Ford Transit vs Ram Promaster: Know Before You Buy

A few of the differences between the Promaster and the Transit. It may make a difference when making your decision.
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[@cwheremonster8870]

Late reply here.. sorry. I’ve had both, with over 150k miles on each. Both vans have issues, as well as bright spots. I am SHOCKED that I enjoy the evrday driving with the Ram over the Transit. I’m going to compare apples to apples here (RWD Ford vs FWD Ram). Again, I love BOTH platforms. But wanted to note some advantages I’ve encountered with the Ram, as many folks are probably still “on the fence”. 1. For a “normal RV style build, one has to go with the extended roof Ford. High wind and interstate travel makes for a constant ship sail effect on the Ford. Can be rectified with after market suspension kits. But this needs to be noted. NOT cheap. 2. Front wheel drive in the Ram makes for amazing turning radius. AND drives fine in snow without chains/snow tires. 3. You touched on the wider platform of the Ram.. I will add: when comparing similar lengths, I can build more living space in a 21 foot Ram than I can build in a 22 foot Ford. It’s not even close. Not only side to side.. but length wise. This is due to so much of the Ford length being taken up by the driver cab area. That ugly squished face of the Ram puts driver/ cab more forward,, leaving you with more living space in a shorter van. 3. I’m a “fridge guy”.. I often travel,for 3-4 months ata time. I can easily put a 7-8 cubic foot fridge in a Ram, with room for a huge drawer/storage underneath. Ford curved/narrow walls just don’t allow for such a thing. Meh, I hate little dorm fridges. But that might not be a deal breaker for many. 4. The lack of drive shaft going to the rear allows for an amazing amount of tank storage underneath the Ram… even a spare tire. I’m able to keep my tanks (heated) under the van on a Ram.. saving me precious build space by NOT keeping them inside. 5. Gas mileage. Hands down winner is the Ram, by over 3-5 mpgs. And now, with the revamped 9 speed transmission on the Ram, I’m running 20 mpgs on the interstate in warm weather, doing 70 plus all day. That’s adds up when you are on the road for tens of thousands of miles. 6. I’m only six feet…as you noted, going from cab to living area is not advisable with the high ceiling storage area on the Ford. In fact, I couldn’t even consider adding one to my current Transit. For extended part timing or full timing, this lack of storage space is a deal breaker for me. Please note, I still own both. AND if AWD/4WD vans are your priority, then a AWD Transit vs. a AWD Sprinter conversation is more than appropriate. In fact, my Transit is an Overland AWD build. And I love the damn thing, even with all its annoyances. But for full time van life… or even weekend warrior camping, I’d take that ugly Promaster everyday, and twice on Sunday. Sorry ‘bout the long ramble. 🤘

[@JonniesJourney]

Thank you so much for your awesome input. Several points that are very important that I didn't even think of adding (drive shaft). That's so awesome that you have both the Transit and the Ram. I am definitely a fan of the fridge over the chest. It's just not worth the hassle of food hunting. Enjoy those vans and thanks again for taking the time to leave an educated, helpful response. 😊

[@NoteFromSELF]

Thanks for this. Very helpful for someone who is 6'1".

[@jasminamamacita6594]

Thank you so much for the Additional detailed comparison I truly was leaning towards the pro master as a 5 foot 5 tall, single solo, female on crutches, and Power scooter. It sounds like I may have to get the seats adjusted to lower them and have them swivel to assist with transitioning from the cab to the living area and to also allow my feet to touch the floor, right? I thought the all wheel drive was the best for not getting stuck in the sand, mud, snow, and that they all wheel drive is better for roof trains. I would love to have all of the extra bells and whistle’s, and I most definitely need to have the solar panels installed on top of the roof. I am literally praying to God for a helper, partner, friend, or kingdom spouse who Knows about how to convert a van into a daily living camper as I need to be on the move. It can be difficult When being when being a solo 58 years of age female, who’s healing from injuries with Some current/temporary mobility issues. Is it possible to have layers of sleeping space like a bunkbed with queen size on the bottom and top? For the grandkids. And no one ever mentions the shower and the toilet areas, or is it better to just do a makeshift/ portable toilet/Shower to illuminate plumbing for water disposal? Should I be concerned about a sink, and is it really necessary to have a refrigerator because I really don’t know if a cooler would suffice with being so small? ❤Thank you in advance for anyone who can advise me on this situations , God bless you!

[@lorimoore5589]

That was helpful!!

[@ThriftyAngela]

I love that you went over the differences between the two and also gave just a bit of your opinion. Very good things to know if you're trying to decide between the two. Thanks for sharing! 😊

[@JonniesJourney]

Thanks Angela, we talked about it for days before making the video. Hope it helps others.

[@debbielarabee4560]

This is exactly what I needed to learn as I’m currently in shopping mode and had no info regarding these differences! I think we need a TransMaster 😂

[@JonniesJourney]

That sounds like the perfect solution ❤️ it

[@bernadettepeterson8291]

Oh, wonderful memories. It was so much fun chatting with you 💕

[@JonniesJourney]

Yep fun times. 🙂

[@MaggieG70]

So informative! I’m a 6ft woman and I have been debating between the 2 vans. You bought out points I never even realized which make a huge difference! Thanks for putting Dawn up! I just found you through her post and I subscribed to you to after watching this video. Thanks😊

[@JonniesJourney]

Glad it was helpful Margie. Thanks for watching

[@Blakmagic88]

Hey Margie, did you decide on a van? I am also a 6ft woman and am leaning toward the ProMaster but the potential transmission issues are giving me pause.

[@ytJnC]

For the record we have a low roof Promaster on the 136” chassis. We bought a built out van during the start of covid, so we went with what was available and decided to go with one already built, as finding parts & labor at that time was challenging. Despite my reluctance of buying a RAM product, it has been better than I expected. We did have some electrical gremlins, but that was due to how the dealer failed to properly reattach the front ground cable during some suspension mods. That has been sorted out. I’m 5’8” and have to duck inside the low roof, but my significant other is fine. The ducking isn’t so bad as normally I’m moving from one seated position to other (seats to bed). The overall clearance height of the LR PM has been great. We have a tall rack with solar panels, and the van is still less than 9 ft. This means we can still go through drive thrus. The builders I’ve spoken with prefer working on the PM as the Transits wall has a bolster at the bottom that you have to build around. As mentioned earlier, the bedding is easier and wider on a PM. I think Ford does a better job with their rear doors in terms of stop points. Fuel economy is better on the Promasters, particularly with the new 9 speed transmission. We’ve been averaging about 18 mpg lifetime, but that includes running our Esbar gas heater during the winter. The Promaster has a built in tap to the gas tank that is accessible in the interior, and the tap will not use the last quarter of the tank (so that your heater doesn’t deplete all of your gas). I like running a petrol heater as there is no separate diesel or propane tank to fuss with. Driver position has more of a commercial feel than the Transit, which feels more like a Ford truck. Certainly less comfortable, but you are also nearly sitting atop the front wheels on the Promaster, which really help seeing during turns in tight situations. FWD reduces the load floor height as been mentioned, but since all of your built weight is at the rear, it can make driving uphill difficult on rough rutted terrain such as a steep washed out mountain road. Either product (RAM or Ford) has a huge dealer network, and critical parts (engines and transmissions) can be easily sourced from other family products. Anecdotally I’m hearing that the Mercedes dealer network is far more fussy, difficult to find locally and backed up work schedules, and restrict parts access to only their authorized MB service centers. YMMV, but I’m seeing brand new Sprinters get stranded due to lack of foresight and commitment in the MB service/supply chain, particularly for some very popular RV builders. And diesel costs / maintenance are negating any mpg advantage.

[@JonniesJourney]

very good point about the heavy backend going up hill in a FWD. I get right at 16mpg in my 3500 extended. Sometimes I'm happy I can't go through drivethroughs and sometimes i'm like "oh dang" 😂 We steered clear of the diesel for those exact reasons. thank you so much for your awesome comment and great points. safe travels.

[@RockyRocano]

I'm 6'1 and I am considering getting a Hightop Promaster. Hopefully I can stand up straight in there with shoes on after the conversion :) Fantastic video folks.. I just subscribed.

[@folkoftheforest]

Team Transit here but would love a video comparing the Sprinter as well. Great info as always!

[@JonniesJourney]

I would love to see an empty sprinter some day.

[@NoteFromSELF]

maintenance costs knocked the Sprinter off the list for me.

[@raywalsh8807]

Great info ladies. I love your “style” with the note paper notes. No music or production just facts and then your opinions. Loved it! You reminded of my two sisters. 🙏🏻

[@JonniesJourney]

Awe, thank you so much

[@morphergaming0531]

This is the comparison vid I've been searching for. Other vids come at it with business payload and safety features but no one else has covered the functionality of the cargo space. Great vid, thanks

[@JonniesJourney]

Awesome, I'm glad it helped. 😊

[@darcyks]

Great pro & con considerations for people ~ very helpful!

[@TOTALLYRELAXED]

Hi Jonnie! I don’t have the problem of my feet not touching the floor in my 1989 Dodge Xplorer 230 XLW, when my passenger seat is turned backwards, bc the floor’s level…’MY’ problem is getting INTO the van through the side door…left half is fake and doesn’t open, but, get this: it has hinges! WTH?! FYI, for the windows in the Promaster not rolling all the way down one can go to most truck stops and buy an arm rest [pretty cheap] that’ll slide down into the window crack…used one for years in my big trucks for 38 years OTR. I have no problem standing up in my van but then again I’m only 5’9” and not that tall…but, I better duck getting into the driver’s seat bc if I don’t I’ll smack my head on the overhead storage area…which I’ve already done several times! Great video as always! Stay safe! ~Jim~

[@JonniesJourney]

oh wow I did't know about the arm rest, good idea. that's crazy about the fake door SMH

[@TOTALLYRELAXED]

@@JonniesJourney I just don’t understand why a company would do that to a van that NEEDED two side doors to open. Thank goodness I can at least grab hold of the seatbelt at roof level to pull myself up into the one door! Have a blessed day!

[@junglehomes6525]

I considered the Promaster, the Transit and the Sprinter for my Travel van build. I selected the Transit 350 with all wheel drive and the eco boost engine platform. Performs very well on high speed highways and climbs mountains with ease. Very powerful van for travel.

[@JonniesJourney]

That's awesome. Safe travels

[@HoneyandMe]

Really great information! And funny, because I had just watched another comparison video that was older. Transit was the pick there too. I always figured I'd go with the Dodge, as our pick up is a Dodge and we love it. But, the Transit sounds like the better base for a camper van.

[@JonniesJourney]

I like my RAM just a few things I wish I had including AWD and the darn step gone.

[@Vanderella]

Love this video and you two! Great information and comparsion!!

[@JonniesJourney]

Thanks Kelly

[@deborah4579]

Good thoughts. Thanks for bringing this to everyone’s attention Jonnie. No doubt that Les certainly will move around easier in a Transit. I think people should try to get inside each van platform if they can to get a sense of what they are like before buying. I had the chance recently to look at a number of RV on the three chassis’s. It was definitely beneficial. If the Promaster were AWD it would be near perfect for me but then the Transits gas mileage is worse so it’s a trade off. I’m not tall and the slightly greater width of this chassis makes a difference for me. Friends that have the new 2023 9 speed engine with the bells and whistles love theirs.

[@JonniesJourney]

I like my Ram too, I 100% agree that people should get in them before they buy, that is if they can find dealers that have them. LOL

[@lucboisseau5586]

In the process of converting a Transit AWD. Just to say that I don't have any regrets at all. The benefit of AWD, as you pointed out, was a huge factor for me. Living in Quebec Canada, the winter driving is challenging. As I build, the lack of room underneath is obvious compare to the Promaster. So if your plan is to use it predominatly in campgrounds in summer condition then the Promaster would be an easier buit for sure. A last point, if you plan a large electrical configuration, well then the Transit has no rival, not even the Sprinter. They have a twin 250A alternator option, dual 12v batteries (not to be used as house batteries though) and multiple user connections points for power from the alternators, ignition sensing etc.

[@JonniesJourney]

Wow, I didn't know that. You got the Trail?

[@GreatGrannyFreeBird]

This was a very nice video. I love hearing the pros and cons since we are considering the transit all wheel drive.

[@JonniesJourney]

sweet, you buying another van?

[@GreatGrannyFreeBird]

@@JonniesJourney its possible. 😉🥰

[@klrrafman]

Promaster doesn't have the drive shaft so you can put water tank, waste tank and propane more easily under the floor. This is why it is so popular with the builders.

[@JonniesJourney]

Great point. The Transit is so tight under neath 🙂

[@LadyBugout]

That is so helpful. Thanks for the comparison🤗

[@JonniesJourney]

Thanks Dee

[@aseretaretrom4807]

Thanks to Cindy and Jonnie for sharing / teresa miami florida … this kept me be more brave to start my build

[@JonniesJourney]

Good luck Teresa

[@pattycarretta9932]

Great job comparing the two vehicles. Overall I’m happy with the Promaster and being 5”1” tall… height isn’t an issue for me. 😊 I will say I like the quality of the Ford brand though. I’ve seen many videos with mechanical issues on the RAM. Fingers crossed… Bea (The beach house) does well mechanically in the future. I’ll be sure to keep up with oil changes and maintenance, etc.

[@JonniesJourney]

agree, fingers crossed I have had no issues yet. 🙏

[@emartin851]

I agree, I'll never own another dodge product, but our Ford trucks have been super reliable!

[@chugelen]

i am struggling to with the same issues. The promaster is all I want measurements wise..but that ford dependability is hard to beat.

[@emartin851]

@@chugelen Dependability rules over measurements every time for me, vehicles are too expensive to repair to think the opposite.

[@MR.TOYBOX]

Ford quality is horrible . Ram all day .

[@RockerRoxy]

Awesome review, definitely very helpful to those who are in doubt 👍👍👍👍👍 great job both of you ❤❤❤❤❤

[@JonniesJourney]

Thank you Adele, hopefully it dies help others. It's a hard decision for some. ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️

[@polgara28]

I just saw a guy in a FB group talking about how bad the Promaster's cup holder was. He said it was just awful. He didn't specify why it was bad, can someone explain? Great points and very helpful! Thanks for posting.

[@bernadettepeterson8291]

I'm not sure why they could be so awful, maybe for cups with handles?

[@srameypr]

See, this could be a real irritation, like the driver's window not rolling all the way down. I'd like to know about the cupholder, too. I'm not sure I want to spend hours driving something with too many little irritants, LOL.

[@ytJnC]

The Promaster has three primary cup holders at the bottom of the center console, but it sits a little low. There are two built into the doors, but they don’t have much retention. I like the way the cup holders are placed on the Transit dash better, as they have easier access just to the side of the instrument cluster.

[@JonniesJourney]

probable because the one in the Transit is nicer. The transit has on over by the window which is nice. The Promaster has a small one that seems more for the passenger and it is very shallow. but.... it has two down low whick is what most people use. thanks for watching Christie

[@sarahcobb4166]

Yes, it is because the Promster's cup holders are practically on the floor, so you have to bend way down to reach them, but they do hold cups snugly. And yes, I agree the one in the door is practically useless.

[@BoxVanDee]

Great info, a lot of things to consider if you are deciding to buy one.

[@JonniesJourney]

Thanks Dee, there sure are.

[@youngblood2]

I have driven 100s of thousands of miles in both, and I will always pick the Transit, because it drives so much better!

[@JonniesJourney]

The seats are more comfortable, too. 👍

[@emrysnewbert8691]

Thank you guys so much, you brought up so many things I didn’t even think about, and I’ve been planning a conversation for years!

[@JonniesJourney]

That's why we wanted to record this. Maybe a thing or two people don't think about. 🙂

[@mytrueserenity5666]

Excellent points! This was SO helpful. :-)

[@JonniesJourney]

Thank You

[@bettyolis6228]

Interesting facts! Thanks Jonnie and friend.

[@JonniesJourney]

Thank you Betty

[@katherinefein3261]

Thank you so very much - clear comparison - you helped a lot!!!

[@JonniesJourney]

Thank you so much, check out my updated video comparison

[@CDubsJourney]

Nice comparison thanks! ✌️💛🌞

[@JonniesJourney]

Thanks C-dub

[@craftytraveler9238]

Thanks for the video. Good comparison.

[@JonniesJourney]

Thanks Lani 🙂

[@kele1264]

Love the comparisons! Questions: the 4" of Transit floor height. Why is it there? Does it equate to 4 extra inches of ground clearance? I was just looking at the Promaster website. Looks like the 2023 might have straight walls now. And they offer "high" and "super high" tops. Sounding like the ProMaster for me. I love AWD, but ProMaster isn't there yet. Better FWD than RWD. Better wider than taller (I'm short). You know I had to play with the Build It feature. $65,000 and I didn't click everything I might want. Highway robbery, I say. Gouging, I say.

[@bernadettepeterson8291]

Good question on the 4-inch floor. 🤔 I think the ground clearance is the same.

[@kele1264]

@@bernadettepeterson8291 Thank you Bernadette!

[@deborah4579]

Hi Ke le, The Ford AWD transit clearance isn’t nearly as good as one might think. That extra width in the promaster is nice. The line of sight front to back is nice too.

[@kele1264]

@@deborah4579 Thanks Deborah! I suppose that does make sense with the AWD equipment underneath. And I agree, wide is good.

[@JonniesJourney]

yeah.... not near the room underneath as one would think. It's tight on both vans. Agree, I would love AWD but happy with my FWD. Since Kelly and I are not tall we definitely like the wider van. We are happy with our promaster. Yep 65,000.... it's crazy times.

[@eugenesaint1231]

Thanks for the video, Jonnie. I doubt I'll ever own either of these vehicles but you pointed out stuff that's important to consider in any rig. I was a Ford guy (my built-out '63 Econoline was extra tits) then I became a Chevy guy -- until their engineering went to crap. Now I'm a Dodge guy. Dodges have been the most reliable for me. Just sane... :^) Saint

[@JonniesJourney]

I like my Ram for sure. Wish I didn't have that step up to cab is all. 🙂

[@freedomdove]

Great comparison video, ladies. 👍

[@JonniesJourney]

Thanks Dove

[@jasonnicks819]

I am looking to buy a transit or pro master. This video was full of great information! Thanks

[@JonniesJourney]

Awesome happy to help. I also have an updated one I just released this month

[@talebit]

Great list and some major things to consider. It really helped me, thank you!!

[@JonniesJourney]

Happy to help.

[@HappyPlaceCamping]

Interesting pros and cons list. Nice subject matter. I can't get over the fact that the front windows don't roll all the way down. That's kind of odd. Wonder why they would have designed them that way. I, personally, like the style of the Ford better. Never been much of a dodge fan. But that's really just personal taste. I know just as many people who are the opposite. Thanks for sharing some of the differences in these two vans.

[@deborah4579]

I’ve come to love my promaster.

[@JonniesJourney]

Thanks Felix. I love my Ram. It helps we are not tall. The step to the cab is the only think I wish was I had different.

[@MaggieG70]

I know right. I love having my elbow hang out of the window.😂

[@lespeterson6039]

Nice comparison 👍

[@JonniesJourney]

Thanks Les

[@DaphnetheBlindDog]

That is great information to share. Good job. 👍🏻

[@JonniesJourney]

Thanks Dawn

[@Sheatakimushroom]

Great video guys I appreciate the info!

[@JonniesJourney]

Thanks for watching!

[@bobbie3082]

Great video and comparison!!

[@JonniesJourney]

Thanks Bobbie

[@Teresa.McDermott]

Thank you! Great info! I would love to know the inside dimensions as well.

[@JonniesJourney]

The Transit 148 is 68x128 and the Promaster 2500 is 74x130.5 If you are wanting something else let me know, I may have the answer or can get it.

[@Teresa.McDermott]

@@JonniesJourney I heard you guys say that the promaster walls bow out in the center. I'm guessing the 74 is the widest part? How wide is it at the ceiling and floor? Thanks so much for doing this!!

[@djpcbaby]

VERY informative! Thank you ladies for making this video! I'm deciding between these 2 vehicles for my DJ business. I've only driven a transit so far but I think I'm sold on the AWD!

[@JonniesJourney]

Wish they weren't so hard to get. Thanks for watching

[@djpcbaby]

@@JonniesJourney oh my! That’s a bummer!

[@mariel.garcia]

One of the most helpful videos ever! Thank you.

[@JonniesJourney]

Thank you so much, glad it was helpful 😊

[@kadiyeshire9478]

Thank you so much ❤️❤️❤️❤️ that's good info 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍

[@JonniesJourney]

Thanks Kadiye

[@AnnieGill7]

Good stuff ladies!!

[@JonniesJourney]

Thank you Annie

[@t.a.bernhardt7285]

This was so helpful and I appreciated it so much! I decided to buy a Promaster already but hadn't considered some of this and it was good to have my choice validated with your input. Feel much more confident about my selection now. Luckily I'm 5' tall and don't want swivel seats hahahaha!

[@JonniesJourney]

That's awesome, congratulations. 😀

[@artisticagi]

Thank you ladies for doing this review! This is so thorough!! 😊

[@artisticagi]

6:00 leaks from ford transit roof connectors

[@JonniesJourney]

Glad it was some help

[@le_th_]

I drove a 2021 Transit high top 6 thousand miles from SF, CA to KS roundtrip twice...by way of the I-80 once and the I-10 once. I very much enjoyed driving and sleeping in the transit, and the views out of the front are just amazing. It reminds me of sitting in the cockpit of a Boeing jet because the view is so expansive. Very, very easy to drive, to connect your phone to the vehicle, to park, etc. It requires VIGILANCE driving in crosswinds, and it feels like it's going to tip over on mountain roads if you drive the speed limit. The good news, it has an indicator to tell you when/if you're running the risk of tipping. If you do a lot of mountain driving, like through the Sierra Nevadas driving from San Francisco to Reno, or through the Rock Mountains of San Juan range of Colorado, you need to SLOW DOWN to a few mph BELOW the posted speed limit or run the risk of tipping over. Honestly, I don't think living in a van full-time is really practical, and I've lived full-time in a 7.5" x 13" space for much of the last 8 years. Too much can go wrong. If one person's carelessness or panic causes them to crash into you, your ENTIRE HOME must go in the shop. You really need a home base somewhere. I mean, sure you can shower at the gym...until there is a pandemic that requires lockdown or facilities to remain closed to the public for safety reasons. People think living in a van is "cheaper"...but there are places in the US where you can rent a tiny studio apartment for $500/month, utilities included, and in a reasonably safe neighborhood. In the central US, that even includes parking. Now, you can't do that in most places in California (my state), except maybe Clearlake, but you can do it in many, many states. If you're going to live full-time in a van, you better have a VERY SOLID AND TRUSTWORTHY SOCIAL SAFETY NET because if the you-know-what hits the fan, you need a place you can go immediately, qhwew you can store your personal belongings indefinitely, and stay there for as long as it takes to get your van back in working order....and that is IF your greed-driven insurance company doesn't decide to TOTAL your vehicle simply because it's cheaper for them to do that rather than repairing and restoring it. It is *very challenging* to find an insurer who will *adequately* insure a vehicle you've sunk that much money into. It's all well and good UNTIL someone WITHOUT INSURANCE causes an accident, or steals it when you're off doing something for several hours. You have to truly consider the FULL REALM OF POSSIBLITIES and have a plan for what you're going to do in each one of them. The more hours you spend on the road driving, the more RISK you have of someone else crashing into your home on wheels...or road debris getting hit by another vehicle and flying up and hitting YOUR vehicle. I very much LOVE the freedom of hopping in a vehicle and just taking off for a road trip somewhere beautiful...but full-time living? It's definitely more for the young who have parents to fall back on. The more and more you watch van lifers, the more of them you see get rid of their vans and start building homes...for just these reasons. Sometimes a van lifer will get lucky, and their vehicle will catch fire or get destroyed just after they've purchased a dwelling, and they have somewhere to live. What is truly awful, is when you see one destroyed, with all the person's worldly belongings in it, and they have to start over. Again, it's lovely as a weekend, seasonal, or vacation adventure, or for college kids who have a parent's stable, safe home where they can keep things you should NOT take on the road with you, like birth certificates, and other identity documents, mementos from school, etc.

[@JonniesJourney]

Thank you so much for the very thought out response. I like it that you are actually giving an experienced opinion. "Been there done that and trust me I know" opinion. Definitely the smartest plan is the one that includes a backup plan. Good to know on the tipover, I plan to be in thw PNW next year. Thanks again.

[@clarekelsey2774]

TTHX SO MUCH FOR BRINGING ALL THIS UP. IT'S LIKE THE POSSIBILITY OF MAJOR "TUSNAMU'/INSTANT HOMELESSNESS AND DESTRUCTION OF ALL WORLDLY GOODS IS FAR MORE POSSIBLE IN AN AMERICAN VAN LIFE WORLD THAN IN COUNTRIES WHERE MAJOR EARTHQUAKE, TSUNAMI, VOLCANO RISKS ARE COMMON. BE PREPARED - A REAL PLAN B AND THE $ TO CARRY IT OUT AND THE EMOTIONAL FORTITUDE TO LIVE WITH THAT LEVEL OF RISK. THX!

[@cindychurch925]

Great distinctions of the two. Certainly important things to consider

[@JonniesJourney]

Thanks Cindy. 🙂

[@emartin851]

Thanks for this comparison, although I'll never buy another dodge product, I enjoyed hearing these details since we are thinking of buying a transit.

[@JonniesJourney]

Thanks for watching

[@marvellstarks2434]

Thank you ladies. I'm starting a handyman business. And i need trucks for my employees. This was valuable

[@JonniesJourney]

Awesome. Good luck with the business

[@3Angels1.777]

Great video! I think you helped me decide! Looking at Promaster, Mercedes and Transit..... Pro's/con's but I decided Transit would be best for conversion build after listening. Great video! Thanks so much!

[@JonniesJourney]

awesome, glad to be of help. safe travels.

[@kdhartman44]

In the market for van so this info is huge!! TY!! Glad I found you all. When I take the plunge I might come pay you a visit, and maybe give you some business. I’m just across the state in Sedalia.😉

[@JonniesJourney]

That's awesome, good luck on the van hunt. You are only about 4hrs from my shop. 👍

[@rainsofhealing]

Thanks for sharing this with us!

[@neenee_marie77]

This was helpful! Thank you ladies!

[@JonniesJourney]

Awesome. Happy to help

[@phthisics]

In my experience the vehicles are different enough so that when you know just what factors are essential for you the decision makes itself. So if you must have 4WD/AWD a Promaster is out. If you must have an 18 ft. high roof van the Transit is out (and the Sprinter as well). Interior height varies across all vans--even their high roof versions differ. I'm 6'1" and can stand up in a Promaster high roof--just. These are just some of the factors. For example, in our case we live in a condo complex and can't easily part anything longer than 18 ft. near our unit, and we do a lot of driving--and parking--in town and in public campgrounds with tight access to parking pads at campsites. And as I said I'm 6'1" and need to be able to stand inside the van. That mandated a Promaster. The Transit's great features in some other areas were irrelevant because Ford doesn't make an 18 ft. high roof model. Your needs are probably a different priority stack. My point is that for most people the notion that you actually have a choice between the 4 modern vans currently sold in America is an illusion.

[@lakelivingb8409]

So if the width is bigger, on the van.... does that mean a wider wheel base and safer in wind conditions for swaying? Great info guys!!!!!! Alabama Fishin Lady B

[@JonniesJourney]

I totally think so. thanks B

[@Twizzted]

Very informative and helpful. Thank you!

[@JonniesJourney]

👍 awesome

[@lorraineanderson149]

I love my Ram. I always looking for new ideas to help me organize. Right now I have the bare minimum because I travel a lot. Maintenance is easy and I love the front wheel drive and I feel it is better driving in bad weather.

[@monicamassie1]

Hi Johnnie and Bernadette!!!!!!!

[@JonniesJourney]

Hey Monica. Good to see you

[@onlinePR4agents]

These points really have me thinking now! Also, do you know if anyone has done a comparison on more major mechanical and/or recall type items between Transit and Promaster?

[@JonniesJourney]

Good idea for a video. Thanks. Glad it helped.

[@JipseeGirl]

@@JonniesJourney I would like to see this also since my mechanic is steering me toward the Ford. I am looking at used ones

[@lindabarker7142]

If I ever buy a Transit, I'd buy the mid height version. Offers 6 feet pre floor and ceiling, enough for me and not too high overall outside height. I think the Ram is awkward climbing in and out the front seats. Maybe it's still that cab forward thing. I prefer front wheel drive. The number 1 reason to buy the Transit? Not a Dodge. I've driven Fords all my life. I get my brother's employee discount.

[@JonniesJourney]

Good points and yiu can never go wrong with a family discount. Is your connect FWD? Most are rear wheel drive or AWD. The RAM in FWD 👍

[@lindabarker7142]

@@JonniesJourney Connects are front wheel drive. Transits started all wheel drive in 2020, as an option.

[@JonniesJourney]

@@lindabarker7142 nice, I didn't a bunch of research last night on Transit and Ram. So much to know and learn.

[@lindabarker7142]

@@JonniesJourney Well, I need to stick to the Connect. Paid for is best. I was wondering , having the higher floor, if Transits are better for installing gray water tanks underneath.

[@JonniesJourney]

Yep more clearance

[@michaelrowan7205]

So I want to thank you for the video. I would like to know if you enjoy the front wheel drive part of the Promaster and with the option to buy the extra high version what do you think is better about the Transit? As you must believe it is better because that is what you bought?

[@JonniesJourney]

They actually cancelled the Transit order when Ram came out with the super high. The tour of their amazing build is on my channel. We love the front wheel drive. I would never do wheel rear again.

[@elsuperpollo2273]

I'm looking to get a cargo van with a high roof, pass through from cab to cargo, add shelves, a spot for a composting toilet and a place to wash hands, extra lights, and right hand drive conversion to deliver mail and packages as a postal rural carrier.

[@JonniesJourney]

Sounds awesome

[@elsuperpollo2273]

It will it's just finding a used cargo van or small box truck that's reasonably priced lol. Not looking for brand new

[@JipseeGirl]

What about the difference of available space underneath for tanks. I have heard it varies alot and can determine your floor plan do's and don'ts

[@JonniesJourney]

Definitely the Promaster for exterior space.

[@GracieandJacqsAdventures]

Rewatched again today 🎉

[@JonniesJourney]

😁 thank you

[@lyndathomson2586]

I will choose a Ram Promaster every time. It has it all. We changed a few things like raising the bed for storage purchased a bumper extended storage swing out.

[@josephjuno9555]

I Love my Promaster! The Only reason I wud get a Transit is to get All wheel drive. We call the PM Attic our "Pizza Oven!" That 4" Floor difference is Huge! I'm over 6' and w floor built up I can stand w lots of headroom.

[@JonniesJourney]

Love my PM. Agree AWD would be nice though. The 4in is huge for so many. 🙂 thanks for watching

[@GracieandJacqsAdventures]

Good to know ladies!!!!

[@JonniesJourney]

Thanks Gracie

[@prophetseven728]

I wonder if you can make the window in the Promaster go all the way down. AfterMarket style.

[@JonniesJourney]

I have never seen it done. Would be nice.

[@dianac7002]

After owning 2 different Dodge/Chrysler products in the past, I vowed to never buy that brand again. If you want long-term worry-free ownership, don't buy a Ram Promaster. Personally, I wish the Toyota Hiace van was sold in the U.S. I would buy that in a heartbeat. Thanks for sharing this information!

[@JonniesJourney]

thanks for watching. I have been so blessed with my Ram and feel blessed every time I can say this because I do know at some point all vehicles have issues.

[@sophieboisvert]

Ewww not Toyota they are over Rated and uncomfortable Had an accident in a Toyota and no protection I have serious brain injuries and the German Tiguan that hit me didn’t have scratches or injuries.

[@laurelkennedy6252]

Sincerely-well done!

[@JonniesJourney]

Thank you so much 😊

[@277kne]

I'm watching in October 2023. Can you review the 2023 Promaster extra high roof?

[@JonniesJourney]

We have one on order, will do asap once it arrives 👍

[@JosephCarpenter700]

I like your comments. If you're going to do cutaway shots to show what you're talking about. It would be nice if you left them on there longer. Maybe let them bleed over your audio a little bit more so we can see what you're talking about better instead of just flashing them on for a few seconds and popping them away.

[@JonniesJourney]

good tip, thank you

[@JipseeGirl]

I've been looking for a good used high top van for a few months now. My mechanic told me to stick with the Transit because the Promaster is plagued with transmission and electrical issues. He says the Ford motor is superior to the Ram. Any thoughts on this?

[@JonniesJourney]

I know what you are saying about the promaster transmission issues. I honestly know of anyone that has actually had an issue, though. I have also not heard of eletrical problems. I will have to research that. In my opinion, I would choose the van based on the build you are wanting and make sure you have a used van looked at by a mechanic first.

[@yorotirb3941]

Ive heard that the pro master doesnt have as much traction as rear wheel due to so much weight in camper vans. Have you noticed anything like that?

[@JonniesJourney]

No I haven't, and I have had no problems and I'm at 8600 pounds. I had one lady talk about her front wheel spinning when she takes off but not sure of all the conditions.

[@sarahcobb4166]

I'm curious, does anyone else have the problem of the front wheels spinning a bit when you start up at a stop sign? I try to go extra easy on the gas pedal, but if the tires hit the paint, or I'm turning, they tend to spin a tiny bit... And very uneven tread wear? As in the front tires wearing much quicker than the rear? I bought my 2019, 1500, 136 low roof used with 10,000 miles on it. The front tires were worn quite a bit more than the rear. I only have 32,000 on it now and almost need to replace the front tires. I have rotated them, but then read that the better treads should be in the rear, even on front wheel drive vehicles.. I don't have a LOT of weight in my build, (no solar, no electrical, or plumbing) but I'm actually considering adding some weight to the front, somehow...

[@JonniesJourney]

Mine doesn't spin but the front definitely wore faster. On the front wheel drive the left is the one that spins, try easing up on the gas when taking off. 🤷‍♀️

[@CihaPet]

Butyl tape for the leaking issue (# 4)?

[@JonniesJourney]

That might work. Maybe cut back some of the rubber gasket and replace with Butyl. 👍

[@mvemerson]

Excellent. Thanks a bunch.

[@JonniesJourney]

Glad it was helpful!

[@Jlux823]

What about Ford vs promaster ease of getting maintenance and engine repairs? Is it complicated to get appointments which is better in quality

[@JonniesJourney]

Honestly I think you will hear arguments for both. Sprinter is bt far the hardest because of deisel motor. Some complain about the Promaster transmission, I personally know of more than a dozen on the road that have had zero problems wirh anything at all. There is always that one though 🤷‍♀️. I know right now it's a forever wait for a Transit so I have to wonder about servicing as well. IMO

[@roaminb3488]

I will soon be looking to buy a van so this has been very helpful for me. Glad I found your channel. Thank you.

[@JonniesJourney]

Yay you found me. The best of luck on your build. If you have any questions, reach out and we have a great livestream Tuesday at 9pm est. 🙂 welcome

[@Matthew-zw9su]

Just say no to silicone! Lots of better products. Thanks for your review!

[@JonniesJourney]

Appreciate that. I will do some research. Thank you

[@johnmerkel756]

Regarding the catalytic converter - the Promaster has them located in a way the actually prevents theft, I’m sure about the Ford Transit.

[@JonniesJourney]

Oh sweet, didn't know that. 🙂

[@Chicago_GTA]

Which one has the better motor and transmission. Seems you guys option on if you want to camp in these . Not being ride looking for real info about the vans

[@JonniesJourney]

I just hit 50,000 zero problems. Just replaced the original battery last week. All vans can have issues but I know of none that have a common engine problem. The Ram did have issues with transmission but I haven't heard of recent issues.

[@brentzobel1907]

The promaster comes with a super high roof now. You have to get the 3500. I'm tall and wanted to sleep sideways too.

[@JonniesJourney]

They actually ordered that one. Just waiting on the VIN# 👍 thanks for watching

[@phila3884]

Still confused- the Transit floor is higher, makes getting in and out more difficult for your 6'4" husband? Why are you getting the Transit? Even with the higher floor, the interior height is still more than Promaster?

[@JonniesJourney]

Since Promaster now has the super high, they have ordered it.

[@srdamman]

How about driving position for the tall husband Les? What does he have to say between the two models?

[@JonniesJourney]

If you check out my Sunday video, you can see the new Ram Promaster super high. They just moved in

[@AnnettesVanTease]

Jonnie you sold me in the ProMaster just over a year ago.

[@JonniesJourney]

Woohoo. Still love mine.

[@corygarcia2866]

Thank you

[@JonniesJourney]

Happy to help

[@clarasmith1873]

Any pros or cons to the battery placement of each van?

[@bernadettepeterson8291]

Good question 🤔 the promaster has battery in the floor in front of the driver's seat. Which I don't like because we have carpet in the front, and it all has to get pulled to get to it. Versus the transit, I think it's behind the driver's seat.

[@srameypr]

@@bernadettepeterson8291 Oh, no - I don't like either location. What if you have to jump your battery? Sounds like a PIA.

[@clarasmith1873]

We are looking at 2019 to 2021 Transits. The batteries have been under the hood. I like the extra head room in the Dodge and square walls. Tough choices.

[@agilityig]

The battery (or batteries - some units have two batteries) for the Transit are under the driver’s seat. To jump the Transit, there are connections under the hood.

[@JonniesJourney]

There are jump posts under the hood for both Promaster and the Transit

[@ginawhite3728]

I seriously have watched probably a 100 videos on the differences between the 3 main cargo vans and which one is best and what year they were best and on and on and on and I'm more confused today than I've ever been, because it all sounds to me like this is a c*** shoot that it all depends on whether or not you get a good van, that they all have problems, and they all have good points

[@JonniesJourney]

🙄it's the truth. It is a very tough decision, everything else will seem easy once you pick the van.

[@LCLand]

I finally settled on a transit after years of wanting travato. I don’t want to deal with the issues. My Nissan pathfinder overheated yesterday and as I was chatting with the tow truck driver I asked him what he picks up the most. He said ram pro master a lot. Second is sprinter. He said rarely the transit. Mostly teslas these days, off topic but he brought it up. Yikes.

[@MamaBaer54]

I need to put a swivel seat in my Transit. Can I come visit your shop and pay you to install it for me?

[@JonniesJourney]

On the Transit, I only like doing the passenger because of the complexity of the parking brake on the drivers seat. So if it is the passenger side then yes 🙂

[@ginawhite3728]

Also if these companies are hearing what people are saying these are minor changes that a company can make to these vans to accommodate the needs of people

[@JonniesJourney]

absolutely agree

[@splitshifts5269]

You giys are awesome!

[@JonniesJourney]

Awe, thank you

[@cynthiacampbell2257]

Thank you!

[@JonniesJourney]

Happy to help 😊

[@JimmyG1776]

Another thing is the transit has a paper thin roof compared to the Pro master when your on the roof.

[@JonniesJourney]

100% agree. honestly didn't even think of that when we made the video. wishing I had, that's a great point.

[@hatchgrafix]

Happy to see women excited about 4”

[@JonniesJourney]

🤣🤣🤣

[@arieswar4770]

REALLY!! feet dangle is the on the list WOW!!!

[@JonniesJourney]

Absolutely, everyone with a promaster will agree. It's high