Forget about Applying for Jobs on LinkedIn or Indeed and Do This Instead

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KISSS Career Coaching

KISSS Career Coaching

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@TagPlugs
@TagPlugs Жыл бұрын
In short, just apply on their website directly.
@levidestin6783
@levidestin6783 Жыл бұрын
That doesn’t work either, it still says processing after 3 months
@emregazi4615
@emregazi4615 Жыл бұрын
Good summary
@kizitohemanmwenelwata8159
@kizitohemanmwenelwata8159 Жыл бұрын
some companies are not publishing their jobs opps on their career page!
@kissscareercoaching
@kissscareercoaching Жыл бұрын
True
@talltalllady
@talltalllady Жыл бұрын
@@levidestin6783 So what can you do?
@kristendrayton
@kristendrayton 10 ай бұрын
I was gonna give up on Indeed, but I decided to give it one more try. I submitted my resume for an educator position on Indeed last Monday, got a call back on Tuesday, I interviewed on Thursday, and got hired on the spot.
@kissscareercoaching
@kissscareercoaching 10 ай бұрын
Congratulations!
@mberrynunez
@mberrynunez 9 ай бұрын
Congratulations! 🎉Being persistent definitely pays off. 😅
@mistyrosy3973
@mistyrosy3973 8 ай бұрын
Congratulations!
@kme3894
@kme3894 7 ай бұрын
being hired on the spot is a red flag
@NewswithAI53
@NewswithAI53 6 ай бұрын
This is hopeful
@Wesjapa100
@Wesjapa100 Жыл бұрын
The problem with applying through the company's career page is having to fill in ALL the info, so doing this for each and every job we apply for is really time-consuming and above all, really annoying. 🙄
@kissscareercoaching
@kissscareercoaching Жыл бұрын
True. One reason companies want you to fill in all the info is to see how serious you are about your intentions with them. The upside is that the info you provide goes directly to the company.
@Wesjapa100
@Wesjapa100 Жыл бұрын
@@kissscareercoaching True.
@arineems6059
@arineems6059 Жыл бұрын
And even if you apply through the company's website and fill out all the info you're required to, 9 out of 10 times you still won't be called for an interview. Most likely just an auto-generated email acknowledging they got your application and nothing more. That's it. At least I've had more interviews via LinkedIn compared to applying via the company's official website.
@kissscareercoaching
@kissscareercoaching Жыл бұрын
@@arineems6059 with an acknowledgement email at least you know the company received your application. Good to see that you have had success with LinkedIn.
@brianegendorf2023
@brianegendorf2023 Жыл бұрын
I DO find it annoying to fill out all of the info...but I also feel dumb doing it because I feel like in the time I can fill out one job board, i can find the same job on other sites where you can quick apply. The truth is, what he is saying might be true, but applying directly to the company doesn't change your competition pool. If 1,000 people apply for the job, you are competing against them regardless of which site you apply on. I apply to an average 30 jobs a week per site. And do maybe 4 interviews a week. MOST of the time that works for me for finding a job or contract. But I admit, right now I am having a problem cause I am trying to get to the next level of pay, and so far, it isn't working out. Soon, I'm gonna have to give in and start applying to jobs at my previous salary. Which I don't really want to do.
@entrepreneursuccesssecrets2547
@entrepreneursuccesssecrets2547 Жыл бұрын
This tip is gold. Why go through a middle man, when you can go right to the source.
@kissscareercoaching
@kissscareercoaching Жыл бұрын
Exactly!
@abubakrrafique1302
@abubakrrafique1302 9 ай бұрын
Linkedin is not the middle man. Companies use it to attract talent. They pay high amount of money. You need to understand that 1000s of people apply and very few are shortlisted and only one is offered.
@Darth_Bateman
@Darth_Bateman 5 ай бұрын
@@abubakrrafique1302 Hi, I'm a potential employee: WE DON'T FUCKING CARE.
@AllAboutPurple
@AllAboutPurple Ай бұрын
Not all companies are hiring through their website. These tips will not work on most jobs today. Recruiters exist for those jobs. The main tip here is you gotta call someone or someone has to find you, which is where LinkedIn comes in. His last example, he applied on both Linkedin & the company website, but still had to call them. My last 3 jobs I either reached out to a recruiter or someone in the company saw my profile & reached out. I even reached out to 2 people in my previous company before applying, some jobs are contracted to recruiting companies & you gotta figure out which one lol
@AllAboutPurple
@AllAboutPurple Ай бұрын
Not all companies are hiring through their website. These tips will not work on most jobs today. Recruiters exist for those jobs. The main tip here is you gotta call someone or someone has to find you, which is where LinkedIn comes in. His last example, he applied on both Linkedin & the company website, but still had to call them. My last 3 jobs I either reached out to a recruiter or someone in the company saw my profile & reached out. I even reached out to 2 people in my previous company before applying, some jobs are contracted to recruiting companies & you gotta figure out which one lol
@chadwickerman
@chadwickerman 9 ай бұрын
Few are actually hiring. They are dangling the hopes of getting a good job to collect resumes and harvest personal information from their applicants.
@robd7934
@robd7934 4 ай бұрын
Ghost jobs! Shit should be made illegal
@dvd_12337
@dvd_12337 2 ай бұрын
I do wonder why I found scammers on LinkedIn as head hunters and then sounds scammy… why did they do this interview and take my resume?
@kevinstreeter6943
@kevinstreeter6943 Жыл бұрын
Finding a job should not be this hard. I never want to hear about a labor shortage from employers.
@kissscareercoaching
@kissscareercoaching Жыл бұрын
I agree, but we have to operate within this crazy reality.
@skyblazeeterno
@skyblazeeterno Жыл бұрын
Even when the employment situation has been better for candidates,employers have always moaned
@normbograham
@normbograham 8 ай бұрын
one major employer, just had it's L1 and H1B program expanded. They are not looking for someone whom can walk away.
@shawnbruce6934
@shawnbruce6934 5 ай бұрын
They are full of Shit.
@dylannaenzo9737
@dylannaenzo9737 5 ай бұрын
We have not had "full employment" in the USA since I first started looking for a professional job in 1975. You will know you have full employment when wages consistantly rise over 8 quarters.... hasn't happened in 50 years.
@moetocafe
@moetocafe Жыл бұрын
Whenever possible, always look for a direct contact with the employer. Do not give your personal details to third parties, like scammy job agencies, etc. Such agencies sometimes even post completely fake job ads, just so they can gather the personal details of people, who are seeking for a job.
@kissscareercoaching
@kissscareercoaching Жыл бұрын
Definitely agree!
@mauriciofreitas3384
@mauriciofreitas3384 Жыл бұрын
I have to ask, how does one look for a direct contact with the employer? Phone number? Email towards the employer and not the company? Pretty much, how?
@moetocafe
@moetocafe Жыл бұрын
@@mauriciofreitas3384 I mean, when you're on a job search website - they usually do have filters, when searching and you can request results only directly from employing organizations (i.e. exclude agencies).
@kissscareercoaching
@kissscareercoaching Жыл бұрын
@@mauriciofreitas3384 one strategy is to talk with the receptionist as they are often an excellent resource. I like to call the main company telephone number and say "I wonder if you could help me. I am preparing my application for the position of _____ in your company. I was wondering if you could tell me who I should address my cover letter to, so that I can personalize it. I promise not to contact them directly as I know they are busy." This almost always works. You will find out if the position is still accepting applications, and the name of the hiring manager, who you can then research on LinkedIn.
@clairem8482
@clairem8482 Жыл бұрын
Agreed! I cannot stand these 3rd party websites. In my experience going straight to the source, has given me better results in the end.
@gozimusable1
@gozimusable1 11 ай бұрын
You're saying everything I knew deep inside, but needed someone to validate out loud. Good job
@marcioaugusto392
@marcioaugusto392 Жыл бұрын
Some wise man to fullfill our direct ways. Thank you. I have got a job 3 days after this video... No more wasting time in those social medias. Only updating stats
@kissscareercoaching
@kissscareercoaching Жыл бұрын
Congratulations!
@weisspayne
@weisspayne Жыл бұрын
Very useful. I have submitted applications only to hear that the job was filled or no longer open. In addition, if there are any edits to the job posting, it resets the job posting. Let's say there is a Business Analyst job posted. 200 applications come in. The next week, the employer changes the title to Business Analyst II, all 200 applications are tossed out. I also am seeing among my experienced friends, they are not considered at all for jobs because they have too much experience. I have 20+ yrs of experience and time and again I am hearing "this is a junior role" even thought the listing says mid-level. But don't call it ageism! I liked the old days of pounding the pavement, walking around the city, handing out resumes. At least then you could look someone in the eye and get a feel for your chances. This is just a black, faceless box.
@kissscareercoaching
@kissscareercoaching Жыл бұрын
Great points. Sometimes companies hire for "junior roles" to avoid paying high salaries.
@charlessmith263
@charlessmith263 4 ай бұрын
I AM HAVING A VERY BAD DAY! 248 RESUMES SENT ON LINKEDIN - ALL 248 - REJECTED!
@LIVdaBrand
@LIVdaBrand 3 ай бұрын
All of it is gaslighting because they WANT YOUR DATA for money
@ArtisticMysticSoul
@ArtisticMysticSoul Жыл бұрын
This is a better option, but it doesn't usually work either. You just go into a database and never hear anything back. At least, that has been my experience. Calling is good, but only if it's a small company. The best way to get a job is having a connection, and that doesn't even always work.
@kissscareercoaching
@kissscareercoaching Жыл бұрын
Connections and networking are usually the most effective ways of getting a job.
@novadhd
@novadhd Жыл бұрын
Indeed and LInked have links to company webites to apply regardless
@grygaming5519
@grygaming5519 Жыл бұрын
@@kissscareercoaching Its also slimy because half the time you see people who are not qualified getting a job just because they know someone over a candidate whose more suited. Nepotism is awful in the job market.
@amunkhufu
@amunkhufu 10 ай бұрын
Connections and networking get you the job, but opposes the concept of fairness and meritocracy. I do not think this will ever change.
@SonjaJacobs-cf7mz
@SonjaJacobs-cf7mz 6 ай бұрын
Sounds like we a doomed if things don't change. The downside to the digital age.
@2081dwillis
@2081dwillis Жыл бұрын
Create an expanded version of your Resume just for yourself. Under each position that you have held, list bullets detailing the activities you performed and the goals you achieved. When you look an an ad for a position, note the skills/abilities that are listed first, and extract from your expanded Resume the 1 or 2 items that match the requirements of the position you are applying for. In your cover letter make sure you point out the most significant areas of your expertise that directly match the requirements of the position being applied for. Good luck in your search.
@kissscareercoaching
@kissscareercoaching Жыл бұрын
Good points, but I would skip the activities you performed and focus on your accomplishments.
@thebraggersKansasCityPop
@thebraggersKansasCityPop Жыл бұрын
no thanks
@kentschrader3900
@kentschrader3900 Жыл бұрын
I think that's a great strategy!
@theupwardspiral1580
@theupwardspiral1580 11 ай бұрын
I was going to do this same thing.
@virajvrooms
@virajvrooms 11 ай бұрын
That is superb info Bart. I have experienced this multiple times. This is a whole lot of steps to follow, filling lengthy forms and answering the questions, but then that is a necessary filter that companies apply to verify how serious a candidate is about joining them rather than blindly hitting the Easy Apply button.
@kissscareercoaching
@kissscareercoaching 11 ай бұрын
Thank you! Great comment.
@glenngallegos
@glenngallegos Жыл бұрын
Makes sense. I've seen postings in LinkedIn which "no longer exists" many times
@lasenoritajoyce
@lasenoritajoyce Жыл бұрын
This is what I'm actually doing when applying for jobs.
@CarlosFlores-cg1fq
@CarlosFlores-cg1fq Жыл бұрын
This video helped confirm what I doing without knowing I was doing it right, now I will deliberately focus on this way. Thanks coach.
@kissscareercoaching
@kissscareercoaching Жыл бұрын
Excellent! You're welcome!
@NottyGurlStyle
@NottyGurlStyle Жыл бұрын
There have been times where I started to do this and would see a job posted up on LinkedIn or Indeed (plus other job boards) and I would see a job I think i’m perfect for…I apply and hear nothing. So I would just double check the website and look to see if the post is there too and more cases it’s not. As being in my late 40s I hate how hard it is to find work. In the past you submit your resume and you get a human on the phone, or an response…Now you just put your resume out there to crickets and it’s frustrating.
@kissscareercoaching
@kissscareercoaching Жыл бұрын
Your experience is unfortunately quite common. If you have one, leveraging your network of contacts is still one of the best strategies.
@togowack
@togowack Жыл бұрын
I'm 40 and almost all my resumes got me a call from whoever was hiring... working in manufacturing might be one reason. In the past month sent 2-3 resumes visited 2 employers ignored one and one sent quite a nice job offer 2 weeks ago accepted.
@kissscareercoaching
@kissscareercoaching Жыл бұрын
@@togowack congratulations!
@NottyGurlStyle
@NottyGurlStyle Жыл бұрын
@@togowack wow congrats! It could be the industry too…I been working in Real Estate for 20 years and I hate it…I want to find an industry that’s more stable. Maybe I’ll have better luck looking in other industries that more people overlook.
@togowack
@togowack Жыл бұрын
@@NottyGurlStyleHi, it is no big deal for me to find work at all. I hunted for and got a gravy job. I can't understand why so many people went into fake jobs. Fake jobs suck all around. It looks like the schools have done this- deliberately. I am not happy about having to go back to work but I started 3 businesses and fell too much behind inflation for this year. Vowed I would never work for anyone else again.
@frnkbooth6871
@frnkbooth6871 Жыл бұрын
It’s much worse than you realize. The government tracks all this activity via HR reports. Depending on the size of the company, they are likely posting jobs due to government oversight which means they already have a candidate picked out. Which mean they don’t need you. Just need to show hiring activity and effort to the government. Want the job, better know someone and network in.
@kissscareercoaching
@kissscareercoaching Жыл бұрын
Very true.
@fizmath935
@fizmath935 9 ай бұрын
True but I have been told by a guy with an MBA from Univ. of Chicago that if the ad is on Linkedin then they are really looking for somebody.
@frnkbooth6871
@frnkbooth6871 9 ай бұрын
@@fizmath935 could be true. I do not know if a LinkedIn in posting counts to the government. I know paid postings to other media outlets does count. So this is how the government tracks to make sure companies are “following the rules”
@np494609
@np494609 7 ай бұрын
Firms also go through interview processes sometimes to keep a candidate pool at all times. This is especially true in professional services where I work and we’re essentially brains for hire in IT.
@curtisrandolph1887
@curtisrandolph1887 6 ай бұрын
@@fizmath935 That MBA should be your first clue. Linkedin is Bull$hit.
@marymiller760
@marymiller760 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for confirming what was so obvious one year with no response from anybody on LinkedIn and indeed changing my résumé three different times three professional résumé writers, and still nothing. I’m Uber driving it pays the bills but I’m a condo association manager, and I have other credentials like project management and nothing.
@kissscareercoaching
@kissscareercoaching Жыл бұрын
When working with a resume writer, always make sure that they customize your resume to the specific job advertisement that you are applying to.
@byeteaching
@byeteaching Жыл бұрын
It's easy to make these mistakes, but being aware of them can save a lot of time and frustration. Well done!
@kissscareercoaching
@kissscareercoaching Жыл бұрын
Very true! Learn from experience.
@MarvellousMarvofurnitureUtibe
@MarvellousMarvofurnitureUtibe 7 ай бұрын
Hi friend
@scottandrewhutchins
@scottandrewhutchins Жыл бұрын
I'm 47 years old, and the number of jobs I've gotten by applying through the company website is still zero.
@kissscareercoaching
@kissscareercoaching Жыл бұрын
Applying on company websites doesn't guarantee an interview, and there are always exceptions to what I said about LI and Indeed. As you probably know, there are many other factors involved. Hope your luck changes.
@atlasdguad77
@atlasdguad77 Жыл бұрын
You might be experiencing ageism take off dates such as graduating date anything that might give insight to your age. Just a suggestion.
@scottandrewhutchins
@scottandrewhutchins Жыл бұрын
@@atlasdguad77 I know one of the better g problems is that AI badly misreads my resume. I mention editing 17 times, writing 15 times, and proofreading 13 times. TopResume showed me that things mentioned once in proper names are treated as of greater importance. I don't know how to change that, and no one else seems to, either.
@scottandrewhutchins
@scottandrewhutchins Жыл бұрын
"I freelanced for a bunch of different companies, but I can't tell you which or it throws off your algorithm" seems like a pathetic resume to me.
@underflo43tky
@underflo43tky Жыл бұрын
@@scottandrewhutchinsClient Companies do not like you to reveal them on your resume its a major red flag. But great for the algos. I worked for a incredible lists of companies but it was confidential.
@tiagobovolin
@tiagobovolin Жыл бұрын
This is what I call a very useful information. My friend, you probably is saving a lot of time in our lives. Thank you very much for your content.
@kissscareercoaching
@kissscareercoaching Жыл бұрын
You're welcome!
@leonrobinson2053
@leonrobinson2053 Жыл бұрын
sound advice. It take much longer to apply on their website and you run the risk that they company aren't as on top of things as they should be, i.e. old adverts on site. The best thing to do is find a contact name and call the company to enquire. You learn things the hard way but the right way. Good video
@kissscareercoaching
@kissscareercoaching 11 ай бұрын
Nothing beats direct communication with someone in the company.
@dubreil07
@dubreil07 Жыл бұрын
This is exactly what I do. I get more interviews like this. I’d like to also add the only con is that some companies despite having a career page some companies directly hire from their recruiters who most likely use LinkedIn to get workers
@kissscareercoaching
@kissscareercoaching Жыл бұрын
This is true. Recruiters do search LinkedIn, that's why you should have a well-developed profile.
@JonDoe-gi5zf
@JonDoe-gi5zf Жыл бұрын
This actually a really good idea. Most people will apply through indeed, linked in etc.
@xavierlaster
@xavierlaster Жыл бұрын
A key point in my eyes is quality of applications vs quantity. In my experience putting every job you've ever had on a job site doesn't work nearly as well as staying in the same industry. I have a few resumes saved based on the industry I'm pursuing and use them accordingly. Also It doesn't hurt to apply to both the job site and the company site. I had a job for 2 years that denied my application on the job site but accepted it on the companies website.
@Daniel_RO-TM
@Daniel_RO-TM Жыл бұрын
few resumes meaning fake ones with jobs you never worked?
@xavierlaster
@xavierlaster Жыл бұрын
@@Daniel_RO-TM Actually I'm from NYC and have had 2 jobs until recently. When one job is in hospitality and the other is in finance they don't go on the same resume.
@kissscareercoaching
@kissscareercoaching Жыл бұрын
Good strategy.
@WillsJazzLoft
@WillsJazzLoft 11 ай бұрын
The advice that this man is giving is gold !!! It may be time consuming, it may be labor intensive. Yet if any of us have any expectation of landing a job ( especially a dream job ), I think that it would incumbent upon us to follow his instruction(s). This is no different from how the state employment websites direct applicants when they do postings. So, you know that what he is saying is precise and on point.
@kissscareercoaching
@kissscareercoaching 11 ай бұрын
Thank you for your positive comment!
@dearyvettetn4489
@dearyvettetn4489 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for this advice. I’ve been job hunting for 6 months mostly on Indeed and LinkedIn with very few results, but I noticed that listings that link to the a company website to apply, which always annoyed the hell out of me because you have to make a login profile, those are the listings that I remember getting a callback or interview. I’ll curb my annoyance when I’m flung to an outside site. At least I know I have a fighting chance.
@kissscareercoaching
@kissscareercoaching Жыл бұрын
Customize your cover letter and resume to each job posting, and be patient. It will pay off!
@James-ws9ze
@James-ws9ze Жыл бұрын
Finally! Some useful job hunting advice rather than some general generic advice! Great video!
@kissscareercoaching
@kissscareercoaching Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@nox_tech_
@nox_tech_ Жыл бұрын
Ooh, thank you for pointing this out! One thing that Indeed isn't helpful for is how it may mark skills in the job description, and even preemptively reject applications as a result - I've recently seen one where the job description mentions preferring skills in one program, but mentioned a few other programs that would also be acceptable. One of those other programs, which in general I see recommended significantly less often than the others, was marked as required experience. That commonly used program? Not listed. This other other program? Required. Since I hadn't used this program (to scale, a friend had only ever used it in high school), Indeed didn't let me apply because I didn't have experience with - for emphasis - an acceptable tertiary _alternative_ for a program that they don't _require_, but _prefer_ experience for.
@kissscareercoaching
@kissscareercoaching Жыл бұрын
You're welcome! The hiring process is often constrained by algorithms used by indeed or LI. The saying "who you know is more important than what you know" is still true.
@samuelaluma219
@samuelaluma219 Жыл бұрын
Job applicants are of two categories: the machine gunners and the snipers. When one is a fresh graduate the person is more likely to adopt the first approach but with experience more people would adopt the second approach. Job markets vary from one country or region to the other. However, the issue that is universally common with businesses is trust.
@kissscareercoaching
@kissscareercoaching Жыл бұрын
Great comment. Put another way, shotgun vs rifle approach.
@winzyl9546
@winzyl9546 Жыл бұрын
Im an assault rifle, I have enough experience to know what job to apply to, but I dont care which company as long as they check my criteria of a good company.
@samuelaluma219
@samuelaluma219 Жыл бұрын
@@winzyl9546 Trust is both ways; on the side of the company and on the side of the applicant. Unless the organisation finds someone or at least someone they think they can trust, they won't fill up that position. So, in the end it's not really a matter of the number of applications. I've seen qualified applicants who were ghosted and other less qualified applicants being offered the job. It's alright being an experienced rifleman or machine gunner but of utmost importance is knowing the terrain of operations.
@ShowBizJunkie
@ShowBizJunkie Жыл бұрын
Explain your application of the terms you used?
@kissscareercoaching
@kissscareercoaching Жыл бұрын
@@winzyl9546 you have the right idea.
@issiewizzie
@issiewizzie Жыл бұрын
Just my observation. In some cases in the UK, for example, it depends on the type of job in relation to if it's a contract or permanent. Permanent jobs would normally be advertised by the company on their website in addition to using agencies. However, contract jobs are normally advertised by the agency.
@kissscareercoaching
@kissscareercoaching Жыл бұрын
True.
@oncallempath
@oncallempath 4 ай бұрын
Indeed and LinkedIn is the last place I go now to apply. I’ll only apply on the website and copy the key words on the job description to have AI create a custom resume and cover letter for that particular position. Make sure you hit all the bullet points on the job description. Finally ask and network. I have recruiters sending me positions that just come out so I can early. Get to know the recruiters using LinkedIn. I have an interview next week with a recruiter that reached out to me from a job. Only target recruiters on LinkedIn. I never apply for “easy apply” button. The best way I found is target current employees and ask if they are really hiring. A reference is also a good way to get on the front door. It’s a very rough market. Good luck everyone.
@kissscareercoaching
@kissscareercoaching 3 ай бұрын
Excellent tips, thanks for sharing!
@Turtle_2024
@Turtle_2024 Жыл бұрын
Bless your heart. Thanks for the much needed information and advice. I am now subscribed to you.
@kissscareercoaching
@kissscareercoaching Жыл бұрын
You're welcome, and thank you!
@robd7934
@robd7934 4 ай бұрын
Excellent points. Now i just use LinkedIn and Indeed to find out about jobs instead of applying at those sites
@mikedacunha3189
@mikedacunha3189 Жыл бұрын
You are the man! I literally needed to watch that at this moment! Stuck in a rutt! With applications!!! Grrrr
@kissscareercoaching
@kissscareercoaching Жыл бұрын
Thanks! I'm glad it helped.
@s.fleming2441
@s.fleming2441 Жыл бұрын
I hate linked in. But my teachers say you must or not get hired. I am trying to challenge that
@kissscareercoaching
@kissscareercoaching Жыл бұрын
When an employer searches for you on the internet, your LinkedIn profile shows up on the first search results page, showing the employer that you are 'real'. Some employers say that if you don't show up in a search, you don't exist.
@KLamki1
@KLamki1 10 ай бұрын
​@@kissscareercoachingthat is the stupidest take I ever heard from a teacher. Teachers used to tell you to think for yourself and read multiple sources. Now teachers use tiktok and instagram and wiki as 'truth'. Talk about rotting your brain with social media and making it your only identity. If all people do is use social media 24/7 and are glued to their phone like a teenage or middle aged woman that drinks wine, that is a red flag. I wouldn't want to work for them either because they probably can't distinguish imagination from reality.
@napadaanlng69
@napadaanlng69 Жыл бұрын
I also noticed that some companies don't regularly update the jobs page at their website but when you see the company page either in linkedin or indeed, there's a recent posting of a new job.
@kissscareercoaching
@kissscareercoaching Жыл бұрын
This is true. When I see something like that, I call the company to confirm. Once when I called, the owner told me there are no job vacancies and he didn't know why there was a job posting on indeed.
@lisaj4441
@lisaj4441 Жыл бұрын
@@kissscareercoaching Damn! These are the "ghost" postings.
@underflo43tky
@underflo43tky Жыл бұрын
No one updates websites anymore. Thats why LinkedIn exists.
@skyblazeeterno
@skyblazeeterno Жыл бұрын
​@@kissscareercoachingdoesn't the employer have to still pay for that advert in Indeed?
@kissscareercoaching
@kissscareercoaching Жыл бұрын
@@skyblazeeternojobs can be posted for free, but for greater visibility and to attract more applicants, they can be 'sponsored', or paid.
@toniabrunetti9084
@toniabrunetti9084 Ай бұрын
Thank You! This is exactly what I am going through right now with looking for work, and I am always on Indeed.
@kissscareercoaching
@kissscareercoaching Ай бұрын
Good luck in your job search!
@toniabrunetti9084
@toniabrunetti9084 Ай бұрын
@kissscareercoaching Thank You!!
@chacmool2581
@chacmool2581 Жыл бұрын
I've been doing this, applying directly, all along.
@cgranger972
@cgranger972 3 ай бұрын
Thank you for the tip. I have been applying through Indeed, LinkedIn and other jobs sites for a couple of months now and wondered why I was getting no reply. I will follow your suggestion and hopefully this will yield good results. Thanks again
@kissscareercoaching
@kissscareercoaching 3 ай бұрын
Best of luck!
@GammaRaie
@GammaRaie Жыл бұрын
That’s really good advice. That way you don’t get scammed!!!!
@RobertJames-zx7zz
@RobertJames-zx7zz 8 ай бұрын
I SALUTE You for all that your doing, helping all the victims of these scambaggs, they so deserved to be humiliated and be exposed to the public, these people have No place on this world, welldone Sir *Adriannotch* we're here to support you, More Power to you and all your friends, watching from Dalry England!!
@SadlySorrowful
@SadlySorrowful Жыл бұрын
I applied on the indeed and LinkedIn. And have not gotten a response to interview over 100 so far.
@kissscareercoaching
@kissscareercoaching Жыл бұрын
You have a lot of competition applying this way. Make sure you tailor your resume to each job posting. Wishing you all the best in your job search.
@SadlySorrowful
@SadlySorrowful Жыл бұрын
@@kissscareercoaching What is a better way to have a chance of getting the job?
@kissscareercoaching
@kissscareercoaching Жыл бұрын
@Mike Arima the short answer is 'networking'. A more specific answer depends on several factors, including your experience and the type of job you’re looking for, and is something I help job seekers with in my career coaching services.
@SadlySorrowful
@SadlySorrowful Жыл бұрын
@@kissscareercoaching I mean, for networking, where do I go to do that if not linkedin and indeed?
@kissscareercoaching
@kissscareercoaching Жыл бұрын
@@SadlySorrowful LinkedIn is great for networking, but not so great for applying for jobs because of the competition. In summary, find any of your connections that work for, have worked for, or are connected to anyone that works for any company that you are interested in. Then, reach out to them and ask if they can either introduce you to a manager, or share with you a manager's contact information. Contact those managers and communicate to them the value that you can provide to them and their company.
@Proposal12
@Proposal12 Жыл бұрын
That is true! I had to figure it out the hard way. I use recruiting companies and also look on linkedin apply there and then send a message to the poster or call if possible to follow up, then I also look on the companies website and apply there. For me it has got to the point where I`ll use linkedin more of a reference and applying as mentioned. Good advice!
@kissscareercoaching
@kissscareercoaching Жыл бұрын
Excellent strategy!
@Picla_Peremohy
@Picla_Peremohy Жыл бұрын
As a research tool if they have company and contacts with profiles. Small OSINT opportunity
@BeyondBorders00
@BeyondBorders00 Жыл бұрын
If I can find the job both on the company's career page and on LinkedIn or indeed why not apply on both? I've already tailored a cover letter for that job and perhaps answered some specific questions. Why not submit on both?
@kissscareercoaching
@kissscareercoaching Жыл бұрын
In that case, sure.
@anthonyreuterink2835
@anthonyreuterink2835 6 ай бұрын
Gee wizz, l wish l had seen your video 3 years ago. I have applied to +- 600 jobs. Only get a response to less than 5% of my applications. Starting now l will follow your tip. Thanks so much. Ant.
@kissscareercoaching
@kissscareercoaching 5 ай бұрын
You're welcome and best of luck in your job search!
@ibstayfly
@ibstayfly Жыл бұрын
I mostly use indeed but its really a hit or miss. Applying directly on website takes time too. Regardless how you apply to jobs they take forever and years to get back to you. I just hate having to wait. The whole job process is annoying I even thought about applying in person but I don't wanna go and embarrass myself cuz everything's online now. Do people still apply to jobs in person
@kissscareercoaching
@kissscareercoaching Жыл бұрын
In person applications are rare, unless it's retail. Like the saying goes, searching for a job is a full-time job.
@ibstayfly
@ibstayfly Жыл бұрын
@@kissscareercoaching ya definitely it's so annoying
@kissscareercoaching
@kissscareercoaching Жыл бұрын
@@ibstayfly using your network of connections, if you have one, is still the most effective way. And I'm talking about real people, not just LinkedIn.
@ibstayfly
@ibstayfly Жыл бұрын
@@kissscareercoaching true but unfortunately I don't have connections. I have LinkedIn too but never seem to get jobs on there either or connect with recruiters
@novadhd
@novadhd Жыл бұрын
yep i remember about ten years walking into some tech company and asking to apply. Looked at me like I was an alien lol
@wasanthiweerasinghe3866
@wasanthiweerasinghe3866 Жыл бұрын
That is good, I have posted lot of CVs but not answer yet.
@BitestheStuff
@BitestheStuff Жыл бұрын
I find that many jobs will ask you to fill out your application AND provide your application, but checking the career page before you apply is a great way to save time.
@calguy3838
@calguy3838 Жыл бұрын
These are all good suggestions. That said, applying directly on LinkeIn or Indeed is not a total waste of time, though it's best to get your application in on the first day or two after the job is posted.
@kissscareercoaching
@kissscareercoaching Жыл бұрын
Good suggestion, and there are always exceptions.
@Kometheus
@Kometheus Жыл бұрын
Hmm so spend 5x the amount of time applying on the site? Maybe for jobs your really interested in but for mass applying that's a no go.
@TruthSeeker9038
@TruthSeeker9038 11 ай бұрын
It's also worth mentioning that LinkedIn and Indeed use AI to pick applicants, rather than humans. It looks for certain key words in your applications. You may be well more qualified than one person for a job, but if you don't have one key word that they do, it will automatically throw out your application. I have had an immensely difficult time finding work, even when "every company was desperate for people" a few years ago, and I have a ton of experience and am also a veteran. This video has great advice. Indeed and LinkedIn can be useful tools to find jobs, but shouldn't be your only source to find work.
@myoutuber77
@myoutuber77 11 ай бұрын
Key word screening has nothing to do with AI. Employers have been doing it past 20 years.
@kissscareercoaching
@kissscareercoaching 11 ай бұрын
True. Keywords are very important, but that's not what this video is about.
@TruthSeeker9038
@TruthSeeker9038 11 ай бұрын
@@kissscareercoaching just sharing some friendly advice
@kissscareercoaching
@kissscareercoaching 11 ай бұрын
Sometimes including too much experience on your resume can work against you. To be effective, resumes need to be very focused.
@kissscareercoaching
@kissscareercoaching 11 ай бұрын
@@TruthSeeker9038 it's good advice too.
@luiggimondoli
@luiggimondoli 9 ай бұрын
I've never used Indeed nor Linkedin before, but what you just advised is exactly what I was planning to do.
@kissscareercoaching
@kissscareercoaching 9 ай бұрын
All the best in your job search!
@johnspivack
@johnspivack 11 ай бұрын
This man's honesty and sincere helpfulness is refreshing. I wish more recruiters and coaches were this way. I have a fine job, but am nonetheless interested in the topic.
@felixkuria1250
@felixkuria1250 Жыл бұрын
Woow ... This is very insightful. For sure I have been doing it wrong all along. Thank for this
@kissscareercoaching
@kissscareercoaching Жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@Heretic_Wolf
@Heretic_Wolf Жыл бұрын
Glassdoor and indeed collect all of the applicant’s information, especially when using a resume, I wonder what they do with all of this personal information??? 🤨 🤨 🤨 This is a good enough reason to go the extra mile and apply directly at a company’s website.
@kissscareercoaching
@kissscareercoaching Жыл бұрын
Good comment. I don't have evidence of this, but since these services are "free" to the user, I wouldn't be surprised.
@pierocavolino1057
@pierocavolino1057 7 ай бұрын
All those websites just collecting data and information, they can use for any purpose. It is part of the "Market strategy" and statistics. It is a psychological gamble.
@mokeys88
@mokeys88 Ай бұрын
Thank you for the tips. I will apply the them in my job searches.
@kissscareercoaching
@kissscareercoaching Ай бұрын
All the best in your job search!
@mmf9490
@mmf9490 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for real and complete information God bless you
@kissscareercoaching
@kissscareercoaching Жыл бұрын
You're welcome!
@nicolewhite5973
@nicolewhite5973 Жыл бұрын
Thank you very very helpful I was wondering why I wasn’t receiving responses with the credentials I have
@kissscareercoaching
@kissscareercoaching Жыл бұрын
You're welcome!
@brayoshomediys9686
@brayoshomediys9686 Жыл бұрын
Indeed doesn't work, I prefer company website. I applied over 100 jobs over the past 2 months, not a single interview.
@kissscareercoaching
@kissscareercoaching Жыл бұрын
I agree. If you are not getting interviews, did you customize your resume for each job posting, communicating a value proposition that matches the employer's needs? Did you optimize it to include the right keywords?
@brayoshomediys9686
@brayoshomediys9686 Жыл бұрын
@KISSS Career Coaching Perhaps thats where I might have failed over the first few applications. But in the recent applications, I have been updating my resume considering the requirements of the job. One issue I might be having is that most of the experience zi have is from a foreign country, so it might be hard to acquire references and trust, though I am not sure.
@kissscareercoaching
@kissscareercoaching Жыл бұрын
Yes, that could be contributing to why you might not be getting called for interviews. If you have any domestic experience, even it it's volunteering or education, organize your resume so that these appear close to the top of your resume.
@ideearchie7435
@ideearchie7435 7 ай бұрын
Thank you. This was good info. I have applied to so much job on indeed and linkedin but no response from the employer.
@kissscareercoaching
@kissscareercoaching 7 ай бұрын
Wishing you all the best in your job search!
@philu3
@philu3 Жыл бұрын
Excellent tip. Thank you so much for sharing.
@kissscareercoaching
@kissscareercoaching Жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@truthseeker8524
@truthseeker8524 Ай бұрын
That's very helpful, thanks. Been getting zero response from Linkedin and Indeed.
@mariaakram2540
@mariaakram2540 Жыл бұрын
Thats great, sir! I have been applying to many a jobs online through the same platform and I get rejections in minutes after applying and that feels disastrous to mem 😢
@kissscareercoaching
@kissscareercoaching Жыл бұрын
I understand how you feel. Make sure that your resume is customized specifically to the job advertisement.
@brandonblue4783
@brandonblue4783 4 ай бұрын
Thanks for this. In my job search on LinkedIn my intuition and experience hunting for a job has led me to this idea as well.
@steventelfer8186
@steventelfer8186 Жыл бұрын
You speak the truth my man!
@AndyK.1
@AndyK.1 4 ай бұрын
3:00 Also means linkedin don’t get commission which gives you an advantage
@Zizook
@Zizook 9 ай бұрын
This is exactly how I got my first job without needing to have multiple years of experience experience to be excepted. This is truly like a mini shortcut, instead of applying to jobs for a year, it instead takes 3 months or less depending on the job market peak times.
@Tshemak
@Tshemak Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for this video it’s been six weeks and applied for many jobs they never reply but still send more job vacancies it’s really annoying and time consuming
@kissscareercoaching
@kissscareercoaching Жыл бұрын
You're welcome! Yes, it can be frustrating.
@photokunstler
@photokunstler Жыл бұрын
Seriously.. I have NEVER GOTTEN an interview via those two websites. It’s the worst. Indeed is a tad better because it fills in all ur info but blehhhh still shitty.
@amab1853
@amab1853 4 ай бұрын
This advice is so helpful! I feel like recently LinkedIn & indeed are not as effective. Applying directly on the company's website or reaching out to their hr department by calling seems to be better
@mohibquadri4053
@mohibquadri4053 2 жыл бұрын
Sir how to find those clients who are in your age group & doesn't use social media much like linked in platforms? How to find & approach them correctly for freelancing work ..
@kissscareercoaching
@kissscareercoaching 2 жыл бұрын
That is a very big question, and it depends on several characteristic of your target market. Consider email marketing, or the old fashioned way - cold calling using the phone.
@spenagon
@spenagon 8 ай бұрын
I agree that Linkedin has to improve the job search, and the following of the applications. Also I agree that many job position are not active in linkedin. You can see the same positions posted again and again.
@Green-ty4kw
@Green-ty4kw Жыл бұрын
Indeed is filled to the brim with ghost jobs
@kissscareercoaching
@kissscareercoaching Жыл бұрын
"Ghost jobs" - I like that phrase.
@1InterestedNot
@1InterestedNot Жыл бұрын
Lol!😂
@ronmackinnon9374
@ronmackinnon9374 5 ай бұрын
@@kissscareercoaching It's being used all over the place now.
@Rashomon69
@Rashomon69 Жыл бұрын
How important is it to use a cover letter when applying through Indeed? Do the hiring managers actually read those these days?
@kissscareercoaching
@kissscareercoaching Жыл бұрын
Even though cover letters are still often required, the jury is out as to how many hiring managers actually read them.
@whyistheworldsowicked
@whyistheworldsowicked Жыл бұрын
Thanks I learnt a ton and God bless..
@kissscareercoaching
@kissscareercoaching Жыл бұрын
You're welcome!
@samnayakawadi
@samnayakawadi Жыл бұрын
This is actually true & really helpful compare to LinkedIn or Indeed
@Matlockization
@Matlockization Жыл бұрын
You actually make a lot of sense.
@kissscareercoaching
@kissscareercoaching Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@herbertvonsauerkrautunterh2513
@herbertvonsauerkrautunterh2513 4 ай бұрын
I number has problems with any online job boards. Lots of responses.
@ojinwayoonyeze3864
@ojinwayoonyeze3864 Жыл бұрын
Hey man, you are just very good at what you do. Well done.
@kissscareercoaching
@kissscareercoaching Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@frankiecarrrierivg03
@frankiecarrrierivg03 3 ай бұрын
I never thought of that if the company don’t have a career page but is on indeed then you should call the company I’m doing that from now on
@elizabethingram9784
@elizabethingram9784 Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for this very helpful video. I appreciate it so much. Subscribed. 😊
@kissscareercoaching
@kissscareercoaching Жыл бұрын
You're welcome!
@thomaskeenan2208
@thomaskeenan2208 Жыл бұрын
Good advice, apply directly if possible. LinkedIn useful for recruiters to find you and learn about companies.
@kissscareercoaching
@kissscareercoaching Жыл бұрын
That's right. LinkedIn is also useful to learn about the hiring managers in the company.
@jeffweaver4103
@jeffweaver4103 Жыл бұрын
Those job websites are complete crap. You will never get a confirmation of a submission, or a call back. The only thing that works is YOUR network. Yes, if you can scrape the sites for the companies websites, do it, for sure.
@kissscareercoaching
@kissscareercoaching Жыл бұрын
Absolutely agree that your network is your #1 asset.
@doogeerugged89
@doogeerugged89 3 ай бұрын
I've applied to literally a little over 200 in the last six months. 2 things 1 My resume is nearly 97% auto mechanic with numerous employers of the last 12 years. 2 The jobs being posted are staying up for longer than 6 months and about 1 out over every 30 are actually being viewed, according to the notifications I get from Indeed.
@kissscareercoaching
@kissscareercoaching 2 ай бұрын
I have seen this in other industries too. Employers may be very selective, or in some cases they may post a job opening to test the quality and quantity of applicants, not necessarily wanting to hire at the time.
@doogeerugged89
@doogeerugged89 2 ай бұрын
@@kissscareercoaching I can't remember where I saw this particular video ( i think Asmondgold) But the video was about this topic and some Employers do this in inflate the numbers to present to their uppers or share holders to justify their "growth" or "desire" and when they do their quarterly reports .. it make them look good
@BartZych-sl8jy
@BartZych-sl8jy 2 ай бұрын
@@doogeerugged89good to know. Thanks for sharing this info!
@a-mvini23322
@a-mvini23322 2 ай бұрын
Any job still there after 4 weeks is suspicious to me.
@kissscareercoaching
@kissscareercoaching Ай бұрын
That is often true.
@Love2Banime
@Love2Banime Жыл бұрын
I always wondered what the "promoted" was on LinkedIn. Even looking up on Google, it never explained it clearly. Thank you for your knowledge.
@Labyrinth6000
@Labyrinth6000 10 ай бұрын
It’s Pay per click for LinkedIn. Everytime you open a promoted listing, that company has to pay LinkedIn a fee per click until they hire someone and close the listing
@陳詩涵詩涵
@陳詩涵詩涵 8 ай бұрын
The amount of bravery this took was INSANE. These people all had their lives in danger, but still decided to go through with the recovery for the sake of busting bad scammers. True respect *Adriannotch* on the internet! If the FBI was half as dedicated and ingenious (and honest) as you guys are, the USA would be a much safer country. Amazing work!
@retf054ewte3
@retf054ewte3 Жыл бұрын
90% of jobs on indeed don't exist. fake or old ads
@wilmer360tv
@wilmer360tv 9 ай бұрын
thats messed up unemployed, 20 liveing with parents and i really don't want to waste my time in college if i can't even get a job.
@privatecitizen1246
@privatecitizen1246 8 ай бұрын
@@wilmer360tv doesn't matter if you "waste your time" or not. They're finding now that employers are doing "quiet hiring" now - posting jobs they have NO INTENTION OF FILLING to make their overworked employees think they're going to get help. Yeah, that's a thing now. They say now you need to do 500 applications just to get a few interviews. Instead of college go into a trade, you get paid to get trained. And plumbers, construction workers, electricians etc make BANK.
@GillianGeorge-x5e
@GillianGeorge-x5e 6 ай бұрын
Also LinkedIn has scammers posting positions.
@Real-Name..Maqavoy
@Real-Name..Maqavoy 5 ай бұрын
Same with indeed
@Elmaestrodemusica
@Elmaestrodemusica Жыл бұрын
I totally agree! I've done this.
@thewinterwoods
@thewinterwoods 9 ай бұрын
I've been doing this since I noticed I had applied to a job on Linkedin with 1,000+ applicants. I'm still unemployed, but knock on wood.
@kissscareercoaching
@kissscareercoaching 8 ай бұрын
Good luck in your search!
@Laylajes
@Laylajes 8 ай бұрын
Thanks I heard this about Linkedin and Indeed. You have confirmed this theory. Trying to get a entry level job should not be this difficult. Also please do one on how to network to get a job as it is stressful applying to hundreds of jobs
@kissscareercoaching
@kissscareercoaching 8 ай бұрын
Thanks! I'll see what I can do.
@claudioxerez
@claudioxerez Жыл бұрын
I appreciated your excellent advice!
@kissscareercoaching
@kissscareercoaching Жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@BigDaddy4Real
@BigDaddy4Real 11 ай бұрын
Very insightful! Thank you! I'm subscribing
@kissscareercoaching
@kissscareercoaching 10 ай бұрын
You're welcome, and thank you!
@talltalllady
@talltalllady Жыл бұрын
Sometimes Indeed even tells you to apply on company website after applying on Indeed.
@stopchildabuse7932
@stopchildabuse7932 Жыл бұрын
Like 90% at the end the indeed apply is false
@pains1956
@pains1956 Ай бұрын
YES I do that and also sent messages to the CEO letting them know I was applying to be his assistant..ALSO I receive calls to arrange a virtual call of 30 minutes and I rarely get a 2nd interview..Sometimes I had 2 or 3 but it ends there
@kissscareercoaching
@kissscareercoaching Ай бұрын
It is tough out there. Looks like you're doing the right things. Keep trying!
@hermees100
@hermees100 Жыл бұрын
Extremely useful information. Thank you Sir.
@kissscareercoaching
@kissscareercoaching Жыл бұрын
You're welcome!
@robertlehrer233
@robertlehrer233 3 ай бұрын
Thank you for your useful advice Bart. I'm puzzled though, about one of your tips. If I click "Apply" on LinkedIn and am led directly to the prospective employer's website (assuming the role is still open), how is that different from bypassing LinkedIn?
@kissscareercoaching
@kissscareercoaching 2 ай бұрын
LinkedIn may have changed their process since I made the video, but I still hear from applicants that this is not always the case.
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