FORD Saw My Broken Raptor Video... Here's What They Offered Me

[@MikeWehner]

I feel like this is just one of those instances where the truck was in a very specific circumstance (combination of stress, possibly material choice or failure, and other factors) and something broke. If you watch enough KZbin videos you'll find plenty of instances of one truck surviving a specific trail/climb/condition and another one failing. I just came to this video from a long snow driving vlog where the guy in the TRX got stuck four times and the Raptor (not a 37) and a Rubicon made it through unscathed. On another day, on another trail with the same amount of snow or whatever, it would probably have been different. All of these trucks are incredibly capable across the board, but none of them are invincible. Drive what you like.

[@thegreatoutdoors2246]

I could watch a whole video of you and shane joking around lmao

[@StreetSpeed717]

Like the good old days!🤣

[@TOO_INTENSE]

Start a podcast 👀👀

[@TracyH007]

@@TOO_INTENSE YES😁👍. Podcasts & A scheduled live👀👀👀👀 once in a while would be cool.

[@codychallenger0666]

I agree lol

[@xavierisaac6992]

@@StreetSpeed717 just keep the trx

[@ThatGUYILL]

A wise man once said “if your not first, your last.”

[@willlloyd7762]

I was high when I said that

[@mrhatchyK24]

@@willlloyd7762 same Lmao

[@jeffmoleskivintageiceracin5935]

Reese Bobby

[@Broker205]

Where’d you get that cougar?!

[@hayden0808]

“Don’t you stick that knife in your leg”

[@HoofHearted801]

Suggest you send the tie rods out to metalurgist for analysis. They will tell you the metal content (compare to manufacture spec) and they will tell you what caused the failure.

[@jasondawson4091]

I've been a Ford guy for years, but in 2017 I bought a new Ram and I still love it.

[@BC08]

2017 F150 > 2017 Ram

[@deviantarsenal]

I was always a Chevy guy and bought a 2015 Ram 1500 5 years ago and it has been nothing but excellent! Really changed my mind about FCA/Stellantis. Then I recently bought a 2008 SRT8 Chrysler 300 as a daily driver and it has also been a wonderful vehicle.

[@jasondawson4091]

@@deviantarsenal rented a Hemi Challenger on my last business trip. 🥰

[@deviantarsenal]

@@jasondawson4091 they're a lot of fun to drive!

[@Modelo832]

Perhaps your next TRX could be the 1012 HP Hennessey MAMMOTH.

[@nemesiomartin1135]

Why it’s a overpriced body kit

[@coenward2903]

@@nemesiomartin1135 also been proven it doesn’t perform as advertised

[@basicuds]

I bought a gen3 22 raptor with 37s. Between that and the TRX, honestly I liked the way the TRX looked on the outside a little better, but I loved the way the raptor felt on the inside better, and that’s where I’ll spend all my time. Gotta say for those of us that run into the problem for TRX vs Raptor, we are lucky to have such “debates” lol. Y’all stay safe out there and keep riding 🤙

[@Justin18184]

I'm glad you're keeping your TRX, it's like the new og dirtymax. If the deal goes through I would get another hydro blue, that color is insane.

[@Nick-Edwards]

This comment need upvoted

[@thomascunningham2933]

Buy a oem TRX and Raptor tie rod and put them in a press of some sort and do a stress test till they fail on a video. Make sure its a gen 3 tie rod though

[@Silverhaze78]

Ford has had 46 separate safety issues recalling 6.8 million vehicles so far this year alone. Enough to break all records for recalls by a vast margin. #1

[@Co1eTrain84]

Bronco tie rods are very tiny. They are the same specs, almost, as the older gen Rangers. A lot of guys will bring them with on the trails in case they snap the stock ones and at least they can get home. There are a few options for reinforcing them. Most people will never take them off road difficult enough to break most of them

[@al1087]

Upgrading tie rods is a pretty typical mod for ifs when your lifting the suspension and/or adding power. I’ve done it to every duramax I’ve owned and have never had an ifs issue.

[@cobra12398]

@@al1087 The classic version (2001-2007) were known for weak tie rods and the reason GM subsequently upgraded their size on the newer generations. end- Link sleeves or aftermarket are a necessity when taking this era truck off-road.

[@laurenbeebe8230]

@@cobra12398 they didn't upgrade the tiesrods, the new 2020s literally have the same size of tierod as the early 2000s

[@lee301975]

Right up till the transmission blows at 40k miles then is just like the rest they all have problems all of them

[@Co1eTrain84]

@@cobra12398 I've got sleeves I'm gonna install someday.

[@JGWPSS67]

Just get after market tie rods that are super strong. Selling the truck just because the tie rods break is just, idk. To me it’s really dumb. Hopefully you keep it! I love seeing it on the channel

[@xl600mine]

If i had to guess, what ever caused damage to the front bumper ended up slightly tweaking the tie rods. once they have a slight bend, the force of turning or any external forces on the wheels will cause the tie rods to bend more and snapping just as yours did.

[@TruckerD20]

Glad to see you sticking with what you love in the TRX, I know you did it for some new content but us OG subs would watch 100 more videos with the TRX if you put them up. On a side note maybe make the Raptor the next giveaway, people would love to win a Raptor that was truly tested off road by you…..

[@EvanRutledge]

Trx is a me too raptor. Someone buggered yours but there’s about 100x more guys beating on raptors successfully than trx’s to be fair.

[@andrewholt6642]

i will say, the road noise is 100% from the tires. raptors come stock with k02’s and they ride really nice

[@stevevedell5642]

Mike, I would not throw the old tie rods away if I were you. I would give them to the Ford dealer and let the dealer get them analyzed.

[@judybigbooty108]

Lol they’ll probably just throw them away , it’s not that serious 😂

[@TracyH007]

Conflict of interest. If that happens on the highway, people could get hurt.. I'd get the tie rods tested myself 1st.. Material grade, stress, fracture and tensile documentation.

[@Jeremiah_Johnson139]

@@TracyH007 It could very well be just a bad set. It happens with everything that's manufactured. But if it's not, and more Raptor owners start coming forward about their broken tie rods, Ford's feet need to be held to the fire!

[@bradlaflamme6127]

Good idea

[@XeroCreator]

No analysis needed really, tie rods were bent and snapped on the threads. If I were to say do anything, it would be to take those + some OEM tie rods for a TRX and have them compared and test the quality and something like a bend test.

[@igotursixx2665]

Offroading is Offroading period! Your not a bad driver, your blessed to be in a position with your vehicles and you don't hold back if it breaks you have the money to get it fixed. TRX for the win!

[@johnt6673]

For as long as the Raptor has been out, jumping, baja runs in Mexico, have never seen the tie rods break. Would of went with Rpg complete tie rods if your so worried about the stock ones. I for one have never worried about my 17 Raptor's tie rods.Some Broncos had issues, other's have wheeled there's with no issues at all.. Might be some bad heat treating on these rods as of late? The Raptor R beat the trx on road, they were neck and neck off road.. The trx does have 80/20 power all the time which takes a lot of guess work out. The trx has launch mode which works very well. The Raptor would have to be put in awd/ 4wd and certain rpm's when launching. Most drivers can not come close to getting that right.

[@LightningMcKingSVTime]

And the R is on 37s

[@Six5.0]

The TRX gapped the Raptor R 1/2 lengths from a dig. Rolling race was the exact opposite. IMO the Raptor R is gonna wind up being the faster truck w/a proper driver. Which is why you have to get one!!! We NEEED TO KNOW!!!

[@wvanblaricom]

Glad to see you keep with Ram TRX

[@joes.7536]

I ran in to this with a big turbo Volkswagen front wheel drive. I was eating tie rods every 15k miles. I bought the Mahle heavy duty replacements and never had a problem again.

[@joshuaearnheart2756]

450 hp. Not 500. And also 37s. Rotational mass is a killer. Figured that was obvious when you wanted a shorter tire for the zr1 to go faster 🙂

[@cryodrakonboreas4490]

4 U.S. Code 8 - Respect for flag No disrespect should be shown to the flag of the United States of America; the flag should not be dipped to any person or thing.

[@maddog8911capt]

Just FYI. That plastic piece that is glued to the bumper is to cover the collision avoidance sensor in the bumper. The plastic has to be super precise, otherwise it causes the sensor to fail or not work at all. They cannot put a metal cover over it without disabling the sensor which would disable your collision avoidance, auto brake, and adaptive cruise control.

[@ssnerd583]

GET RID OF THE BLOODY NANNYS AND WE WONT HAVE THIS CRAP ANYMORE

[@silverf56]

I've always liked the raptor more than the TRX. I like being able to be fully RWD. And the raptor is 700lbs lighter. No denying the fact that the TRX is faster and sounds amazing.... still both great trucks!

[@bladejames8208]

I personally think you are making the correct decision. Keeping the TRX "or a TRX" and getting rid of the Raptor.

[@bobmrkus3185]

When you were talking about the Raptor, I was just shaking my head, everything you talked about is what I feel about Ford trucks. I test drive them they are good , but they dont fit me. I am in my 5th Chevy Truck!!!

[@kevmitch6568]

I think you're making the right move, by sticking with TRX. I know a lot of people who have trouble with Fords breaking on the trails. We have a lot of off road country her in Utah. And on another note. I would really like to be your first Utah winner.

[@paulmatakovich9096]

I’ll give your Raptor a good home!!!!!!

[@thomas435able]

You should take it back to that same trail again just to be sure lol

[@7viewerlogic670]

VIEWERS Can we get a truck channel to put out a safety type video about pulling a trailer? There was a tragic accident in Raleigh where a young girl was killed by a truck pulling a float that lost its brakes.

[@MRMechanicRC]

Dude the guy just didn’t believe you at all 😂 TRX for life 🇺🇸🇺🇸🤙🤙

[@TheSilvrSeraph]

Not gonna lie I’ve seen that video… And it was Launch control Vs No launch control. And the Raptor R won the roll race… idk what you think is suppose with these Trucks but in my eyes the my seem even lol

[@CostaDoinBusiness]

My guess would be it was previously damaged earlier on the trail and then the torque from spinning broke it completely . Then once the right one went and you continued to rip on it .. other one let loose … just a hopeful guess from a gen 1 owner

[@CMDAVISs]

RAM FOR THE WIN BABY!!!

[@ambersdarkfox]

Visually that Raptor is a pretty good looking truck. Seems like to me there should be some aftermarket upgrades to make the suspension better. I would always recommend a Dodge over other trucks because I am a Dodge nut but not going to knock how good that truck looks. With some modifications it seems like it could be a pretty solid truck. Though I can see the sentiment in that it costs so much it should come already super solid.

[@carson6980]

Personally I’m more into the fords but I cant really pic a side in terms of performance because both the dodge trx and the raptor r really aren’t baja trucks to be fair as they are advertised. They are more just for show. I know a lot of people hate on the v6 raptors but they take a absolute beating like I’ve never believed. But from experience the only thing I can criticize on the dodges is the hemis are not great and the suspension is rather soft. But also the cummins trucks the engines are way to heavy for. Overall can knock dodges to much. More can overall point out the flaws and failures but they both have issues all trucks do.

[@sethgleason1749]

Raptor R is faster than TRX when driving and off roading. TRX is faster than Raptor when launching from standstill. I think you should try out the Raptor R and see what is like. Please :)

[@shaunmilor]

from factory Trx is on 35's and raptor R is on 37s. on the same size tires I think the raptor still takes TRX from a dig even with the superior trx launch control... on "Throttle house" In a roll race the raptor walked the TRX

[@aarondiaz81]

Lol🤦🏻‍♂️😂😂 have to come out with excuses

[@arkhsm]

@@aarondiaz81 Walked it, are you dumb mate, that's no excuse !!

[@subywrex]

Just wait for the R. Try it again. Let’s be real. You’d have never ended up loving the truck as much as the TRX just because of the motor.

[@MichaelHeckman-nf2nm]

@ Street Speed 717 Glad you are staying with the TRX. You have been very fortunate to have the chance to put both the TRX and the Raptor to the test. I've had the opportunity to drive numerous Raptors and TRX's and have decided on the TRX. Keep the videos coming.

[@GoingOffGrid101]

If you look at the angle the tie rods are at on the ford VS the TRX you will see the TRX are almost level to the ground where the ford is at a 35 degree ish angle and that puts more force on all the steering components. just my 2 cents.

[@arkhsm]

Those angles are NOT stock, that truck's been messed with !!

[@colbyscheeseybuilds]

The tie rods breaking was pretty simple reasoning you had 37 mud grappler tires climbing up a packed dirt hill on wet rocks and leaves while in the trx you just floored it all way up and their wasn’t no you going slow unlike your raptor where you stopped on the hill which was most likely parking on rocks that happened to be big enough they redirected the tires breaking tie rods

[@millerbing3756]

The ford guys are mad😂😂

[@UndercoverBossFTW]

The problem is the person before mike leveled the truck, creating bad ball joint angles in the tie rods. And with all the other trucks that went up the trial don’t have bad ball joint angles, mixed with mud grapplers, with extreme lugs pull at rocks/dirt, that’s the problem not ford. For reference, look at the angles of the ram in video, compared to ford ones the stock suspension the other has almost a 3 inch level

[@arkhsm]

100% agree Boss, those suspension angles from the front looked way too radical !!

[@riffracingteam]

Goose tune the raptor and if you wanna really move get big turbos or if your really crazy rmb sell a bored out 3.5 with 1200whp and top mount turbos it does shoot flames would love to see

[@rudyrivera2964]

Where did you get that shirt?! It looks similar to my bulldog I lost last November. I miss that dog so much.

[@austinowensracing3085]

The TRX won the dig. The Raptor R won the roll Race. The Trx and Raptor R off-road was decided it wasn't a fair race because of surface conditions of the dirt.

[@AutoAuctionRebuilds]

I'll keep my TRX

[@elemental5906]

TBH the only thing that the Raptor has that tops the TRX is it’s rattly interior that has alcantara. (Alcantara probably isn’t the best interior to have on a truck that’s gonna get dirty and get mud all over the interior)

[@andrerobinson4862]

Mike sharing the love with the working class! Congrats on the Bronco!

[@9-seven]

Cringe comment

[@badkarma2202]

Chevy is the heartbeat of America. Ford-Found On Road Dead. I pulled more fords out of trouble with my little Colorado than most other trucks!

[@bubbagumpshrimp9743]

The tie rods might not have been adjusted properly from the factory, the threads have to be at a certain depth on the ends or else there is a danger of shearing

[@bubbagumpshrimp9743]

@CGG_GSS might just be an induvidual lemon

[@dennisw32882]

My F150 sport is leveled with 36 inche nittos and I never had that problem . I take my truck off roading in New Jersey all the time . Had to be a faulty part .

[@zweek6531]

Mike saying “it was just a dirt hill i have it on camera” sound like when i get in trouble and im explaining to my mom that is wasn’t going 154 in a 35

[@bran899011]

The weight could actually have played the crucial part. Mud grapplers are notoriously heavy for size. A few static pounds extra will make a would of difference when you're talking about rotational mass.

[@jamesjanzen9806]

At least go for a redemption run to see if you can actually make it up there without breaking another set

[@StreetSpeed717]

I'm scared lol

[@andresrivera2124]

Tale the trx again 😼😼

[@clarks2001]

@@StreetSpeed717 just bring a backup set of tie rods with you. What could go wrong?

[@kcscustom9759]

@@clarks2001 Thad be a fun job to do out on the trail. Especially getting the alignment at least somewhat okay so you don’t break anything else. It’d be quite a long repair lol.

[@kcscustom9759]

@@StreetSpeed717 I’d be scared driving a Ford too! Fkn thing just might fall to pieces out of no where.

[@rolandwilliams1228]

I'm not a truck guy but what good is a Super Off road truck that you have to worry about off roading? TRX does make Raptors run for cover 🏆

[@TheFunkhouser]

Best ever real life TRX vs Raptor R review! Massive Mike. Epic

[@RhythmPaintball]

I’ve had both the Raptor and TRX. The TRX is bad ass on road but imo the Raptor out performed the TRX by a good margin off road and plus they’re are way more after market options for the Raptor. I was struggling to find stuff for my TRX.

[@mcbadass6180]

Really hope to see TRX for a very long period of time on the channel its a great truck!

[@jackcox5337]

It was the first big rock on the passenger side that the truck wouldn't go over. Bobby said stop and then had you turn driver to go around it on driver side. That rock was big

[@Legendary-2024]

I'm very happy Mike that you decided to keep the trx, as a fan and a subscriber to your channel, I think I can speak for many of your fans here that they would agree that we are happy you kept the trx :)

[@recoilrob324]

At 12:48 you can see the damage on the inner tie rod ends where it bound up when the front end lifted too far. When the inner stops moving but the wheel keeps going....the rod is going to bend then snap. Is this a stock suspension or is it lifted?

[@kingvette7485]

You should have saw how bad my Ram 5500 front end went out on asphalt. At least you were on a rocky dirt road.

[@kingvette7485]

@CGG_GSS fixed it, thanks!

[@christopherhall5866]

So happy you're sticking with the TRX

[@jamikes94]

Congrats Paul, i really hope i get that GT500, ill probably sleep in it for the first week lol

[@isaac510]

Steer clear. I own a 2018 Raptor and the engine has been rebuilt twice. the finance guy that helped me at Ford owned a GT350 for several months before the engine blew.

[@gregkeezee5969]

I'll tell you what happened those tires had too much traction... 😂 Lol 😂

[@jv8296]

I’m honestly surprised Ford didn’t ask for those part back so they can be tensile tested. If they have a material quality issue you’d think they would want to figure that out before this happens to somebody going 80mph down the highway. That would turn out a lot worse than what happened here.

[@bobshowup2501]

Tie rods are much stronger when pulled vs being compressed between mounting points so with the steering rack in front and him going up that hill and the tires spinning that meant the tie rods were being compressed from the wheels to the center as the wheels pull forward and alls it takes is the wheels to get intermittent traction and it would flex the tie rod and bend it.

[@Captain-Awesome]

Mike, It’s a great looking truck! Love the color and looking forward what you will do with it! It is shocking to see it break like that! Edit: The RAM did win JD Powers build quality that last two years.

[@joshuaearnheart2756]

Jd power awards are a joke. Ram also won “truck of the year” in 2019. Thing is, the award was issued in February of 2019… 2 months into the year

[@leefoulds2569]

Also, Companies pay JD Powers for such!!! Conflict of interest much???😉😉

[@Captain-Awesome]

True, your both right.

[@rockies2728]

Yall are there knifes good from there store?

[@StreetSpeed717]

Yes-

[@rockies2728]

@@StreetSpeed717 I brought the blue line flag knife yesterday

[@fatguyonthc]

The moment I saw Bobby’s truck smoke it I knew it had to go 😂

[@StreetSpeed717]

SAME haha

[@ZK_Wright]

‘Ford gotta be using that Chinese steel” So funny yet nowadays so true.

[@matts5859]

This is classic gm stuff. Maybe they used ac Delco tie rods?

[@st3v3npwnz]

The Ram trx is the most iconic truck ever on your channel! Plus you said you don't like the raptor as much, keep the trx, buy another one and give it to me hahahahaha

[@johnnypacholski9434]

you should build something crazy like a 3000gt turbo or a dodge stealth tt

[@TexasRedneck]

Get a GM version and then add a mid-long travel suspension and see if a built truck is better than the RAM. You could also add some forced induction to the GM truck.

[@ikejr3084]

Really hope the raptor turns into a giveaway!!! 🤞🏼🤞🏼🤞🏼🤞🏼

[@fireant1272]

Coolest truck yet, those 2nd gens are the best.

[@NZmellowyellow]

Stay tuned for the next car Mike pretends he’s going to swap the TRX for.

[@StreetSpeed717]

WELL I TRIED. I DIDN'T KNOW IT WOULD BREAK IN 2 DAYS.

[@EDV8ZR1]

@@StreetSpeed717 Maybe a new daily truck can be the truck Bobby bought it's a bit old school. 💯🏁

[@badassjeep1]

Call rpg offroad for top notch Raptor upgrades. And 454motorsports for a proper bumper.....

[@TheHighschoolpranks]

Should definitely try a redemption run on the trail again driving it the same with a spare set of tie rods

[@abdulazizkhalidalarmali7214]

Try the Chevy Silverado zr2 and modify the engine and suspension, and try to create a Zr2 that competes with the TRX

[@JoseNevarez]

Dam I wanted more raptor content 🥺

[@shanestropp6434]

I’ve had nothing but bad experiences with ram, maybe just bad luck got a lemon but don’t plan on going back

[@johnpurtell1142]

On a scale of off road driving skills 0-100 I officially give Mike a 23🏆🏆

[@lukegagnon7051]

🤣

[@dc6953]

And you got 23 likes

[@Mel-oc6em]

i'm a Ford guy...you should give it to me :) It would compliment my '68 F100

[@Rysiej10]

Gotta get the raptor r for sure

[@bradlaflamme6127]

Glad to hear the cheaper more powerful truck seems to be built better. That's awesome.

[@Scott46Lee]

Oh boy! This ought to be a good one 😂😂 I wouldn’t mind to build a Raptor or TRX here on my channel at some point!

[@natea7450]

Think a new Chevy 1500 build would be awesome, since they don’t make a “cool” truck from factory. Coilovers, wheels, tires, supercharger. Everyone does Trx or raptor.

[@daytonraught629]

This

[@drunkpolack7612]

I will say the broncos have the same issue snapping tierods, must be some new supplier issue

[@sykwookiee]

Chinesium...

[@sixpest]

@@adamdodsy84 Basic knowledge but most three year olds could not tell you the difference between a live axle vs IFS Its why they break them doing stupid things off road and get mad

[@TheDamonsta]

@@sixpest well I would assume ford did and spent millions on extensive R&D on the most popular vehicle in America when making the best version of it and concluded that IFS is better for all around than a live axle setup so when things like this happen owners should be mad because it shouldn’t happen!

[@sixpest]

@@TheDamonsta still you abuse the weaker part knowing it's weaker, don't be surprised

[@Deepimpactocean]

So how many miles were on the truck when you bought it?

[@mattboisclaire6691]

The only thing you should get rid of the Trx for is the raptor R

[@zapcity8992]

"I'm not gonna sit here & say Its a bad truck..." You've done nothing but for the last few videos lol

[@arkhsm]

Too the point of being over-the-top offensive to Ford and Ford's generaly !!

[@pistolpete8031]

My guess is you probably hit something when you went into the mud pit. Asked for why the trim flew off and that piece came off of the bumper. Ford designed their bumper specifically for functionality. The bumper that you have appears to be an aftermarket. The cover on the bumper is required for the blue cruise. It’s basically radar. The reason the facia blew off is the water rust underneath the non-OEM bumper and pushed it out that wouldn’t happen with an OEM bumper.

[@cameronhoover7561]

That was water not mud 🤣

[@XeroCreator]

​@@cameronhoover7561 He said mud pit, there is water in a mud pit... as well as mud... as evident by all the mud on the truck xD But interesting thought is that hitting the water/mud pit pretty hard could have bent the tie rods, and the jumping on the hill might have been enough to break them off completely.

[@zantefarm2362]

Keep the ram buddy!It's proven it's capability in every way you can think of.i have a 2010 ram and won't change it for anything else except for another ram.

[@BevosCultureWarrior]

It could have broken mostly in the more crazy parts you drove through before that. And, that last stretch finished it off. 🤷🏽 Gotta get that R though.

[@StreetSpeed717]

The "Crazy" parts? 2 mud puddles?🤣 JK

[@MrWoodyBalto]

@@StreetSpeed717 Hard Water!

[@BevosCultureWarrior]

Someone knew you were coming, and planted kettlebells in there. I think you may have a saboteur in your midst. RAM sabotaged your video!!!!

[@joshuaearnheart2756]

@@StreetSpeed717 again, you can’t be bouncing under throttle, especially not hard throttle. When those truvks bounce, the tires grab really hard. Kinda like if you get stuck and someone bounces on the bumper to get traction.

[@arkhsm]

@@StreetSpeed717 Those were not puddles, and those tires sucked balls !!

[@chrisschieck8485]

Raptor R only lost in a starting from a stop drag race. But a roll race the Raptor R beat the TRX. The tie rod breaking think was just bad luck.

[@asdf51501]

BTW the source for this is that Throttle House video where they did multiple runs. 👍🏻

[@chrisschieck8485]

@@asdf51501 Yes and said the launch control is what won it for the TRX.