If You Think the Tesla Semi Is Cool, Then You HAVE To See This Kenworth Diesel Hybrid!

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@Hugo-py2ce
@Hugo-py2ce 7 ай бұрын
The key thing here was, "A lot of this you will never see on the road"
@bryanstackpole1951
@bryanstackpole1951 7 ай бұрын
It's too low to be practical.
@bruceritchie7613
@bruceritchie7613 7 ай бұрын
​@@bryanstackpole195111:10 they do talk about that.
@DocWolph
@DocWolph 7 ай бұрын
But at least it is a happy throwback to the concept cars of the 1980s and 90s, when they made things that were just awesome even if they were never going to see the road as shown if at all.
@sebastianorye2702
@sebastianorye2702 6 ай бұрын
@@DocWolph but is that good? Do we like the practice of hyping things up with 0 intent to ever produce it?
@DocWolph
@DocWolph 6 ай бұрын
@@sebastianorye2702 Concepts cars were and generally still are about what the company is thinking about, what technologies they are developing. They can be anything for a mock-up, which most people don't like unless it looks THAT good. Sometimes they are fully operational research vehicles. And even on up to fully producible prototypes. It is good to hype up these things, even if there is no intention to producing it. A big part of it is simply to gauge were the consumer is. Are they even interested in this, that ever it may be. You could release the most amazing concept car but if no one is actually interested what would be the point ever producing it.. It would be a huge money loser. While even a fully operational concept vehicle may cost a few million dollars to produce, to bring it to full production can cost billions. So it would be nice to just have an idea if there are willing customers for said vehicle. So, it is not merely hype but also product research.
@michaelrugarber3785
@michaelrugarber3785 7 ай бұрын
I remember the top gear episode where they talked about Saab and their bad idea for covered front wheels. You can't turn them when the snow builds up.
@MistaRoyanT
@MistaRoyanT 7 ай бұрын
Also makes circle checks damn near impossible
@manga12
@manga12 6 ай бұрын
@@MistaRoyanT yes the streamliner locomotives had a simaler problem it made servacing a pain and were eventually taken off, when I refer to old steam locos from the late 30's to 1940's in the golden last years of crazy experaments to get more effecentcy from steam or just for pure show, but the pennsy s1,s2, and t1's as well as the hyawathas and dryfus hudsons sure were works of industral modern art with their streamlining.
@randgrithr7387
@randgrithr7387 6 ай бұрын
The lack of air cooling is a serious issue when it gets to be ≥90°f. Blowing a dual is one thing, but blowing a steer tire is a fun ride.
@dwaynecaldwell7595
@dwaynecaldwell7595 6 ай бұрын
​@@randgrithr7387I was thinking the same thing. One good steer blowout, and that covering is gone.
@freedomfighter9046
@freedomfighter9046 7 ай бұрын
Very cool Design for US highways.Good luck keeping this truck in one piece.
@tylerbuckley4661
@tylerbuckley4661 6 ай бұрын
Lmao keep thinking that will not be used
@jaimecastro9659
@jaimecastro9659 6 ай бұрын
@@tylerbuckley4661 hhahhahhahhh good luck trying to drive this thing in southern California..
@tylerbuckley4661
@tylerbuckley4661 6 ай бұрын
@@jaimecastro9659 are you kidding me I own a k100 I will never drive that imitation Truck that ev is a pice of s h I t
@tylerbuckley4661
@tylerbuckley4661 6 ай бұрын
@@jaimecastro9659 and why would i want to drive in commiefornia
@tylerbuckley4661
@tylerbuckley4661 6 ай бұрын
@@jaimecastro9659 that ev truck would never.last on commiefornia they do not have the infrastructure for it
@nathanbannister8502
@nathanbannister8502 6 ай бұрын
Can't wait to watch these new trucks encounter their first railroad track or speed bump! How exciting!
@TheHonestPeanut
@TheHonestPeanut 6 ай бұрын
You known you can adjust ride hight with most modern rigs right? Did you know that?
@Jeff-Vader_head_of_catering
@Jeff-Vader_head_of_catering 6 ай бұрын
Yeah, when you actually WATCH the video and pay attention, he covered this. Maybe don't trigger-post without all the facts.
@jamesco0329
@jamesco0329 6 ай бұрын
By speed bumps, you mean the highways and freeways in the US.
@Angora1908
@Angora1908 3 ай бұрын
Don’t need railroad tracks Just drive a cross I40 in New Mexico 😂😂😂
@chrisborey1734
@chrisborey1734 3 ай бұрын
@@Angora1908that’s for sure.
@ninaalexa6163
@ninaalexa6163 7 ай бұрын
Try this truck in Michigan and those wheels would be uncovered in no time (pot holes). Also some times semis shed rubber and it's heavy and caused damage (when I was a kid the rubber came off a semi and took half of our cars bumper off)
@TFLnow
@TFLnow 7 ай бұрын
It has height adjustable air suspension.
@vitaliyleonov8958
@vitaliyleonov8958 7 ай бұрын
@@TFLnow ok, but what if that tire burst? It will destroy a cover and you could just replace a tire on shoulder and continue to drive. Also when DOT will stop you for field check - how they supposed to check your front wheels? Every driver must go through circle check before driving - how they supposed to do it? It will never go on roads in this shape! mark my words
@selfproclaimednobody4614
@selfproclaimednobody4614 7 ай бұрын
​@TFL No, he's talking about having blowouts and the damage it will absolutely happen.
@mikldude9376
@mikldude9376 7 ай бұрын
​@@TFLnowthat won't help mate , and the first time you hit animals out on the highway which happens often , all that fancy body work is worth nought .
@scottyellis3442
@scottyellis3442 7 ай бұрын
That's what I was thinking, if a tire were to burst "& they often do" say good bye to all that wheel covering. My brother drives a truck "log truck" & he had a back wheel to burst "1st axle closest to the cab" & it ripped off the battery boxes & destroyed the fuel tank. And that was on a 1985 Peter Built.
@platinumjohnson4380
@platinumjohnson4380 7 ай бұрын
What happens to the front end if you get a steer tire blow out?
@rmoore850
@rmoore850 7 ай бұрын
It rips off and flies into oncoming traffic.
@frederickfaller899
@frederickfaller899 6 ай бұрын
Bybu
@frederickfaller899
@frederickfaller899 6 ай бұрын
Better make it out of rubber
@สุภารัตร์ศรีบุริน
@สุภารัตร์ศรีบุริน 6 ай бұрын
Lot of expensive fibreglass blows out with it!
@bruceweirich3733
@bruceweirich3733 6 ай бұрын
💩 your pants
@mariolarouche5318
@mariolarouche5318 6 ай бұрын
When engineers won't consult maintenance mechanics, you get this🙄
@pigidly
@pigidly 6 ай бұрын
Also drivers. Try to do a pre trip inspection on this…
@richardlevari9470
@richardlevari9470 6 ай бұрын
Or truck drivers!
@richardlevari9470
@richardlevari9470 6 ай бұрын
@@pigidlyyou won’t have to do a pre trip because DOT be able to do a inspection either! Lol
@Frontier2022
@Frontier2022 6 ай бұрын
Nice for some woke futuristic movie with not concept of reality.
@cindy6572
@cindy6572 6 ай бұрын
@@Frontier2022 watch iRobot. They have a vehicle that carries robots that look so much like that. Yuck!
@MarkD-tt8qz
@MarkD-tt8qz 6 ай бұрын
Imagine having a blow out how many body panels would be destroyed, and the front width of the steering wheels is more narrow for less stability, just one good kansas/Texas wind gust, and you're on youre side😮
@happydays8171
@happydays8171 6 ай бұрын
They'll have to put air bags on the outside to tip it back up when it blows over.
@kingjames7273
@kingjames7273 2 ай бұрын
Right bro even worse imagine a n attack by a swift truck 😅😅😅😅
@travishartman5662
@travishartman5662 Ай бұрын
Steering wheel size doesn't prevent wind from flipping a truck.
@TherealBrian79
@TherealBrian79 6 ай бұрын
I like the center seat , you don't have to worry about your co driver sitting beside you telling old highway war stories 😂
@rexeverything100
@rexeverything100 7 ай бұрын
Designer is definitely a star wars fan
@supramudkip4250
@supramudkip4250 6 ай бұрын
​@fladave99 the Tesla truck is out on the road though. They are probably only local though and I've only seen them in California. Also I'm pretty sure there's no such thing as an aero truck hauling over 80k lbs that's why they make trucks specific to that industry and why older trucks are doing them instead
@supramudkip4250
@supramudkip4250 6 ай бұрын
@fladave99 and that's why they are only running local especially when their range is only like 400 miles max maybe.
@infinitehexington
@infinitehexington 5 ай бұрын
@fladave99 way to be negative jeez, can't have nice things anymore
@hallkbrdz
@hallkbrdz 7 ай бұрын
That would become a great snowplow in winter.
@chrisgeeseka5168
@chrisgeeseka5168 7 ай бұрын
I'm just wondering how you would do a pre trip inspection. Is there an easy way to inspect things Sure hope the design team didn't forget that part of trucking.
@erikroberts3545
@erikroberts3545 6 ай бұрын
@chrisgeeseka5168 I was thinking the same thing. I imagine the "hood" still tilts forward, but that would be a pain in the ass still to pre-trip.
@randgrithr7387
@randgrithr7387 7 ай бұрын
So the engineers removed one axle, axed the sleeper bunk, and had it haul 15,000 lbs less than a normal truck. "Wow I can't believe the fuel economy went from 7.1mpg to 12mpg!"
@floydrandol2731
@floydrandol2731 6 ай бұрын
Yep, Not a real world Comparison. Single axles are very limited hauling capacity. Truck looks neat but wouldn't survive a year in the Real World. Look for how many Freightliners with low air dam ripped off. It also looks like it has very limited turning Radius. Trucker since 1977!
@samanthaeichhorn4319
@samanthaeichhorn4319 6 ай бұрын
If this makes it to the road what makes you think it will even need a human driver? I feel like that’s the direction they’re headed with designs like this!
@bigbenguitarslinger494
@bigbenguitarslinger494 6 ай бұрын
Empty at a constant 60mph I get 10 mpg out of my peterbilt 579 right now
@randgrithr7387
@randgrithr7387 6 ай бұрын
@@bigbenguitarslinger494 My Cascadia gets ~8.5 mpg at 65mph with 42k in the box. It easily gets 10 with light loads.
@bigbenguitarslinger494
@bigbenguitarslinger494 6 ай бұрын
@@randgrithr7387 exactly. 12 mag for a hibrid is kind of a disappointment,especially given the potential for upcharge for the new tech and difficulty in maintenance when using one-off parts
@lancemcdonald2078
@lancemcdonald2078 7 ай бұрын
As Elon says, prototyping is easy, manufacturing at scale is very hard. Do you really think any of these trucks will hit the street?
@MrGMawson2438
@MrGMawson2438 7 ай бұрын
For sure when pigs can fly
@hammerlane3871
@hammerlane3871 7 ай бұрын
I really fn hope not, cause that will be the day I stop driving
@rmoore850
@rmoore850 7 ай бұрын
Nope.
@zoner__
@zoner__ 7 ай бұрын
So is that Elon's excuse for putting out such crappy cars?
@juanmoreno6071
@juanmoreno6071 7 ай бұрын
Elon musk says a lot of dumb things my friend
@centralplumbing4397
@centralplumbing4397 7 ай бұрын
Just acknowledge The Tesla Semi influence, no one will fault you Kenworth.
@georgejuarez996
@georgejuarez996 7 ай бұрын
One pothole and the wheel covers would be history
@gn0s1s
@gn0s1s 7 ай бұрын
Yeah seems super impractical, also any debris on a highway, toast. What about winter driving with snow?
@truhartwood3170
@truhartwood3170 7 ай бұрын
Try watching the actual video. 🙄
@carholic-sz3qv
@carholic-sz3qv 7 ай бұрын
@@gn0s1s it has air suspensions all around lol....
@gn0s1s
@gn0s1s 7 ай бұрын
@@carholic-sz3qv They talk about low speed air suspension, like semi's already have, but most are capable of 8inches of ride height to clear pot holes etc, this one had 4-5 max. Also the fairings that are cheap to replace isnt the issue, its leaving debris all over the highway when they get torn off, that is the issue. As well in winter condtions, there are highways and passes with mandatory chain up sections. How to do you chain up the tires, on an internal covered wheel system like that, or change out a flat roadside... which happen all the time?
@gn0s1s
@gn0s1s 7 ай бұрын
@@truhartwood3170 try not d riding a bad design so hard.
@rhekman
@rhekman 7 ай бұрын
I do appreciate these kinds of advancements. With more efficient diesels and aero packages for box freight that fits, that leaves more fuel for the loads that just won't benefit - hauling excavators, logging trucks, agriculture, etc.
@angryhairpeice
@angryhairpeice Ай бұрын
Have you ever even been near a semi?
@Hugo-py2ce
@Hugo-py2ce 7 ай бұрын
It's great that the future is going in this direction, just awesome.
@ronsegarra6354
@ronsegarra6354 7 ай бұрын
On what US highway is this gonna be able to travel on? The first chunk of debris or a dead deer, all that shit is getting ripped off.
@jonm7888
@jonm7888 7 ай бұрын
Nobody watches the video. You all just make the same comment.😂
@LowkeyXxx
@LowkeyXxx 7 ай бұрын
On a rail track
@mikldude9376
@mikldude9376 7 ай бұрын
​@@jonm7888Well they are valid comments if you are a truck driver.
@jonm7888
@jonm7888 7 ай бұрын
@@mikldude9376 not if you watched the video.
@TheHonestPeanut
@TheHonestPeanut 6 ай бұрын
​@@mikldude9376did you watch the video or stay ignorant?
@rickbullock4331
@rickbullock4331 6 ай бұрын
How about driver accessibility for doing the pre/post trip inspections? What happens if the truck is involved in an accident and the front end is shoved into the wheel area and steering is compromised? That design is definitely looking an awful lot like the Tesla. Drivers will definitely have to get used to the whole in cab layout because it’s not the norm.
@Lostcause1974
@Lostcause1974 7 ай бұрын
Was the cab weight reduction between dual rear axle to this single rear axle?
@charyuna
@charyuna 6 ай бұрын
Kerbside loading and unloading only. That won't get pass the driveway. Better economy coz you get less payload. That's more downtime and less efficiency. If you had to get 300,000lb and travel overnight to meet the deadline, that's 3 drivers and 3 trucks. We haul 80 tons gross (200,000lb) one truck, 2 trailers in Oz now on main roads, soon may go to 120 tons. That is efficiency.
@ag-om6nr
@ag-om6nr 6 ай бұрын
The US trucking industry is getting dragged kicking and screaming into the 21st Century ! The US still has the potential to be an industrial powerhouse !
@madguitarist
@madguitarist 5 ай бұрын
It never stopped having that potential. It was just ignored by greedy execs who wanted cheap overseas labor instead of quality, American made products. America is a manufacturing machine when companies and governments aren't deliberately sabotaging it.
@mrexists5400
@mrexists5400 5 ай бұрын
Breaking the backbone of the economy for the sake of imagined gains seems like a poor business plan
@Bigzero.Scratcher
@Bigzero.Scratcher 7 ай бұрын
So what happens to the frame when 100psi blows on your steer tires?
@WheresHerb
@WheresHerb 7 ай бұрын
Kinda cool but impractical. I wanna see it after 5 years on these horrible roads 😅
@JoeSmith-v7o
@JoeSmith-v7o 7 ай бұрын
Five weeks on bad roads ought to be enough proof.
@truhartwood3170
@truhartwood3170 7 ай бұрын
Wow, this comment comes up so much! I didn't know so many people commented on videos they didn't watch!
@WheresHerb
@WheresHerb 7 ай бұрын
@@truhartwood3170 I watched the whole video dipshit.
@PonelyPonely
@PonelyPonely 7 ай бұрын
They have a system that you can change the height while driving please watch the video first
@mikldude9376
@mikldude9376 7 ай бұрын
​@@PonelyPonelySo you are traveling down the road at 60 mph and suddenly there is a deep dip in the road , have you got time to lift the suspension? If an animal runs out on the highway in front of you at highway speeds will you be able to lift the suspension to clear it ? Would you have time ? It looks fancy bud , but I'd be surprised if that fancy body work Lasted one trip without damage..
@Jeff-Vader_head_of_catering
@Jeff-Vader_head_of_catering 6 ай бұрын
This is a cool idea. Diesel/Electric hybrids have been used on trains since the 1930's. I have a Diesel car, and I regularly get 52 miles per gallon in the summer. My all time best is 64 miles per gallon. If I could make my car a Diesel/Electric hybrid, I guarantee I could get close to if not, OVER 100 miles per gallon!
@MrMoneyHelper
@MrMoneyHelper 7 ай бұрын
I didn't hear it all, but without that second axle the towing capacity is much lower.
@sparksmcgee6641
@sparksmcgee6641 6 ай бұрын
Yeah how are they claiming full load capacity with two axles under current law.
@h8GW
@h8GW 6 ай бұрын
@@sparksmcgee6641 I imagine only with 3-axle trailers like in Europe(not happening). Or maybe they just decided to have only a single rear axle so it's easier to mess with as a working concept.
@sparksmcgee6641
@sparksmcgee6641 6 ай бұрын
@@h8GW still doesn't pass the load law on that axle. I guess if you only load the trailer behind the front trailer axle. The did it for wieght. Then tested it off road to say it can pull a full load but everyone that actually drives knows it can't do it on a public road.
@jakecarruthers6513
@jakecarruthers6513 6 ай бұрын
The capacity will be lower, but that doesn't necessarily mean it's hauling less cargo since the truck and empty trailer themselves are lighter.
@MrMoneyHelper
@MrMoneyHelper 6 ай бұрын
@@jakecarruthers6513 80,000 pounds total for a conventional rig. Does it hall as much weight or less than a conventional rig. That wasn't mentioned. Each axle has a rating. Less axles means less weight. Were the weight limits per axle created for the truck or for the roads?
@infernoking7504
@infernoking7504 7 ай бұрын
*hits one pot hole totals the entire side of the truck*
@truhartwood3170
@truhartwood3170 7 ай бұрын
It's a video. Watch it.
@1555mrsmith
@1555mrsmith 6 ай бұрын
The front also
@darrenammons5004
@darrenammons5004 6 ай бұрын
OK pretty cool design even if it looks like the Mandelorian helmet, but how does a driver inspect the front tires or even the back tires for that matter? Unfortunately this truck would never be DOT compliant. And when that tire blows good luck getting damaged fairings off to change😂 And then there’s the controls, radio is almost behind you so no way to adjust while driving. What happens when truck mirrors strike a tree branch or clips another truck? Won’t be able to creep into a truck stop and grab a temporary one, so now your shut down till a mechanic can replace or fix $$$$$$$! Not to mention checking oil coolant and a whole slew of other vitals for safe and efficient transport of goods! Been driving trucks 34 yrs and this thing scares the crap out of me, glad I’m retiring in a few years!
@jeff119990
@jeff119990 7 ай бұрын
interesting concept. i dont think the covered front wheel will see production but a fair bit from that will likely go into production trucks. if it just gets production trucks to 10mpg that is still about a 30% increase in economy which would be huge.
@Nun195
@Nun195 7 ай бұрын
This isn’t a production vehicle it’s an engineering test bed, think of it as a concept car but for fuel efficiency.
@hh22
@hh22 7 ай бұрын
when tesla semi did the centre driver position, it was horrible but now kenworth does it, its now brilliant?
@anthonywilson9268
@anthonywilson9268 7 ай бұрын
It's still terrible.
@mikldude9376
@mikldude9376 7 ай бұрын
Nah it still sucks mate , all these fancy allegedly hi tech machines are impractical and inferior to the old diesels which could go anywhere and pull anything . The old diesels where simple nuts and bolts , if you did have a breakdown, they where easy to fix , and get parts for . Make no mistake , tesla trucks and show pieces like this are toys .
@infinitehexington
@infinitehexington 5 ай бұрын
@@mikldude9376 can't wait for you people to be dumbfounded
@angryhairpeice
@angryhairpeice Ай бұрын
No. It's not. It's like the people at Kenworth have never met a truck driver.
@lifjyruss
@lifjyruss 6 ай бұрын
Like a few people on here are saying, What happens in the event of a blowout? How do you access the tires? I mean, it looks pretty damn cool. I just want to know about practicality.
@nd3498
@nd3498 6 ай бұрын
When it has a blow out it's also going to slam to the ground. Trying to repair or tow this truck on a highway is going to be near impossible.
@MrThewhip333
@MrThewhip333 7 ай бұрын
Super cool, looks like space age design from popular mechanics of the future . Love the grill
@KAWTELENUH
@KAWTELENUH 6 ай бұрын
The brakes are gonna fade so fast. I can't imagine this downhill with the wheels covered with no air flow
@imjody
@imjody 6 ай бұрын
Is regenerative braking not a thing on hybrids?
@wendellcrim8647
@wendellcrim8647 6 ай бұрын
How are tire chains installed?
@jasoncentore1830
@jasoncentore1830 6 ай бұрын
You have accident first when the body panels destroyed you can get to the tire
@angryhairpeice
@angryhairpeice Ай бұрын
There is no way this can drive in snow. Even with chains. The snow will be pushed to either side creating berms that the truck can only go straight through. You will be able to turn the wheels, but not the truck.
@Jay-pf6ln
@Jay-pf6ln 7 ай бұрын
So funny how similar it is to the Tesla Semi inside. Acting like they came up with the centered driver seat with two screens on either side of the driver. And that entry and exit explanation was almost verbatim from Tesla. Great job Kenworth, lol
@777Outrigger
@777Outrigger 7 ай бұрын
And the Tesla Semi's now on the road working.
@solarissv777
@solarissv777 7 ай бұрын
Maybe because laws of physics are universal? Musk stated himself, that many features of Tesla truck were copied from high speed trains
@jasoncentore1830
@jasoncentore1830 6 ай бұрын
What about super teams driving? Sit on driver's lap?
@angryhairpeice
@angryhairpeice Ай бұрын
Also, why put the door on the street side, and not the curb side? It forces you to step out onto the highway/street.
@mikes.4136
@mikes.4136 7 ай бұрын
That is an amazing looking truck! It really does look like a bullet train. Incredible!
@angryhairpeice
@angryhairpeice Ай бұрын
Does amazing mean stupid where you're from, or have you just never been in/near a semi?
@mikes.4136
@mikes.4136 Ай бұрын
@ You chose an appropriate screen name. 😅😅
@angryhairpeice
@angryhairpeice Ай бұрын
​@@mikes.4136Better to be angry than blissful. Stay gold Ponyboy.
@JasonWh
@JasonWh 6 ай бұрын
I saw the Kenworth on the road last month. It was STUNNINGLY good looking!!
@billpengelly7048
@billpengelly7048 7 ай бұрын
If anyone else is wondering. The Kenworth SuperTruck 2 gets 16 MPG compared to the Tesla Semi which is estimated to get 20 MGPe. That’s very impressive for a diesel truck! But prototypes are easy, production is hard.
@sparksmcgee6641
@sparksmcgee6641 6 ай бұрын
It gets 12mpg. Listen to the video
@andyharman3022
@andyharman3022 6 ай бұрын
Tesla's "estimates" have been proven to be WAY too optimistic in the past.
@sparksmcgee6641
@sparksmcgee6641 6 ай бұрын
@@andyharman3022 National association of fleet managers always ride I all the new trucks while they are in service. It's part of their convention. They got truck history and expenses on known routes and got to ride along to confirm them. Fleet managers aren't brand loyal thwy want the lowest cost to operate and years of Tesla production has been bought and the list is getting longer.
@h2opower
@h2opower 7 ай бұрын
I use to work on diesel trucks and Kenworth's were some of my favorites to work on. Cummins is doing great things with hydrogen and I'm leaning towards that technology as burning the hydrogen is the way to go as we have a few companies out there that have electrolyzers that are around 95-98% efficient which makes breaking the bonds of the water molecules feasible for use on the road as on-demand systems.
@flyovercounty1427
@flyovercounty1427 6 ай бұрын
One wonders why Kenworth makes the time and huge investment in researching various concepts to build a test bed vehicle like this when all the geniuses of truck design are found right in the Yoo Toob comment section. The zero to 60 time wasn’t even mentioned.
@MXP90DL
@MXP90DL 6 ай бұрын
This shows how much kenworth is worrying about the tesla competition. We'll sell it to coka cola and let them drive 100 of these around and then we can compair
@dougschepers8470
@dougschepers8470 6 ай бұрын
Can they run a refig.trailer with batteries only??
@AppleUploader
@AppleUploader 5 ай бұрын
Lmao bro it’s a semi. Why is 0-60 even important to you this ain’t a Lamborghini 😂
@jstratton
@jstratton 7 ай бұрын
How much will the moose bars impact the range?
@TFLnow
@TFLnow 7 ай бұрын
Great question!
@wizardindustriesusa
@wizardindustriesusa 7 ай бұрын
How would you change the tires in the field?
@joshhaynes3383
@joshhaynes3383 6 ай бұрын
This is the real question that everyone wants the answer to.
@jasoncentore1830
@jasoncentore1830 6 ай бұрын
Tire blows panels off and now you can change tire
@wushock92
@wushock92 7 ай бұрын
7 mpg to 12 mpg sounds great to this Suburban owner. I'd love to get 12 mpg in town 😆 I would think the central driver position would be beneficial from a production standpoint in that KW wouldn't have to have one version for the US market and another for Australia and the UK.Fascinating truck.
@MrGaryGG48
@MrGaryGG48 7 ай бұрын
I think a large portion of that fuel mileage increase that Kenworth talks about it related to the aerodynamic skin and that's quite a stretch for the near future. The driveline they describe could be in production a lot sooner, I would expect, and 2 or 3 or even 4 more miles per gallon average would be huge to a long haul driver. It's killing the big freight companies but it's really hitting the independent owner-operators!! There are way too many trucks sitting idle just because the owner can't afford to stay in business.
@ralphjones587
@ralphjones587 6 ай бұрын
So now we can't look out the window to back up. and that fancy low body work is coming off like my 23 low bumper freightliner once it hit the road
@TruckinDavo
@TruckinDavo 3 ай бұрын
I like it!.. compared to all the other future trucks we've seen, this is my favorite so far.
@TheAfp377
@TheAfp377 6 ай бұрын
The guy said his buddy was getting 7.5 mpg hauling 80K. Im guessing that thing being single axle aint gonna be hauling 80k lbs, so its probably not an apples to apples comparison. Not being a trucker I wouldn't be an authority on that but im sure there's plenty of guys that would be able to clarify. I noticed the Kenworth rep didn't rush to tell us the difference.
@jakecarruthers6513
@jakecarruthers6513 6 ай бұрын
His buddy doesn't "haul 80k." The fully loaded legal weight of a typical truck and trailer is 80k. Roughly 32-35k of that is the weight of the truck and empty trailer. So he "hauls" about 45k. The trailer they used for testing is a van trailer custom designed for this truck. They cut out 7100 pounds from the truck and trailer, so we're missing about 8000 pounds if we're weighing against the legal maximum. My guess is that 72k is a fairly average combined weight for a typical fully loaded truck and van trailer. The only way to really know if we're comparing apples to apples is to find out the cargo weight and the weight on each axle of the loaded combination. If the cargo weight was over 40k and the axles are still legal while they're getting those mpgs, everything jives.
@JuanAdrianRD
@JuanAdrianRD 6 ай бұрын
I think you never visited Europe...
@TheAfp377
@TheAfp377 6 ай бұрын
@@jakecarruthers6513 Gotcha on the 80k numbers. Are you saying Mpgs with the same amount of weight would be a fair comparison?
@TheAfp377
@TheAfp377 6 ай бұрын
@@JuanAdrianRD Whyu do you think that?
@jakecarruthers6513
@jakecarruthers6513 6 ай бұрын
@@TheAfp377 the same amount of cargo weight as long as the axle weights are within the legal limits would ensure the claimed mpgs are legitimate by comparison to a typical configuration.
@davidparkin9017
@davidparkin9017 7 ай бұрын
With the front tracks so narrow, is there a loss of stability or increased risk of the truck flipping over?
@Winnyf1
@Winnyf1 7 ай бұрын
A great ride for reefer or dry van, not for flatbed and definitely nothing I would like to take off road. I hope they learn and incorporate hybrids in the future. You know I have the unique distinction of being an active truck driver and a former engineer, PACCAR really drinks their own bath water thinking this cab as designed for someone who lives in a truck. I would not like to live in this on a day to day basis given the layout. I don’t slam the central seating position, and I like the fact they are thinking of the future. I’d prefer them working with legal to bring something like Blue Cruise into class 8 trucks, that would make a huge difference to real driers and fleets who want to improve efficiency. Thanks for showing the public this beast, it’s an interesting talking piece that’s for sure.
@MrGaryGG48
@MrGaryGG48 7 ай бұрын
I doubt that Kenworth has forgotten how build a sleeper. That bench seat in the video is maybe appropriate for a short haul, local rig but the cross country runs will still need sleepers.
@JohnBrowning-pf9xu
@JohnBrowning-pf9xu 6 ай бұрын
How do you change steer tires on the road? And will it come with a dual drive axel configuration? Also how will a trainer ride with a newbie driver? Without Mirror what happens when the camera breaks or the lighting is the best?
@GracianoMartinez-o3n
@GracianoMartinez-o3n 6 ай бұрын
Trying going over railroad tracks
@csbarnett1975
@csbarnett1975 5 ай бұрын
Very beautiful design. I love concept vehicles. I know there are all sorts of future problems with wheel coverings and such but for a concept, it truly is a sweet looking ride. I'd love to just hear the road noise while riding in it, just to see how much was reduced compared. Lots of good data comes from these concepts.
@hantzjerrypierre6902
@hantzjerrypierre6902 7 ай бұрын
I am going to be Thomas here. I will believe when I see the steering tires.
@MXP90DL
@MXP90DL 6 ай бұрын
Funny if they were 18" pickup tires.
@ethancupp530
@ethancupp530 5 ай бұрын
Bridge law. Both sides are now blind side. Cant inspect steers. Steers are more narrow so higher rollover risk. Snow buildup on steers will immobilize truck. An injector failure means the whole cab is coming off the chassis. What they need to do is keep the dual rear axle. Add fairing actuators to raise out of the way for off interstate use/inclement weather (including a steer fairing cutout). And implement a powertrain rollout system like they used to use in old school busses for pretrip and repair.
@pilotblue6535
@pilotblue6535 7 ай бұрын
Reminds me of the old COE trucks of the 1950’s.
@JetFire9
@JetFire9 7 ай бұрын
Yep, you’ll be first to the accident again!! 😂😂😂
@bartlevenson7851
@bartlevenson7851 6 ай бұрын
1952 bubble nose Kenworth!
@Harrythehun
@Harrythehun 6 ай бұрын
So many positive comments in the comments!!!! I would love to hear more positive feedback from the TFL community!!! No wonder the world is fantastic with all cheering and support from all the old guys!!
@4vinylsound
@4vinylsound 7 ай бұрын
How does the driver change a front flat tire?
@Winnyf1
@Winnyf1 7 ай бұрын
Looks like you flip open the hood and access the tires there, you would need to to this each time you stopped to check them as well.
@4vinylsound
@4vinylsound 7 ай бұрын
@@Winnyf1 Unless they could take the side panel off the Fender that's covering the tires as well but like you said also to check the tire pressure etc.
@atg1338
@atg1338 7 ай бұрын
Drivers don't change tires on big rigs🤣🤣🤣🤣
@4vinylsound
@4vinylsound 7 ай бұрын
@@atg1338 my uncle did, my cousins do. If the driver is the owner they have to check/inspect the wheels n tires. Duhhhhh. 😆 🤣 😂 😹
@atg1338
@atg1338 7 ай бұрын
@@4vinylsound so checking and inspecting is the same as changing the tire? Drivers don't change tires dummy.... don't be so ignorant son
@darrylbrown163
@darrylbrown163 6 ай бұрын
my thing is how does one change the front tires if by somehow the tire has a blowout and since its covered like that, there seems to be no access to get to it? i also want to know if this "super truck" will be able to carry really heavy loads across multiple states with only 1 set of drive tires? does this truck have a way to charge the batteries or will it have regen on the brakes? so many questions needs to be asked and answered...
@icare7151
@icare7151 7 ай бұрын
The NHTSA needs to allow camera side mirrors vs physical side mirrors. Doing so will save billions of wasted energy from the added aerodynamic drag caused by the required large side mirrors.
@aaronw8606
@aaronw8606 7 ай бұрын
Seriously? You do realize that the majority of Congress is so old, they still think cameras steal your soul. Hell, most of them don't even know how mirrors work.
@CJPugh04
@CJPugh04 7 ай бұрын
There are trucks on the road right now with just camera mirrors. Schneider has been slowly adding them into their fleet.
@Pesmog
@Pesmog 7 ай бұрын
I see dozens of trucks every day in Europe with only cameras rather than mirrors as they are being widely adopted by transport companies. 👍
@sparksmcgee6641
@sparksmcgee6641 6 ай бұрын
​@@CJPugh04after market. They can't sell them that way
@Predikant
@Predikant 6 ай бұрын
There are already a number of trucks in the Middle-East and also Southern Africa that operate legally on the roads without rear view mirrors, cameras, with screens similar to the setup on this KW are in use. I would think that the same applies in Europe, possibly places like Malaysia as well? I first saw these in 2021 / 22
@husshardan3511
@husshardan3511 7 ай бұрын
Tesla's Semi is already in production. This Kenworth is 'look what we drew up!'
@TroySavary
@TroySavary 7 ай бұрын
All the major semi manufacturers have been delivering ekectric semis for a while now. Far more than Tesla has.
@husshardan3511
@husshardan3511 7 ай бұрын
@@TroySavary I know Volvo has one, who else? kenworth scrapped their EV semi as they couldn’t make it work.
@nkoster3717
@nkoster3717 7 ай бұрын
Ekectric? How many of those are ground up ekectric? Any on those ekectric units come any close to Tesla’s semi’s capabilities and cost. Good luck googling
@TroySavary
@TroySavary 7 ай бұрын
@@nkoster3717 Who cares if it is ground up electric or not? Thete is nothing magic about the Semi. Thousands of electric class 7 and class 8 trucks have been delivered by other manufacturers vs a handful by Tesla.
@TroySavary
@TroySavary 7 ай бұрын
@@husshardan3511 Mercedes, Freightliner, Mack, Volvo, MAN, Scania, Hino and Nikola are all delivering electric trucks. Probably more I missed.
@blackbeard6861
@blackbeard6861 6 ай бұрын
Never thought i would see a simi truck that couldn't go over a speed bump
@argowal
@argowal 7 ай бұрын
Forget Tesla? They are following their exact footsteps! Just copied the aero, the center driving position, but couldn't do the battery and electric drive train. I'd say they are squarely behind Tesla!
@matt45540
@matt45540 7 ай бұрын
It's a diesel electric hybrid, meaning it's an electric drivetrain and you can plug whatever you want into it essentially. When batteries get better you'll be able to take out the engine and put a battery in its place..... In a perfect world
@perpelle
@perpelle 7 ай бұрын
And how much could the tesla semi haul?
@argowal
@argowal 7 ай бұрын
@@perpelle more than that propotype, thats for sure. Electric motors are way more powerful than any diesel. The question is how far, as the batteries are the weak link in EVs at the moment.
@perpelle
@perpelle 7 ай бұрын
@@argowal Total train weight is the issue, not power. The tesla semi is so heavy that it affects payload. Solvable with less batteries but with even less range then it already has.
@truhartwood3170
@truhartwood3170 7 ай бұрын
​@@perpelleNope. 300mi Tesla semi is
@aussie_wheels
@aussie_wheels 6 ай бұрын
1 thing that no one talked about in the video , if you got a flat tire how would you change the tire since its been covered up at the front of the truck , would like to know how this tire change would happen
@Ryanstuff
@Ryanstuff 7 ай бұрын
When will the regulation change so you can get rid of that stupid physical mirror mandate versus cameras?
@ChickennGritss
@ChickennGritss 6 ай бұрын
How would one do a Pre Trip Inspection? You can't even see the front tires. My opinion this truck lacks practicality, I have driven for forty five years this truck raises several questions capability for making deliveries, PTI looks hindersome, maintenance requirements look burdensome as well adding additional cost of time, labor, and down time. Stepping on dollars to pick up pennies
@icare7151
@icare7151 7 ай бұрын
This is a diesel electric. The engine is not directly connected to a traditional transmission drive line system.
@Ken_Koonz
@Ken_Koonz 7 ай бұрын
Like a train! I like trains.
@PlayWaves1
@PlayWaves1 7 ай бұрын
Not correct, it's a 48 volt mild hybrid. It still has a mechanical drivetrain with a 12 speed automated transmission.
@Ken_Koonz
@Ken_Koonz 7 ай бұрын
@@PlayWaves1 So not like a train. 😢
@icare7151
@icare7151 7 ай бұрын
@@PlayWaves1 Per Kenworth “It’s a diesel electric hybrid powertrain.”
@ALMX5DP
@ALMX5DP 7 ай бұрын
@@icare7151 also per Kenworth "The powertrain is based on a diesel platform utilizing the PACCAR MX-11 engine combined with the TX-12 transmission and a 48 volt electric motor for an efficient heavy-duty mild hybrid system."
@cosme2032
@cosme2032 3 ай бұрын
Nice. My question is if you have a tire blow out? Will it destroy truck? Also stereo system looks old. I would definitely love to drive one.
@morilot
@morilot 7 ай бұрын
Yay. A prototype that never will be built .... Very exciting, not.
@gaetanlefebvre7800
@gaetanlefebvre7800 6 ай бұрын
Lmfao
@MrSterling314
@MrSterling314 6 ай бұрын
​@fladave99 Except it isn't an ev. Did you even watch the video or read the title? They claimed to have made 12 mpg fully loaded. It's set up as a diesel hybrid, and designed to either be a hybrid, electric or hydrogen powered. It'll still probably never be made though
@morilot
@morilot 6 ай бұрын
@fladave99 ? It's a Diesel. Watch first comment later.
@josegardead8946
@josegardead8946 6 ай бұрын
That's why we called prototype.
@dabigisland1
@dabigisland1 6 ай бұрын
Looks and sounds great to me. Copied a diesel hybrid train engine. It works for trains so why not trucks. I like it.
@mehowski
@mehowski 7 ай бұрын
This truck will have FULL air suspension. So at lower speeds you will NOT hit every pothole =D But I think this type of full faring truck will be mostly over the road --- highway spec. At the end of the day Super truck's are test trucks funded in large part by The U.S. Department of Energy (DOE).
@davidjernigan8161
@davidjernigan8161 7 ай бұрын
Too much of the aero on this truck will get destroyed through normal wear and tear. A thrown tread cap or blown tire will trash the side skirts, and driving into some yards to make deliveries would damage it as well.
@anthonywilson9268
@anthonywilson9268 7 ай бұрын
You would lose half the front end if you blew a steer tire.
@bruceritchie7613
@bruceritchie7613 7 ай бұрын
​@anthonywilson9268 blowing a front tire in any semi I imagine is going to be a very bad day
@gb9926
@gb9926 6 ай бұрын
What is the reason for the rippled/dimpled front end vs. flat??
@USUG0
@USUG0 7 ай бұрын
make a series hybrid truck, where the diesel engine works only as generator at max efficiency, and a 100-200kWh battery. Then, I will take you seriously
@Torch4ya
@Torch4ya 7 ай бұрын
Edison Motors enters your chat.
@mikldude9376
@mikldude9376 7 ай бұрын
The problem is you are adding complexity and weight and extra up front cost . Even with buses , a friend of mine has small bus company and politicians are needling him for the farcical net zero BS to replace his diesel fleet which are reliable , have ample range , are easy to maintain . The electric/battery replacement costs more than twice the up front cost of a diesel unit , to hey have unacceptable range and are very costly to repair, but politicians are saying change or else . We have circus clowns for politicians.
@USUG0
@USUG0 7 ай бұрын
​@@mikldude9376 (your) ignorance really is bliss. Do the world a favor and stop listening to Murdoch's propaganda, and above all, spreading it
@conorgraafpietermaritzburg3720
@conorgraafpietermaritzburg3720 6 ай бұрын
Jolly good show- GC driving position saves you having to develop both left and right hand drive. The digital guages also facilitate both metric and Imperial units 😅 Go ahead Kenworth and get it production ready 😅😅
@Alex-ce8ln
@Alex-ce8ln 7 ай бұрын
Soooo how’s this better than a Tesla semi?
@nasimwehbe8410
@nasimwehbe8410 7 ай бұрын
Still has a diesel engine, so it gets way more range.
@jimgrady8004
@jimgrady8004 6 ай бұрын
How's it better? It's diesel and it's a Kenworth.
@Modok51
@Modok51 3 ай бұрын
​@nasimwehbe8410 Gets more respiratory deaths too!
@escalona8764
@escalona8764 7 ай бұрын
So it you hit something like a big animal you're screwed. If you need to change the front tires you're screwed. Do they have to lift the whole cabin with a crane just to get to them?
@jasoncentore1830
@jasoncentore1830 6 ай бұрын
When changing a tire costs $10k
@johnminichielli8957
@johnminichielli8957 7 ай бұрын
"Looks like a locomotive". Locomotives figured out long ago that the most efficient way to move heavy loads was diesel-electric. Unless batteries and electric power generation take a quantum leap into the future, I think long-haul truckers will quickly realize that locomotives had it right. Edison Motors is on the right track. Tesla and all the other battery-only electric big rigs are much too heavy to make economic sense for the long-haul trucking industry. Time will tell who wins this race.
@radioflyer9490
@radioflyer9490 6 ай бұрын
Why would you go back 15 years as a reference point for the efficiency of this truck? Why not use last years numbers? Or have there not been any improvements made since 2009?
@HAHA.GoodMeme
@HAHA.GoodMeme 7 ай бұрын
Super annoying that they are taxing us to death to pay for this crap.
@yacahumax1431
@yacahumax1431 7 ай бұрын
Not true. You taxes are high because the government keep sending billions of dollars to other countries, giving free money to illegals , paying for woke agendas and just plain corruption.
@matt45540
@matt45540 7 ай бұрын
It's an investment, they spend lots of money to improve something so that everyone gets to benefit from it. Better gas mileage, more efficient, quieter, safer trucks. That means reduced transportation cost more than anything
@propertypreparedness6846
@propertypreparedness6846 7 ай бұрын
It’s the same people… somehow EV fans don’t understand corporations. Same people that monopolize fossil fuels have monopolized the EV and lithium markets. There is no free market at the top. I was an activist during the gulf oil spill, I am telling you EV battery disposal is infinitely worse.
@mcsike7264
@mcsike7264 7 ай бұрын
​@@propertypreparedness6846they recycle ev batteries what you talking about
@kolejnipolscykrakersi
@kolejnipolscykrakersi 7 ай бұрын
​@mcsike7264 by throwing them into the sea? Something like 20% of batteries can be partially recycled. Same reality as it is with plastics. BTW: There won't be long haul EV trucks for another 20 years. Look at any truck stop, You might finnaly get that ;)
@elmothedoggy
@elmothedoggy 7 ай бұрын
What happens when the wheel Wells fill with ice? Saab experimented with this and found out that you can't steer
@gtvgranberg
@gtvgranberg 7 ай бұрын
Realy? Well if the Trollhättan-Tractor people didnt get it to work, no one can... ,:) maybe they can make i fly in the air?
@davidrudd9846
@davidrudd9846 7 ай бұрын
Wonder how much Kenworth grifted the taxpayers for this cool looking rip off??
@Syzygy77
@Syzygy77 6 ай бұрын
When Tesla was looking into building full electric tractors I didn’t think that it is feasible unless they are used for local deliveries or within ports. I think that making them hybrid is the best option. As far as batteries adding too much weight, it is an issue but I’m sure most states with give a special allowance for these trucks. Like, if your tractor is hybrid your combination GVWR can be up 85,000, I don’t how much the batteries weigh though so this is a guess.
@gb9926
@gb9926 6 ай бұрын
So it has a single wheel under the cab for steering?
@rafepittenger7484
@rafepittenger7484 6 ай бұрын
How will it go thru mud and snow in the cold northwest
@jimedward3011
@jimedward3011 6 ай бұрын
Do they have good tow hooks up front
@Alarix246
@Alarix246 4 ай бұрын
Funny how the truck which has been heavily influenced by Tesla semi is introduced without mentioning Tesla influence. I appreciate that influence, I'm happy that Kenworth woke up and responded to Tesla Semi, but it would surely be nice to acknowledge their positive influence. I also missed the info about the propulsion system. So this could be just an empty shell without any engine - they said the efficiency was 12mpg, but is it running on diesel?
@JRBull-sd9ct
@JRBull-sd9ct 5 ай бұрын
How do you pretrip your truck if you can see the tires.....
@rhodium69
@rhodium69 6 ай бұрын
What happens when it snows or items laying on the road?
@BiGG_X
@BiGG_X 6 ай бұрын
Nice looking truck... but Im curious about the deer that sometimes get hit. They would do a lot of damage to the front of this truck and considering the low profile aspect, Im curious to what has been considered for this. Slim chance, but still a chance especially around spring and fall. Id hope the front of this truck has some kind of reinforced structure. Im really curious about roadside assistance with this truck too... Cool, but seems like just a showroom wonder.
@markryl-kuchar2373
@markryl-kuchar2373 7 ай бұрын
I know in the medium duty, short route market an ev would make sense but without the ev charging structure in place for a fleet of commercial vehicles a hybrid like this would still drastically reduce fuel consumption but allow the charging infrastructure to be built without overwhelming the current electric grid
@sparksmcgee6641
@sparksmcgee6641 6 ай бұрын
We build millions of houses a year. We don't have any problem getting power to those. And none of you anti EV people talk about that. We build capacity when there's demand, not before. By law. If you have the actual demand, the power will be there.
@BigWhiteCat67RUS
@BigWhiteCat67RUS Ай бұрын
1:41 are those cracks on the splitter?
@joebullwinkle5099
@joebullwinkle5099 6 ай бұрын
Well, as an initial concept, I guess it's a baseline to work from, great to see that they increased efficiency by these huge margins. However, all those plastic fairings wouldn't last a week on America Hwy's. I still see that Tesla's truck is the leader right now, en-route charging infrastructure and mass production are the bottle neck right now. Will be fascinating to see over the next 10 years, where Semi Truck's will head, EV, Hybrid, Hydrogen or something else.
@chuckcts-v3460
@chuckcts-v3460 6 ай бұрын
You have to take your eyes 90 degees from the road to operate the controls on the right side of the seat. How do you get our if it is on it's left side in a ditch? No owner operator will buy a center drive positon, your passenger will have to sit in the bunk area, no out side vision/windows.
@jaredmartin911
@jaredmartin911 2 ай бұрын
The skirts will be torn to shreds on the first real road trip. Just allow some air to flow underneath with some clearance. Truck looks good. The doors are better than Tesla's, even tho they still open to the back. A driver usually gets out and walks... back to the trailer. Also how accessible are the wheels for daily inspections??
@zantefarm2362
@zantefarm2362 6 ай бұрын
I want to see someone do a pre-trip on this truck 😂😂
@curtisoien
@curtisoien 7 ай бұрын
It's been many year since I drove but I avoided backing on the blind side and wonder how hard it would be doing this from the middle of the truck and with no mirrors.
@dooner777
@dooner777 6 ай бұрын
Drivers check their tires usually every stop?
@Bigsteveactiive_ss
@Bigsteveactiive_ss 7 ай бұрын
I wonder what type of training you would have to get to drive something like that. Especially to know everything about the system and how it runs
@dennisn1672
@dennisn1672 6 ай бұрын
Where are you going to plug in at. A hybrid truck stop.
@wayneyd2
@wayneyd2 5 ай бұрын
Loved the rocks catching windscreen
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