Ford's Desperate Call To Action - Can They Stop the Bleeding ?

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[@davidkendall2272]

Come on, let's get Lars over 100ki! his content is always outstanding!

[@MichaelHBallard]

Yes!!

[@andrewsaint6581]

Mary Barra CEO and Mark Royce President have each sold more shares in the last three years than they currently hold in gm*. Why is this not mainstream knowledge? If any Tesla exec sold a few shares it would be the talk of the finance channels. *SEC filings. Referred to in a video from Connecting the Dots YT channel.

[@markplott4820]

Mary Bara LIED, and it Maters.

[@Miata822]

You clearly don't read Tesla's SEC filings.

[@davidlim5]

​Tesla next.???

[@TecnamTwin]

Just wanted to say, Thanks for making great content Lars. I'm never disappointed. And I'm also sick and tired of people just blindly believing what the Ford or GM spokesperson said when contrasted with what they've said and did Not do in the past.

[@Miata822]

Interesting to hear those words from a Tesla fan.

[@psdaengr911]

I don't think it's possible for Ford to survive. Ford management made a fundamental mistake when they outsourced the majority of the content of their vehicles. That outsourcing converted what could have been profit into cost. Ford is in the unenviable position of being an assembly company using union labor to compete with vertically integrated manufacturers using free market labor. Some of those companies are doing it within the US.That means that even if Ford can match prices of comparable vehicles from the vertically integrated company its profit will be miniscule Compared to that of its competitors who can take a portion of the difference and invested in growth and R&D. GM is in the same situation.

[@casperhansen826]

They are not the only ones

[@yourcrazybear]

The risk of bankruptcy is great for many legacy automakers. That's the price of incompetent management.

[@tedg1609]

Union expenses helped motivate Ford MBAs to outsource everything and thereby sell the company’s future for short-term profits.

[@royphillips7644]

Purchasing agents and unions are certain death for companies

[@andrewdancer8520]

Very well put. The regular press just don’t get it or they pander to the Ford and GM and Stelantis lobbyists. Elec. vehicle demand has not stagnated, demand for GM and Ford cars has … and Stelantis are already dead.

[@patmcdaniel2016]

Lets get 100k before JUNE!

[@davidcarruthers7086]

Ford's situation reminds me of the Blackberry without a keypad, still a Blackberry.

[@alexanderschmidt9578]

100 to go 100k soon :)

[@yourcrazybear]

RIP legacy automakers.

[@jgarbo3541]

NO. Legacy thinking CEOs...

[@brunoheggli2888]

Tesla is cutting production in China!Tesla is getting destroyed!

[@Miata822]

@@jgarbo3541 Did you know that Ford spends more than twice as much as Tesla on R&D? Of course you didn't.

[@psdaengr911]

Interest rates were a LOT higher in the early 1980s. My first mortgage was 15.9%. The thing is, you could get a nice car then for less than $5k (my 79 Corolla cost $4500 out the door). By the time you paid off, a $5K car loan was worth $4K and car prices had risen.

[@farmerpete6274]

I remember those times, and sometimes wonder how we all survived - but we did!

[@royphillips7644]

Reagan was elected and fixed it. Democrats got us into that trouble by overspending just as they are doing today.

[@markplott4820]

SO, move to GAZA then.

[@joansparky4439]

also easier to get a job and paid well back then.. progressing monopolism(#) isn't stopping though and if anyone thinks it is going better long term.. I got a bridge to sell. #) monopolism - a societal ideology in which the rule enforcing framework benefits a few at the cost of the rest.

[@kirbykrause7866]

Good summary.

[@peterbroderson6080]

No other company can touch Tesla's computer on wheels

[@jgarbo3541]

That's the "problem". Everything these days is a (computer) on/in X....Phones are powerful computers that...also make calls.The old folks don't get it.

[@randycarter2001]

My biggest complaint about the Mach E and the Lightning is they are just to darn big. My main driving consideration is maneuverability and parking. Most parking stalls are barely big enough and allow no room to get in and out.

[@nezb01]

With the ridiculous union wages they are bleeding out. No way to compete no matter how much they lean on their suppliers. Same for GM and Stellantis.

[@jvaubry]

GM’s EV strategy is different from Ford and Stellantis. GM will only sell new EV’s for profit, hence the pricing above $50k for their vehicles. Starting with the Equinox EV later this year, GM will enter into the lower priced markets and still make a profit on each vehicle they sell. It is a slower ramp-up to full production, but one without the huge losses as seen at Ford and Rivian.

[@yourcrazybear]

@@jvaubry That's a poor strategy. The winners are ramping up their production as fast as possible. Innovating as fast as possible. The losers are scaling back their production and trying to sell their low volume of cars for higher than market prices.

[@G41251]

Who…… will be first to file for bankruptcy? Ford, Government Motors, Toyota or Volkswagen?

[@yourcrazybear]

It will be interesting to see which one will be the first.

[@G41251]

@@yourcrazybear I’m thinking the first to go will be Toyota because they have the highest debt of any company in the entire world… $195,000,000,000 last time i checked. Plus… they have done everything possible to stay away from the Electric Vehicle category… because they can’t afford the billions and billions of dollars it requires to aggressively enter that category. So… as their revenue starts decreasing as EV’s gain market share, they have no where to turn to.

[@tedg1609]

Nissan, Mazda, Mitsubishi.

[@G41251]

@@tedg1609 All of the Japanese car makers will not survive this transition into EV’s. They gave Tesla 2 decades to get so far ahead of them they don’t have the money or know how to EVER catch up. Their best hope of survival is to become customers of Tesla buying the roller skates fully equipped with the software and then just doing the final assembly. They can hang their logo on it and sell a few specialty cars every now and then.

[@markplott4820]

MAZDA.

[@alanhall6909]

Sad to see American titans of industry falter and fail. This is the result of too much focus on quarterly profits and not enough long-term strategic planning. Now they are trying to catch up. Look what happened to fellow titan Kodak.

[@yourcrazybear]

Yeah. It's gross mismanagement.

[@alanhall6909]

@@yourcrazybear But it's what shareholders want and the CEOs only care about making their short term bonuses tied to the quarterly results. They get golden parachutes to bail if things turn bad so they really don't care what happens to the company in the future.

[@markplott4820]

TOO many MBA types @ gm & FUD motors.

[@alanhall6909]

@@markplott4820 MBAs are taught to think outside the box, to adopt new paradigms. I think the problem is the incentives. Everyone is paid based on production and short term profits. There are no incentives to invest (an expense that lowers profits) in new technology. CEOs are supposed to be doing that, long term planning, but that is not what their pay encourages them to do. It is hard to sell shareholders on the idea. They may think the idea is good, until they freak out that profits are down.

[@anudeepmayura11]

Titans my ass.. It's just that they had no competition previously.. Wht with the lobbying to keep others out.. Now that others are here with vastly better products American shitty companies are losing customers fast.

[@jcdisci]

It's not really about price anymore. It's VALUE - What does my money actually buy?

[@jvaubry]

If value is what you want, don’t buy a cyber truck. The interior panels are hard plastic covered with a thin sheet of foam backed white vinyl, the same vinyl material as the headliner in my rv. Talk about cheap! What’s the value in that?

[@richb2229]

Ford must redesign their production lines, optimize Cost of Goods, and redesign their BEV’s around a new unified computer system. They must produce affordable high tech vehicles that consumers want. And they need to do it before Tesla starts selling a cheaper than model 3 model. If they don’t their sales will drop faster than they can keep up with and will go bankrupt. This is true for GM, Toyota, and VW as well. The next two years is going to be critical for the automotive industry.

[@yourcrazybear]

Yes. It will be interesting to watch when they start to fall.

[@robertweekley5926]

Anyone for a "Game of Dominoes?" Or 10 Pin Bowling?

[@youtubemakesmedothis7280]

They were not allowed to go bankrupt before; why will they go bankrupt now? In 2009, the US kicked in some $80 billion to GM and Chrysler; Canada added US$13.7 billion to prop up plants in that country. These companies have a history: "We don't have to worry or manage things properly, the government will always bail us out."

[@MRSELFMADETOO]

100k congrats

[@nathansuss]

Turns out, outsourcing doesn't mesh well with innovation

[@yourcrazybear]

Especially not in an industry with so many individual parts needed to make a product.

[@maxflight777]

For those of us in the UK … it’s almost inconceivable that they stop selling the Fiesta, Focus and Mondeo !

[@user-gh6kl7vu7b]

Asking suppliers to cut costs is just the beginning. Changing to cheaper suppliers will be next. I wish we could see this

[@royphillips7644]

Ford, GM and ram are just now discounting their 2023 model pick ups. The 2025s should be coming out in September. They are in deep trouble.

[@gregculverwell]

Trying to cut costs is a complete waste of time. There is no way that saving a cent or two on component will make a difference - people just don't want their cars.

[@CombatSport777]

I disagree 100%, savings and gains in efficiency can be passed onto the customer. It is that kind of thinking that got them in this situation to begin with.

[@casperhansen826]

Economy of scale and cost cutting

[@darylfoster7944]

People would buy a Ford EV if it were under $40k.

[@yourcrazybear]

Waste of time? Cost is their main problem here.

[@JamesAnderson-lq8tf]

@@CombatSport777 Yes, but you will alienate all your suppliers trying to squeeze them with strong arm tactics.

[@InformedKiwi]

Tradesman will work out how good the Cybertruck really is. What will that do to the core Ford Pick Up business?

[@alexs9137]

Me: Damn. How did annotations get turned back on? Annotations: Can't you see we are in gibberish?

[@vincentdeleonjr1039]

thank you on the head too the point bulls eye

[@InformedKiwi]

If the Silverado EV is as good as it’s presented then that’s more pressure on the core Ford Pick Up Buiness

[@FrunkensteinVonZipperneck]

GM does not have an EV 😂 factory. Silverados assembled in barns on Mary Barra’s rancho😂😂

[@markplott4820]

Shitty silverado EV , is 9,000+ lbs , hauls way LESS than Cybertruck. it CANT even MAX TOW w/ 4 adults & MAX cargo + TOWING.

[@coryturke7336]

Makes me sad to see all the people working in those plants just trying to make a living, knowing they're going to probably lose their jobs :( But then again, with AI and robots, we're all probably out of a job in a decade, lol.

[@alanhall6909]

Very few manufacturing jobs in the US anymore. Jobs are in service and retail now and retail is being decimated by online giants like Amazon. Service will be replaced with robots. You either own capital like businesses, stocks, and land, or you will be poor, surviving on UBI, assuming there is a UBI. Look at Australia and European countries where many youth don't work, just collect welfare. The big challenge will be keeping the poor satisfied and busy doing something or many will turn to protests, violence and crime simply for something to do.

[@youtubemakesmedothis7280]

And driving up prices with a union? I don't feel that sorry for them.

[@coryturke7336]

@youtubemakesmedothis7280 what also makes me sad is when people attack other people for making a decent paycheck. If you were in a union, you wouldn't say that. You're essentially advocating for everyone to not have a good paying job. The corporations love people like you. Their propaganda is working. I'm sorry you don't like it, but unions bring a good life to people who otherwise might not have access to one. They weren't given those jobs, they had to go and get them. Blame inflation through an increase in the money supply by the federal reserve and other central banks, not a particular sect of workers who did what they could to get a good paying job. Not hating, but you should think more about what you're essentially saying.

[@yourcrazybear]

​@@coryturke7336 "@youtubemakesmedothis7280 what also makes me sad is when people attack other people for making a decent paycheck. If you were in a union, you wouldn't say that. You're essentially advocating for everyone to not have a good paying job. " They don't. They only attack the stupid idea of a union forcing much higher wages in the middle of an industry disruption where all the money is needed in order to innovate enough to survive. "The corporations love people like you. Their propaganda is working. " Yours is not. It's better for people to have a job with market wages instead of not having a job at all. "I'm sorry you don't like it, but unions bring a good life to people who otherwise might not have access to one. They weren't given those jobs, they had to go and get them. " People will not have a good life if the unions are killing of their companies. "Blame inflation through an increase in the money supply by the federal reserve and other central banks, not a particular sect of workers who did what they could to get a good paying job." No. Blame the incompetent unions and workers. They literally demanded a big increase in the wages in a period where the companies are at risk for future bankruptcy. "Not hating, but you should think more about what you're essentially saying." You should take your own advice here.

[@gfbprojects1071]

I agree with you regarding the historical and positive role of unions in helping to achieve, and maintain working conditions for its membership. Unfortunately, these days, withdrawal of labour (striking) to achieve demands is becoming less relevant. Machines that build machines are less reliant on their human colleagues, and, more importantly, they are becoming "intelligent". Of course, most of us are still operating on the assumption that Tesla is a car company. It is in fact, a data, computing, robotics, and AI company. Furthermore, over the next decade, the introduction of self driving and robotaxis means that an increasing number of folks will no longer need their own personal transport. The implications of this are profound. At the very least it will make it harder for legacy OEMs to compete and the market for efficient and personal transport will shrink and be even more competitive. It is sad for production line workers in the legacy OEMs, and there needs to be investment in transitioning them to other sectors. But where can they go?

[@talpolano4549]

I'll buy the f150 lightning if it's 1/4 of the price of cyberbeast! 3:)

[@markplott4820]

the FUD Lightning , literally built on HORSE & BUGGY Chassis.

[@DouglasJMark]

Despite Ford and GM’s having pretty good BEVs now, their biggest problem is getting them to become profitable. Good luck to them. It’s a monumental task though.

[@FrunkensteinVonZipperneck]

Ford has crippled suppliers: need 30k battery covers; no, make 60k now! we”ll pay for 10k… Ford crippled suppliers.

[@markplott4820]

FORD , needs TESLA @ inside.

[@brunoheggli2888]

Tesla is cutting production in China!

[@casperhansen826]

In only five years the three major car markets will be 80+% EVs unless something extremely radical happens like Robo taxi

[@darylfoster7944]

80% in five years? China probably, and Europe maybe a chance, but no way in the U.S. That's 12M units. U.S. EV capacity can't possibly ramp to 12M in five years, and BYD won't be selling here with a 100% tariff.

[@yourcrazybear]

​@@darylfoster7944The stupid 100% tariff won't last that long. You simply can't attack capitalism for that long without repercussions.

[@robertweekley5926]

​@@darylfoster7944- BYD is Already selling in the USA! Has for Years! Buses! BEV Buses by BYD even put pressure on Proterra! And as I recall, they are made in California! So, don't think BYD couldn't build a New Car Factory in he USA! They could even pull a "Volvo" move, like "Polestar" and Double Dip!

[@tedg1609]

Expect car Stealerships, oil companies, fossil car companies to pay off congress to screw the US middle class and prevent Chinese EVs from competing.

[@brunoheggli2888]

Nah maybe 50% max!

[@Coltn3125]

The only way for Ford to be able to do this is to force dealerships to stop price gouging.

[@markplott4820]

DELETE all Dealerships & UNIONS.

[@lengould9262]

😮

[@Rose-zf9md]

Keine Chance😂🥳

[@InformedKiwi]

So what’s going to happen in a few years when Chinese manufacturer BYD have built their huge factory in Mexico and have gained a foot hold in the South American Market and come to the U.S. duty free from Mexico and at low prices? Can politics hold them out?

[@yourcrazybear]

Depends on which president decides to attack free market capitalism. Senile Biden has already begun with stupid 100% tariffs.

[@JamesAnderson-lq8tf]

If Trump is elected, it won't happen. If Biden elected I don't know.

[@tedg1609]

Neither Trump nor Biden have many years less. At some point, we may get a politician willing to let car companies compete and lower consumer prices.

[@markplott4820]

BYD cant even OUTSELL the Tesla MODEL Y #1 car in 2023.

[@r.a.monigold9789]

Ford's Dealerships are discouraging Ford EV sales. Traditionally able to average $100 - $500 a month on I.C.E. vehicle Service, EVs can COST $50 a month with "free" software upgrades. Fuel injection parts and Exhaust Systems are NOT covered by Warranty. Oxy Sensors are NON Warranty parts, neither are Spark Plugs, Coil Packs or Filters or Fluids. Dealers see their High Profit Service Departments losing money. Dealers discourage EV sales (despite reports to the contrary). Ford is caught in their own trap.

[@MsAjax409]

I see no substantial and meaningful changes happening at Ford that would give hope that they will survive as a major automobile manufacturer. Ford's business model is burdened with deep-rooted inefficiencies at every level, and they are helpless to deal with it.

[@yourcrazybear]

Yeah

[@markplott4820]

FUD motors , has yet to make any Compelling BEV.

[@InformedKiwi]

Then there is VW, Audi, Kia, Mercedes, BMW EVs all further advanced than U.S. manufacturers.

[@yourcrazybear]

Except for Tesla then.

[@alexs9137]

Why would a company with Ford's pedigree and history even HAVE suppliers?

[@brunoheggli2888]

Because it makes no sens to produce everything yourself!

[@brunoheggli2888]

Tesla has suppliers too!

[@brunoheggli2888]

Tesla is cutting production of the modell Y in China!

[@Miata822]

It's curious how Tesla fans obsess over how the 'legacy' OEMs and other EV startups are doing financially. It's easy to see that these folks don't really follow the auto industry, outside of Tesla of course. It may come from the significant overlap between Tesla vehicle ownership and TSLA stock ownership, something that is not common in the automotive world. Most Ford fans don't own or care about Ford's economics or share price. The company is profitable, has an industry typical PE of 6-ish, and pays dividends regularly. This only matters to institutional investors, Ford retirees, and the conservative investors who hold the stock. The company is profitable, well managed, and relatively stable. Hitting up vendors for discounts is pretty common is businesses of all sorts

[@MyUniversalUniversity]

99.9k!!!!!

[@jup52]

I don't understand why it costs Ford and GM so much to make a lesser EV ??? Most of the parts probably come from China , directly or indirectly through suppliers. Where is all this money going? Is it just a cover up for losing money in the rest of the old car industry and blaming EVs?

[@yourcrazybear]

No. It's not a cover up. They just aren't good enough. You also can't cut costs if you don't ramp up your production. Economy of scales is needed both for them and their suppliers. So far legacy automakers have screwed over their suppliers so many times as well.

[@medennis3467]

Tic-tok ⌛️is running out.

[@macrumpton]

I don't understand why Ford and GM are having so much trouble. There are plenty of ex tesla employees that they could hire to learn how Tesla makes a profit.

[@sparkysho-ze7nm]

@ 7 : 0 0 cybertruck is tank tough . Resist th temptation to stand on th roof of a Ford much less hit it with a gd baseball bat

[@darylfoster7944]

They may be bleeding money from EVs, but they had a net profit of $4.3B last year. They could use that profit to subsidize the EV losses, until they can reduce costs, but they aren't willing to do that because it would piss off the shareholders.

[@yourcrazybear]

In order to reduce costs they needed to scale up their production. Not scale down. They simply don't have a spine. Or a good plan for that matter.

[@darylfoster7944]

@@yourcrazybear but even as they scaled production, they would suffer massive losses for several years, and management isn't willing to do that because all they care about is the short term bottom line. Pension funds and other large holders of their stock would be screaming.

[@alastairhatt360]

So still losing money then. Give with one hand and take with the other. No profit no money to develop or invest…

[@macrumpton]

This tariff the government is going to add to Chinese imports is just going to make things worse for legacy auto. It will allow them to drag their feet even longer so they get even further behind Tesla and China. Every day they delay doing high-volume production just makes their situation worse. They have to accept that they will lose money until they achieve volume production. They are trying to play it safe with hybrids, but that is a losing proposition as battery prices will drop and both Tesla and China will be ready to flood the market with even lower priced EVs (that will be cheaper than ICE cars and hybrids) and that will be the end of legacy auto.

[@brunoheggli2888]

You better worry about Tesla,the incoming numbers will be even more horrible then Q1

[@-GrimEngineer-1337]

Unfortunately for FORD, they are not looking in the right direction. Their problem is design. Look at what Tesla has done to reduce costs through better design, "best part is no part", and vertical integration. Ford must bite the bullet, get better engineers (poach some from Tesla?) and do the same or they will eventually go into a downward spiral as they flail around trying to do things "the old way." Get smart or fail. FORD F'ed up big time when they rolled out the Lightning without even being able to come close to break even on it. Then 200K orders later and they were sweating bullets looking at the losses on paper. It will take them years just to fulfill those initial orders because they shot themselves in the A$$ trying to get it to market so fast. Go back to the drawing board and build a better, more efficient design that is at least break even before trying to roll it out.

[@yourcrazybear]

Sandy Munroe stated before that there was almost no interest from legacy automakers buying their reports, but the Chinese players were super interested. We see the results of that now.

[@andresd6193]

It is too bad that Ford and others can't make good EV's and they are resorting to making crappy hybrids when we need zero emissions vehicles. Hybrids are the worst of both worlds, not really good for the environment as they still pollute as much as 70% as a regular ICE vehicle and they also aren't good for people's pocketbooks as it takes about 3 to 8 years to break even with gas savings the extra money you have to pay for the ridiculous hybrid power train.😞

[@FrunkensteinVonZipperneck]

Lightning & MachEroni are good. Ford does not have a factory to scale up. No profit possible- EVer - without mass manufacturing

[@JamesAnderson-lq8tf]

Ford stock up 7% over past year.

[@yourcrazybear]

There will always be idiots. The risk is far greater than the rewards.

[@JamesAnderson-lq8tf]

@@yourcrazybear So the collective wisdom of the global reach of investors are idiots. And you are far smarter than the market?

[@yourcrazybear]

@@JamesAnderson-lq8tf I claimed that people that invest in Ford are idiots. Try again. And the "market" is just the sum of everything, including stupid investments.

[@markplott4820]

FORD wont survive 2025.

[@universeisundernoobligatio3283]

Ford and GM should outsource their EV production to China. Find some one that knows how to make EV’s.

[@markplott4820]

KANDI K32 4x4 off road , only $27,000

[@sailingonasummerbreeze7892]

Ford will probably substantially scale back their EV business and just focus on ICE and hybrids. If the market shifts to EVs over time (Ford and other OEMs - probably hoping a long time), they may try to do EVs at low volume. Leverage the politicking against EVs, use other ways to discredit EVs and influence policy. Maybe battery breakthroughs (from 3rd parties) might allow them to re-enter the fray. The risk of course is that they will not gain experience and drive down costs on large scale manufacturing. They just don't want to become Nokia.

[@InformedKiwi]

The transition to EVs is happening all over the world, especially in the biggest world auto market China. While many can only think about what’s happening in the U.S. the reality is the U.S. is only 15M out of the total world 80M. The world changing and the U.S. will catch up despite the postering and Politics. .

[@yourcrazybear]

And still they act like Nokia. Not a good recipe.

[@markplott4820]

Meanwhile , TESLA gets PAID $$$ million in EV credits.

[@PaleBlueDotCitizen]

We need to get you off of youtube and onto X Lars.

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I'm real tired of someone or thing editing out my comments. This will not help Lars get to 100K as I will unsubscribe.

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@@ricknoe942 Indeed it is frustrating when it happens. I think YT's AI is keying off certain words. I had said that indeed GM would execute but it would be Mary.

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@@ricknoe942 On mobile, it would say: A)Top or B)Newest. Depending on which is defaulted, it may only shows comments with the most replies and or the most likes and not your latest comment. With a laptop or PC, the same problem may be encountered as you may sort by comments by: A)most relevant or B)all comments.

[@SLHJR0390]

Cyber trucks are garbage, huge quality issues, and you can’t use it like a truck.

[@yourcrazybear]

Incorrect.

[@SLHJR0390]

@@yourcrazybear anyone buying a “truck” that cannot drive in snow or lightly mudded terrain is an idiot. Especially for 100k plus. Even the TFL guys labeled the Cybertruck an “off-roader for people that think about off-roading” a Chevy Colorado trail boss is much more capable.

[@SLHJR0390]

@@yourcrazybear just every other video on the cybertruck exposes how correct I am. You would never accept paying that much more a vehicle with that many issues. Currently in recall. But you’re correct. There are NO issues with cyber truck quality. None. All those folks are just lying to us.

[@markplott4820]

CT is SAFER than any truck in Production. CT also does MORE useful WORK . CT has MORE use case.

[@SLHJR0390]

@@markplott4820 this is laughable. Every single one is under recall for the gas peddle cover coming off. And there are only 6000 delivered, every single one has problems. That’s ford level recall madness there. You wouldn’t accept that from ford why would you accept that from Tesla ?