Forensic Files - Season 7, Episode 12 - Scout's Honor - Full Episode

In Pennsylvania 1984, a passer-by finds the torso of a woman in a cardboard box. Investigators rely on insect activity analysis by a forensic entomologist to determine when the murder victim was killed.
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[@bita8998]

This is the first episode where the victim didn’t “light up the room with their smile”

[@mikotoh]

or wouldnt 'give someone the shirt off their back'

[@jessylei]

@@mikotohshe couldn’t give the shirt off her back cuz she always had it off 🤷🏼‍♀️ but I felt bad for Randy having to grow up in that environment I hope he doing well today ❤

[@8luvbug]

​@@jessylei oh, come on. This is such a shitty thing to say

[@christiancayo1457]

You must have missed the OHair,s épisodes 😂

[@ronque23]

Actually I do believe she would give up the shirt off her back, her bra and panties to a man in need.

[@rickyrico80]

Dude with maggot plates is dedicated af 🤣

[@saydeesaydee2847]

Noooo lol

[@idaornstein1305]

The entomologist’s car vanity plate reads: “maggot!” Hilarious!

[@thegodofpez]

Bless this channel for being ad free. 👏

[@arnulfob3454]

Shhhhhhh ! Dont bring attention to it .

[@albertomartinez3863]

no lie i just got a ad smh

[@cynthia9235]

Really short ads

[@iamnina832]

It USED to be as free. but that was wonderful

[@thegodofpez]

@@iamnina832 Awww I didn’t realize it changed. ):

[@idil90622]

The way these investigators talked about her, you would think she was the killer and not the victim!

[@alexyoungberg5232]

Ruby's conviction was overturned and that makes them look bad so they probably don't like Edna.

[@yesiamthatgradeAcunt_]

I swear 😒

[@Kbrown2018]

I mean did y’all want them to lie about who she was ? She met men at bars , had 3 different sperm samples inside of her, disappeared for months and left her child with a child molester and all of this could’ve played a part in her death ! I don’t really see how it could’ve been left out.

[@bita8998]

My thoughts exactly!!!!

[@Halcyon1861]

She killed herself. What does 1 Corinthians 6 9-10 mean to you? You are only looking at this life. We know where she is now. Gods perfect justice.

[@AS-qg1xu]

The guy who narrated this tv series was so good. Perfect voice and delivery for crime show.

[@adambump5297]

Peter Thomas was his name.

[@AS-qg1xu]

@@adambump5297 Thank you!

[@kanay_norie]

This is the most unsatisfying episode ever! Who killed her?!! 😳

[@kidnplay3978]

Ruby killed her. He was wrongfully acquitted.

[@jessylei]

Ruby might been a creep but I don’t think he killed her (he probably had reasons) it probably one of the 3 men who she last had sex with probably killed her but I don’t think they working on this case anymore

[@EpicFableBean]

@@kidnplay3978 uhhh they literally proved how it could not be

[@user-gw2ew3rm3t]

Unsatisfied case so who killed her😮

[@apointtomake1517]

This episode was not about finding the killer, it was about using FS to get an innocent person out of prison.

[@melliesmelly1337]

The son speaks on this topic on Reddit. He feels like it was Ruby. States many reasons why . So sad.

[@Ledognatripus]

Well Donald Ruby was still sexually inappropriate/abusive to her son and he should be in prison for that

[@nathalie_desrosiers]

He spent 6 years in jail, which is (unfortunately) more than what most rapist get.

[@nicklion6585]

TICK FEAR

[@louiswilson3653]

Yes!!! The jury may have found him not guilty of Edna's murder but he certainly is a pedophile. Disgusting!!! 🤮

[@1978garfield]

Odd he was never charged with being a pedo and they never said where the allegations came from.

[@evosthunder]

Always bothered me how they just gave up after Ruby got acquitted.

[@Klabarge92]

They probably think Ruby did it, and he got wrongfully acquitted. It could have been the case?

[@ML-xh6rd]

I bet if they used genetic genealogy on the three semen samples today they could figure out the men she was with and likely with other investigation determine who killed her. But they don't want to do that because of how she lived. They wanted to railroad a man with a parenting style they didn't agree with and after he fought his way to a new trial and was exonerated, they had no interest in actually finding her killer. Ruby made them look bad and they can't handle it. To find the real killer would mean they were wrong all along.

[@Ze_Moose]

Not victim shaming but did I hear she had sperm from 3 different men?! 😮 The possibilities are endless!

[@EpicFableBean]

They never said they gave up finding the murder. The case regarding Rudy killing her if he did was solved. He didn't. Thats what the episode is about too. People lets use our brains

[@DiddlyD-xx2ih]

​@@ML-xh6rdhe wasn't exonerated. He was found not guilty. Big difference.

[@janicep1508]

This was a very poor investigation compared to many others on the show. Why didn't anyone investigate people who may have seen Edna on Saturday. No luminal test in Rudy's house, garage or car? Tire tracks or footprints at the corpse scene? I've seen some LEOs go to extraordinary means, tracing all kinds of minuscule fibers, tracing items (the box) to a store or factory, canvassing towns to find witnesses of a possible passing car, any and all evidence to find a killer. The big evidence here was a cardboard box with a hole in it that could have come from millions of cars, a bug expert that was way off on the time and an autopsy that was off on the living sperm timeframes. Everything else was very circumstantial. A thump in the night? I certainly couldn't convict on that. And was the boy evaluated to see if he was being abused and wanted to be homed with another family.

[@danp1471]

For real. That was some extremely sloppy work when it came to this case. I'm surprised they even picked this one to highlight although it's certainly important to learn from people's mistakes. And because of the sloppy work they apparently had to close the case despite not knowing who was responsible. It certainly makes you appreciate the detectives that do go the extra mile that much more.

[@jessiedoggie1]

Great comment.

[@Hamad-Almass]

Totally agree with you

[@muffs55mercury61]

I agree 100% but remember this was in 1984 and the original investigators likely botched it. DNA was in it's infancy and only a few had access to it. As time went on this should have been turned over to a cold case unit which by then was in the time of advanced DNA.

[@nemesisxrox6773]

@@muffs55mercury61 ... agree thou they may have done so by now - research would possibly find an answer which would take some time.

[@alannahyoung7310]

I'm not one to generally comment on videos but gosh I feel so sorry for Edna. No one had not one nice thing to say about her and words they used to describe her were just horrible. She was a victim. She didn't deserve to be murdered just because she lived an unstable lifestyle. You never know what someone has been though/what mental illnesses they're battling. I hope she is at peace and that one day her murder gets solved one day.

[@rageius]

My thoughts exactly, it's weird because I've seen similar episodes where girls like this get killed and there is never any judgement.

[@landiepage3809]

I was saying exact same thing. Like they were saying horrible things about her! Like she deserved to be murdered!!!! Some men are just disgusting

[@cikosphysicaltherapist6017]

I've seen every episode of FF, and your right they did Edna dirty. Even prostitutes, addicts got more respect.

[@patriciajohnson8453]

This is a perfect example of double standards. If a man was moving from one relationship to another, living with MULTIPLE women, having sex with MULTIPLE women at the same time and leaving his child with total strangers, disappearing for MONTHS without telling anyone where he was, drinking heavily and hanging out at bars all time of the day and night, I guarantee you, you wouldn't be so sympathetic, you would be calling him every name in the book.

[@heatheryoung9254]

@@patriciajohnson8453 jeeeeeeze lady. You know this for a fact about a bunch of strangers on KZbin? I think you’ll find Facebook a much better platform for your “theories.”

[@clumsytriangle2436]

They should do a DNA test again now to find out the truth

[@Dallas_AWG]

So they didn’t reopen the case? That’s the real crime here.

[@jonglewongle3438]

Yeah. They've since got 3 sets of DNA there. What's the go with closing the case ?

[@natsarimthings3147]

I am just as confused! You would think they'd investigate further if the 1st suspect was proven not guilty. 🙄

[@bartholomewesperanza3442]

This is just my opinion, but I believe the real crime here was the cold blooded murder, followed by the fact they didn’t reopen the case, followed by the hypocrisy. By god, the hypocrisy.

[@heatherh.197]

I heart forensic files but I hate the darkness in them. The picture of Edna and her son is so sweet. This case is exceptionally heartbreaking 💔

[@uncomplicatedme8599]

It's the first that I've come across which has not been solved... you guys are soo good.

[@saydeesaydee2847]

I know.

[@Agirmetal]

This show is all about solved cases (and very rarely falsely solved) not unsolved ones

[@Ze_Moose]

Yeah but I like stories with good endings 😢

[@amandacherie5779]

I am very unsatisfied with this episode

[@cynicannkeel8899]

Why didn't authorities try to track down the activities of the woman after she was dropped off to go shopping.

[@ROBLOXGamingDavid]

This is one of the cases that it remained unsolved. The killer, be it Ruby or someone else, is out on the streets...

[@MLGPRO-dx8fg]

Insane because they have the DNA profiles of 3 men, and yet nobody has been caught. The fuck?

[@kenbob1071]

If it was Ruby, he's probably dead by now.

[@sunnygirl422]

It’s almost like they didn’t try at all. Was there no surveillance? No finger prints in the car? Nothing ? Even checking the database now to see if it matches someone would be smart🤦🏽‍♀️

[@hotbam37]

surveillance wasn't really a thing back then unless you were at a bank or something. They definitely gave up after they got butthurt by not putting "their" guy in jail. They don't care about the victim

[@Memg007]

It’s 1984 girl, it’s not as easy as laying on the sofa and scroll up and down of TikTok.

[@Games_Akimbo]

So wait. Someone got away with murder on this show?

[@sahabufonyuy3649]

Apparently

[@twiggi2739]

Yes, possibly four murders

[@skyjones9414]

How are they going to call the victim “a tramp”…?? It just doesn’t sit right with me to talk so negatively of a victim..

[@SharpTac]

Because she was

[@twiggi2739]

She technically was, if you want to say that she was promiscuous go right ahead but it all means the same thing. Kinda like calling a reatarded person “special”

[@eve9287]

If that's how she lived her life what do u want them to say ...that she was an angel

[@saterise]

@@eve9287 Some of you are so inhuman that you can't imagine giving respect to people who lived troubled lives. We want them to say she was a victim who didn't deserve to be murdered with no one who helped her and no one who cared. Better hope to god you never fall on hard times, or that people give you the grace you won't give to others.

[@jirkawa]

@@saterisehitler and most serial killers had troubled lives, what determines our worth as humans is how we react to these circumstances , and they reacted really badly obviously hers much better than the ones I mentioned but u get the point

[@shaundagilbert52]

The family couldn't take Randy in, that guy Ruby looks suspicious, we've heard stories about camp counselors.

[@kimmccabe1422]

If I ever win the lottery I would definitely give millions to forensic science to keep my loved ones and neighbors safe!

[@WeirdKidInManyFandoms]

I hate crimes but i love forensic. Thank you Lord for the amazing Dna and unique finger print. God bless us all and keep safe.

[@jimmyohara2601]

do not give thanks to fictional entities, give thanks where it is due. to FORENSIC science 😐

[@SweetChicagoGator]

Amen, but always keep a gun and a large dog or two. Esp if you are female !

[@iamV10010]

@Texas Forever They didn't impose atheism on anyone, they just said to give credit to science. The other person didn't impose religion either. Relax.

[@erlindahill3370]

🙏

[@warshipsatin8764]

@@jimmyohara2601 reported for islamoohobia

[@tommyaudio]

well damn! this one certainly threw us on a curve 😵

[@ThisIsJ.Nicole]

Sad this case is unresolved. Randy probably blocked out alot of memories from his childhood. They should have done an investigation about that.

[@Skip-sy2th]

Gee the brakes went on and a U-turn executed mighty quickly in that episode,we all thought they had got their man. From the information during the episode the victim had some inadequecies(don't we all?) but didn't deserve for her life to end like that.

[@PAPERCHASERS309]

I know right. But the narrator @12:36 created some doubt in my mind the way he said that.

[@superwoman6413]

I found specially disgusting the way the lawyer talked about the victim. No need to trash her now that you have your frigging veredict, AO

[@muffs55mercury61]

Last month (May 2023) marked 39 years and it's still unsolved. Donald Ruby is now 77 and did not sue for compensation for the wrongful conviction. Edna's son Randy would be about 51 now.

[@DiddlyD-xx2ih]

Ruby did it

[@sherberts]

@@DiddlyD-xx2ihso you were part of the investigation?

[@Unsolvedfanatic]

Dr. Haskell's licence plate is the BEST I've ever seen......MAGGOT

[@cz964]

Scary but one of a kind for sure. I couldn't believe what I saw for a moment as the word itself just creeps me out after all the crime stories I've heard.

[@masternoob9673]

Damn, the kid is the only normal one in this entire story 😑

[@fredh353]

That dude is creepy as hell, he would get nowhere near my kid with my permission

[@Waltiswicked]

Imagine all the low class bums that Edna used to get around with. To her, someone like Ruby would have been seen as the most trustworthy guy in her life.

[@mise8215]

I respect the time and interest the investigation take to make sure they get it right.

[@charlesrobert6211]

New evidence proves she died within 24 hours of being found, still plenty of time for him to commit the crime. They said he had an alibi for the entire time frame. If so who verified it? can't be the kid if he is asleep.

[@sweetness1586]

true ! even if he didnt rape her he still could have killed her but then where was she all that time with the other men ???

[@Pippie5555]

Ruby's wife Maser testified that she accompanied Ruby and Posey to town, but her testimony was undercut when the prosecution produced a timecard from her job at a Lancaster Sears store showing she was still at work when Ruby said they were taking Posey to buy clothes in Middletown. She later admitted that she lied.

[@Pippie5555]

Why did Ruby and his wife not report Posey missing? On the other hand, Did the police check the men behind the 3 DNAs?

[@cikosphysicaltherapist6017]

@@Pippie5555 never heard this, thank you for sharing this information. I Still think he's guilty, but bc she's being labeled as a slit she doesn't get Justice.

[@manassehengram597]

that kid probably recanted his statement out of fear of retaliation because his mind was so sharp about what he heard that night and now at the age of only 21 he can't remember nothing at all about what happened !!

[@ScorpioBeauty]

This!

[@sebastianolvera6923]

Or rather Ruby actually did pay Randy to recant his original statement to police cause Ruby has so much power

[@alecberrg]

I've watched quite a number of FF episodes and i've noticed that males, even some of the most awful perpetrators - are often described as a 'gentleman'. A DA (who is supposed to be on the side of victims) - describing a female victim as "She was what would generally be perceived as a tramp" shocked me 🤬

[@craigime]

why did it shock you? it's the truth. and what's wrong with them being described as "gentleman"? that's also not wrong

[@eilihfitzgerald7082]

Tramp is not the appropriate word. I too found it of poor taste. What ever way she lived her life, she deserves justice. Nobody knows what her life was like only her. RIP 💛 and I hope Randy is safe and happy somewhere

[@EclecticSceptic]

Yep it's sexism.

[@racoleman]

@@eilihfitzgerald7082 what is the appropriate word then? If the word is not appropriate perhaps her lifestyle wasn’t appropriate. No one should sugarcoat something just because of feelings.

[@racoleman]

@Alexandra Nakelski men aren’t called tramps bc of biology. Men are wired to spread their seed and women are wired for monogamy. It takes 9 months to carry a baby but a man can get multiple women pregnant within 9 months. That’s just nature. If a woman has multiple partners it doesn’t line up with nature since only one of them can get her pregnant. If she’s doing it for pleasure then yes it’s “questionable” in her character. Men and women ARE different whether you want to accept it or not. It’s nature’s design not a double standard

[@hermajesty52]

WHY would they keep saying the guy is guilty after the forensics exonerated him. Not sure about this one.

[@mugen3603]

@20:30 The jury thought y'all did a shitty job and did not provide enough evidence to convict this man. This is on you, not the jury.

[@heideggerm2]

The son's testimony at the 2nd trial was rather odd. At 13 years old he made a specific point of testifying that he heard a "thump in the night which sounded like someone falling out of bed" and then at age 21 he had NO recollection of saying that. If this had been a 75 year old who said that I could understand that 8 years later his memory might be lousy, but not a 13 year old, especially when your testimony was crucial to convicting the person who was charged with murdering your mother.

[@heatherh.197]

Btk

[@johnnyparker9928]

Good point. Evidence of dismemberment is not clear. There would be blood, lots of it. The trash bag origin, the box? Tools used? Luminal works long after clean up. Much evidence wasn't discovered.

[@johnnyparker9928]

Good point. Evidence of dismemberment is not clear. There would be blood, lots of it. The trash bag origin, the box? Tools used? Luminal works long after clean up. Much evidence wasn't discovered.

[@babagandu]

Lack of fresh organic foods and vitamins

[@rafaeltudlong6245]

And how about the set of semens?who owns them?i think peter thomas took this to his grave.rip

[@Butterflybloom4]

Amen...true no one deserves that kind death. No matter their lifestyle...

[@ScorpioBeauty]

Exactly

[@tikibar1169]

Reasonable doubt doesn’t mean Ruby is innocent

[@justinbell700]

Keep it coming Gents really in love with the forensic files show it's the best.

[@zuzellogan5613]

Dr. Neal Haskell is a great, great, if not the greatest entomologist. I have seen him in others case and he is always sharp who comes on top of everything. I have the utmost respect for Dr. Haskell, he is one of the greatest scientists of entomologist.

[@Dblock-gv9df]

That's it. Their should try located the bar she was at or guys she was with something. Case closed Bs

[@carlcushmanhybels8159]

with forensic genealogy now with the dna profiles they might be able to get somewhere. a good lawyer would get them off tho by pointing fingers at each other. unless more evidence turned up.

[@yasirakb79]

How’s finding Siemen of 3 men eliminates this guy Ruby .

[@nathalie_desrosiers]

Because of the time frame.

[@Dzzy123]

The semen, coupled with the incorrect analysis of the age of the flies, showed that Edna died at a later time. That's why the semen eliminated Ruby.

[@skrachamaniacs3878]

I have to agree, unproven allegations aka rumors should NEVER be allowed to be heard by a jury. Guilty or not he deserves a fair and impartial jury at the very least!!! We all do people!

[@TheWilder30]

At least he's out of Jail. Some get wrongly convicted and spend the rest of their life in Jail

[@manleynelson9419]

Not enough evidence to put Ruby in jail.

[@davidhamilton3673]

The best line: Donald Ruby will have a special place in his heart for the welfare of the flies. For him, the flies meant the difference between freedom and jail.

[@joseph7881]

Only way to find the killer would be to find the bars she was last seen and also question the ex husband she was with, in order to find the killer they must explorer deeper, most killers will leave prints or they will be the person she was last seen with. Most bartenders will see who these people she was included with, in other words if she left with 3 men in a bar then the bartender will show what the 3 men looked like and what car they drove before the killing accured.

[@golfmaniac007]

its the ex husband that got acquitted that is the guilty person. the cardboard used and how it matches with trunk should be a dead giveaway.

[@koisneurotypical]

They didn't they find her Army boyfriend and test his sperm with the samples? Ah so many unanswered questions! I am sure there is more to the case than FF was able to fit into a show. Thank you so much for the upload- I have seen over 10 volumes of this show on Netflix, but it's always more fun to watch it with others on YT :)

[@adotintheshark4848]

the sperm samples alone won't prove anything. they would just say who she had sex with.

[@pamgypsyaries8049]

Lol! The etymologist’s license plate….

[@angelaburroughs4584]

His license plate: Maggot 😂

[@MLGPRO-dx8fg]

The pedophilia accusations are beyond disgusting and profoundly unprofessional. This kind of trash is littered in other 90s/00s cases shown on this show and I don't get how this is allowed in court. Unsubstantiated claims to just hurl at eachother in the court of law, amazing!

[@sherberts]

And everyone here believes that statement as fact. It was used to speculate motive

[@AS-qg1xu]

Agreed

[@joandevries1892]

Thank God; all will come right in the end!

[@Vahe345]

I hate how prosecutors hate losing a case even though they know he has to be innocent

[@david808323]

this one could be revisited. It seems there's more work could be done. I hope the guilty was not acquitted.

[@Browningate]

Yeah, definitely one of the less satisfying episodes of the show.

[@thomasplouffe1363]

This makes me sick, burying a murder woman in a unmarked grave is horrific, even worst, when i was watching the forensic files "sundays wake" it said the little girl was buried in a unmarked grave. She was only two years old

[@Metallization]

even her name is forensic-y E-DNA 😆😆

[@sunflowerz54]

Forensic genealogy today may help!

[@cogitoergospud1]

They didn’t have enough to charge him, much less to try him a second time.

[@carlcushmanhybels8159]

i remember watching this case several years ago. i didn't remember how it ended though.

[@markfurney3670]

This is the only one that never got solved

[@Hamad-Almass]

This one of important cases that should be reopened due to the investigators were not qualified or simply they were lazy

[@dunduddy]

The prosecutors in both case had it out for this guy. No shit the buddy left after his release. Its been proven he wasnt the killer yet they still paint him as so.

[@ronque23]

Edna may have been a long time resident of Pound Town, but she didn’t deserve to die and she was at least trying to clean herself up to be a mother to her son.

[@TheNuckinFoob]

8:30 I like that she doesn't want to be identified out of fear. Except you can clearly see her full profile, not to mention you can obviously tell she's VERY elderly. I don't think it would take a very smart person to deduce who she is if you're at all familiar with her circle of friends. 😂🤣😂🤣

[@taviajenae6530]

Lol right i was thinking this every time she spoke she sounded like she didn’t have any teeth😅

[@faykouri1162]

👍❤️forensics!

[@marshalldukes8]

Such an unsatisfying episode. I know they have a time frame, but this one needed an exception. Needed more details on Ruby's alabi and the victim's activities/whereabouts after being "dropped off".

[@theresahenderson3534]

What are the definitive signs of rape and must it be present to call it rape?

[@Profasee-ge3cy]

It’s not that Ruby didn’t want to give him up as his son, he didn’t want the truth being told. Where did Randy end up???

[@PAPERCHASERS309]

First ever unsolved episode I’ve seen on FF’s. First time for everything I guess.

[@omg-ohmyguide2464]

The car of the Entomologist says MAGGOT!

[@charminglliang839]

I hope one day someone from somewhere there come out and will tell when the time they last saw Edna and who's with her that Saturday night or Sunday morning 😢 I feel sorry for the son too 😢

[@tedhuntington7692]

the case needs to be re-opened and genie the deenie (do geneological trace on the dna)

[@aerys9644]

13:34 MAGGOT thats an amazing license plate for someone who studies flies!

[@Texas_Made_]

6:20 smdh....this is very common these days unfortunately,poor son

[@drewizkoollikeicecre]

Who knows if he’s guilty, but when you’re talking about jury trials you have to remember, you can one with PhD’s and one with people that barely made it through middle school. Jury trials are just a crapshoot for that very reason.

[@babagandu]

Exactly, even judges make wrong judgments. Just like freedom and forcing masks on people ...

[@ahmedrefaat1086]

So since this case is closed it's now being unsolved !! In so doing Is this now the perfect murder ??

[@shortandcut]

This guy moveout of town to live a new life, not because he is guilty.

[@TNT-km2eg]

Kissin children on mouth ?

[@SukumarDevaguptapuLife-Smiles]

They sure would have checked the 3 DNA profiles did not meet any criminal/murderer -- so the people Edna socialized..even before, in all the years, were not murders (or bad persons) either. The "thump" sound of a body falling, is the result of a fatal blow to the head..but the head could not be recovered..! Something happened that night in the house, which made Edna disappear..!

[@AS-qg1xu]

Or she dropped something, or tripped on something on the way back from the bathroom, or fell out of bed.

[@tinge1954]

Wow, three different men . She was a really giving lady.

[@BrenMurphy1]

Or people at the morgue...

[@Jace0821]

How do u kno she wasn't raped. Just because it doesn't look like a woman has been raped she still could have been

[@nathalie_desrosiers]

Or a gang rape. Which would give a motive to kill her.

[@Y-xz6kh]

It could also be that Edna was gang raped by these 3 men. She was at the bar and drinking was involved. Alcohol makes it harder for a victim to fight back and if enough alcohol is within the body to have a person be drunk or completely drunk is not able to do much damage to fight back compared to when a person is sober. Which is why any man or any woman who goes after a drunk person to have sex with the person is taking advantage of the person. The reason being a drunk person is not able to properly give consent to sex compared to if the individual is sober and giving consent to sex.

[@JulieFennell-un4xw]

​@@Y-xz6khyour very nieve

[@lulub1415]

The entomologist’s plate said MAGGOT 🤣☠️🤓

[@marciam6224]

Couldn't watch much beyond 9:00. I had my laptop up as loud as it would go and same with the volume of the video and still could hardly hear it. Just my luck...it's an episode I hadn't seen before.

[@2k_]

they should check whose dna's were and they might find at least one!

[@Eleanorscatmom]

This happened in a place called Watts Township PA. That explains the way the cops talk about her and the lack of follow-through to me completely. I live like 30 minutes from there and the only thing people know Watts for is the bad speed trap and not to get off at that exit because there's nothing but cops looking for a ticket there, no gas stations nada. They sit in the easement of the exit to speed trap people because it's used so rarely. The only defense I can think of for why the case wasn't solved is because Perry County is a very small, very ill funded county.

[@monalisasssmile]

yo what’s with pennsylvania and dead people in boxes. as a pennsylvanian, something’s sus

[@AS-qg1xu]

Interesting!

[@divinewon73]

🌈💯 At 6:13 The policeman referred to the female victim… “she was generally perceived to be a tramp…“ judgemental which was obnoxious being that she was a murder victim and might have been making money the best way she could for her little boy. Disgusting disrespect!🤮

[@robertdog]

"...she was generally perceived to be a tramp." This was the district attorney speaking, not "the policeman." Also, this is a factual statement based on the background of the victim, witness statements, and other case information. He was actually being polite by not referring to her as the whore she was. Cry some more.

[@MizzMetallikat76]

1000% agree, was disgraceful!

[@Sigma2HisAlpha]

This is so sad and tragic. In the sense that, the way you live can truly determine your path to life or death. When they surmised that there was semen from 3 different individuals within the 24 hours that she died…. Whew …. She left and went away to get her life on track but came back and still behaved in a way that was harmful to both herself and her son. Smh. Poor Randy man. Living with a man suspected of pedophilia and his mom with the way she was. Lord have mercy.

[@craigime]

yeah. it's always the kids who suffer when adults act ridiculous

[@Sigma2HisAlpha]

@@craigime it absolutely is. So sad man

[@Ledognatripus]

Maybe she was raped by 3 men when she was murdered… don’t be so quick to assume or judge , just because someone might be struggling in life does not mean they deserve to be killed or held in any less regard than any other person … she was a human being, a daughter, a mother and she was trying to turn things around … you have no idea how easily your life can go off the rails and if it never happens to you then be grateful for your good fortune in life … but don’t look down on others ,that certainly doesn’t put you in any better position no matter where you are in life

[@8luvbug]

I like how you automatically assume that she only had 3 different sperm in her because she was being promiscuous, but don't consider that she could've been raped

[@Sephiroth766]

Does it bother anyone else how at the end they don’t even address that her murder is still unsolved, once Donald Ruby is exonerated? They treat her death like an afterthought, after the investigators called her a tramp earlier in the episode.

[@adalbertoavitia3086]

So who killed her then??

[@yangafuba1865]

So the case was never solved, but I still say Ruby did kill this woman

[@d.m.5102]

Agreed, not having a semen in her does not mean he could not kill her

[@infonut]

Why did no one question the necessity of cutting her up to begin with? I would think if you would go through the that trouble you would hide the torso better than sliding it down a hill in a public park in such a noticeable box.

[@safaith6502]

I think Ruby did it.

[@queensumeya]

We need closure from this case.

[@taydestiny38]

I remember seeing this case on HBO’s Autopsy. I love forensics files because of it’s raw footage of crime scenes, but it doesn’t come close to Autopsy.

[@rubywarner34]

I remember watching Autopsy when I was a kid. I couldn't sleep for days.

[@thomaszentner856]

8:31 it's Betty White

[@zwatwashdc]

Hmmm. What did the kid say? It would be pretty ironic if the guy was just decent and took a kid in that was in trouble. Why didn’t any of Edna’s family take him in? No good deed goes unpunished.

[@sherberts]

That's why I won't foster- opens people up to be accused of abuse if you set rules they don't like

[@AS-qg1xu]

Agreed

[@danlhendl]

Just look for someone missing a torso

[@markraymo997]

Nobody knows where he is now....

[@Mike-01234]

Opening a cardboard box in the wilderness wonder what you find. I bet that doctor had no problem with getting the personalized license plate "Maggot".

[@AS-qg1xu]

Both your points are great!

[@ciro8861]

District Attorney calling the victim a tramp, yikes😬 horrible sentiments from the investigators