Ford Focus RS : day 472 : Goodwood breakdown (the REAL cost of an RS trackday!)

Are the standard RS brakes a weak point on track? Why did mine fail? What was the cost of fixing everything?
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[@AdamLeask]

As a spreadsheet warrior, I love your detailed charts into the pad heat and the total cost of ownership. It's not until you start to add it all up that you realise how much our toys end up costing us. Totally worth it though! Looking forward to your drive in the Mk3 RS, that 2.5L motor is a gem!

[@MarkCup70]

Ha ha, I actually view the world, everything, as rows, columns, cells, and formulae...It's how I think...kind of like The Matrix but for geeks LOL

[@sane0matic]

I hope you'll enjoy your ride with the Mk2. I had one myself (blue too!) for 4yrs. Loved it! My opinion about the mk2 vs mk3 thing is: If you're looking for performance, go with the mk3. If you're looking for emotion, the mk2 is for you. PS.: loved your geeky charts! :D

[@mohammedsalimahmed5230]

@@MarkCup70 Are you an engineer by any chance?

[@MarkCup70]

A secret (closet) one, yes! Finance is my main trade, I got my current role in an engineering business because they could see the engineer in me 😀

[@mohammedsalimahmed5230]

@@MarkCup70 I've only watched 2 of your videos so far having recently discovered your channel, you already strike me as an engineer. Wish you well in your engineering business. Im doing mechanical engineering course at uni. Wish me luck for my final year!

[@Mike6rs]

Mark I admire Your approach to any issues and mistakes. You analyse them and You draw conclusions. Great content and thanks for sharing it.

[@totallysimulated944]

I really enjoyed this update. Yes it's certainly an expensive hobby. Worth every penny though. The whole point of the RS is to enjoy it for what it is. I am still to dare the track in my RS but now at least I have an expectation of cost. Good job Mark!

[@stevefox6753]

You have to do it to experience how great this car really is! I cannot wait to get mine back on the track

[@totallysimulated944]

The RS seems very robust and capable straight out of the box. I did some rallying in the late 90's and that was a great way to use up any spare cash you had. It would seem at this point that Mark's thrash around Goodwood was very reasonable all things considered. Now if I was driving we would have to factor in body damage obviously.🙃

[@ashcosmo3854]

Yeah great car, It'll be really great when the block inevitably warps. Probably the most garbage engine to ever go into a car.

[@mutezone]

Excellent video. Many thanks for sharing this information. The most important thing here is not how much money you spent, but rather that you are happy with what you did, & I could see that the more you did the trackdays the more of a rush it gave you. Also you were good at it so no reason to stop apart from the brake issue you encountered. I am really looking forward to the Mk2 RS video. Hope to see it soon.

[@MarkCup70]

Thank you! Don't get me wrong, what it cost doesn't bother me, it's within my means, it just suprised me when I added it all up. People often ask if I'd like a contribution to costs when I take them out on track...I think it would shock the hell out of them if I said sure, 7 laps in one session, that'll be £140 please LOL I'll not be stopping doing this any time soon, although once (maybe twice) a year is enough for me.

[@sparkplug964]

Mate, if it’s one thing I have learned about trackdays, upgrade the brakes, upgrade the brakes, upgrade the brakes. The brake setup is for road use only , just look at the state of the pad that come off the car, I'm amazed to did not have a accident. There not design for racing or trackdays and were never ment to perform like that from the start. I always invest in Racing Pads that are made to work st hight temperature, upgrade brake fluid to again cope with the heat, and then upgrade the disks, again to cope with heat. At my last Trackday this year at brand Hatch GP track I managed to do 7 session, 15 laps a session for 20mins and the brake where good all day long.

[@Kyle.W.Norman]

As always, packed with useful and fun information on car ownership! Thumbs up as pair usual!

[@MarkCup70]

Thanks Kyle!

[@jaegerg2]

You definitely are a man of accuracy and details, good work Mark!

[@icebear_racing]

It happend because of the heat the metal got very hot and soft and then you hit rhe brakes hard and it will deform the pad. Also as the pad wears its ablility to dispearce heat make the problem worse. Left side only will be a mix of the clockwise circuit mainly and perhaps the silders where slightly sticky on that side. For future ref when on a track day get yourself some fans to put infront of the car just recahrgable ones. One for either brake duct and one for the radiator packs.

[@Larry3200]

I think you're the most analytical youtuber I've ever seen lol

[@mjhmotorsport]

Those track day costs are ridiculous!!!! Makes me realise why I enjoy tracking the Clio!!

[@MarkCup70]

Yeah, I do kind of miss the brake prices of my 172 Cup. Pads and discs all round? That'll be £200 sir!

[@chrisbaxter5041]

I would have been tempted to fit grooved discs and yellow stuff pads if I was going to track it again Really enjoyed the video Mark

[@gerardhorrigan5402]

Hi Mark. Glad to hear all is well. Great breakdown of costs and nice vid 👍🏻

[@Alan1978M]

Great video and brilliant insight into the costs of all the fun to be had at a track day in an RS.Cant wait to see you having a spin in the MK2 RS,i lusted over those for years 😍

[@MarkCup70]

It was always the unobtainable car for me when I was running my Clio 172 Cup...I couldn't get my head around having over 300 bhp in a FWD chassis! Driving it last weekend was eye opening...I've started the video edit today although I've had a few issues with my audio from the day, I hope I can get around that somewhow...

[@Alan1978M]

MarkCup70 I hope you can too🤞🏻Looking forward to watching it

[@lasersimonjohnson]

Great video as always. I have driven hard all 3 Focus RS's and yours is the best.

[@wallacedavidg]

Fascinating information. I've taken my Focus ST to three track days and I really don't want to know what the actual cost is. To me denial is just a river in Egypt. I've kept my car showroom stock except for the Ford Racing tune and I'm also very happy with the performance. The only other change was to upgrade the brake fluid to Motul 600° after the first track day at Fontana, California. I have coveted a new RS since announced but the local dealers added so much mark up over the sticker price I could not justify trading in my ST. I'll watch your track day videos for fulfillment.

[@blower1]

Quick thermodynamics lesson - if the ambient was 5 °C up from when you started the day, then that's only 5 °C extra on your brake temps which would have been as high as 500 °C - in other words the ambient temperature had nothing to do with the deterioration of your brakes and it was the other factors (not having enough cool down time, extended use with probably poor modulation and using street pads on a race track). Still live and learn hey! - i have no track day experience, but i am an engineer and technician with a physics background :D - i can build it, i just need to learn to drive it :D

[@lav773]

Your easy to listen too . And you talk about facts I want to know about. 👍

[@SamAustin]

Nice update.....I didn't think it was that pricy though ! Looks like you had great fun and it's a hobby as you say so it can be justified :-)

[@richardjeffrey7785]

OMG!! I have just had a reality check with the cost of the trackdays. I had done 12 trackdays at Goodwood in my old mk3 focus rs and one in the new rs edition. Although I have only had brake failure once and managed 8 track days and daily commute on the tyres and only had to change the fronts. The near side front does take a beating though.

[@FalconXE302]

I thought all those sessions were over a few days with hours between... LoL... No wonder the brakes ended up like they did. Most drivers can't be good on all aspects of the car... for your driving style, it is the brakes that suffer. I would suggest you need to think a little more about "Slow in, Fast out".... your brakes will thank you for it... and your lap times will reduce. Your calculations prove to show how expensive track days can be even when you only have a minor issue. Thanks for sharing with us Mark... and great info.

[@MarkCup70]

Yep, looking back it was inevitable given the frequency of my sessions and how hard I was on them. I've always been able to get through a set of pads in one day at Goodwood, even supposed track pads, almost down to the metal in my Fiesta ST. Fitting a new set before hand is also something I'll just need to factor in on the RS and make sure I do before going out again. Driving style? Absolutely. I was too late onto the brakes, too hard as a result, and too inconsistent with my corner entry.

[@k20aa]

Another great update . Car looks amazing I am surprised you didn't do the rears at the same time , But understand there is still some meat left . Looking forward to your thoughts on the MK2

[@MarkCup70]

Once I had a proper look at them the rear pads and discs seemed to have had a fairly easy time of it on track hence me leaving them as they were. They'll be renewed before my next outing though.

[@Ireland103]

Good update. .great to hear from you

[@evo8forever]

I never enter a track with less than 50% on my breakpads. The first 50% of the pads last 3-4 trackdays, the other half will vaporise in 20 minutes. I recommend Endless breakpads and Girodiscs brake discs. they are really great. And change brake fluid after 4-5 trackdays, goood video btw.

[@timberlinecline3667]

Glad to see it's all good

[@powellj27]

Excellent video as always; been waiting ages to know what damage was done to the brakes and it’s good to know it was nothing serious. I agree the standard brakes are good. I feel they don’t need upgrading unless you spend every other day on track. I have to say Mark your videos are great and very informative. I’ve had my RS since April after upgrading from the ST, however it’s not cost me £70k! How on earth is it that high? I will say the fuel consumption is higher, I tend to only use v power, would like to know if you use super unleaded or if you rotate the type of fuel? (Mines mapped) so i need to use higher octane fuel. Look forward to the next video 😁

[@MarkCup70]

It was £17k not £70k! Fuel? The 2nd engine was fitted to my car that had only had Tesco 99 up to that point so from day one was fed only that, Tesco 99. Having said that, because of Goodwood's location, it had a tankful of Sainsbury's 97 halfway through the trackday. Other than that one tankful it's always had and only ever has Tesco 99.

[@powellj27]

MarkCup70 thank you, I have always used v power but I recently put Tesco momentum in and it seems to run fine. So that’s been a great help. 🙂

[@powellj27]

MarkCup70 also, pleased it’s not £70k of fuel lol 😂 I know the RS loves the juice but you have to look at the plus side and it’s all happy miles. 😂

[@regin756]

6.3 miles per gallon is about 37.5l/100km, that's madness :o

[@outdoorlife7557]

oh and Mark, get yourself down to Castle Combe, the RS will love it there

[@MarkCup70]

I've been to Castle Combe a good few times in the past, I know it would be a great circuit to run the RS around...but the convenience of Goodwood being right on my doorstep is hard to ignore. The short drive there and back, the comfort of knowing I could almost push the car home if it broke really badly, and the beauty of the Goodwood estate all year round mean that for my once or twice a year track outings, Goodwood is likely to remain the only venue for me.

[@hibbs79]

Top vid! Love all the geeky detail. 😁👍👍

[@MarkCup70]

That sums me up. Geek and detail. Yep. 😅

[@blackflagpirate3444]

Judging the corners you can not use the breaks as much I do this on the road.Use the gears to slow you down mate.You did very well on track and I really enjoyed watching you 🏎💨🏁🍻 You could upgrade the pads buddy,thinking of doing the same with mine.The parts they put on the RS are sports spec not racing spec Mark.

[@jamest5149]

day temps will have little to no effect on brake temps other than generating a bit more grip from the tyres so you can brake slightly harder than in the cold. You are talking of a 15 degrees delta between a gold track day and a hot track day, this is a very small change when you consider the disc's and pads will run up to 450/500 degrees on track. I would swap in some pagid RS29 pads or similar pads and always new! plus some fresh castrol srf, but as you mentioned, being a bit smoother on driving and in particular ease up on the braking with careful cool down laps and time between sessions would probably save you any issues.

[@MarkCup70]

This is true re. the ambient temps...but as you say the knock on effects from increased grip and heat in everything else is a factor, albeit a relatively minor one. Driving style is all I'll be changing 👍

[@hdmk213]

Love the video Mark. Have no idea how you can put confidence on a graph! Surely an objective measurement?!

[@MarkCup70]

Absolutely it is, purely objective, but a factor it most definitely is. Even if I stripped it out of my calculations completely I still would have had a big spike in pad 'stess' right at the end of the day.

[@richwilliams9895]

Car ownership costs we don’t think of every day not until you see it on a spreadsheet like that it becomes really scary

[@MarkCup70]

It does indeed! Gone are the times of cheap track days with £200 pad and disc replacements all round on my Clio 172 Cup - the running costs of the RS are in an entirely different league.

[@jasinem]

Another great video Mark. Glad to hear you’ve sorted the brakes out. Speaking of brake I recently notice intermittent squealing noise from front brakes of my mk3 RS at low speed, normally after long journeys. And my car has only 1500 miles on the clock, Just wondering if you’ve ever had such experience with yours?

[@MarkCup70]

Before the trackday I had no hint of any issues at all with my brakes. Since I've fitted the new pads to the slightly scored and worn discs I have been getting some slight low speed squeal. It doesn't bother me though...I quite like it LOL

[@Jademyheart]

Great and very in depth upload there Mark. Did you consider vented discs at all ? That would certainly cool down the brake pads.

[@MarkCup70]

They're vented front discs already...do you mean drilled? If so, no, absolutely not. The downsides of drilled discs far outweigh any slight, and I mean very slight, cooling improvements. Drilled discs on road cars have little to no benefit, and are mostly fitted purely for cosmetic reasons; if I ran some on track they'd start cracking in no time at all!

[@Jademyheart]

When I ran a few in Shalsey I certainly did notice , Brembo xtra's .I do Differ there . On the track / street, a good quality slotted brake rotor and high quality brake pads. the look of a drilled rotor, with a high quality brand, has certainly no chance of cracking. Far from cosmetic appearance at all! Don't be disaloushouned by fitting "ford only product's " Theres Far more ,superior parts available , than just stock F, parts.

[@JordiMoll]

In my opinion if you do some track day events a year you should buy a better brake pads or something that doesn´t destroy on the track. A steel hoose brake hose, new brake fluid and pads is enought for me. Good info about this car.

[@djh5755]

Can't agree more on the pads...I mean what could it hurt.

[@MarkCup70]

I know I could easily try different pads or discs, but knowing what I now know, I don't think I need to. A slight change to my on-track driving style, and more importantly allowing the brakes to rest a bit more, will mean the standard brakes will be OK for me next time out.

[@a1b3do]

Quality video as always. Do you have any plans for modifications or a tune? I don't recall, but have you had any instruction for driving on the track? I'd love to hear your thoughts about cornering techniques, and also your thoughts on the difference between AWD and FWD. It would be great to see a comparison that draws on your footage driving the Fiesta ST.

[@MarkCup70]

No plans for a tune, no plans for modifications. Apart from a slight change to my driving style and giving the brakes a little more time to rest between sessions, it doesn't need anything at all in my opinion. It's plenty fast enough, nothing went past me all day long. Instruction? I have many times at many different circuits (here's me taking instruction around Goodwood back in 2004 kzbin.info/www/bejne/aorCkId5bL2pars), I'm long overdue a refresher around Goodwood though as I've developed a few bad habits! If I can fit it in I might do a side by side lap comparison of my Fiesta ST v the Focus RS just to see how and where the RS gains its 3 seconds or so per lap around Goodwood.

[@raljix1566]

Nice one Mark - Great video....

[@benbradbury3665]

Great insight. I thought track days where cheap 😂 I will stick to go karting lol. Still waiting for a invite to do comparison to an ecoboost mustang....😉

[@MarkCup70]

Remind me...you're local to me...West Sussex-ish? If possible, yes, I'd like to do something...but I'm booked up film-wise until November time. Can you DM me on Instagram?

[@rosshart6312]

That’s a lot for the track day even with lunch. Did you pay more for restricted number of drivers? My local Cadwell Park was £150 last week. Great informative video again.

[@MarkCup70]

This was a direct booking with Goodwood on a 105db day which is always a little more expensive. The lunch was a very very nice thing and you also get as many double-espressos/cappucinos/lattes/whatever you want, all day long. The upside of the day costing this much is that it keeps the sheds away, everyone is there just to enjoy their cars, no one has a point to prove, and the on-track space and ettiqutte is second to none. That's worth paying for IMO.

[@johnhagger8360]

Great update. I am wondering have you fitted any of the clear film to protect your paintwork? Cheers again

[@MarkCup70]

No paint protection film John. I don't really drive on motorways and the rest of the time I leave way more distance to the car ahead than I should really, so stonechips aren't that much of an issue for me.

[@lordsnipe]

Interested in the jacking block that you showed in your video... the ones I've seen on eBay and used look like hockey pucks... do you have a link?

[@MarkCup70]

It was bought from a limited run group buy on focusrsoc.com. A member designed one and had a few hundred or so made...every single one sold. I think he may get another batch made but you'd need to register on there and get your name down.

[@Bs-ot6nd]

Hi mark love the vids mate! Am going to the Nurburgring was just wondering were you got your camera mount that you use to clamp onto your seat head rest? If you can remember pls can you link me cheers

[@MarkCup70]

You can find the headrest strut mount here; www.haguecamerasupports.com/clamps-mounting-brackets/hague-camera-headrest-mount-for-cars Enjoy the 'ring!

[@Zadster]

Should you have got a Mk.2 RS? *Looks outside at the rain scything down* LOL. Nope. I would love to see if anyone else has had the pad deformation problem. That really doesn't look right. Almost like a manufacturing fault really.

[@MarkCup70]

This true, there's far too many garage queens and far too few actually driven and truly appreciated! The one I drive was though, although it's only racked up 50k miles so still felt tight and like new. Pad deformation...yeah, interesting. As said in the video I think it's just because I let the friction material get too low, I gave them too little rest, and worked them too hard. I genuinely think it's entirely my fault...fascinating from an engineering perspective, but something I'll be trying to avoid in the future!

[@s4ms0n1t3]

I appreciate people who like to keep things oem, but let's be honest ford didn't design the brakes for intense track use. Need to go aftermarket with rotors and pads for heavy track use imo.

[@Richiewah]

Try DS3000 OR M1155 Pads, you’ll have no problems

[@kevnev007]

Very good video.

[@jonathanstokes5069]

What a great video.

[@AnkahGreywhite]

RDU didn't shutdown because you were in Sport which doesn't use it as much, Track Mode uses it more. Liked the videos though don't get me wrong

[@MarkCup70]

Does it? Ford's development driver stated and demonstrated that 'race mode' is all about lap time, not getting the car sideways. The RDU when even slughtly engaged is promoting oversteer due to the oversped rear wheels so I think the RDU should do less when in track mode. This is my one major regret about this day...that I was having too much fun as it was and never got around to trying race mode out. I'm really curious to see how it changes the behaviour of the car. Next time!

[@AnkahGreywhite]

@@MarkCup70 from what I was told at RS Academy it uses it more of the RDU and allows a greater angle before the stability control ) which may also be why you pressed in the pad from heat, from the graphs I have seen everything is in Sport in track mode, where in Sport mode AWD, Dampers and ESC is in normal mode. And I think the get car sideways is talking about drift, as racing sideways is lost traction and time. At RS Academy I did the AutoX in both normal and track, the car handled WAY better in track

[@MarkCup70]

Intertesting, thank you. I'll definitely find out if it works for me when I get out on track next time. Thanks for the response 👍

[@AnkahGreywhite]

@@MarkCup70 look foreword to your next video

[@g1598]

wowsers that used brake pads....eeeek! Also where did you get that jack insert?

[@MarkCup70]

It was bought from a limited run group buy on focusrsoc.com. A member designed one and had a few hundred or so made...every single one sold. I think he may get another batch made but you'd need to register on there and get your name down.

[@dano4572]

Next track time bring two personal low volt fans. Use them on the brakes between runs! It can only help!? just sayin

[@MarkCup70]

Ha ha ha. I have considered getting some leaf blowers and rigging them up like some F1 pit team to get the brakes cooling in between sessions. Serious. 😉

[@dano4572]

are you completely happy with the car now?? meaning today's date: 9/11/18. just sayin

[@davidbates247]

Could it be possible that the ford e diff that brake the inside wheel could kill the pads quicker ?

[@MarkCup70]

That's possibly a factor David, but I don't ever feel it doing a great deal up front like I used to when it was at play in my Fiesta ST. I think the RDU keeps the understeer in check well before the eTVC kicks in.

[@RideMyFeathers]

You bought discs which you said you didn't need, didn't you think to check if you needed before buying them lol?

[@MarkCup70]

I had to replace things, that was clear to me, but until I had it jacked up and wheel-less I didn't know exactly how many things I had to replace. I didn't want to have to jack the car up and pull the wheels off to replace the things that needed replacing more than once, so I bought all of the things I might need to replace in case they needed replacing. As it turns out I didn't need to replace all the things I was prepared for and equipped to replace. That makes perfect sense to me!

[@stevefox6753]

Hey Mark where did you get your jacking block from?

[@MarkCup70]

It was bought from a limited run group buy on focusrsoc.com. A member designed one and had a few hundred or so made...every single one sold. I think he may get another batch made but you'd need to register on there and get your name down.

[@stevefox6753]

@@MarkCup70 thanks mate, will check it out

[@davethevicar88]

Time to upgrade

[@MarkCup70]

I don't think so. Next time I go out with standard pads, discs, and fluids, will prove this.

[@peterclayton4385]

Mark, you aren’t an analyst by profession are you? This is the kind of thing I do...

[@MarkCup70]

Ha ha ha, no I'm not Peter although I've worked with and alongside many during my career. I'm CIMA trained myself, have worked in manufacturing and distribution all of my life. I see the world as a spreadsheet and like figuring out and understanding how s*** works 👍😀

[@sane0matic]

8:54 Chief Inspector? ;-)

[@MarkCup70]

Decat needed I think.

[@Bryan-fg3ey]

£334 to insure the rs seems like a really good price?

[@MarkCup70]

It's less than that Bryan, thats the cost so far with my annual bills being apportioned on a day by day basis. Year one was £262 for me and the second year's premium dropped to £246! The joys of having a few years on me and a blemish free driving history 👍

[@herpderp1662]

This is why I shelled out about 1300 dollars for a set of slotted stoptech rotors, yellow stuff pads and braided lines. The stock pads are GARBAGE. Ford got them straight from an economy car from the 90s or something. 40 grand and they couldnt put some better pads on instead of a useless exhaust valve for example.

[@MarkCup70]

I've worn a brand new set of EBC Yellowstuff pads down to the metal in one day at Goodwood as well, that was in an 1,100 kg car as well, not a 1,600 kg car like the RS is. Just sayin'. 😉👍

[@Jasonscirocco]

If you don’t upgrade your fluid and pads before a track day your just a fool

[@paulsoames7980]

I can not believe that you spent that much money on standard disc's & pads the reason why your brake pads bent is because you had brake fade & you were pressing the pedal harder & harder .for the money you spent you could of got some nice pads & discs what you did is utter madness

[@MarkCup70]

Interesting that you could tell the pedal pressure I was applying from the camera angles on my track videos. For the avoidance of any doubt at all I can tell you that you are in fact 100% wrong. I needed no more pedal pressure ALL day long, right up until the point of failure, which happened, as I explained, due to the excessive heat...I had no fade, at all, not once. Convince yourself otherwise if you like...why you would I'm not sure but you crack on with your alternative facts LOL! As for the price of brakes, there are better pads and discs that are cheaper than what I bought from Ford? Link please...

[@ZenzDeluxe]

It's the usual expert kid that knows all about modding a Focus RS from playing Forza all day. The standard brake setup is decent as has been pointed out by a lot of owners and reviews, you just met the point of failure quite fast because of the already worn pads. Swapping into discs that would be worth considering to be an "upgrade" would have cost at least double of the Ford items and potentially (depending on pad / disc combo) less usable for daily driving (as i know you do).

[@outdoorlife7557]

£1,024.00 OUCH !! , but the fun factor, outweighs that cost easily :-)

[@MarkCup70]

Oh yes, it may be a painful figure...but in my mind it is wholly justified!

[@LoveGod16]

Those wheels also don't help with dissipaiting heat.

[@Razors_hell4544]

How have you spend £17,000 running your rs for a year🤨

[@MarkCup70]

It's all there, in detail, at 18:53 in the video 👍

[@dannybhoy0031]

MarkCup70 deprecation isn’t a running cost , nice car though 👍🏻🚗

[@jakey960]

Dannybhoy00 owww yes it is! It’s the biggest cost of running a new car!

[@SprintHillclimb]

@@MarkCup70 maybe a tad pessimistic with the depreciation. What was in new, 31-32k?

[@GetFamousORDIETRYING]

You deserve alot more subs! I'll give a follow on Instagram as well

[@MarkCup70]

👍👍👍 Subscribers or not I'll be doing this for a long time, I enjoy the creative process of planning, filing, and editing almost as much as I enjoy driving, talking about, looking at, cleaning, maintaining, and understanding my car. That others also enjoy what I out out there is a bonus for me as I get a whole load more feedback to learn from.

[@martinjspeed]

Buy a kart - £50 odd per day :)

[@MarkCup70]

Ha ha ha, that may be true in the beginning but i know a few individuals that have almost bankrupted themselves karting!

[@pugz16v]

My god just moans after moans, I watch to see what dribble comes out next!

[@MarkCup70]

I like you. You keep that much needed element of juvenility in the comments on my videos. Please keep coming back. Please. 👍😅

[@tylerwilkerson8188]

The most boring looking RS I've ever seen.

[@MarkCup70]

That's the exact look I was going for, true genuine stealth. Perfect, thanks for confirming I nailed it!

[@tylerwilkerson8188]

@@MarkCup70 yeah i guess it looks like a standard focus, you got it.

[@MarkCup70]

A diesel Titanium was the look I was going for and to most, that's exactly what they see. Those that know, know it's not though. I don't care either way...I can't see the outside from the driver's seat which is exactly where I like to be the most.