Ford Focus Electric First Impressions!

[@thatthreekid]

Such an awesome interview. Really humanizing and a great demonstration of how accessible EVs can be as the second car in a household.

[@GregHassler]

The 2017-2018 Ford Focus Electric (last two years before it was discontinued) has a larger battery pack and CCS charging with great thermal management. Rated 115 miles (realistic in warm weather), and has a really good DC charging profile that doesn't taper until high 80% or low 90% range. I have 38,000 miles on my 2017. It's a pretty nice car. We also have a Model 3. Nobody knows this car exists, Ben, don't feel bad.

[@morbotheturtle3796]

"Realistic warm weather" *sad Phoenix noises* 😂

[@sneakywan]

Yep, just bought out my 2017 at the end of the lease because it's such a great car... next additional EV will be AWD for winter driving.

[@GregHassler]

@@morbotheturtle3796 LOL. Well range drops much less with high AC usage than heater usage. I drop to ~80 miles in sub-freezing weather.

[@diacoder]

I drove my FFE for five years. I loved it. There were only two or three days where I wish I had a few more miles. Super affordable and the best decision ever.

[@marc_benton]

True story... the reason I bought my first EV back in 2017 (the Fiat 500E and then the Bolt) was because a good friend had this car, a Ford Focus EV and he showed me how much money I could save driving an EV. He did a burn out (front wheel drive) pulling out of my driveway and I was sold. Hahahaha

[@hansenluu]

Seems odds to get the 500E and Bolt when the 3 is much better. Brand new 500E costs as much as a model 3 too.

[@Alex-pu3ef]

@@hansenluu he got used 500E its dirt cheap! No1 buys new fiat 500E

[@hansenluu]

@@Alex-pu3ef what does that say about the FIAT 500E. lol. And if NO1 buys new fiat 500E, where is this one coming from??

[@hansenluu]

@@Alex-pu3ef Btw, Marc never said he got the Fiat 500E used...

[@Alex-pu3ef]

@@hansenluu They come from Lease and ultra dumb ppl that buy new , fiat 500e price goes down like crazy

[@GoSolarPlz]

Love this car. I leased a 2013 focus electric for 3 years and loved it. I then leased a 2017 focus electric and love it even more! The lease just ended and I bought the car. The 2017 and 2018 have a bigger battery than previous models (33.5kwh battery vs 23 kWh) and it has 50kw DC fast charging in addition to level 1 (110 volt ) and level 2 (220 volt) charging capability . Older models didn’t have DC charging available. It’s amazing for 99% of my daily use needs and with DC charging I can take it on longer journeys. It’s reliable and affordable and doesn’t pollute. Maintenance requirements are only wiper blades and annual tire rotations! It seats 5 and the rear seats can fold down. Used 2017s can be had at less than $20,000 Canadian with low mileage. Plus it has a 8 year 160,000km battery warranty! All focus evs have a liquid cooled and heated battery (unlike the leaf) for longer range and battery life. No brainer for drastically cutting your monthly fuel and maintenance bills. Highly recommended. Feel free to message me with any questions.

[@martymar7465]

Hi I do own 2018 Ford Focus electric with CCS Dc fast charging and 33.5 kwh battery pack and is fantastic 500 miles daily trips I do with no problem usualy takes 20 min to charge up

[@stevencorrea7982]

Please tell me you have a liquid cool battery?

[@martymar7465]

@@stevencorrea7982 yes it is liquid cooling and even activ cooling via ac compressor same like Tesla

[@ronalaska2472]

I love my 2013 Focus I drove to work for years and never had any problem! I bought it off lease for $9K and never regretted it! I love it because it has regular controls, knobs and buttons! I fell into the idea of a Tesla M-Y but our new Dodge has some controls on a screen and going through the menus got me and my wife to give up on it! I almost bought the Y but the fit and finish scared me long enough to realize we don’t even want any new gas cars with screens! Even though we can easily buy any car we are stuck with low end cars with less screens! Maybe more cars will go back to wiper switches and seat heat buttons etc. I see many people complaining about the problems with screens so we shall see!

[@billyhouse1943]

Thanks Ben. I just last week brought a 2017 FFE. I’m 77yo retired and live in Georgetown Tx retirement community SunCity. I reserved a mustang Mach-E GT. Always wanted a mustang back in 1964/65. Next year I’ll have one. Brought the Focus to get to know driving electric and so far great. Less than $15k inc sales tax. Charges up overnight on 110v. My friend has 240v on her ranch which is fast for my 70 miles return trip. I’m still keeping my full size SUV.

[@charlesfischer4305]

I have a 2016 Ford Focus Electric. It has the same range as the 2014 model (76 miles). I drive a lot for work. I average over 21,000 miles a year. It is a great commuter car. I am using it as a bridge car. That is to prolong the life of my 40 MPG gas guzzling hybrid until I can afford a long range EV. I have never come close to running out of juice. I do charge at work.

[@scottmohrman]

I have a 2016 Chevy Spark EV for my commuter car. I bought it for $10,000. I get at most 75-80 mile range but my daily commuter is 42 miles.

[@StephenDeLaRosa]

The Chromebook of EVs

[@hansenluu]

Not really. We are talking about used cars. Nissan Leaf would fit that title though.

[@sirousmohseni4]

Excellent conversation. I own a Model 3 but I find this conversation on point that does not get old. Thanks Ben.

[@clemslee]

Love the return to affordable EVs, appreciate the surgical mask Ben!

[@aidenbagshaw5573]

What a coincidence! We just purchased a 2017 Ford Focus Electric; we pick up the car on Saturday! It has a much longer range, as well as DC fast charging. Here in Canada, where cars only last about eight years before they fall apart due to rust, most EVs make little to no sense financially. The FFE is the only vehicle on the market that does. If you think I’m exaggerating, the only other somewhat viable option was a 2016 Kia Soul EV that had been used as a taxi, had almost 200,000km on it, and was selling for $12,000, keeping in mind that a 2016 in Canada has four years left before it’s an unsafe rust heap.

[@Joshjames1234]

I already loved Nathan Fletcher before because of his push towards electrifying MTS, but I had no idea he drove a gen 1 Ford Focus Electric! A true public servant!

[@hansenluu]

How about some EV credits (subsidizes) for public servant to buy a better EV? They cant push EV adoption if they cant drive one themselves.

[@frederick6886]

Nathan is awesome! Very well spoken and logical. Great friend to have.

[@jacksonbangs6603]

I drive a used 2015 Nissan Leaf. It cost me around $7,000 and gets anywhere from 60 to 80 miles per charge. It still has 10 of 12 bars of battery capacity and is 100% paid for. I want my next electric vehicle to be the Tesla Cyber Truck.

[@drjaye1962]

maddddd props 2 this public servant, he has his finger on the pulse of what we need, (his future is bright, kinda reminds me of Quomo (i'd vote 4 him) thx Ben, (OLF) this is what we need, the high end n the entry level), I can hear Jenny saying in the background "Yesssss)....keep up the great work...(love San Diego)...peace

[@taoh780]

I've driven this car a few times between La Jolla and Rancho Cucamonga. It requires slipstreaming big rigs, stopping at Pala Mesa for a few hours, keeping the power consumption as low as possible. Total trip time is probably 4-6 hours. For driving around SD however, it does pretty well.

[@fullyelectric]

Well done Ben, I got that same car new for my son back in 2014, we first seeing that car at the NY auto show . still have pictures of the concept that ended up looking the same as production.. when the car came out though I had to get it from CA as there was no dealer in NY that had one, anyways he only really used it for school and around town etc.. wish we still have it however he sold it just before going into the Air Forced.. soon a Ford Mach E will be in his future as well. BTW the 2012-2014’s with 20-30k miles used go for $7-9k or so today.. well as of this post lol and it came with 5 years 60k miles and 8 years 100k miles Warranty.. I think because it was a compliance vehicle it was not advertised much?

[@bobedwards8896]

good real world use case. nice! even low range ev's can work for alot of people.

[@isthatatesla]

One of my friends drove a Ford Focus Electric for years. He loved it. Great car. Maybe Ford will save themselves and partner up with The Big T. If they don't? Well, we'll see what happens then.

[@billsmith810]

I recently bought my first EV a 2016 Chevy Spark EV with similar range as the Focus. I live in western PA and there aren't many options or fast chargers in my area, however, now that I'm retired it's mostly short trips so I can go 4 or 5 days before needing to charge overnight. My previous daily driver is my 2004 Pontiac GTO I bought new and can now enjoy cruise nights and weekend drives, but I find I'm really enjoying the little Spark often.

[@1995_jack]

I have one of these in the Raleigh/Durham area. It’s fantastic. Haven’t paid for gas since 2019. Highly recommend!

[@loums52]

Nice information. I first purchased a used Chevy Volt to see if an EV was for me. I was so impressed that I stepped up to a heavily discounted new BMW i3. I then realized a few years later that a used Tesla Model 3 was in my price range and now will never consider another ICE vehicle again. My next car will be a used Model X. I don't need a van or pick up but eventually these will also be available as an EV. I encourage anyone looking for an EV to consider the used car market which is another path forward towards sustainability. BTW, a used i3 is also very affordable and a great little car with generous range.

[@AnalogueKid2112]

I’ve been loving my 2013 Focus Electric since I picked it up for $9500 in 2016 (was previously leased). I’ve never run out of charge and it’s a really enjoyable car to drive. Glad it’s getting some coverage!

[@rlsingle00]

Great interview, thanks for the information.

[@liuyangzhaomingying]

great video, I used to have a VW E-GOLF and it's such a nice car for daily commute.

[@QUAZMANN]

I drove a 2013 Ford Focus electric for 3 years on a lease. It was a fine vehicle if the range works for you. Also drove a Kia Soul electric for 3 years on a lease, also a great car. Upgraded to a Tesla model 3 and have never looked back.

[@allenfisher2658]

I was very happy with my 2013 Ford Focus Electric except for the 76 mile range. The trick is to buy a 2017 or 2018 which have a 115 mile range (and then they were discontinued).

[@DanaVastman]

Great discussion! I bought a used Leaf long ago...still LUV it, use it around town....will keep it, share it... only got a Y for range & towing...and insane fun but was NEVER disappointed in my modest Leaf but for the times I wanted to travel farther...

[@TheTaino84]

I love my 2014 Nissan Leaf with its 70 mile range, I can do my daily commute of 40 miles without any problems. I bought it in 2018 and havent had any issues with it. Kansas City have a great charging infrastructure.

[@Hardcaslte]

I feel like for 75 miles range just get a Ford Fusion Energi that does like 40 miles on electric for around town then switches to hybrid mode for as long as you want to go. Otherwise go full electric with 200+ miles range.

[@formerKUSIperson]

Nice video! Look forward to the interview and to see what more improvements can be made to increase the charging infrastructure around San Diego.

[@vstraylight]

When our Smart car dies, I definitely want to get a small used electric like the 500e or this one.

[@jandmharper]

This is why I bought a BMW i3. You can find plenty in the mid teens that are just a few years old. Plenty of cool options out there now. Older VW E Golf, Nissan Leaf, Kia Soul EV’s, all probably available for under $15000 or even under $10000.

[@markfitzpatrick6692]

Nice video Ben . I love how you are covering other evs

[@matthewcheung7014]

At the end if 2014 I got a 2015 leaf and my experience has been pretty similar. I don’t know what a used model S would have run, but I think the leaf was the cheapest option. I’ve had a similar experience with it and now that everyone is home we pretty much use it exclusively unless we need to go long distance. Probably go Tesla for both next.

[@Huso9922]

Own the Ford Focus EV 2018 (Last model). Yes, had a few issues with charging, currently at my Ford Dealership to get the charging port replace, but other than that. I like it! Got mine 19800USD on the second hand market here in Norway (Cars here are more expensive).

[@GarretL757]

Great Interview Ben, love the guest!

[@nathanfletcher9106]

Thank you:)

[@roodick85]

I honestly think those tax credits should go towards something like those cash for clunkers but trade gas cars in for a used cheap EV. 5k credit would go a long way with something like a used eGolf

[@waaan_]

Great job Ben. Being a long time San Diegan follower of your channel. Really cool to see you interview Nathan Fletcher.

[@stevespawn1]

Good point -my 2014 bmw i3 rex costed me 20k 3 years ago. 70 mile electric range-but no limit if i want to use the rex gas engine. Weeks go by before i use the rex engine. AND-No payment. Runs great, funnest car i ever owned. I think i want model y. 20k downpayment and a 800 per month payment for performance Y.? Model Y is clearly superior. I was thinking keep my bmw-wait 3-4 more years then upgrade battery for 200 mile range.

[@2927usmc]

Was that an Eagle Globe and Anchor I saw? Semper Fi Mr. Fletcher.

[@rantingcullinarian]

I like this guy

[@johnl1945]

A really good piece, Ben. While so many (including me) are dazzled by the latest Teslas, 70 - 90 miles of range is more than enough for most commuters. If you are a two car family, even better. Great job bringing attention to this (and the Fiat). Btw, I’ve been driving EV’s for 7 years here in SD - Leafs, BMW i3’s, Chevy Bolt’s, and a Model Y coming up. I still have not spent 1 penny on maintainance,. Solar provides all my power. No brainer. Really support his proposal of shifting EV subsidies towards lower income neighborhoods. Again, really good piece.

[@Johnny-Presents]

I've owned two Nissan Leafs, a BMW i3 and a Honda insite. Almost bought the Ford Focus, but the trunk was too small. That's where they put the battery. I can say that 80 range works most of the time, but the charging infrastructure is the biggest problem. And it should be the easiest to fix, if we had a national policy.

[@suchdevelopments]

Thanks, Ben for showing EV everybody can afford, from Australia.

[@TeslaRaj]

Always great to understand the EV landscape and all options available. Great work Ben

[@matthewboyd8689]

Don't forget the Nissan leaf the Chevy volt and the Chevy Bolt (The Boltis newer but it's also close to that low price range, below $17,000 last I checked)

[@guyfox87]

Chevy Bolt 238 mile range used for 20k

[@jjsjohnson1]

NATHAN! You have to flip that dryer plug 180 degrees so the cord doesn’t kink like that. The housing is made to have the cord drop down and through the notch, not up like you have it. That is a five minute fix with power off and a screwdriver.

[@Joe-420-69]

In Europe the problem is that the ford dealerships do not service or repair ev. You need to find one that does. This could mean having to drive 100 miles or more to get your car fixed/serviced.

[@TRYtoHELPyou]

The 2017 and up, they have ccs fast charge and 115 miles. Weak tho. Very compact. They made these in small numbers.

[@JonesboroughAerialPhotography]

Public servant salary? You’re a Supervisor. You earn $180,000 salary and your wife is an Assembly member. Your one salary far exceeds that of my wife and I combined.

[@MikeyBadabingBadaboom]

These guys forget their salaries are public.

[@leaflover9625]

I drive a 2015 Leaf with about the same range as my daily car. Never had any problems with range, but my life is kinda boring. We use my husband’s gas car for longer trips.

[@mike77cos]

15 one five focus electric were sold here in the UK, they are a very rare car!

[@robinrutschman]

Ben, I agree not everyone can afford a $50,000 Tesla. So why is the Ford Motor Company Discontinuing this Vehicle?

[@GregHassler]

Ford stopped making all versions of the Focus (ICE and EV) in 2018 for North America.

[@asprywrites]

Fine work, friend. Much appreciated.

[@valderon3692]

You gonna do a Chevy Spark EV next? You laughed about it once in OLF but I find it to be far better than that ford, especially on longer trips because of fast charging.

[@jghall00]

Street legal go kart.

[@charliem989]

Both of you are doing great work.

[@simmonssquad8610]

Really would have one of these if I could... while saving for the Tesla!

[@isthatatesla]

Ah, but perhaps a Model 2 is coming ....

[@tony_25or6to4]

Ben: "I didn't know this existed". No one did. It's a compliance car. They didn't advertise it. Probably didn't want to sell them to the public...only to fleet sales.

[@AdamMansbridge]

"there are options" not in Australia. We have Leaf, Tesla, and just recently two Hyundais

[@ScrotumPole]

wow great sound on this Vid.

[@carlosm6954]

I like the idea of videos showcasing little known options in the pre-owned market. If you plan to make more of these you could look into the Mercedes b-class b250 E or the '12-'14 Rav4 EV (yes! Toyota). Those have the added twist of having tesla engine and batteries in them.

[@bobbyedelmanSD]

great piece. But we need a program that serves downtown high density apts and condos downtown. We sold our plugin because when parking in our 199 unit condo there was NO 110 plugin available and one 220 station that was a RIP OFF to use- deposit and cost to charge. So can we help come up with a policy that encourages ( perhaps reward ) large mulitunit residential buildings to install at least 110 outlets ( either metered or part of HOA fees)

[@Mrbeecash]

Subscribed, great interview!

[@jamesbramlett5407]

I reeeeally appreciated this interview, Ben. Way to think outside the cylindrical 21700 :)

[@teslasnek]

Our two cars are a 2017 Ford Focus Electric and a Tesla Model 3. The thing I hate most about the Focus EV is that Ford programmed it to be slow off the line, like really slow! It has ZERO torque! The 2017 and 18 have 115 miles of range and 50 kW charging, so ours is better than this guy's 2014. The lease is up on it early next year, and I plan to upgrade it to a Model 3 as well.

[@isthatatesla]

One of the cars you own was designed as a compliance car to satiate California. Guess which one?

[@teslasnek]

@@isthatatesla The one I plan to get rid of as soon as the lease is up and replace it with another Model 3? 😄

[@GregHassler]

I have the same two cars, 2017 FFE & 2020 TM3

[@teslasnek]

@@GregHassler Lol, wow 😄 Do you like the focus?

[@GregHassler]

@@teslasnek actually I do, it's pretty nice for a budget car. Drives nice, smooth, quiet, cheap to power, little maintenance, all the usual EV benefits. And I don't have to explain how the door handles work to people. 38k miles on the FFE, 18k on the M3 so far.

[@nathanielgritzman6961]

great vid, 70 miles is more than double the average Australian daily driving range. This is all you need for 97% of your needs.

[@damienvigneron4798]

Older EV are good opportunities in second end, like toyota rav EV, honda jazz ev , chevrolet spak EV and this ford focus EV. Of course mainstream old EV as e-Golf et Leaf are more spreaded and also good choices. I have a old nissan leaf, and two ices cars honda civic and honda fit (jazz here) for far trips .

[@bradjackson1691]

Nathan is for sure not wrong here however when you get out of the California bubble into the smaller cities and rural areas of middle and southeast US then it gets a little more challenging to drive low range, affordable EVs. My city only has a handful of level 2 chargers in town and zero L3 chargers but I drove a Spark EV for one year and just couldn't make it work for my lifestyle. Due to the limited range learning curve, I've made it home to 0 miles left a couple times, once to the bottom of my driveway where I had to use an extension cord to charge it. The issue for some people might come to the point of unplanned trips which can eat away at the range quickly. In the southeast, if you don't live in Atlanta, Nashville, Charlotte, etc. then EA or EVgo or ChargePoint will overlook your market when considering new CCS chargers which makes traveling from city to city a nogo. No beach trips, no trips to the mountains, no trips to a pro sports game, no concert trips. With the Spark, I've had to leave my car at a public charger for hours and catch a ride home from family and friends instead of sleeping in the car. So now I gave up the Spark EV for a much pricier i3 Rex then currently to a Bolt. Living in California with chargers all over the place is the best way to experience life with an EV. The bottom line is charging companies and cities need to make life easier for everyone else in the US or makers need to come out with sub 10-15k cars with at least 250 range.

[@GregHassler]

The 2017-2018 Focus Electrics go a bit farther (over 100 miles) and have CCS charging. I've driven mine 600 miles in a day from Philly area to Massachusetts and back. EVGo and Electrify America have decent DC fast charger coverage.

[@HasanKhater]

Huge fan of Ford, I own one, but I still will have both.

[@Patchworkdaddy007]

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[@alextran8188]

You should do a review on the Fusion Energi

[@omarthecostar]

I wish these cars did more advertisement. Plenty of great EV options that are a bit older going for a good price

[@CraigKirkpatrickInnovator]

In May of 2018 Ford discontinued the Focus platform in North America. Both EVs and gasoline driven Focus hit the end here. I have leased the Focus EV for the past 7 years owning both early and later models. I like the car a lot. It is a bargain at current used car prices. With Ford dropping the platform I worry about repair part availability. For that reason I am moving to the Nissan Leaf in the future.

[@mattr0103]

I don't get why there isn't a bigger focus (no pun intended) on the second-hand EV market. You can get used EVs (even some older Tesla's) for a pretty reasonable price

[@tylerwilliams3897]

We have a few of these in the area and all I have to say is have fun with the biggest battery degradation in the industry.

[@isthatatesla]

Compliance cars weren't built for the long haul. Plus, the weather in San Diego is probably perfect for this EV, other places, not so much.

[@GregHassler]

Where did you get that data from? Leafs, by far, have the largest battery degradation. Ford has very good thermal management.

[@tylerwilliams3897]

@@GregHassler The company I work for has 2 of them and after 3 years we can't even make it 60km anymore.

[@GregHassler]

@@tylerwilliams3897 what year? How many miles? I've had mine for well over two years and have negligible degradation, I can do 120+ mile trips.

[@tony_25or6to4]

There's a 2012 Focus EV for $6000 on Car Gurus (in Fontana, CA) right now.

[@kcaccount9021]

I have this car and I have range anxiety cause it’s hilly here and I’ve never seen 75 miles on the battery 72 at MAX. The battery doesn’t hold up and I can’t go anywhere in it longer than 30 mins without worrying

[@djlondon7956]

Great and very useful video

[@iandonnelly959]

So I just bought one of these almost new (5400 miles), and it had drivetrain failure after 300 miles.... Completely shut down on the highway... Good times.

[@Durwood101]

oh man, I remember that EV. I think its good the SD County Supervisor Nathan Fletcher feels like 70 miles is more than enough, I feel like in this summer heat...running a/c would be like russian roulette in a car with range like that.

[@isthatatesla]

It isn't enough. That's why Ford isn't making it anymore. Well, that, and the fact that they always only made it as a "compliance car." People have forgotten what that actually was. Look it up!

[@Durwood101]

@@isthatatesla Yeah, I know exactly what "compliance" cars are. I drove a Chevy Bolt for 3 years before I got a Tesla....lol

[@michaelalanstlouis]

I mean, this dude has a nice house with a yard in la Jolla! That’s a great trade off right there. Plus he has a inexpensive car to boot.

[@houleronald]

Great video Ben.

[@howardkearney7989]

Thanks Ben!

[@quasarsavage]

I hope the 20k or 25k tesla comes out by 2025-27 ish so I can buy it new after college at my 1st job 😀

[@tomcat124us]

You would have able to get Tesla Model S,3,Y used at that distance and price. That's what Ben keeps saying. You don't have to get new to get it.

[@hansenluu]

Totally. Model 2 hatch back @20-25k would be a killer entry EV. Govt needs to give Tesla or the EV industry more support to accelerate innovation and adoption.

[@hansenluu]

@Thomas But nothing in the 20-25k range even the oldest TESLA.

[@randyhare6527]

A used model S is getting close.

[@gathonar]

Got a old BMW i3,and in a similar situation.

[@jamesdubben3687]

Owning a Tesla model 3 LR and 2014 Nissan Leaf from the second hand market I understand both sides of the EV world. By the way, NO ONE in the family wants to drive our Subaru Outback (2015, low miles!).

[@JJSmith1100]

Which we had any affordable EV's in my country. I see you ask for us to subscribe and click the notification bell. KZbin decided that even if you clicked to be notified that you do not really want your inbox cluttered, so they do not notify you anymore. I loved getting e-mails when my most favorite channels posted.

[@username65585]

For me I need a car that can go 200 miles in the winter. When there are used EVs with that kind of range still in them for under $10K that is when I’ll be able to switch to electric.

[@electrified0]

I'd look into the used Chevy Bolt, I've seen them going for as low as $15k so they may get down there in a couple years.

[@jghall00]

Bolt or Volt. Volt isn't rage limited at all but has 50 miles of electric. If you don't drive 200 miles all the time you make up the extra cost on gas. A Bolt would save on both gas and ICE maintenance.

[@patrickf01]

Great episode!

[@vawlkus]

good luck finding one outside of Cali though -.- Pretty sure there aren't many, if any up here in Canada

[@GregHassler]

There are for sure FFE's in Canada. There aren't many of them overall, I think Ford sold a little over 10,000 of them.

[@FishmacFLTRU]

Great video!!

[@heavensmith8903]

I’m looking to buy a 2012 ford focus electric tell me why I shouldn’t and tell me how much you spend a year on repairs and what is the most expensive things you payed for with this car

[@robertpeck2241]

Has anyone looked into how batteries are made and the strip mining that it takes to get the lithium or the effects of after the batteries die

[@Atgul-z6o]

What is the battery life expectancy? Degradation?

[@kingchakazulu7762]

3 miles.

[@robbob3419]

If Ford brought this car back, I’d be pretty tempted to trade in what I got now.