Forever England 1935 John Mills

[@gordonfrickers5592]

Great to see the emerging talent of a young John Mills, thank you for this classic post, story based upon 'Brown on Resolution' by C S Forester, published 1929.

[@daviddavies2072]

Brilliant film ,👍❤️🇬🇧

[@danrooc]

The German ship was actually cruiser HMS Curacoa, which collided with RMS Queen Mary and sank in 1942.

[@laankebygg3685]

I don't believe John Mills was ever in what one could call a bad movie. This one was excellent. However, I did like the ending better in the 1953 version. Thank you for posting. I have seen this one 3 or 4 times and the 1953 one several times. Thank you for posting.

[@Flowerchild778]

He was probably picky😊

[@rescuepetsrule6842]

Excellent movie- I like the ending of the remake better, but this older film is great. I would think someone in England would restore anything Mills was in- all gems. TY!

[@michaelcoker3197]

This film deserves to be restored!

[@nevsmate8663]

nooooooo.... leave it as is. I've seen movies that have been ruined through restoration & colourised.🤮

[@rescuepetsrule6842]

Right! NOT colorized, but cleaned up for HD.

[@johngovus6580]

When I see what has happened to my country I could weep

[@paulguzman1634]

Amen Brother, we are living through some very dark times for all! The people that are supposed to be our leaders have turned on us and forgotten the mistakes of the past, dooming the world to another terrible war if they are not stopped. To take care of each other while we strive to remedy this evil is all that we as a people can do - Worldwide.

[@columbmurray]

Just watched a KZbin clip of a policewoman being verbally abused by a recent arrival Muslim while his fried filmed . He said don't you dare ask me .Then says you can go now. And she did ! Looking at the authority of the policeman in this film.

[@Toontex]

Shame that your country appears to be Nazi Germany😊

[@Daveinstthomas5212]

It's like that all over except in Poland and Hungary.

[@rescuepetsrule6842]

If you mean the US, I could weep, too.

[@ednammansfield8553]

An excellent film with a very young John Mills. Sailor of the crown is another one worth watching from the 1950's with a similar story when a British Sailor escapes from the sickbay of a German ship called the 'Blucher' or something like that. The sailor in that also climbed a cliff with a rifle and fired on the German sailors carrying out repairs on the ship which had anchored in a cove. The ending was different to this film though as the sailor survived.

[@peterjohnson617]

Thank you so much for this......just a few day`s ago I watched the remake of this from 1953 " Sailor of the King".....enjoyed both greatly......so much better than the pure junk hollywood has put out for the last 30/40 years.I`ll take these old B/W`s anyday.....

[@daviddd99]

I have to say Jeffrey Hunter is infinitely more pleasing to the eye, but interesting the compare the two versions.

[@TheWorldofGood79]

Gosh don't John Mills and Jimmy Hanley look young! I've recently been watching Sir John in Young at Heart on KZbin with Megs Jenkins who was in Tiger Bay with him. Young at Heart is from 1980 to 82 and a really enjoyable TV series. I had never heard of Forever England or Sailor of the King, which I will look up. Sir John was in one of my favourite films This Happy Bread and Jimmy Hanley was in another favourite The Blue Lamp. Modern films don''t interest me at all. Thanks so much for posting this, I'm really enjoying it.

[@claudemaassen2963]

Good one. Thank you.

[@donnamalcolm72]

Och, what a sad ending! I was hoping Alber😅t would be reunited with his mum AND his dad. John Mills was a great actor. One of my favs.

[@oddsteinardybvad-raneng]

In the remake, this did happen. 🙂 A much better and happier ending.

[@stevehelliwell9101]

They don't make them like that any more. Fab film.

[@juk-hw5lv]

the intro theme is one of the most uplifting and militaristic i ever hears

[@kennethbooker4955]

Another great film good cast

[@clydedisney6569]

I wish this fim had been a bit longer It would have been great to see Brown's mother visited by thr Father and give some honor to the woman who raised such a brave man.

[@mikebrown1926]

Yes, but in the book Brown's mother had already died of cancer. She had followed the career of Brown's birth father but never contacted him or informed him that she had borne his child.

[@johnnunn8688]

@@mikebrown1926, SPOILER ALERT, to anyone, (like me) intending to find the book. You could have said, you need to read the book, for the proper ending.

[@mikebrown1926]

@@johnnunn8688 Sorry Old Chap, I wasn't thinking.

[@johnnunn8688]

@@mikebrown1926, just kidding. I have so many books on my shelf, I’m trying to not order any more.

[@mikebrown1926]

@@johnnunn8688 Me too, and I have a copy of everything that C S Forester wrote.

[@Bill23799]

This film was remade in 1953 and released as The Sailor of the King, also known as Brown on Resolution.

[@crankbv1]

This was indeed an earlier version of Sailor Of The King, a rarely seen but very fine film that was unusual in that at the end the film was stopped and an announcement made to the audience that they were about to be shown an alternative ending and inviting them to tick their preference on slips provided in the foyer as they left the theater. I've never seen that done before or since and have never understood the reasoning behind it.

[@Duffloop]

They do it all the time at pre screenings these days (allegedly) marketing crap.

[@crankbv1]

duffloop; Thanks for the info'.I can understand that, for pre screening marketing reasons where it allows a choice of ending prior to release,but for a film that has already been distributed it seems a bit pointless. There must have been some logic to it somewhere though.

[@Bill23799]

Was the alternate ending similar to the remake of the film with Michael Rennie where AB Seaman Brown and the Captain are awaiting an audience with the King? I wonder which ending most matches the ending in C.S. Forester's novel upon which both films are based?

[@Brucev7]

@@Duffloop Yes. I attended dozens of screenings over the years. It was more rare when the audience as asked about this.

[@trooperdgb9722]

@@Bill23799 In the book (WW1 BTW) he dies on the island. His father, the captain of the British ship that sinks the German raider knows nothing about him.

[@oddsteinardybvad-raneng]

There was a remake of this movie where the king awarded both the Captain and Brown.

[@ginnerize]

love any movie with John Mills in.

[@Duffloop]

Got a favourite? Hmm I think I can guess...

[@kevshearer3245]

dunkirk and ice cold in alex

[@francisaselin856]

I miss movies that were inspirational.

[@donnamalcolm72]

The old classics are the best. Way better than today's movies.

[@macabhaird8789]

Great story - thanks

[@markanthonymarla]

I LOVE JOHN MILLS AND WHAT AN AMAZING LIST OF ADDED MOVIES SUPERB !!!! ... Noel Cowards In Which We Serve ... outstanding ! ... Do you please have or are able to get the . . . The Colditz Story With John Mills Please THANK YOU ...

[@tomtonkyro7209]

1:00 HMS Leopard 1914 looks an awful lot like HMS Ajax 1939...just the ship to be running around South America hunting German raiders if a war breaks out!

[@Skylark_Jones]

"Marrying above you is as bad as marrying beneath you: it's bound to turn out wrong in the end." Is this still true today?

[@knearhood8]

Ask Meghan Markle LOL

[@notapilot1]

Oh! I saw 'Sailor of the King' just a month ago and totally missed the thing about the young hero being the son of the cruiser flotilla captain. That version did not bring the two together very well.

[@TJ-zl3tx]

Check out the 1950's version, Single Handed. Similar plot, different war. Jeffrey Hunter instead of John Mills. Michael Rennie is excellent. No spoilers, watch & enjoy.

[@Brucev7]

'Sailor of the King' 1953 Good Movie

[@TheJustinhcase]

Dam, even Sailor of the King was a remake.

[@Duffloop]

Lol - yup - but in this case both are good 😀

[@kevinmccarthy8746]

God I love England. The movie Sailor of the King , very advanced back then.

[@indewire]

O, you're quite a Don John. Great flic.

[@Sparky-ov1ot]

10:30 that's what we need now, don't think anything remotely near it will ever happen again, and we'll all sink into a sea of muck!

[@mikearakelian6368]

This is brown on resolution or sailor of the king

[@tomwotton6433]

Really embarrassed by the fact that it wasn't until 1:08:09 that I realised this was the original version of Sailor of the King (1953) love Tom

[@kateogedengbe162]

Dr Daniel Olukoya 🔛Good Night 💤🌙 😊 Sweet Dream 🌠🌠🌠🌠🌠🌠🌠 Good Night 💤🌙 😊 Sweet Dream 🌠🌠🌠🌠🌠🌠🌠 ،،00

[@kateogedengbe162]

Tom Wotton 🚙💨🚦🚗🚕🚓

[@Cyril_Squirrel]

Well - for sure that is something to be embarrassed about.

[@andrewmullen4003]

loved the book

[@alzys1771]

Little did they know , it would be gone in under 100 years..

[@LuciThomasHardylover-qx6ts]

What?! The days when 'a gentleman ' could just walk away from a policeman who calls him sir, and takes his card and a tip/ bribe to let him go from the scene of a crash?? I wish it had gone! Bankers and politicians commit fraud involving hundreds of thousands of millions and move to their next job...a poor single mother doesn't declare a few hours of work cash in hand and finds herself in court. Nothing changed that much.

[@63bplumb]

Yes! John Mills was young! The man that played the singing German later played Dr. Watson to the son of Leslie Howard in the black and white televised serial Sherlock Holmes.

[@63bplumb]

@AMT Yes. Ronald Howard in the 1954 TV series "Sherlock Holmes". Half hour pieces that I think are actually quite good.

[@GuttenfraVrnes-mo9uv]

A great movie, though I prefer the alternate ending in Sailor of the King with Michael Rennie, where AB Seaman Brown and the Captain are awaiting decorations by the King. With Jeffrey Hunter as Signalman Andrew 'Canada' Brown, Michael Rennie as Lieutenant / Captain Richard Saville, Peter van Eyck as Kapitän Ludwig von Falk, Wendy Hiller as Lucinda Bentley, Bernard Lee as Petty Officer Wheatley, Victor Maddern as Signalman Willy Earnshaw, and John Horsley as Commander John WillisPatrick. This was also released as 'Single-Handed'. As found on Wikipedia: First ending The landing party searches the island for Brown as the camera pans to his apparently dead body. The action then cuts to London and an honours investiture, where Saville receives a knighthood for his actions. Brown was found dead by the landing party and was awarded a Victoria Cross posthumously, presented to his mother. She is revealed to be the former Lucinda Bentley, who had moved to Canada after her tryst with Saville. She and Saville meet before she goes to accept her son's medal. [I have yet to see the last part where Savill and Lucinda Bentley meet]. Second ending The action cuts straight from the German survivor to an honours investiture in London, where Brown, who has, in this version, survived to receive his VC, meets Saville. Brown tells Saville that his English mother - to whom he owes his joining the navy - is living in Montreal and unable to make it to the ceremony (though whether or not she is Lucinda is not revealed). Saville informs Brown that he will be his signaller on their next posting on the North Atlantic convoy routes. They will both probably get a chance to see his mother in Canada. The pair then stand to attention as the national anthem plays.

[@astridvallati4762]

Forever England Sailor of the Queen, Brown on Resolution ( alternate title) Set alternately in WWI and,WWII, Based on the Cruiser Battle in 1914, off Chile ( real action) Good Films all. DocAV

[@StuPony111]

Coronel November 1st 1914

[@johnnunn8688]

Enjoyed that. Did A/B Brown shoot his boxing mate, Max, on the repair job?

[@charliedrake247]

All speaking good English as we should be proud of

[@ThomasPrior-wv6zn]

heart,s of OAK ROYAL NAVY AMEN

[@rogerwileman9965]

It’s people forgetting what we were and believing lies . We CAN get it back 😊it will mean a lot of hard work and faith. I wish everybody good luck.

[@anthonydeary9476]

No employment for a Handsome cab lamp fitter these days...

[@AR-xt8kn]

Not much Sid.

[@blue_leader1833]

Wow this film is the same story as "Sailor Of The King" 1953 I thought it seemed a familiar story and I only watch the Sailor Of The King a week ago and as i watched this film I couldn't believe I was the same story unfolding

[@Duffloop]

Yup - damn remakes huh ;-) Did you prefer one over the other?

[@blue_leader1833]

HI @@Duffloop well I'm a fan of john mills so I really enjoyed this film but to be honest I thought the "Sailor Of The King" was a story told better and a little more interesting, but i did enjoy both

[@trooperdgb9722]

They are both versions from C.S. Foresters BOOK "Brown on resolution" Doesn't anyone READ anymore?

[@trooperdgb9722]

@AMT Asking a question is rude? OK! Whatever...

[@flipper184]

The Germans could have turned the boat around and no longer presented the working parties to fire.

[@Duffloop]

But our intrepid hero might have relocated too ;-)

[@unitedwestand5100]

His own son... Excellent film!

[@dasboot5903]

Yeap !! Movie "Sailor of the King" has two different endings, and is located in time during WW the second, where Brits were fighting not with the Imperial Kriegsmarine, but with the Nazi Kriegsmarine !!!!

[@antoniod]

So this was re-issued the same year it was first released?

[@obroberts6533]

I saw the newer version of this a couple months ago, Seaman Brown lived in that one.

[@ladymeghenderson9337]

erm it opens in 1893 with the naval exhibition, Queen Victoria was still alive then, yet it looks like King George and Queen Mary are depicted on the mug, how does that work? This is an earlier rendition of another story, in which Jeffrey Hunter starred, similar story line, mother meets a sailor, has a child and gets the lad into the navy., the film stars Wendy Hiller and Michael Rennie. it was called single handed(sailor of the king) The only difference being that Jeffery Hunter's charecter suvived and got the V.C

[@alanharper2734]

KGV and QM were Duke and Duchess of York at the time. He was still a serving naval officer at the time so it would be appropriate.

[@albertorimoldi8713]

KGV and Mary of Teck married in 1893

[@eliotreader8220]

way is one of the war ships in the film shown to be fitted with coal fired boilers i thought that all Royal Navy ships was converted to oil fired boilers after WW1

[@trooperdgb9722]

Well.this is set IN WW1... so...???

[@runandraisans6055]

Excellent film and a very young John mills

[@windypup8845]

why don't they just turn the ship around putting the repair side out of john mills sight and reach?

[@Duffloop]

windy pup Cos little john mills mighta scuttled over to that side while they were turning 🤓

[@Cyril_Squirrel]

They were in a narrow channel. Couldn't turn the ship, that's why they had to back out of the bay.

[@c3aloha]

In the book the ship is listed over to repair the hole so can’t move

[@trooperdgb9722]

@@c3aloha In the book the ship DOES move and Brown swims over to the other side! The island ("Resolution" in the BOOK which the movie is based on) is an extinct volcanic caldera... most of a circle....

[@jimclark6256]

Note to all British navy commanding officers," If the enemy guns have your range and you do not have theirs's", break off action. German hits 30 +, British 1. Seems like common sense was missing.

[@Quentin217]

The song Danny Boy was not written until '16.

[@simonf8902]

Back when Britain worked as a nation.

[@LuciThomasHardylover-qx6ts]

It is a film... not real life. There were criminals and people willing to break the rules, it's just that they were not glorified as dramatically interesting like they are now.

[@alanrowell1592]

I think one of the ships was HMS York.

[@ralebeau]

Not the smoothest script or direction, but enjoyable.

[@alexandermethven]

a great movie ,pitty they didnt bring the boys service back,or a national service.👍👍👍👍

[@michaelosullivan1394]

this film is mentioned in ww2 German Naval instructions as an example of kindness to an enemy POW been taken advantage of..SO ww2 no more rescues of sailors

[@chrisbell5920]

God Save The King

[@jannyrocks1815]

Anyone else found it uncomfortable to watch John Mills' character kissing his Mother on the lips and all the cuddling, it was a bit too lovey dovey, thought at one point they were going to have a full blown snog! (or are men like that with their mothers behind closed doors? ;-)

[@riversofjoy6529]

Janette Bowler different times. My aunties and Mum always used to kiss on the lips. The fashion changed and a kiss on the cheeks became the norm. But sometimes the very elderly, those nearly 100 years old, still do it.

[@mindrolling24]

Jeez...how can you make maternal affection seem sleazy? Mother of 2 sons, and no- no kissing on the lips- but hugs and head and cheek kisses all the time. Even the boys, aged 17 and 21 hug each other. It’s love, not incest.

[@officialblueboy1509]

I found the bottom slapping and cuddling a little odd. Even if this was the earlier part of the last century, it wasn’t typical English behaviour. Maybe this is more likely to have happened since John Mills’ father was absent from his upbringing.

[@internetpolification]

Says more about you than the film, I’d say

[@jellybean3731]

It is well recorded that most young men call out for their mothers shortly before death when fatally injured on the battlefield. Modern politics have deliberately set out to destroy the nuclear family bond, hence your misunderstanding of a strong mother & son relationship. You have been brainwashed by media - sad.

[@RobinHood-yy3nq]

Good

[@MarcStjames-rq1dm]

I bet the book is better by far.

[@trooperdgb9722]

Its very good. What C.S. Forester books aren't? lol

[@williamavery9185]

Fantastic film watch it .

[@oneshoewalker2365]

much more realistic compare to the younger version

[@Brightstarlivesteam]

I thought all ships had steam turbines not reciprocating engines?

[@trooperdgb9722]

Depends when they were built! Turbinia the first experimental turbine powered ship wasn't launched until 1894.

[@Brightstarlivesteam]

@@trooperdgb9722 before steam turbines they used triple expansion steam engines

[@trooperdgb9722]

@@Brightstarlivesteam Umm..yes of course? Nothing I said suggested otherwise. Just pointing out WHEN turbines started to come on to the scene...

[@enochpowelghost]

A classic story

[@tedthesailor172]

High Street, Norwood? They wouldn't recognise the place now...!

[@davidhull1481]

Listed as Born for Glory on IMDb

[@davidhull1481]

@AMT erm, you’re not a stalker, are you? Chalk it up to similar tastes.

[@davidhull1481]

@AMT I wouldn’t know how to search for someone like that

[@sunseeker8457]

This is another great film with John Mills. But is exactly the same story from the 1953 `Sailor of the King´ film. Same idea where a german ship hides for repairs. Same idea where the capture British sailor sneaks out from sickbay and swims to the cliffs and starts shooting the Germans while they do repairs etc.

[@bill-2018]

Wasting shells and time on one man? Why not take the ship further out, he couldn't possibly catch up to it scrambling across rocks.

[@toosiyabrandt8676]

HI AWWWWW! I wanted father and son to be reunited! Shalom to us only in Christ Yeshua

[@debrawlins6790]

Forever England if only they knew what's it like now , finished

[@melbea03]

John Mills when he was a kid

[@lunatic3783]

why did the Brits feel it necessary to use kids in the navy and army in the 1800's

[@Duffloop]

Size is one factor - hauling powder without crouching. Cheap labour for menial jobs.

[@redrb26dett]

Better than starving or prison read Oliver Twisting I don't say acceptable but lesser of two evils

[@Dog.soldier1950]

A different time

[@johngreen3543]

You forgot that GB had a huge empire requiring a correspondingly large Navy and Army. A midshipman started at a young age. Just read about the problems the Royal Navy had in getting seamen. The war of 1812 was over impressment if you recall our history. So schools had to be made for the purpose of supplying bodies and it seemed they never could get enough. Also it was a fact that young men of the aristocracy went into politics or the military forming their officer corps.

[@trooperdgb9722]

SURE..they were the ONLY ones.... Jeez. EVERYONE had very young cadets in those days.

[@johnrawlins6147]

How wrong we were

[@fredjones7705]

Hayley Mills Dad?

[@Duffloop]

Yes sir.

[@kennethbooker4955]

This film was made at Shepherd’s Bush

[@Skylark_Jones]

That's the Law for you: someone pulls rank with a posh voice gives 'em a bribe and a smile and they're all yours - at least, in 1893. I hope that's not true today...? 🤔

[@rogerpartner1622]

Lol proper old vaudeville actors lol she’s olde enough to be his mother. And that voice. She’s sings those WARBLING lines from Those greats. ( ARRGGH I cannot Rember the Writer and composer of all the greats ) help. Famous lines. Like TWO LITTLE MAIDS. The JAPANESE popular operas oooh god it. It’s killing mr on the tip of my tongue. . Oh Sullivan and Neil . Nope not that. But you all Know

[@Duffloop]

Gilbert and Sullivan?

[@lunatic3783]

men being named ginger

[@Dog.soldier1950]

britishism

[@kennethkappes8666]

It might've been a common name in the old days, but it could be considered laughable now.

[@pauliejwdayhr]

From e.los Angeles good film

[@vger3157]

Sailor of the King WWI style.

[@trooperdgb9722]

And therefore more faithful to the book "Brown on Resolution" on which both movies were based.

[@robertschaaf7192]

yay

[@britishpatriot7386]

Americans tried to steal this bit of history too.

button boy right up top now they dont want orks like me they turned me down in 69 faild broke my heart

[@MrTatts64]

Forevwer England... And the lead actress portrayed who? Another single mum! Over 100 years later and it seems to have caught on in the UK ;)

[@John-lv1zq]

Irish were rooting for the Germans

[@Satters]

england sadly is not what it was

[@yan24to]

England has lost a lot.

[@Peter-uy3ti]

An excellent British movie. Later stolen by the Yanks. No surprise there

[@NickPeters-ug7vk]

English re-enforced junk.. "Peasants , be grateful , be thankful and be quiet" ...

[@MrDorbel]

Bloody awful film and a travesty of the book on which it is based.

[@johngreen3543]

I have never heard anyone mention in any movie that the movie was better than the book. Even those that have read MM's "Gone With The Wind" feel the book is better than the movie. Or those that have read L. Frank Baum"s Oz books think the book is better than the movie. It is in the nature of us humans who love books to think books are the best form of entertainment.

[@domdegood5376]

THAT WAS BRITAIN BEFORE CHURCHILL SOLD HER OUT.

[@Trillock-hy1cf]

Idiot snowflake fluffy.

[@domdegood5376]

Jew.

[@Trillock-hy1cf]

Nope, not at all. But at least I am not an ill informed teenage snowflake.....:)

[@gavinreid8351]

Dom Degood explain what you mean.

[@Trillock-hy1cf]

Using capital letters all the time is considered shouting.......so there. Plus, if you want to be noticed, then post something sensible, instead of ranting on about the Jews all the time.

[@dolores1189]

pure war PROPAGANDA

Dolores what war was fought in 1935 that involved the English?

[@mctavish199]

Oh dear! Dodo Dolores. And even if it had been made post 1939, what do you expect? Tips on caring for your gladioli?

[@lordeden1475]

IGNORAMOUS WHAT DO YOU EXPECT WITH NAZI GERMANY GEARING UP FOR WAR AT THE TIME!