Ford F-250 intermittent window, lock , radio , cluster operation

I know I will hear a lot again about quality , and quite honestly this is just another quick filler video to buy me some time as I learn the ropes of video editing. Just felt I had to give you all something to let you know I am working on it .

[@elcheapo5302]

Thanks for making a great video, Keith. And thanks to Eric and Ivan for putting you up to it!

[@NewLevelAuto]

+bill billl Thanks for watching !

[@gmoney9588]

Another cluster f**k . Junkyard ? Ship it out for repair ? Just wonderful . Gotta love it .

[@EddieTheGrouch]

Superb! I'm taking notes both on the issue and how you cram so much info into 6 minutes. You had all the bases covered including the tip on the IC PCB. You are a natural and will be setting a very high bar in both diagnostics and presentation. Well done, Keith!

[@martingonzales2101]

If i missed this, pardon me. The bundle of wires are routed underneath the vent hose which creates extra pressure. I routed mine over the vent hose. For now, its doing good without any additional work to the cluster. Thanks. You saved my day!

[@dalevandermeer719]

Ford door locks and windows have a big history of problems nice to shed a little light on one kind of failure for them nice job Clear to the point

[@TheDisgruntledMechanic]

I really appreciate you showing and explaining the wiring and the wiring diagram. depending on how and what the wiring runs to it can get confusing so this helps. Thanks.

[@8power0]

Quick but straight to the point..., this is how we learn .

[@joelaplnski5394]

Wow, you cut to the chase, a lot was explained in a short amount of time, thank you

[@theadventuresofjavier8698]

howdy,I dealt with the same issue last year.the Customer refused to believe a cluster problem could cause the window problem.but after installing a new cluster ,magic....not that I'm anywhere near your level. thanks keith.

[@NewLevelAuto]

Javier Rocha Hey you got the vehicle fixed and in that respect you bumped the customer's opinion of you to a "New Level" , see what I did there 😉

[@theadventuresofjavier8698]

thanks Keith

[@ThePlowGuys]

I have a E250 (2007) and I have the exact same problem. I am now on cluster #2 and now it is starting to go. Best thing I can tell people if they want the cluster to last as long as possible is when it starts to go batty DON"T tap or knock on the cluster. Doing this will only hasten the demise of the cluster.

[@kyhomegarage3430]

Very well explain Keith. We all are very happy to have you on KZbin, Looking forward for more. Thank you

[@wyattoneable]

Experience pays off. For the rest of us, the wiring diagram is key to understanding diagnostics. This video was well explained and the visuals worked well.

[@Sandbag1300]

Awesome at 0:07, "When the cluster is down, the power windows do not work..." We don't need no stinkin' cluster but dam we cannot function without the power windows! Nice video, quick and concise.

[@rrmech11]

Keith great short explanation of how the circuitry for the failing power windows travels through the PCB.

[@NewLevelAuto]

+Richard Gill Thanks, always worried I wont get the brain to agree with the tongue tryong to do this .

[@mattanderson1831]

Running through a wiring diagram like that is definitely going to help a lot of people, myself included. Great vid

[@glenohara6563]

I think that any videos from a man with your knowledge and experience is gratefully soaked up by those that wish to expand their own knowledge. To those that thumbs down, that speaks volumes as to the type of person you are.

[@mikeeustice4452]

great video Keith we welcome you with open arms I had a similar problem on a E150 the cluster wasn't turning off the battery saver relay sent it to United radio no more problems after 6 months keep up the good work😁

[@roadkill5333]

Another Ivan/Eric O fan here! Keep up the good work. Thanks for sharing!!

[@Cavalier_Steve]

Excellent first video Keith thanks for taking the time to show us your findings and experience! Cheers 🍻

[@twinky2243136]

thanks keith really appreciate your help. Im a 23 year old gm tech from alberta, not a lot of people like helping others in the shop. Can use all the help i can get with data communication faults etc. Really liked your EBCM video on that gm van. Thanks again.

[@NewLevelAuto]

+twinky2243136 That's awesome , I'm sure I'll be making more GM videos in the near future as well

[@eddiemartinez265]

Ivan and Eric are right you know your stuff great work.

[@DaveSender66]

Nice work Keith! Interesting case study !! Please keep them coming !!!!!

[@NewLevelAuto]

+DaveSender66 Will do , and thanks again for the support !

[@philh9238]

seen this before the accessory delay relay is in the relay. dodge did the same with there clusters.... you the man

[@stuzman52]

Great work Keith in finding an instrument cluster as the root of the problem. And it's always a good idea as you've shown to look over the diagrams before ripping things out. Nice explanation in going over the diagrams to show how the windows and locks were tied to the instrument cluster too. Keep up the good work and don't work too hard :)

[@NewLevelAuto]

+stuzman Really appreciate the input, and thanks for watching and supporting !

[@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics]

Terry, Keith doesn't know how to not work too hard!

[@stuzman52]

HaHa Ivan! I suspected the man never gets sleep and probably works 16 hour days. Oh, I noticed your new name over on KY HomeGarage channel and was going to comment, but got side tracked. And you sure do get around on KZbin ;) And great name for a great channel Ivan!!!

[@254triple2]

Great information and detail with the electrical drawings to show how that cluster works/controls other areas.

[@mattw1393]

Hope you read this Keith. I get the feeling you're not too fussed on making the videos or even being in someone else's. I just want to say thanks for taking the time to make them. Me personally, I'm a mechanic of 20+ years and understand almost all of what I see in these videos, but I simply don't have the exposure to the diagnostic Repairs that I can experience through KZbin and the videos offered by you, Ivan, Eric and Paul Danner. It's appreciated, that's all.

[@NewLevelAuto]

+Matt W Certainly read it and appreciate the feedback. Its true KZbin wasnt a particular goal of mine just yet , but honestly I also had no idea how awesome people would respond. I love diagnostic work , and apparently so do others , so I am privileged to be able to share the fun stuff I see when I can. Never too late to prepare for a semi-retirement for you in diagnostic work 😉

[@jacobusa4727]

Hello Keith I'm a new sub after I heard Ivan and Eric O about you, I will look forward to all your case studies as well as Ivan's Eric's including scanner Dan's you did well on camera all the best thanks for notification's

[@NewLevelAuto]

jacob USA Thanks for watching !

[@GoTechTraining]

Great vid Keith! Keep em up! Nice to have you sharing your experience(s) with the world!

[@NewLevelAuto]

Wells Vehicle Electronics Thanks Mike , very grateful for the support!

[@motorcyclesandridingfree2899]

Glad to see a video and you taking the time to show how the cluster affects the window circuit which I have seen many Ford cluster failures.

[@jannepo]

Really liked how you used the pen and Surface Pro screen explaining things. It is very visual way to do it.

[@djambrosia]

A very welcome addition to my selection of automotive experts :)

[@KoonTrucking]

Great video ! Awesome job explaining the wiring diagram ! Sure make it look easy !

[@NewLevelAuto]

+Koon Trucking Thanks brother . Really glad you enjoyed it

[@teronman]

Thanks a bunch my friend. My son had this issue and we were working a storm in New England. We are eventually going to have it fixed properly and replace the battery relay but, for now we have a radio and the windows work. You are the man!! Thanks again

[@bigrockk2980]

Great video and plenty long enough to give us the meat and potatoes of the problem and cure. Thank you!

[@NabilChouchany]

Very quick, yet very clear... Thank you Keith!

[@kirkabrahamson1148]

Awesome. Cant believe how quickly you can just dive in like that. You made it look easy lol

[@NewLevelAuto]

+Kirk Abrahamson Thank you very much, now if I could just figure out how to make videos that fast I might be doing well !

[@kirkabrahamson1148]

This might be where Ivan teaches the master ;) lol

[@NewLevelAuto]

Kirk Abrahamson Yes please

[@cabdriveruk]

Great video,very informative. Keep the great videos coming, really interesting. Cheers, Jeff.

[@NewLevelAuto]

cabdriveruk Thanks Jeff! Appreciate you watching

[@Badgertronix]

Man I came here for the chicken wing cook off and all I get is this diagnostics video. Nice work! Quality is great. If you get stuck on Powerdirector give me a shout, I've struggled through it for a couple of years and almost feel like I know my way round it. Cheers

[@NewLevelAuto]

Badgertronix I swear badger I thought about doing the cooking intro .. 😂 I will be in touch

[@CleanSC]

Great vid, Keith! So glad you're getting into this. Keep it up! If it hasn't been said before, rotate the phone so at least it's in landscape mode to better fill our screens. So excited for this channel... Between here and Eric/Ivan, the electrical trifecta is complete! Much love to Paul as well of course and his expertise.

[@baxrok2.]

Well done Sir. Access to and interpretation of wiring diagrams is the lesson, got it! Thanks!

[@NewLevelAuto]

+Baxrok2 Exactly right ! Thank you as always for tge support

[@chungaleta1234]

great vid... the content and how you present it is what matters.... and this one is great in both senses. thanks!!!!

[@billmck12345]

you don't need any practice vids, great vid keith. sometimes I wonder what the heck they are thinking when they design and put out this mess. this kinda reminds of what the earlier Volvos, when they pass pcm, abs, and etc circuits through a dash light and if the light is out so is the affected circuit.

[@frankmtech3766]

Keith is good you got there before the Ford burn down with the cluster problems.😂😂😂 Great video bro. I like the way explained the wiring diagram. And also like your pen you used. 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍

[@OneAuto]

Awesome, no quality issues there Keith! Cheers 🍻

[@NewLevelAuto]

+One Auto, Thanks Rob ! Still not what i want to produce for everyone , but until I get the bloody editing program licked , this is what I have to offer . Your support means alot 🍻

[@pinpointautomotiverepair1592]

The series of Defazio begins! Awesome vid man!

[@drbsr1948]

Good job Keith. Keep them coming

[@lukecartwright1803]

short and sweet jam packed with good info!!

[@StopDropandLOL]

Great information thanks for the video! I've sold a lot of these clusters in my career haha

[@NewLevelAuto]

StopDropandLOL They really arent made for the trucks they put them in. Thanks for watching !

[@jgeorges3061]

Hello Keith, good video and alot of info thanks for that waiting for the next one. cheeeeeeers.

[@haywardsautomotive6156]

Nice informative video Keith. Some have white boards...you have the magic pencil :D

[@shawns442]

Great Diagnosis! Thanks for sharing! Great Video!

[@johnsamuelson3234]

Great video Keith!! I repair dialysis equipment in a hospital and still working on car is just intimidating to me. Great work

[@NewLevelAuto]

+John Samuelson do you get wiring diagrams from the manufacturer of the equipment ?

[@johnsamuelson3234]

Most of the issues with dialysis machines are the hydraulic components. The machines I work on now have 18 solenoid valves 6 pump motors, air separators, pressure sensors and conductivity cells. All of the electronics are on densely populated PCB's with ribbon cables going to an interface board then out to the hydraulic components.

[@sisobesobeso5115]

thank you guys eric o, ivan and of course keith

[@davjociestanski5743]

Short and to the point great information

[@EXOVCDS]

I don't see any quality issues... looked good to me! Thanks for sharing!

[@NewLevelAuto]

+Thomas EXOVCDS You are too kind 👍

[@alp3274]

Thank you!! This works on a 2006 F-250 Diesel truck too! Thank you for the video

[@guayaco-dm3vu]

Tell me you didnt scratch your head the first time you came across this issue? Excellent case study keith.I knew about the cluster causing light issues but never knew about the windows... Thanks Keith..always learning from you guys.

[@NewLevelAuto]

guayaco3299 The first one I did I believe I had gone straight to a window switch and hooked up a small bulb to the power and ground taped it to the dash and drove around till I saw the light go out . Probably took about 30 minutes more on that one . Wiring diagrams ! The best possible tool to have

[@orville58]

It is amazing how much you know off the top of your head thanks for sharing love this channel

[@400djt]

Quality was fine, excited to see more videos

[@mattg6]

That was actually Info informative to me. I have the exact same problem on my 2004 Hyundai Elantra. Love the video.

[@NewLevelAuto]

+Matt G61904 Elantra you are probably going to find the same problem if you just tap on the interior fuse block

[@mattg6]

That's exact what it was. Luckily I caught it in time. Every time I shut my door the lights would go out. I am just happy I am not the only person that experienced that problem.

[@AutomotiveCircuitSolutions]

Very common on the 05-07 models. We repair these clusters for a fraction of dealer cost with a lifetime warranty. www.automotivecircuitsolutions.com/collections/ford/products/2005-2007-ford-superduty-instrument-cluster-speedometer-repair-service

[@SteveRobReviews]

Nice pattern failure example. Keith without knowing the pattern failure was there a code or was it just the cluster not illuminating that led you to the cluster . As you can imagine the thought process for me is quite different than a technician. Well done.

[@NewLevelAuto]

STEVE ROB I could have started from the window switch also , however the cluster was so full of dust and dirt that I could barely even see through the glass . The brushing it off part just kind of led me to stay right there . Then of course I gave it a baby tap to the face and it popped on and off just once. So I focused in . Glad you enjoyed the video !

[@randytheapplianceguy8838]

thank you Keith for a nice video.

[@ryanpasmore3676]

Haha, you're a life saver... i thought it was honna be some huge problem. You're the best!!

[@CHIBA280CRV]

Fantastic, and what is that you are using a iPad Pro ? And the program Mitchell?

[@NewLevelAuto]

+JOGO Microsoft surface pro and Ford factory diagrams

[@jackpiloty]

Check mate !!! thank you so much !!! I move the connector and I see the same problem !!! You help me a lot !! thanks

[@8953147]

Your doing a fantastic job!!

[@dreamer2355]

Great video and thanks for sharing!

[@trainer2018]

Keith when you replace the cluster, what type of procedure do you have to do so the rest of the modules recognize it so it will work? We have had a few go bad in the past and would just like to know do we have to have ids to do this or can certain aftermarket scanners perform the function? Good job Keith take care.

[@NewLevelAuto]

busjockey1 I have become so adjusted to using the ids that I am not sure what else can pull it off. However I will find out and get back to you on that. Possibly even a video

[@andykidwell6187]

Great video Keith! Keep em coming :-)

[@NewLevelAuto]

+Andy Kidwell Will do , keep watching 😊

[@Blanco150]

My 2002 ford f150 had same issue. I was told to check my interior box fuses. A fuse will indicate its good but in reality it’s no good. Check the metal part of the fuse, if it has small circular/square burn marks on the metal, the fuse is no good.

[@Skynet-1]

Looking forward to your video's!

[@farmboy30117]

Great vid Keith!

[@michelsylvain5119]

Keith the boss uploads videos cool

[@billrimmer5596]

Thank u very much. Had no idea cluster related in this way to locks and windows. What wiring diagrams do u like to use?

[@NewLevelAuto]

Bill Rimmer Oem or Alldata have worked the best for me throughout the years . Thanks again for watching !

[@jackm4690]

Thanks this really helped me. Where do you get the wiring diagrams?

[@PleaseExplainMe]

Very nice :) Tip: If you want a bit nicer, cropped (and quicker) screenshots, install greenshot, then you can select what you want to capture.

[@NewLevelAuto]

+Ross Kuipers Thank you ! Just have to see if that will work with the magic pen . And thanks for watching

[@jff490ss2]

Awesome video! I have been waiting a long time for you to start making videos. 2 questions. What laptop do you like for diagnostic work and what program were you using for marking on the wiring diagram?

[@NewLevelAuto]

JFF490 SS Actually thats the screen sketch feature in the Microsoft surface pro . Love that thing, now I use it strictly for service info . As far as what laptops I use , the answer is many . I will put together a video about it soon . Thanks for watching !

[@jff490ss2]

You the man! Can't wait for the video on that and on aftermarket diagnostic tools that you think are worthwhile. Thank you!

[@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics]

Horray!!!

[@NewLevelAuto]

Pine Hollow Auto Diagnostics Practicing staying up late for your next trip on the S.I express ?

[@NewLevelAuto]

Pine Hollow Auto Diagnostics and now you see how the door locks fit in

[@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics]

BBBIndustries failed me again :(

[@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics]

No, I take that back! The accy delay relay only feeds the illumination bulb in the door lock switches!! I say door locks should still function with the cluster being bad. And since you didn't show the locks not working in the video (only the windows...which makes sense), I'll assume that I am right :P

[@NewLevelAuto]

Pine Hollow Auto Diagnostics hmmmm. Sorry bud , shouldve shown it, but locks did not function .Perhaps they missed a bit when drawing out tge diagram. But once cluster was operational the door lock operation was restored 😜

[@JOHNPHUFNAGEL]

Thanks Keith that was a great video! What laptop are you using?

[@MrPami9899]

great diagnostic

[@bodgitandleggitgarage]

hi mate it was nice talking to you on Thomas is live chat subscribe sorted!!!! going up the apples and pears to get my dog and bone lol

[@NewLevelAuto]

bodgit and leggit garage It was certainly a great time , looking forward to the next one , Cheers🍻

[@BuggysTowJam]

Loving your vids man! I'm learning so much from you. Thank you!

[@stanilastefan1687]

Great video, keep it up !!!!

[@evdb1794]

Great video and explanation Keith. I love how you can write and draw on your wiring diagrams? If you don't mind me asking what program and tablet do you use that allows you to do that?

[@NewLevelAuto]

E VDB That is all part of the Micrsoft Surface Pro 4

[@phillipdotson3589]

like your video by the way what software are using with your wire diagrams

[@chrismartino9078]

Great video. What program are you using with that highlighter? I could really use that.

[@NewLevelAuto]

chris martino Microsoft surface pro comes with it pre-installed

[@The_Striper_Hunt]

How much does a repair for this cost?

[@movingupautodiagnostics8645]

Thank you Keith

[@NewLevelAuto]

Moving Up Diy Thanks for watching !

[@rcchar]

Great Job. Loved it.

[@NewLevelAuto]

+Randy Charlton very happy you liked it

[@paulcarroll750]

Video was very good. Where do you send your clusters to get repaired?

[@NewLevelAuto]

Paul Carroll I like to use different outlets dependent upon the car maker. Gm and Ford I use Model Electronics. Pretty much anything else can go to United Radio

[@paulcarroll750]

Thanks Keith. I was just curious. I have heard about United Radio on other channels in your area of the country. Out here on the left coast I use Speed O Tach.

[@jerrodl]

Good video. Pro tip: shoot in landscape, not portrait, if you can. Keep 'em coming. Thanks

[@mman454]

Reminds me of a similar issue I had with my intrepid. Highly intermittent: no blower, no turn signals (hazards still worked), no power windows, and the SRS light would come on. There were a few other things that didn't work, but I can't think of them. Looking at the wiring diagram told me that one of the circuits from the ignition switch was shared by them. Verified it wasn't a faulty fuse, and ordered a new ignition switch. Pulled the old one apart and this was what I found: imgur.com/4V98xTQ?r Two contacts, which make up the same circuit, had some decent wear.

[@NewLevelAuto]

mman454 Oh heck yeah I remember those. Great diagnosis btw . Thanks for watching

[@juanhinojosa6272]

electrical issues are the worse luckily that one didn't seem to hard to diagnose.

[@NewLevelAuto]

+Juan Hinojosa Honestly I love electrical diagnostics! Especially when information is available in wiring diagrams and description and operation. Hopefully my videos will help you see that. Thanks again for watching

[@kingsamoanOG]

My 06 F350 had this issue first the back lights kept going out slowly then the entire cluster goes in and out randomly. mine was the actual harness and not the board. the weight of the harness pulling down slowly caused it to fail. it's annoying but a quick easy fix if you have some DIY skills

[@chekelley6861]

Right on!

[@Maurice05]

So, is there any possibility of the cluster impacting the wiper blade switch? As of last Friday, my wipers wouldn't turn off. I had to pull the fuse under the dash at the same time I replaced both of my batteries. Now I'm having the other issues you described with my Windows doors and radio after the battery swap

[@coloradodirtriders]

keep up the great work

[@NewLevelAuto]

+jon dukeminier Thank you for watching !

[@livalittle100]

Great job!

[@aengmax]

New subbie.. Eric and Ivan sent me. Haha, Great video, btw.. no brake cleaner?? Keep it up.. once you get used too talking to a camera. it will be like we are there..