increase in value this year and this is very promising. In the future, it will most likely be remembered as one of the last "old school"(modern classic) racing hatches with similar attributes to the Escort RS Cosworth. No doubt, there are quite a number of people who remember the 1996 Escort RS Cosworth very fondly, and rightly so. It was indeed an excellent car for the nineties and these cars were highly sought after a while after. Today it remains a unique modern classic car, yet today, of those that remain are generally modified examples, some good, and some not so good. Obviously, an original unmodified example usually commands the highest value. People in the future will probably compare the Ford Focus mk 3 RS as being much more similar to the 1996 Escort RS in comparison as to how we see the cars currently. It's interesting because now we can see there's quite a different between the two vehicles and this is mainly down to technology. Die hards also tend to see the Escort RS Cosworth as being greatly superior (which it isn't), presumably because of less insulation, slightly closer to the ground, less doors, etc,etc... the usual stuff.. Admittedly, when the Escort RS Cosworth (or Cossie) was launched, it seemed a road/ racing car in terms of technology, ergonomics, safety and modernity. Yet it certainly had a hefty price tag, that's for sure and far too expensive for most folks. It was more expensive to produce, than the mk 3 Focus RS, and it was well known that it was part made of Sierra Sapphire and Ford Escort (pre 1996) parts. However, it was a Cosworth, so I would say this remains a bonus over the Focus RS. So all in all, it may be worth a little more, say, in 20 years than the Mk 3 Ford Focus RS .
@EugVR6
@EugVR6 2 жыл бұрын
The Mk3 will definitely increase in price.
@scottlee2421
@scottlee2421 6 жыл бұрын
My dream car .....ive only ever stood next to one...any one want to lend me one??
@richboy900
@richboy900 6 жыл бұрын
I'd be in the minority here and take the focus mk1 rs. It's also cheaper than both of these cars.
@jamescalalo
@jamescalalo 6 жыл бұрын
Escort is 2 doors its 90s :) focus is just I dont know
@James-hh1lq
@James-hh1lq Жыл бұрын
Mk3 focus doesn’t even look like an rs
@hllboi817
@hllboi817 6 жыл бұрын
GTI was the original, ford started about a decade after
@hllboi817
@hllboi817 6 жыл бұрын
Damien Leggatt lol, is that 355 the same one thats blowing up in most of the focus rs's as we speak? Ford still stands for Found On Road Dead... for a reason, u get a bigger engine with a shite interior, and the engine will blow up on you if u put the pedal down... ill keep my gti thanks 😎
@twincammike8329
@twincammike8329 5 жыл бұрын
GTI was a slow peace of crap...lol...
@JamieMcconnachie
@JamieMcconnachie 7 жыл бұрын
focus 2.3 cossworth made redu bhp ford just not there it like the gt40 only way make good is go back one last time
@flix3006
@flix3006 7 жыл бұрын
Escort.. engine still run.. good luck Focus RS owerns, 10000-14000km and dead engine...
@ViezePoeperd
@ViezePoeperd 7 жыл бұрын
myoutlaw Yea.....a dead engine after 10.000km. You're on the wrong side of youtube buddy, this isn't your place.
@waynusp1664
@waynusp1664 6 жыл бұрын
myoutlaw...erm you know the RS'S (well some of them) have volvo engines.....which will out live the planet!
@woodsy555
@woodsy555 6 жыл бұрын
The engines in the new focus RS live about 6 months if your lucky.
@waynusp1664
@waynusp1664 6 жыл бұрын
*lives....and You're.......just saying.
@woodsy555
@woodsy555 6 жыл бұрын
Coming from the Grammar Queen himself.............just saying.
@fatwalletboy2
@fatwalletboy2 7 жыл бұрын
sack the sound recordist ......echoed voiceover plus the rustling of the presenters jacket...
@ronnie-leepearce3160
@ronnie-leepearce3160 7 жыл бұрын
cosworth all the way and this mush escort cosworth made hot hatch no rs 500 did that's were it started
@djclimax74
@djclimax74 5 жыл бұрын
Escort tutta la vita
@louise948
@louise948 6 жыл бұрын
Cant beat a mk1 escort rs
@resnonverba137
@resnonverba137 4 жыл бұрын
The current Fiesta ST can.
@douglasjames4307
@douglasjames4307 7 жыл бұрын
Sierra Cosworth for me I'm going to restore mine, escort for me
@afroaliens
@afroaliens 7 жыл бұрын
Has to be the escort... I dont think there will ever be a car that is so different form the "original" Focus RS is a bit plentyfull.. and the escort is limited and fantastic!
@07acanoia
@07acanoia 7 жыл бұрын
The Escort may be worth more, but the Focus RS is faster and looks a lot better. Of course bc it is newer and styled as such. #TeamRS
@tylercouture216
@tylercouture216 7 жыл бұрын
DJ Paranoia soley because it's "newer" your one of those ppl think newer is automatically better Oh brother
@07acanoia
@07acanoia 7 жыл бұрын
Tyler Wallace and you're "one of those" who assume I think something's better bc it's newer. Nowhere did I state the Focus RS is better because it's newer. Work on your reading comprehension. It's newer so I expect it to be faster. I fully understand and respect the Escort.
@tylercouture216
@tylercouture216 7 жыл бұрын
DJ Paranoia "OFCOURSE bc it is NEWER as in because it's newer it has to looks better simply because the years thet were produced . #TeamRS" like the team RS at the end wasnt cringe worthy enough
@07acanoia
@07acanoia 7 жыл бұрын
Tyler Wallace you've made no point at all still. I said the RS looks better and it's because I believe it looks better. I can have a subjective opinion about how a car looks smh. Again, nowhere did I indicate the RS is better because it's newer. Oh...and #TeamRS
@tylercouture216
@tylercouture216 7 жыл бұрын
DJ Paranoia ok so "ofcourse because it's newer and styled as such" means what right after you say something of a camparitve nature?
@t25kev
@t25kev 6 жыл бұрын
Escort any day, at least it's a proper rs not a Volvo engine wanabe????
@gandhi1078
@gandhi1078 6 жыл бұрын
kevin w mk2 is the Volvo engine
@Drquimbaymatumbo
@Drquimbaymatumbo 5 жыл бұрын
That Volvo engine was the Audi 5 cylinder out of the group b quattro........they bought the design off Audi.......
@keidicko
@keidicko 6 жыл бұрын
How many of you have drove an Escort Cosworth ?They are not fast and drive terrible !As for the Focus they drive good but engine will fall to bits before its broken in its your choice ?
@afroaliens
@afroaliens 6 жыл бұрын
I have an Escort cosworth, and i can tell you that they ARE fast, and they are a lot more mechanical to drive then the new focus.. The focus is faster and more comfortable, but the cosworth has is something very special, and you feel it when you drive. Having said that, the escorts are NEVER stock, they more or less come with the 330kit and it really helps the car!
@keidicko
@keidicko 6 жыл бұрын
Next you will tell me they do 330hp on 803 green injectors that are 384cc and not even good enough for 290hp ! Not fast drive crap and have the worst gearbox known to man !
@afroaliens
@afroaliens 6 жыл бұрын
kzbin.info/www/bejne/l2PIoYOppNVjqqc they do make 330 or thereabouts. as for the gearbox, you are right, not the best of gearboxes, but you have to remember that this is a 30 year old car... but since you come to vids like this and are all angry, what 90`s car do you think is the best?
@mattsuploads5762
@mattsuploads5762 6 жыл бұрын
you sir know not a thing about cosworths, stardard injectors are good for about 300hp with the fuel pressure turned up with the correct map, greens are good for up to 360hp-380hp again with the right setup, then you can put in greys but it is lumpy low down as there is too much fuel for idle but are good for aleast 460hp, as all these injectors are for the 1980s (30+ years old) there is the Siemans injectors now with the right set up are good for 1000+hp still with four only, as the old way was to put in eight. As for driving the escort is a lot easyer than a 2 wheel drive cossie,
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