Ford F-150: Cranks Over Ok But Won't Start

In this Video I have a look at a 2007 Ford F150 5.4 that was towed in as a no start. After a quick look we discovered that the truck had no fuel pressure and a code for the "FPDM Offline." It doesn't take long with a visual inspection to find the crusty's. -Enjoy!
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[@richardthomas1743]

Eric , "There your problem lady right there , you got a crusty hole"... Lady , EXCUSE ME ?

[@thomasfletcher4765]

😲🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@3wheelmaniac]

And it stinks! Haha

[@mikemurray6727]

@@3wheelmaniac 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@dpmautomotive1758]

😂😂😂

[@tyree9055]

...and it's on fire. That's one spicy hot lady! ✊🥵

[@abadbronc]

"There's your problem lady, you've got a crusty hole, it stinks, and it's been on fire at some point." 😂😂😂

[@misterhat5823]

I see she's ate Taco Bell again...

[@RedfishCarolina]

Apparently this woman is named Wynona

[@frdmstnggt99]

There’s an ex-wife joke in there somewhere.....

[@mattcat231]

@@frdmstnggt99 about the only thing GOOD i can say about my ex, no crusty stinky holes, lol

[@nhra7110]

LMAO!

[@mimirdroid6199]

I know you sometimes think we would be bored by these types of diag and repair videos, but I love all of them. Keep doing what you do.

[@jimclifford1241]

It completely sucks when I am done watching a new video. Because .... now I have to wait for another new one. I've seen them all! Thanks for being so awesome Eric. My teenage boys and their friends are all car guys and my garage has turned into their garage. I make them all watch your videos so they see how to do things correctly. You have no idea (nah, you probably do) how much wisdom you spread around. You're the best! Thanks for being here!

[@billydixon3990]

You're the best, your methods of diagnosing problems and tracking down the faults is incredible, by far you are the best mechanic and technician I've ever seen, please keep making videos because I've learned so much from them, my approach to a problem has saved me time and HEADACHES, Thank you Big O

[@DIYDaveOK]

I don't think even Big Clive could resuscitate that circuit board. 😁

[@philmerrifield1163]

I think not, Clive is a great electrician but you need to stick a fork in that one 🤣🤣🤣

[@JohnRodriguesPhotographer]

@@philmerrifield1163 I don't think there's enough material left to stick a fork in on that one!

[@mikecumbo7531]

I find it funny that Clive gets mentioned in the comments of a NYS auto mechanic video.

[@jaymzx0]

@@mikecumbo7531 Big Clive also frequents these here comment section parts. tbh Clive would take it apart and show us _how_ it let the magic smoke out, but I think even he would bin the thing afterward.

[@IIGrayfoxII]

AvE would just jerry rig something to work.

[@jdrs4214]

It makes me real happy to see you every time, welcoming us into your videos with a big smile Sir. You’re a one of a kind gentleman. I mean that.

[@poteaugs]

Well done diagnostic as always! My son and I love watching your channel, keep up the great work.

[@tomnook4374]

I’m not a mechanic or mechanically inclined but I love watching every video you put out!😄

[@NEUTRALDROP]

Make sure it has gas, that was a big issue with us, that's why all the trucks get filled every morning. After that I got nuthin 😁👍WHATS IT GOT ERIC OOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!

[@nhra7110]

GET OVAH HERE!!

[@-DC-]

What's it got STUNNNNTMANNNNN 👊

[@thedarlings37]

Cameraman Here.

[@guthxchild0]

@@nhra7110 alright alright calm down. He had a little to drink last night folks...

[@Coach_addis]

Chubba Rubba 😂👍👍🤟

[@Dave52732]

Another interesting sharing of your diagnostic technique. I used to hang out at my local Shell dealers station from time to time, (my dad used to purchase his gas there since before I was born), and I used to observe the mechanic there as he worked on cars. I learned a great deal of what I know today from that exposure. Ah, life before OSHA made it unwise to have non-employees in the service area. I turn my own wrench for almost everything I encounter, and rarely need help, but if I lived in your neck of the woods, I would definitely choose your shop to handle anything I could not fix. Thanks for having us along Eric!!

[@crisprtalk6963]

EVery time I find an old SMA video I haven't seen before I get excited. This is one of those vids.

[@pauloneill8912]

thanks for your time with this and all other content you put up, its great watching a master at work

[@DIYDaveOK]

Eric O saves the day! And we're not surprised in the least 😁. Thanks as always, Eric!

[@raymondjr.1080]

Man , you so smart. Reminds me of when my uncle used to be a mechanic. He was the guy who could fix anything before diagnostic tools and computers. Thank you for your videos

[@williamdyckman9704]

Eric, love how you go about your diagnosis. I am learning alot, thanks to you !

[@kvsteve]

@18:30 "Why do I work on the floor?". #1 answer: Because I can't fall any further.

[@RogerRHF]

Why can't I never live around honest and hard working mechanics like yourself, I never seem to have any luck. Thank you very much for all you do and the work you put into the videos to share with us!

[@michaelransdell]

I got burned too many times with my first two cars so I just said screw it if I can lift it I can fix it, so unless it's an engine pull let's learn it!

[@ryanravencaller]

@@michaelransdell I did an automatic transmission without a transmission jack I used a regular 3 ton car jack from Walmart 2 jack stands and a ratchet strap it worked great, also used one of the ratchet straps to support the engine while the motor mounts were unbolted, after that transmission replacement that 2001 Acura TL made it to 275k before the muffler blew out and rust took its course in the trunk so exhaust fumes came right in, engine started misfiring it was time to junk it, used junkyard cheap $643 transmission that was recently rebuilt before the car it was in before ours got junked, outlived the car and it got parted out so it’s waiting to go in another car! That transmission had 295k on it as well at the point the car got junked because it had more mileage on it than our car did at 240k when I put it in!

[@cnalley4899]

This. Absolutely this rightcheer.

[@dougbsmith7078]

@@michaelransdell )[9o9 I

[@earlestes8649]

I can fix and trouble shoot just about anything mechanical unfortunately, everybody and there friends know it. I was tearing washers and dryer’s apart at 13 , tore my first car apart and fix timing chain at 16 . Mom bet dad that it wouldn’t ever run again, it was funny when she came out of the house and the looks on her face, when she had told me that!!😊. But I’m 65 now and my phone still ring’s to much, my wifey says I don’t know how to say no. But I’m starting to learn, this body is saying no. I’ve had a reverse shoulder replacement and left knee replacement and right hip replacement, besides a four organ transplant. And many other operations also.

[@leonascherer1617]

You are an electrical genius. Your schematic troubleshooting is beyond anyone i have known.

[@LASKY-xf3ok]

I watch you on roku TV now, so I have to come on here long enough to like, I watch all of your videos, start to finish, you're the most well rounded tech I've ever seen 🏆

[@stephengillette355]

The only thing that we salt here in Southern Arizona is our margaritas.

[@carbindallas]

Right... you live in Flagstaff?

[@Heathenishism]

@@carbindallas that's north.

[@Heathenishism]

@@carbindallas I think the use cinder in AZ.

[@miraak542]

@@Heathenishism Arizona does use salt but it's not the same as other states use. It looks like rock since it's dark reddish-brown, but it's a natural salt mined in Utah that isn't quite as brutal on cars. That said, it's only used in the highlands like Flagstaff, the Grand Canyon, etc as they're constantly full of icy roads in the winter.

[@RideAcrossTheRiver]

Margarita served in a blown rad hose, sure :^D

[@subzeromjc]

Thank you Dr. O , and thank Mrs. O for making a cameo. We saw her.

[@titaniumdiveknife]

This.

[@DavesTR4A]

Hi Eric, I always enjoy your sense of humor as you work through your diagnosis. Keep up the good work! Dave Connitt

[@JohnRodriguesPhotographer]

I think the method to your madness when it comes to troubleshooting is perfect. Don't deviate from the plan and you won't get bit. Great job Eric! Hi Mrs O!

[@Vytor01]

You should have said "Got it from the parts store that shall not be mentioned again until they sponsor me. No free advertising on this channel Mr. CEO!"

[@Sam.HAMMER.Martin]

Well said

[@kcuhc84]

Outside the front of the South main auto shop is a lighted "Napa" sign. Not a sponsor.

[@pauldionne1665]

I believe the only sponsor Eric has are his tools he uses and the ones he invented. He already has all the sponsors he needs his family.

[@baxrok2.]

It starts, it runs, ship it. Thanks Dr. O!

[@rysacroft]

When that module flew off it really made me LOL! That brightened up my morning, thanks.

[@davewallace.8303]

Awesome result! Always learn something new every time I watch one of your vids.

[@sierravortec2494]

I don’t think I’ve ever seen a spare tire carrier actually drop down, and THEN go back up !

[@ryanalexander984]

Being from Phoenix, I’ve never seen one not come down and be able to go back up. They always work.

[@robertmjr7996]

@@ryanalexander984 Your neighbor to the East here. Up here in the rockies @ 8500', every one I've seen works.

[@61rampy65]

@@ryanalexander984 I laughed in Arizonan when he said "we've all seen a crusty Fuel Pump Module". There's a reason I moved from Chicago!

[@scottfirman]

No but I remember hiring a flat bed truck to haul my Chevy Trailblazer home so I could cut the spare tire holder off from under it and replace the tire with a 3 inch wood screw sticking out of it. I took a threaded rod, bent the end of it and made up my own spare tire holder. In Michigan, those crank spare tire holders rot out in a winter.

[@scottfirman]

@@ryanalexander984 Come look at a Michigan vehicle, those crank units rot out in one winter.

[@sicily6740]

Sorry about your sinus infection - get well quickly! Fun video.

[@emandujano63]

I had the same thing on my 2014 crank no start! They charged me for a fuel pump 1200! Few months later same thing told me overheated fuse! Few months later crank no start! Seen you do it changed the relay and cranked and turned on the first go! Thank to you man!!

[@robertlopez6725]

Hi Eric. Man I love your videos. Your area is so blessed to have an owner master tech. As you are. I know its not easy for you not only to find the exact problems on these cars but to deal with all the rust issues that goes on in east coast. I'm lucky in that respect being out in sacramento calif. No rust due to weather. Keep up the great work, God bless you in all your endeavors. Sincerely bobby lopez

[@philmerrifield1163]

that's where The saying goes "test, don't guess" Well Eric sorry to hear about your illness and great video dude get well soon mate 😁

[@miraak542]

Been binge watching your stuff for the past month or so and will continue to do so. I'm going to hopefully be starting mechanic school in the fall once I've got my second COVID shot. Gonna be keeping all the things I've learned here in mind (or as much as possible, think my mental hard-drive is getting full) so maybe I'll get good grades, haha! Going for an Assosciates in Automotive Diagnostics and Repair. I love the hell out of cars, so I'm looking forward to it. Might even get into car flipping once I'm out of school and have a bit of experience.

[@jimwhite5964]

SMA rocks! Thanks, Eric....really enjoy your channel!

[@richardvastine7486]

Love that crust! Thanks Mr. O. Entertainment and education all in one!

[@wallingj68]

What a coincidence... I just bought my fathers 2005 F-150 with only 39k on it, and this video pop's up. Thanks Eric!

[@joehyundaitech7961]

I would check the module

[@kennysullivan721]

That's the least of ur problems with a 5.4 3v easy fix spark plugs n can phasers not so easy

[@dlewis9760]

Not sure if you are familiar with KZbinr Mustie 1 I use the old Toro lawn mower a couple of weeks ago. Self propelled barely does. Mustie finds my model lawn mower for free on the tree belt last Sunday. Fixes everything including a gummed up self propelled mechanism. Mine now has self propelled again.

[@charlesball6519]

Best thing to do would be to also subscribe to FordTechMakuloco. He does a lot of videos in Ford F-150's (He's a Ford technician), including how to redo the timing (including the phasers) and do the spark plug job correctly.

[@simonplmondon1234]

We got the same problem with the salt in Quebec, Canada is why I recommend to recommend to everyone to get a Krown or Fuid film Rust treatment

[@timothywaggoner2356]

id like to thank the people at south main auto ,they bring it to you in a format that the regular folk can understand and at the same time is quite entertaining , allthough it wasnt what i was looking for not their fault but very cool

[@bmwmsport11]

Love your videos because they show that it’s possible to diagnose electrical issues. My F150 had the same problem but turns out it was the MAF sensor all along. Spent a good $1k on two new fuel pumps and two driver modules. Decided screw it let’s start testing everything. Came down to the MAF sensor and despite it reading correct air flow for some reason it wasn’t sending signal to the ECU.

[@gabealexander88]

Going back to get the tools i forgot to grab keeps me in shape...also helps me brush up on my swearing😂

[@markasprey797]

kinda nice to see you work on a truck the way I have to down on the cold hard concrete. nice job.

[@bertgrau9246]

I remember many a time I wish I had cold concrete to work on and not cold gravel

[@AlwaysHopeful87]

So, I'm reading a book on the Apollo program and took a break to watch. Best of both worlds. Thanks.

[@andrewrobinson2869]

Great work Learning so much from you. Big Thankyou from Down Under.

[@romo5268]

I have replaced some pump driver modules myself in years past. I think Ford has a kit to allow the module to stand off from the frame to help keep it from causing issues again. Keep up the good work.👍

[@Monkeh616]

Imagine for a minute how reliable those modules might be if put on the inside of the vehicle, six inches away from where they thought it was smart to put them. But then they couldn't sell people a new car every few years.

[@camerontechstuffs]

Sensitive electronics and salty roads are a recipe for a bad time, my newer ford car needed a new power steering module because the plastic housing cracked and let moisture in. "Built Ford Tough"

[@raymondreiff8170]

Ya but then the little Chinese guy wouldn't have a Job making new ones and ERIC wouldn't have a reason to make this Video 🤑

[@TonyRule]

@@raymondreiff8170 So the little Chinese guy wouldn't have as much to do since there wouldn't need to be as many made, Eric wouldn't have as much to do since it wouldn't need replacing, and I wouldn't have as much to do because this video wouldn't exist. We could all meet up for a few beers then!

[@toddlehman1]

A good example is how long the batteries last in vehicles that have it located in the interior or trunk. Years longer than the battery under the hood.

[@heyitschinoable]

@@toddlehman1 due to corrosion?

[@em2965]

My 04 F150 did this a few years ago, frame is super clean on this truck and didn’t have any rust behind it. The aluminum still corroded just like the one on the video, I think it was a dissimilar metals issue, only worsened by rust up in areas like yours. Trucks down south just took a few more years to see the issue 😁

[@z06king]

Thanks, Eric. this just happened to our truck. Drinking coffee from my South Main Auto Repair coffee cup, while you teach me what to do.

[@johnkendall9831]

Another fine job by SMA

[@johngoodwyn8246]

Feel better soon Eric O. !

[@moco872003]

Hey Eric, long time viewer first time commenter. I really enjoy your vids man. Very informative. Keep it up.

[@alcajun619]

Hope you’re feeling better! Great video! Thanks!

[@richardbambenek2601]

As a former computer tech I am very familiar with the smell you speak of. Very distinct and pungent. It makes for an EZ fix but only if the new part doesn't go up in flames also. :o)

[@charlesball6519]

The smell is what's left after the "magic smoke" has been released.

[@KawiKvfRider]

An easy check for the module is to remove the connector from the module and install 2 15 amp mini fuses into the harness connector, fuses fit perfectly. This confirms powers and grounds, also get you out of a bind if your dead side the road

[@clarkmiedel1936]

great tip i will try

[@monkeywrangler5200]

I learned about the bed lining an entire vehicle when I got my old wrangler many moons ago. It was also the vehicle that motivated me to invest in tools for spraying fluid film (gun and Wands). Lotta $ for us folks in the NE in that gig. But yeah years ago saw a dude with a wrangler all bed lined with clear bed liner at the grocery store, we started talking... good times. It’s a solid idea and kinda even looks neat. Almost like old cast armor turrets from older tanks (Shermans etc). So it has a weird look that’s kind of appealing to some folks. Piss on rust.

[@kevinweatheritt]

Hi Eric, i am not a motor mechanic but a retired maintenance electrician in the UK and i too have a nose for burnt out electrical components, very distinctive aroma. Another great video. Stay safe don`t let the rona get you.

[@billstathakos]

Finally something to watch!

[@corvettefan91]

You should have sent the module to Ivan, he’d rebuild it with parts scavenged from an old Xbox lol.

[@mattcat231]

nothing some jumper wires couldn't take care of, from the xbox controller of course, lol

[@cojones8518]

Send it to Louis Rossmann, he'd use the proper amount of flux and parts from the dumpster behind the plant in China to fix it. Plus he's really big on Right to Repair, IE getting schematics and parts to fix your own electronics.

[@GlycerinZ]

@@cojones8518 Happy to see a Louis fan here!! I've been following him since 2014.

[@nigerianprince4017]

@@GlycerinZ I’ve followed him for a few years also

[@paulsolovyovsky1702]

@@cojones8518 All we need now is for him to buy some real estate next to Eric O..

[@ronalddibbern3728]

Missed your videos,glad your back.

[@dendkmac]

when I moved back to New Jersey and I started work as this mechanic there I would have to say you might get the spare tire down on the vehicles maybe one out of 10 times and I saw your video and just reminded me that

[@btenn4]

"The good news is: Napa has one in stock" "The bad news is: They're still not a sponsor" LMAO

[@69uremum]

The aftermarket company realized that the aluminum sitting directly on steel was causing galvanic corrosion so they added a isolator to keep the aluminum back of the module further away from the steel crossmember :)

[@reecenewton3097]

...until the salty crud builds up in between and off you go...

[@kathleenkostiuk8359]

Thank-you for the fix. I tried the fuses was shaking my head. replaced the fuel pump module and waalaa. Even went to napa for the part and i never go there. Thanks again.

[@dougking7592]

As always great info and some sort of direction for a shade tree mechanic, and for the ones that just enjoy working on trucks for the fun of it thanks brother

[@mnmarlin6074]

I'd really like to know what that engineer was thinking when he/she mounted the FPDM under the bed. Why not take it a step farther and just screw it to the back bumper to make it easy to change.

[@charlesball6519]

Actually, putting it inside the back bumper would make it harder to replace. Some engineer forgot about galvanic corrosion. Zinc against steel don't go together.

[@noneya8184]

One that never had a hands on job ever in there life and the world is over ran with them and corrupt politicians !!!!!

[@wyattoneable]

Crank, no starts are one of my favorites.

[@ekop1778]

ITS A FORD! FIX OR REPAIR DAILY!

[@kennethj816]

@Timothy Mckee Found On Road Dead

[@miguelluismusic4181]

Still trying to figure out how your videos are so relaxing bro...

[@jackiemyers7003]

Really great you break down the mechanic speak to terms that are understandable to lay person..to actually use A++ instructor

[@hahaha12345678993]

the fuel pump talking at 4:40 sounds like an Italian wise guy

[@tinkerwest]

SMA: There's your problem lady; you've got a crusty hole and it stinks and it's been on fire at some point. Lady: OK, but what's wrong with the truck?

[@jamesterrill1938]

Great video, it pays to have the experience - bad and good. Thanks for the lesson.

[@fomoco300k]

Hope you get to feelin' better soon. Sinus infections are no fun! Thanks for bringing us along anyway. Still driving our 2007 Expedition with 220-ish on it, so I know I'll likely have this issue one day. (It was a PA vehicle for part of its life. Plenty of rust and crust under there!)

[@anthonykendrick1418]

Awesome! I'm a Ford guy and you just taught me an area to NOT overlook. Cool. 👍

[@DAKOTANSHELBY]

Eric, LOL everytime you remind your viewers that NAPA won't sponsor you! ; ) Keep up the great channel sir!

[@Sam.HAMMER.Martin]

But you say there name ,,,,they owe you

[@danmolumby4186]

Another awesome video Eric, keep them coming😊

[@johnmichaelazona9520]

Clean looking truck for it's age and being from NY. Good job Eric.

[@robinsattahip2376]

If Napa won't sponsor you, don't say their name. "My supplier" is sufficient.

[@jeffdrier4460]

The main reason I watch... "there's your problem lady!" 😆

[@stevemiller6766]

If you every write a common problem-solution book I’ll buy a copy as soon as it comes out. Thank you for the excellent troubleshooting steps.

[@dewster5]

Thanks for the heads up, I have 98 F150 that I've kept in the driveway & moved into street for yard tree removal. Truck has always started easily, went to move it back into the driveway, key into ignition, it started and quit, turning over but no start. 4.6 V8 Triton engine. Think it is fuel issue and I'm doing my KZbin- U research. Hoping my year is similar. Thanks again 👍

[@dafirnz]

For the players at home, you can put a 20 amp fuse in the wiring harness module connector to effectively bypass it and put the fuel pump at 100% duty cycle. Obviously it won't work when the supply fuse is roasted, but it's a quick diag from there.

[@MrTrailerman2]

"There's your problem lady, you got a crusty hole and it stinks" "Funny, that's the same thing her gynecologist told her 🤣😂😆

[@sylviaverrill6681]

Eric, Jon V. Here. I’m from Maine. The state love’s Salt and Calcium. The Drive side of most car’s and truck’s are solid rust.

[@tjjrtjjr]

Great job had same problem was crank sensor,love your videos

[@stealthg35infiniti94]

Eric good job! I wonder if Fluid Film and Dielectric Grease would be a good idea on that unit to increase longevity?

[@clarkmiedel1936]

most def it will

[@RK-kn1ud]

I don't think I've ever seen an F-150 of that generation NOT have this problem at some point.

[@popwarhomie]

235k so far with zero issues. *knocks on wood*

[@jgeorges3061]

ERIC, awesome video /info as always.

[@michaelschwenk9743]

My '07 had this happen about 3 years ago, stalled 3 times heading home from work. I'd seen videos like this before, I checked the driver module and it had a huge hole in it with salt residue all over the inside, I replaced it and it was all good. I noticed in your video the dash "Brake" cluster light was on. If the e-brake was on, that's normal of course, but if the light flickers on and off, or stays on, there is a bad solder joint on a resistor on the back side of the cluster circuit board. Easy to repair with any soldering gun.

[@chrisrichard298]

On my '08, the whole housing of that module had rotted away and the bare board was literally hanging under my truck and somehow still working. Needless to say, I replaced it *Pronto*

[@MrWolfSnack]

Should have modified it and run some extra wire and re-fitted it under the hood or something.

[@chrisrichard298]

I think they put it close to the fuel pump for a reason, but the new one comes with a revised mounting solution to stop the galvanic corrosion from having an aluminum module bolted to a steel frame. It’s been under there for a few years in New Hampshire winters and still looks fairly new.

[@steveo6631]

The Old Crusty Hole.... Great bar name... Trademark!,,,,

[@emanchevy]

Same thing happened to my father's truck! 2007 and that fuel module was rotted the same way, good old northern Wisconsin salty roads!!

[@mikerawley2650]

Yes indeed we have a salt mine under Lake Erie here in the CLE. Salt everywhere when the snow flies

[@erikandersen2477]

Fuel pump says "how're you doin" 😁

[@nickrose7592]

“There’s your problem lady.... you got a crusty hole, it stinks and it’s been on fire.” Lol But what’s wrong with the Truck? 😁

[@peterpierce9233]

When Mounting a Replacement I used to grind the frame space clean and spray a little rubber silicone around it.

[@titaniumdiveknife]

200k is great. Thank you Mr. O and Mrs. O!

[@ImigrentfromMars]

Have to comment on this one because your sick and at work . Thats one of the bad things about being the boss we can't call in sick.

[@UnhungHero]

I've had 3 04-08 F150s needing one of these replaced, common failure on these trucks

[@1607rosie]

Another perfect diagnosis and nobody lost a limb!

[@jamesevensen7565]

Thanks for sharing the experience and well soon