Forge World is dead. What now?

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Forge World as its own entity with its own brand is dead, fully absorbed into Warhammer proper with models now under the 15+ label on the warhammer.com website. A good move if we're trying to reduce confusion. But what does that mean for the kits being moved to Legends, the niche models, the tanks now competing with plastic kits?
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@Kirioth
@Kirioth Ай бұрын
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@clinch4402
@clinch4402 Ай бұрын
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@Dumbmaster1
@Dumbmaster1 Ай бұрын
Worth noting that Warmag no longer ships outside of the UK, at least that's what their customer service told me two weeks ago, they were hoping to go back to international again if possible though
@jonscott6459
@jonscott6459 Ай бұрын
It’s a real shame they didn’t redo the Macharius in plastic, instead of the Rogal Dorn.
@Deadjim17
@Deadjim17 Ай бұрын
100% The Rogal Dorn looks soooo bad compared to the Macharius. I've made it more paletable to my eyes but yeah would still rather a Macarius. Mortian Tank though do a model that fits the Rogal Dorn and looks more Macharius like though
@horriblypink
@horriblypink Ай бұрын
​@Deadjim17 its the Turret, to be honest, l saw it swapped with a Mortain Minis Turret, which is Forge World style and it already looked way better. It's just too bubbley and doesn't fit the look of any previous vehicle.
@jamesespinosa690
@jamesespinosa690 Ай бұрын
@@horriblypink I like that it doesn't fit the look of what came before. I like the diversity of design. It's a galactic empire. I've been waiting for more variance in the guard for decades now. They have different flavours of infantry, why not different flavours of armour? I like that it feels like a Sherman on steriods.
@CMTechnica
@CMTechnica Ай бұрын
@@jamesespinosa690that’s the issue with it. The Dorn is the most generic unit in the Guard range. It’s a Tamiya M4 Jumbo with extra steps. That’s beyond lame, it’s lazy.
@CMTechnica
@CMTechnica Ай бұрын
Definitely a shame they didn’t do the Macharius, especially since the workings for the plastic Malcador was happening, just not publicly announced until recently (and now they’re available). And since they’re pushing the Death Corps of Cringe so much, why not the tank they made famous, lorewise? Shameful, really. The consoomers in the Imperial Guard will slurp up this unfinished and lazy excuse of a tank because we haven’t had a proper 40k guard update, just an infantry refresh. The Dorn is the laziest thing I’ve seen from them in a long while. And Squats came back.
@jasonh.7661
@jasonh.7661 Ай бұрын
It is real shame that FW is no more. The Imperial Armour series was great and really added an additional level of depth and storytelling to 40K. I remember when I went to Warhammer World back in 2005 when I was in the UK on a student exchange program and I really wanted to get an Eldar Phoenix Bomber but they were out of stock. The FW guy at store at WW told me he would phone the guys on the factory floor and have them cast me one for me to swing back by and pick up before taking the train back to London.
@talonryckert6084
@talonryckert6084 Ай бұрын
GW is just not making good decisions these last months
@Erikjust
@Erikjust Ай бұрын
Well they wanted to suck on the teat of Woke and ESG, they need to be prepared to face the consequences of such decisions. They are already chasing away most of their whales with their move to femstodes. The price hikes are going to make even more players say "Zog dis" and go over to Ebay, recasters or 3d printers. Personally i think Macca´s comments on saving GW, is the right way to go if they want to last. If not the question will be whether they will still be around in 15 years or so or if they will have gone belly up by then.
@notknightbean
@notknightbean Ай бұрын
I agree. Lot of reasons to be unhappy recently.
@Kubrzesz
@Kubrzesz Ай бұрын
And how many purchases either of you made via FW and how much money did you spend there? If not much, well, there's your answer
@notknightbean
@notknightbean Ай бұрын
@@Kubrzesz plenty of medusan immortals, gorgons, and an iron father + dread. I just wish my iron hands legion actually got some more love over just another imperial fist or SOH character. Least we have meduson now.
@ApocWorkshop
@ApocWorkshop Ай бұрын
Years*
@ArhainHainar
@ArhainHainar Ай бұрын
This all ties in with the fact that gw stopped selling super glue
@BittermanAndy
@BittermanAndy Ай бұрын
GW superglue was complete rubbish anyway.
@hankwest5662
@hankwest5662 Ай бұрын
GW sold super glue? They still sell plastic glue. Never seen citadel super glue though
@Daemonforge666
@Daemonforge666 Ай бұрын
BUT they sell Metal minis and resin minis, which are not forgeworld models.
@guleri
@guleri Ай бұрын
@@hankwest5662 It was a thing, came in really small tubes and was a lot "harder" and more expensive to use than other brands.
@graefx
@graefx Ай бұрын
FW is from when GW was a hobbiest company run by fans. It was meant for people that wanted that next hobby challenge. Now GW is ultimately run by bean counters and not by people who just love the play. FW for its challenge and unique space doesnt fit into that new model of churn and max profits. And center piece models have now moved into the realm of how can we squeeze the most money out of people. I miss it was just about toy soldiers and just wanting to make cool stuff. We've come a long way from when White Dwarf had scratch build tutorials.
@poshboy4749
@poshboy4749 Ай бұрын
Ahh I see forge world kits weren't badly made, full of cracks, bubbles, and warped to hell - they are a challenge for experts.
@calebbarnhouse496
@calebbarnhouse496 Ай бұрын
Forge world may have had a point a long time ago, but the fact is forge world hasn't had a point, it's even more overpriced and uses some of the lowest quality materials, and lowest quality production care, forgeworld is just bad
@imthelizardking
@imthelizardking Ай бұрын
maybe people just don't want to pay 300% more for models that come out of the package broken?
@bdog6160
@bdog6160 Ай бұрын
Lol when GW was run by hobbyists it nearly failed, now we have a functional business able to supply our plastic crack addiction and yet we complain still
@calebbarnhouse496
@calebbarnhouse496 Ай бұрын
@@bdog6160 almost like reasonable people don't suck dick for companies that price gouge them
@kristianjensen5877
@kristianjensen5877 Ай бұрын
Fun fact, some err... reproduction sites still offer OOP Forgeworld kits and kits that are currently out of stock on the GW webshop, essentially making them a better a Forgeworld than current Forgeworld. An uhh... enthusiast entrepreneur having a better "Made to Order" service than GW, a triple-digit multi-million corporation, is just really, really sad.
@Notorious_G.O.O.S.E
@Notorious_G.O.O.S.E Ай бұрын
Oh no who would do such a thing, what are these sites so I can best avoid them
@thanksskeletor4812
@thanksskeletor4812 Ай бұрын
@@Notorious_G.O.O.S.Enice try James, I will never betray my Chang
@rafindeed
@rafindeed Ай бұрын
@@thanksskeletor4812 I made i joke once in my circle that my seller already named his kids after me because i spend so much in his store.
@jamesreed2888
@jamesreed2888 Ай бұрын
​@@thanksskeletor4812I get why people are hush hush about these sites so Mr workshop doesn't send a cease and desist, but how are people supposed to find out about these deals?
@WardenOfTerra
@WardenOfTerra 15 күн бұрын
Yeah, and enjoy acquiring cancer from the toxic industrial resin that they use. Play a VERY stupid game, and receive a very horrible prize.
@DJJohnnyFi
@DJJohnnyFi Ай бұрын
Gargantuan Squiggoth survived. I hope that means it continues its such an iconic model for the ork range. Sadly though all the other ork FW stuff is gone! :(
@cecilsmith2061
@cecilsmith2061 Ай бұрын
AW WHAT! I MISSED OUT ON THE CHINORK WARKOPTA YEARS AGO, BUT NOW I'LL MISS OUT ON THE MEKA/MEGA DREADS TOO!?!
@100acatfishandwillbreakyou2
@100acatfishandwillbreakyou2 Ай бұрын
Not for long
@khalebrobertson9907
@khalebrobertson9907 Ай бұрын
​@@cecilsmith2061 alas, yes. They've gotten rid of all but the biggoth squiggoth
@ep1phany62
@ep1phany62 Ай бұрын
I remember ForgeWorld first turning up in the Citadel Journal. GW has slowly lost its soul.
@fmvilla29
@fmvilla29 Ай бұрын
Yes, GW losing their soul seemed slow, but it feels like it all hit at once. We saw it coming, and BAM they've lost it all at once.
@cabe_bedlam
@cabe_bedlam Ай бұрын
The weird internal politics and "companies within companies" keeps me constantly surprised they can ever get anything done and still make any money.
@ba_commander
@ba_commander Ай бұрын
I was spending about £200-300 a year on forgeworld before the legends changes... now I'm spending nothing.
@darkhighwayman1757
@darkhighwayman1757 Ай бұрын
I bought sanguinious and I'll probably not get anything else.
@RobbieB2606
@RobbieB2606 Ай бұрын
If you follow gaming too, it’s been interesting watching both GW and Microsoft Xbox destroy so much goodwill recently for seemingly no reason at all. Corporate greed and ‘cost saving’ gone mad
@Mr_Waffle.
@Mr_Waffle. Ай бұрын
Won’t someone please think of the shareholders 😢😢😢😢 /s
@WardenOfTerra
@WardenOfTerra 15 күн бұрын
For no reason? It's called; corruption through capitalism.
@Irokenics
@Irokenics Ай бұрын
Elysian Drop Troopers being dropped was the day forge world died for me
@klaykid117
@klaykid117 Ай бұрын
They truly lived up to their name. They were dropped
@Irokenics
@Irokenics Ай бұрын
@@klaykid117 I'm dead 😂
@rustyshaklford9557
@rustyshaklford9557 27 күн бұрын
I'm sure STL scans are out there somewhere.
@rickyburtrand7818
@rickyburtrand7818 Ай бұрын
They don't even want to support 2 - 6 year old plastic AOS models. Think you've called this right and Forge World is going the same way into Legends where models go to die. I think there will be a point somewhere down the road where they say a model has a plastic kit or it doesn't get made any more other than maybe titans.
@jamesstewart7784
@jamesstewart7784 Ай бұрын
"you can still use FW in your games" - assuming your playing at games workshop and they allow you. I've been to a few stores that refuse forge world models to be played because "we can't sell them and they're not in the proper rules"
@ens.8365
@ens.8365 Ай бұрын
My mother recently passed and specifically left me a little coin to treat myself since we had no money growing up. Im fortunate to finally get a bunch of fw but now will never get to use them much. Horrible timing with no telegraphs on whats stayiny or going
@towelpartypanic
@towelpartypanic Ай бұрын
Im sorry for your loss
@sympylpyq634
@sympylpyq634 Ай бұрын
One thing that annoys me about forgeworld stuff going away is that... not all of it was actually weird, strange, or super specialist, and lots of forgeworld stuff actually filled really useful, cool niches in the armies that they're a part of. For example, I play Eldar - and while there are tonnes of things which very much fit into that "big cool weird centrepiece model that you only own to show off", like their titans and the really big forgeworld tanks, two units stick out to me as just a normal part of the day to day Eldar roster - The Hornet and the Shadow Spectres. The Hornet is just a fast, light tank that fills a niche between the Falcon chassis tanks and the Jetbikes/Vyper, and the shadow spectres are no more niche or weird of a concept than, say, Warp Spiders or Swooping Hawks, and fill some important niches in the army quite regularly. I bring my own Hornet to games regularly, and it doesn't feel off or weird - it just feels like an ordinary and honestly very fluffy and lore-friendly part of the Eldar range that has the curse of being cast in resin for some reason. There are tonnes of other factions which have important holes of their roster plugged by Forgeworld - for example, see everything in Custodes. It would be a shame to remove these kinds of units for the sin of being made of the same material as titans and weird tanks nobody buys.
@davidfeline5850
@davidfeline5850 Ай бұрын
Have a pair of Hornets and a pair of Lynxes. Both are just great fun to use. Really worried none of them will be available after our Codex drops...
@TheMichaelb44
@TheMichaelb44 Ай бұрын
I will be cautiously optimistic as I was confused as to why they didn't make the arvus lighter in plastic when they made the smaller legio imperiallis in plastic
@Deadjim17
@Deadjim17 Ай бұрын
Been thinking it myself for the last year or two. No major releases, other than specialist games stuff and just constant churn of things slowly going out of stock to no longer for sale. The dropping of the DKoK Vanquisher and Demolisher tanks and going out of production is what prompted me to start my DKoK army and grab a few of those tanks before I never could again as they'd always been a dream army.
@acefromspace5843
@acefromspace5843 Ай бұрын
Some of the best models are FW resin. Tau is an example that is now being hit with the changes with the Riptide variants going to Legends 😢
@AndrewMcColl
@AndrewMcColl Ай бұрын
And yet FW resin almost always seemed subpar to the resin you got from other companies. As for the models, the ones that appeared in Imperial Armour never seemed to get the same amount of balance as those in the main 40k books (go go corporate silos!), so it's not surprising that the resin battlesuits were always more popular. I don't recall anyone ever raving about the stories behind them, just that they were 'better' than the usual variants.
@NeumaghAnon
@NeumaghAnon Ай бұрын
Warhammer is just becoming something that isn’t for me anymore
@Fufu0117
@Fufu0117 Ай бұрын
I'll buy your models
@ciaranmcgrath3135
@ciaranmcgrath3135 Ай бұрын
Days going to Warhammer World to get the special bits was the biggest pleasure.
@MortenWill
@MortenWill Ай бұрын
Thank you for informing me that i have the option of, when asked how I carry transport my minis, to simply answer "Beans!"
@benjaminstorace6699
@benjaminstorace6699 Ай бұрын
Jordan Sorcery's videos on the history of Games Workshop, along with the numerous interviews with Key people who either have or still do work for GW, seem to indicate to me that many subdivisions under the GW moniker is just how they've always operated. AS such I'd be unsurprised that the same goes for ForgeWorld.
@Flight_of_Icarus
@Flight_of_Icarus Ай бұрын
I wouldn't be surprised if all specialist 40k models are going to be gone in 5 years, even Titans and Aircraft
@mcpw2004
@mcpw2004 Ай бұрын
My personal biggest hope is that we’ll see at least some of the popular kits transferred into plastic, because plastic is just so much more enjoyable to work with compared to resin for me
@slackeratlarge575
@slackeratlarge575 Ай бұрын
Forge world is on life support.slowly being removed from games. Just waiting on GW to inform next of kin and pull the plug.
@AK-tl2nm
@AK-tl2nm Ай бұрын
The video is primarily focused on selection opposed to nature or the products. It’s worth considering how hand made resin models are very long in the tooth now. In a time when CAD allows for impossibly detailed kits that actually fit together the detail appeal of hand made resin simple isn’t there. We’ve also seen a significant number of these kits remastered in plastic including the malcador. While I am sad to see Forgeworld as a testbed go, the resin models themselves are of little appeal these days.
@calebbarnhouse496
@calebbarnhouse496 Ай бұрын
The resin models could still have a niche, low run numbers that exist primarily to fill out the universe, things like civilian vehicles, civilians, and similar stiff, but only if they had high quality resin and casted it correctly, rather then selling the lowest quality product as if it was made of gold by a master sculpture by hand
@BitzboxTV
@BitzboxTV Ай бұрын
I miss what Forgeworld used to be. Some of their terrain pieces from the early days were so nice.
@michaelhowell2326
@michaelhowell2326 Ай бұрын
I was alwaya against pirate China copies, but I can't afford thousands of dollars for titans and was forced into them. You can't tell the difference at all.
@91Caesar
@91Caesar Ай бұрын
There is a distinction to be made between former FW kits that were produced with use in 40k/WFB/AOS in mind and the FW kits that are used in the more specialist games. GW has basically split into two distinct studios, a 'Main' studio handling 40k and AOS, and a 'Specialist' studio handling everything else. Forge World basically became the specialist studio, and they don't want the content from either studios cross-contaminating for accounting reasons. GW wants to know that when you buy a Contemptor Dreadnought you're using it for HH and not 40k, so they can assign the sale to the Specialist studio and more accurately gauge how well HH is going. This is why Beastmen are leaving AOS. They don't want to have a range that straddles both the Main studio and the Specialist studio. So the games like MESBG, The Old World, Necromunda etc etc are safe (provided they continue to sell enough to justify their existence), where as the old FW models that existed as supplementary models for 40k are on the chopping block, unless they are relevant to the HH (which most aren't).
@onlyMetalisMusic
@onlyMetalisMusic Ай бұрын
Sad but probably true...
@iannordin5250
@iannordin5250 Ай бұрын
It's such a shame because IMO forgeworld had the best aesthetic interpretations for each faction, even if their quality was never great.
@metasuperfamily
@metasuperfamily Ай бұрын
Moving many of the cool and good Tau models to legacy is not cool.
@mogwaiman6048
@mogwaiman6048 Ай бұрын
Forge World isn't dead. They make all of the resin miniatures for the specilaist design studio games.
@imperialdoctor
@imperialdoctor Ай бұрын
Custodes are crapping themselves right now.
@Cruxxy21
@Cruxxy21 Ай бұрын
I love the imperial fliers, maybe they can get a redeployment into imperial agents…
@jeffreysort7219
@jeffreysort7219 Ай бұрын
Don’t worry, they’re still jacking up FW prices though.
@keggotht9323
@keggotht9323 Ай бұрын
Just wanted to say I love your outro music, I often wind the video back a bit for a second listen
@TrilainaBloodwind
@TrilainaBloodwind Ай бұрын
The vulture was truly one of the vehicles that not just got me into the Guard. But into 40k as a whole. Im glad I got mine, but I also want a Stormblade, regardless of its future in full 40k :(
@Rottenflieger.
@Rottenflieger. Ай бұрын
I figure worst case scenario fir the stormblade is it can be proxied as another variant. Lorewise it often gets used interchangeably with shadowswords as a titan hunter.
@TheMinidow
@TheMinidow Ай бұрын
The solar auxiliary big box had a "not quite" macharius in it, most of the plastic kit is done, they just need a turret sprue.
@SvenTheSveed
@SvenTheSveed Ай бұрын
I heard is FW to come back as a 3d printer file store
@noprobllama9747
@noprobllama9747 Ай бұрын
I feel bad for Tony Cottrell. He built up forgeworld I believe, to be cancelled or pushed aside is disrespectful.
@crisismethodactor
@crisismethodactor Ай бұрын
He’s in charge of Specialist Design Studio, he’ll be fine.
@killerkriegsman85
@killerkriegsman85 Ай бұрын
This worries me Krieg/ Titans/ imperial armour feel under threat from disappearing from resin glad I got mine while it was still forgeworld
@beanman853
@beanman853 Ай бұрын
it feels like titans aren't getting removed but the stuff which you could use in 2k 40k are
@MalfunctioningAndroid
@MalfunctioningAndroid Ай бұрын
Thankfully they all survive as recasts with infinitely better quality and lower price. :)
@jeffers1985
@jeffers1985 Ай бұрын
​@@MalfunctioningAndroidtotally agree, 3 years of mad price increase on resin killed FW, think one year was 20% uplift. Killed my hope on a falchion
@voidimperatrix406
@voidimperatrix406 Ай бұрын
Guess I gotta get myself that macharius Vulcan I’ve always wanted
@TheJuggler444
@TheJuggler444 Ай бұрын
I'm not sad to see it go, Heresy 2.0 moving so much from FW resin to plastic was what kept me in the hobby and allowed me to get into heresy as 9th ed 40k pushed me away quick. Having the bulk of the army be more affordable and easier to build or convert has been huge. FW hasn't really had an exact purpose for a while now. I can see where the Imperial Armor books/campaigns of old would have been a fun time in the hobby offering more niche units, models, etc but since they've moved away from that kind of thing for quite some time it doesn't make sense to keep the two separate anymore. Incorporating it into the same ecosystem and slapping the "expert resin kit" label on it was the most logical move. I dont think everything "needs" to be moved to plastic...the HH faction characters, units and upgrades in resin are fine, same goes for the super heavies, etc. Now if we can get breachers, recons, destroyers, etc in plastic to round out the infantry that'd be great...
@hannahleith52
@hannahleith52 Ай бұрын
The closure of Forge World was inevitable once they started releasing the base game of Horus Heresy in plastic. No matter how much better resin is than plastic in general the main problem Forge World has had since day dot is the QC issues that they still can't fix. And think about it if the ones they sell as bad as they might be are still the 'acceptable' ones how many in each run of a mould are so irreparably bad to be completely useless, better to change to plastic yeah it might cost them a few hundred thousand quid in tooling per mould but it will have a much lower wastage rate and better profit margins as time goes on.
@calebbarnhouse496
@calebbarnhouse496 Ай бұрын
It was inevitable long ago, you can bet your ass the reason forgeworld sucks so much now is GW wanted to milk them for every penny before they killed them, plastic is just a better material for everything except ultra low production runs, which basically means production runs that make then lowest returns because of the higher cost to produce, and the cost to pay the sculpture are spread out onto much fewer scales, so then the company ads and additional tax to customers to pay for the luxury of buying there cooler products available, (if they actually worked ad advertised)
@simonmiller5351
@simonmiller5351 Ай бұрын
i am in the process looking at my FW ork kits and looking at ways to kitbash them into codex units, eg grot tanks into killerkans, big trakks into trukks.
@joshwoodferd5737
@joshwoodferd5737 Ай бұрын
It is sad to see the decline of the place that a lot of really cool models came from, but the only interaction i'd ever had with them was ordering a model, getting it horribly warped with bubbles and having to contact customer support, repeat 3 times in a row til i got a kit that wasn't totally bricked in some fashion. Couldn't even use parts from the other kits, because they were all the same parts that were screwed up.
@jayko-mayko2285
@jayko-mayko2285 28 күн бұрын
I got into Warhammer around 2022 and was a little confused by what Forge World was but it didn't take much to figure it out as high-end luxury version of Warhammer. Shortly after, I couldn't find the website anymore and was even more confused. I think there should be a luxury version for those who are really into a specific faction or limited edition versions that make it a little more special. *shrugs*
@evo5055
@evo5055 Ай бұрын
I'm still fielding and building red scorpions and minotaurs legions. I've had to source puldron chapter icons from 3rd party sources though since FW dropped the two chapters.
@s0renK
@s0renK Ай бұрын
GW lost it when they discontinued the battery powered styrofoam cutter.
@lachief237
@lachief237 Ай бұрын
FW was weirdly ‘mainstream’ in Warhammer over recent years. Back in the day it was all esoteric weird bits intended for narrative games and not receiving balance support. It was actively hard to get hold of outside the UK. With the internet it became widely available and a lot of enthusiasts seemed to hold it to the same standards as the core ranges (which isn’t something the sales could justify in an already bloated roster). I’m not convinced it should ever have been part of the ‘tournament legal’ scene. Short-run specialist games or narrative special items was a niche that made some sense.
@lMrJackl
@lMrJackl Ай бұрын
I'm glad fw is being merged back in. I think the reason fw products aren't popular is the cost and difficulty of assembly. Gw seem to be gradually redoing fw stuff into plastic, and if they start updating the rules to those models and including them in codexs, then maybe people will start buying and playing with them more.
@goldleaf9909
@goldleaf9909 Ай бұрын
I have been trying to get as much fw stuff I can but most of the stuff has been oos for a while and none of it has been put in legends yet. (Looking to grab all a the guard tanks I don’t have)
@darrenbarlow1826
@darrenbarlow1826 Ай бұрын
Durkhari Tantalus in plastic pls, I don't fancy trying to put that together in forgeworld resin
@user-qi1jc1yn3o
@user-qi1jc1yn3o Ай бұрын
I liked the resin miniatures more than the plastic ones that GW now expect the same price for the resin ones were. They were the best Blood Bowl miniatures and I was hoping to get myself the Troll Hag in resin as well…. How I love it when GW makes my decisions for me 😟
@anthonywaggett9317
@anthonywaggett9317 Ай бұрын
Forge World legacy will always exist for one reason - Titans. But I see your point, it does make sense that the more niche products are produced in resin, they can basically be made to order, or in this day and age they replace what Forge World produced with STL's (although Titans will always be resin kits). This makes commercial sense as basically GW would be getting money for nothing (I want my MTV), no production cost, no warehousing cost and no shipping cost but they still sell the basic plastic kit and you print the extras.
@CaptainChazz
@CaptainChazz Ай бұрын
As a Custodes player I am hoping we get a big plastic refresh soon probably as part of the HH range
@vortex594
@vortex594 Ай бұрын
It's sad. My Tau stuff managed to dodge Legends this edition, but this might be the last edition it survives. But because this edition is so damn bad, I'm skipping it, which means I'm not even getting this likely last chance to actually play with half of my army...
@johncolvin2754
@johncolvin2754 Ай бұрын
For years I thought forge world was completely separate fan run company, like 15 or twenty years since rouge trader , it added so much intrigue and depth whichnus life for ganers
@timmcgrath8742
@timmcgrath8742 Ай бұрын
For those wanting to transport large figures in large plastic boxes, go to your nearest supermarket and buy Velcro strips for next to nothing (They can normally be found with the needles/thread and other dressmaking supplies.) Superglue the hook side to the bottom of your box and the opposing loop side to the bottom of your models. The loop strip cut into short lengths also doubles as cushioning to the base of your models, so they don't clatter as much against table tops.
@captainparty
@captainparty Ай бұрын
Specialist Games is Forge World. It’s a huge part of the company.
@jamesbrunton9507
@jamesbrunton9507 Ай бұрын
Pretty sure the description used to say "Forge-World Resin" which I presumed was to differentiate from "Citadel Finecast Resin". Checked a few products and that wording is gone now.
@karlff7
@karlff7 Ай бұрын
I'm now genuinely concerned for rules support being dropped for FW resin Necromunda characters and Blood Bowl star players 😥
@kylethomas7473
@kylethomas7473 Ай бұрын
I have noticed a lot of the Forge World models go out of stock really quickly
@VIPOdyssey176
@VIPOdyssey176 Ай бұрын
I remember going in to forge world (living in Nottingham means dropping in was easy as WW is my LGS) as an 11 year old and the pewter eldar harlequins weren’t on the shelf and the geezer behind the counter was like “oh give us an hour we’ll whip up a batch for you” and gave me a free ticket to the museum whilst I waited. 45 mins later I had literally brand new made for me 16 harlequins and I was chuffed. That’s how I’ll always remember forge world, the people who were the ones you’d go to for specialist and if it wasn’t there they’d make it
@timmcgrath8742
@timmcgrath8742 Ай бұрын
I see a Birthday Massacre poster! I saw them live a few years ago in Scotland. Brilliant band. Absolutely love the song 'Red stars'.
@MichealIkruhara
@MichealIkruhara Ай бұрын
I think you have the causality backwards; they're not discontinuing kits because they're not interested in supporting the rules, they're dropping rules for models they're not interested in producing. The ROI for resin is always lower than plastic, and the large resin models like tanks and titans don't sell well so their ROI is worse. It doesnt make business sense to produce them. I feel that Forgeworld was always a labor of love for the staff that ran it, like the old metal guard regiment minis, but they're pivoting away from that as a company. I wish more of those kits would be remade in Plastic but logistically theres too many to remake them all, and some of them are simply too niche to be worth the investment of remaking and stocking them. I just hope GW keeps doing MTO for old forgeworld kits like they did earlier this year.
@guleri
@guleri Ай бұрын
I think that Forgeworld as a unique thing went away when the website was integrated into the regular Warhammer range. And as more and more of the former resin kits gets made into plastic, Forgeworld will keep going into the background until GW finally decides to remove it ompletely. However, I do think that there is still a market for some of the resin miniaures, so hopefully whey will not stop making them as there aree some big models that I don't think ever will come in plastic.
@pads-zr9ln
@pads-zr9ln Ай бұрын
The mecharius is now a plastic kit so it's safe ISH for now, they need to keep on tip of the rules though, legends is over coated
@eriadorranger2196
@eriadorranger2196 Ай бұрын
If they decide to repackage all the excess ForgeWorld models and stock them alongside the normal plastic plastic ones with nothing denoting resin vs plastic, I’m gonna be real upset when I accidentally get a bad resin model
@christopherplummer1299
@christopherplummer1299 Ай бұрын
FW offered some unique units and subgroups for use in 40k. It is sad my krieg have been changed so much from their imperial armour days. And my Red Scorpions have lost any uniqueness they had from the other space marine chapters.
@akumaking1
@akumaking1 Ай бұрын
It’s simple. Embrace 3D printing. By this point 3D prints can rival the “quality” of GW products.
@Bobamelius
@Bobamelius Ай бұрын
Far exceed, in many cases.
@meeszijlstra5426
@meeszijlstra5426 Ай бұрын
Damn, Warmag doesn't seem to ship outside the UK. Or at least not to the Netherlands where I live. I've had the magnetic sheets transport solution in mind for a while now, just never found a place that sells them for a good price. I'll have to hope the product takes off and can be sold internationally in the future too.
@RequiemWraith
@RequiemWraith Ай бұрын
Already missed out on getting a Dimachaeron and a Malenthrope, guess I need to pull my finger out and get the Tyranid ones I want!
@foreverfornever1124
@foreverfornever1124 Ай бұрын
From what Im seeing, especially with the OW releases, GW restructured FW as the hub for kits for majority classic games(HH and Old World) and their more niche games like Middle Earth and Necromunda. And of course the colossal kits that continously sell like Titans. When the Necron range had some of its units removed I knew they were only going to be removng less popular selling kits and the remaining were the ones folks still buy. This has and will continue with all of the 40k factions until the end of 10th ed. The Guard alone is a good chunk of the range with mostly Krieg kits who are still looking to be plastic for the rumored Guard codex release. Iv always seen Legends almost like a queue system for GW. They either retire a unit or keep them for a later time until it can be reintergrated back into a game with a refresh. Pretty much how the Ork warboss in mega armor and the atillian rough riders got refreshes and returned. Once 10th ed has finished its slimming down of the 40k model range i think 11th ed will see the transition of the remaining non-colossal FW 40k models into plastics which will be awesome for some factions like Custodes and chaos
@WardenOfTerra
@WardenOfTerra Ай бұрын
I just hope that GW creates them in plastic. I don't want Titan's or flyers to disappear. The sense of awe that the FW models brought in the old campaign books is timeless. 'The Taros Campaign' book is amazing. Far too much emphasis is being put on competitive play nowadays, so it's sapped the love out of the hobby for a lot of people. GW needs to get Tony Cottrell back.
@ruslanhoncharenko2179
@ruslanhoncharenko2179 Ай бұрын
I think FW will continue to exist by making those big characters/monsters/vehicles. Anything else gonna be relegated to plastic, I hope some removed stuff would eventually make a comeback.
@killroy1117
@killroy1117 Ай бұрын
British people saying “beta” sounds like Lois Griffin saying “Peta”
@Orannis01
@Orannis01 Ай бұрын
I think the legacy of FW was that the resin was expensive compared to GW plastic 20 years ago, and the rules for the models were often unbalanced. The newer FW stuff ended up being cheaper than GW plastic kits and the rules were always overpointed for what you got on tabletop, like GW didn't want to support them.
@matthewbroad2900
@matthewbroad2900 Ай бұрын
it might not be all doom and gloom. The best stuff might make it to plastic. The Malcador has just come out in plastic for example.
@waynegoddard4065
@waynegoddard4065 27 күн бұрын
I main grippe is when I bought Curze he didn't come with helmet option. Gutted.
@johncolvin2754
@johncolvin2754 Ай бұрын
For years I thought forge world was completely separate fan run company, like 15 or twenty years since rouge trader
@mistformsquirrel
@mistformsquirrel Ай бұрын
The weird thing for me is: I don't necessarily think I'll miss the actual physical models? I will however desperately miss some of the data sheets. Since coming back to 40k, I've always told myself that once my army is up to 2000 pts and table ready, I'm going to scratch build some sort of massive flying boat and use that as a Marauder Destroyer. And yeah I can still do that but... if it's legends by the time I get to it... I dunno. I would hope and pray that at least the Custodes stuff gets shifted to plastic for the most part. Without resin their range is almost comedically small.
@TEPMARMY
@TEPMARMY Ай бұрын
If you worried about legends don’t be. Unless your a competitive player legends is fine for casual, sometimes they’re a few keyword issues but if you reasonable enough you and your opponents can just clarify it before a game
@sssssrgssssss9
@sssssrgssssss9 26 күн бұрын
New people coming in will immediately leave when they see a price tag on FW kits
@SWIFTO_SCYTHE
@SWIFTO_SCYTHE Ай бұрын
Tyranid Hierophant, Harridan, Hierodules Scythe and Barbed did survived... but not Dimacheron, Malanthorpe, Stonecrusher, Mieotic Spores, Winged Rippers...
@40KWill
@40KWill Ай бұрын
A soon as you see limited orders on your model, sell it unless it's just a hobby project
@TEPMARMY
@TEPMARMY Ай бұрын
Feel like you missed an opportunity to call the video “Forgeworld is dead, long live Forgeworld.”
@DawnstealerGaming
@DawnstealerGaming Ай бұрын
Looks like my hierophant just became a bit more rare
@DetectiveLance
@DetectiveLance Ай бұрын
Reeeeaaally glad I got that Blood Bowl werewolf ahead of time now
@supervillainJ
@supervillainJ Ай бұрын
Phasing out resin because of its cost and the taxes on making it
@kristianjensen5877
@kristianjensen5877 Ай бұрын
With the current quality of resin 3D prints, Forgeworld/GW could probably switch to on-demand 3D printed resin models in a month if they so desired. They'd basically be able to immediately fix their current logistical challenges of 50% of their resin model backlog being out of stock, reduce production costs for their specialist model range, completely cut out the need for warehouse storage space for their entire resin backlog and expedite new designs being released for customers to buy as they'd skip the entire tooling process for their resin casting machinery. That's be the smart business decision but they're now stuck in a sunk cost fallacy operating outdated resin casting machinery.
@liambridgeman4529
@liambridgeman4529 Ай бұрын
Actually at warhammer world the forge world and normal GW stuff and in the same area it’s just faction by faction , at least since October this has been
@AMegaByteYT
@AMegaByteYT Ай бұрын
I do wonder what non lamens stuff is affecting all of this; plastic production prices and tax and future productions. Is it too optimistic to hope that this is a long drawn out method of just making more niche plastic kits?
@Daemonforge666
@Daemonforge666 Ай бұрын
received some newer old world resins in ForgeWorld branded boxes, seeing this legacy keep popping up FW was never in a codex, always weird rules put out by ForgeWorld so i don't get the hurt when its not in a codex. Forgeworld was in the day the place to be if you wanted to add some spice to your army, or wanted something nice as a centre piece item for your army, (yes in the day had to ask permission to use with friends etc)
@StigPrice
@StigPrice Ай бұрын
I got 2 grav tanks and 2 venetari units. If they move those to legends I'll cry.
@hobblesofkarth3943
@hobblesofkarth3943 Ай бұрын
I need more titans kirioth.
@seanuh60
@seanuh60 Ай бұрын
Calm down. They are clearly making nearly everything from forge world in plastic. If something is obscure enough it will probably leave. But a macharius is probably coming. Who would have predicted the solar tanks. Most are redundant kits the others were low sellers I believe. In time they will make everything.
@joshuacrosby4042
@joshuacrosby4042 Ай бұрын
I bought the Minotaur this year. Zero regrets
@cirno9349
@cirno9349 Ай бұрын
The resin is dead! Long live the resin
@colonelturmeric558
@colonelturmeric558 Ай бұрын
Im not massively sad about it going, it was extremely expensive and often things weren’t in stock, and with my recent boycott of first hand purchases from gw and retailers i am even less interested. BUT, i am sad to think that many units will be going to the warp in favour of the , in my opinion, soulless new direction of 40k. I also feel bad for people who DO like FW models, and feel their pain as i did when the masters of the chapter and the old space marine commander disappeared from reality. If fw had been cheaper, i might have been tempted once upon a time to grab some HH knights cenobium and inner circle companions to use in 40k
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