Forget Pentatonics!

[@hugosesolis5720]

I've spent 163 hours watching open studio's videos about pentatonics, and now you ask me to forget it??! YOU MONSTERS ;-)

[@Zxx459]

Charlie p. Said it" Master it.then forget it" You do the math😊

[@SunnyRawka]

Like classical training!!! 😸

[@brian106699]

This stuff is like standing on a glass box looking in. I see it. I hear it. BUT I CAN’T TOUCH IT!! I’m still here though. E’ry day as we say in St. Louis.

[@granddaddy_funk]

I've been trying this stuff for like 2 years now(I'm a classical pianist with like 15 years of experience) . You gotta keep going. I'm only now starting to get a little better at jazz improv.

[@peterkrinke3855]

Lol I like that metaphor

[@dougwintersbks]

EXACTLY. It’s like watching a magician and think “Oh, that’s how he does it.” Cool! But…c’mon. But I’ll keep sheddin’ if y’all will!!!!!!!!

[@geocosmicvalentine]

Just touch the piano, splash around, be a gold fish. Even play it badly on purpose and you’ll be shocked at what it leads to. 🙂👍🏽

[@paulrhodesquinn]

You’ll get there! A little bit every day 😊

[@arnogoossens9892]

This is top notch music-educational content, guys... It has everything. Clear establishment of concept, clear explanation, very clear examples, virtual piano, scores, examples of further application, everything... It's very accessible stuff.

[@fractal618]

You guys have something for everyone. As a guitar player I gain a lot of insight how keyboardists think. The hexaphonic patterns are a revelation! Thanks.

[@SuperMANgino]

The virtual piano makes these episodes so much better to learn from. I hope you all bring it back!!!

[@jarediledundee]

Did I just watch the best jazz lesson on the internet? I think it could be!! I too associated THAT sound with the pentatonic scale. I stand corrected though, thanks to this lesson. Off to the practice room I go! Thanks gents, I really appreciate all you do for the fans of this music

[@RyJohnsonMusic]

These etudes are some of Adam’s best pedagogical work! I’m going to be shedding these for weeks :) even Peter seemed really impressed

[@pianopeter]

indeed

[@RyJohnsonMusic]

@@pianopeter maybe a video about how Coltrane uses pentatonics would be a cool follow up- a more unique approach to “taking it out” with pentatonics. There’s a good Ramon Ricker book called “Pentatonics Scales for Jazz Improvisation” that has a chart of superimposing pentatonics and their relative “outness.” Great work as always :)

[@Zxx459]

You are on the wrong path....

[@RyJohnsonMusic]

@@Zxx459 what?

[@georgehiggins1320]

Nobody talks about this enough. There's so much instruction on the internet for bebop language (which I LOVE btw). But pentatonic language to me seems like it's always been associated with an air of ineffable mystery. Thank you all for talking about it and breaking it down!

[@zweiwelten3384]

I have always loved this McCoy Tyner sound. And now I thank I have got the hang of how to get there! Thank you so much, Adam, for this lesson!

[@martincheesman4564]

Thank you so much gents. However experienced one might be, you always add another dimension and factor. And you’re both such humble gentle people full of enthusiasm for the subject. Really appreciate you both. Thank you

[@alejandro913ify]

I myself play guitar and this was immensely helpful for my playing! Thank you so much. This amazing. And the piano on the screen is a must have😮

[@amileoj9043]

This is one of those extra special Open Studio episodes that seems to turn a key and unlock a long standing mystery. Agree with others: great pedagogy from Adam and having Peter as our 'student proxy' really helped bring the sesh alive. First rate work guys!

[@opndmind]

Thank you for wonderful inspiration! I've cancelled the rest of my schedule today to work on this. Pure joy!

[@KMGWorryFree]

Fantastic information being shared here! I am a guitar player and absolutely love superimposing pentatonics in my solos. Combining these triad pairs is a total ear opener! Great stuff guys! We love this channel

[@musiccreation1198]

Holy moly Adam & Peter... phenomenal content...dare I say, best ever?

[@buttunz]

Peter that shirt fly af.

[@arnogoossens9892]

Haha, went back to the video to check the shirt and now I'm thinking "which one is Peter"? xD They both have cool shirts.

[@jarbasgoulartdecastro9104]

Dear Peter !!! Dear Adam!!!! Love ya !!!!Love Open Studio!!!!!

[@raphaelbetemps7106]

I practiced jazz 30 years ago and stoped playing for many reasons. I havent the skills and the ear to understand everything but you approch opened up a way to grab a new sound and getting out of my pentatonics beguiner habits. Thanks a lot for sharing this knowledge (Raphael guitar player from france)

[@cavabertcavabert6147]

Le bonjour de Marseille. Bonne écoute.

[@JP-hb4mv]

could not get a better format than this, great work

[@DrMax0]

Aaaaand another door opened for my modal playing. Thanks for keeping me fresh. I wish I had more time for practicing rather than earning money ...

[@turing999]

This is an absolutely brilliant way to do a deep dive into solos. Love the dialogue. This will deepen the experience when listening next time.

[@alchemysticgoldmind4164]

I am guitarist and I look at and steal from you guys regularly .This Hextonic thing made me go down the rabbit hole...Whew..man all I can say is thank you...cause it changed my way of playing. This is one of the secret sauces.Benson and Satriani use this you can here it in their playing..Playing Pentatonic +the 7 and dumping the four..makes lines come alive.. melodic..Thanks guys

[@clayousmore2543]

I am here to do the same thing bruh😂😂

[@strat1227]

Love this so much. It's such a great feeling to hear my playing level up in real time after working with one of these videos. Like I just unlocked a new ability and now it comes natural. Thanks a ton

[@jorgeguimaraes8820]

18:00 that chromatic major minor lick is a signature khachaturian move

[@gabrielbotsford791]

A lot of crazy things happen when you remove the Major 6th from your target/sound/approach/what have you.... Great content as always gents!!!!

[@alangonzalez4552]

You're great, guys! Thanks so much for every video

[@Milkyfish7]

Love listening to you guys talk and play! Many thanks ❤

[@LostSoulAscension]

I freakin love you guys man. ❤ So fun to watch and listen to the Jazz between y'all.

[@randyhetlage9202]

thanks, I was needing this.❤

[@LowKeyTired-q7d]

Great lesson! I love that kind of piano playing, like McCoy tyner and chick Corea, as you demonstrated, yippee !!!

[@jacklynam5653]

Return of the good thumbnails!

[@klodinsky3132]

Best series❤

[@chrisholland6080]

Even though I'm greatly reducing the Information Treadmill, I've been over to the piano to run through these. They lay real nice, very applicable to my solo and trio work. Thanks, gentlemen!

[@rosaliedeneubourg3225]

Hexatonic Is like mixolydian without the 6. Nice❤

[@GizzyDillespee]

Whoa: "peace... and piano", and a change-up on the outro! All I got's the Reface (i.e. minikeys) here, so I'm not practicing any muscle memory anything today. But that 2nd etude sounds like something I'd want to play anyway, etude or not.

[@Gnurklesquimp2]

Triads are awesome. Something fun to try is pair 2 triads that dont fit in one of the modes together and reflect the pairing in the voicing and/or the way the chord is broken up. Like a particular bit of modal interchange? Well, what if they were both derived from the same scale after all? Major 1 + minor 4 is a classic example that works well. Lets say you do some classic interchange stuff with that, then BAM, the combined scale.

[@deandredavenportspeaks6611]

I love these guys

[@jtonemediaholdings108]

You can think of the F-Eb grouping as like Eb Lydian

[@lukeserrano62]

Superb lesson; many thanks.

[@kazuki535-j5j]

Thanks for your philosophy

[@AngelOtero-mn1th]

Hey Guys, Really enjoy the piano playing 👍 Both of you are exceptionally accomplished 👍 I have noticed a few things that reminded me of Alex Bugnon. Would you guys do a breakdown of his style and approach ❓

[@MinhPham-ly7yp]

Hi. Great lesson. Can someone illuminate why McCoy Tyner and others were obsessed with pentatonics in this era? And playing them against quartal harmonies? Thanks.

[@MaxGaming65]

You should do a video on the genius of petrucciani, i feel like he’s not talked about enough and he’s amazing!

[@damonshanabarger2604]

26:38 That F7 Jazz sound is completely happening with me.

[@dskinner6263]

Great upload. Thanks 👍

[@machinate]

I do algorithmic music (computer generated stuff), and moving from pentatonics to hexaphonics has really lifted my recen work! Still working on "taking it out" without sounding like "PROGRAM ERROR", heh.

[@taliassa383]

Wow, fantastic lesson. Transcriptions only for members ?

[@paulosinetti]

Muito bom professor! Feedback: o som do piano ficou muito melhor aqui na transmissão (parece um timbre diferente com um leve 👏👏

[@bobwilkinsonguitar6142]

Is there something like this for guitars? Learn a lot from you guys, but I'm a strings guy at heart. Rotem Sivan is close. Cheers

[@francoissalace5907]

merci!

[@demsi2004]

Please, could you analyze left hand of Wynton Kelly in the future?

[@joachimmahoudeaux8619]

OS: forget pentatonics !!! Jaco Pastorius: sorry…not 😂

[@tradingwithwill7214]

This is great thanks

[@noelbrown6058]

Thanks! Great stuff! BTW…where can I get a “LAPTOP Prop” like those?

[@poonnawat9178]

Is there a similar thing for dominant minor chords?

[@genghismccann7659]

Is there an equivalent for the minor pentatonic? fm and eb?

[@davidlewis6762]

Wow, love that shirt Peter - can you drop a link to where we can find it??

[@pianopeter]

Father's Day gift from my fam - they have way better taste than me

[@Threlgar]

Sorry to be A Grump:: I clicked the ling for the pdf but it never has arrived, even thru multiple requests!! But this vid kicks butt to explain cCoy's sound!!!

[@OpenStudioJazz]

Please email [e-mail] and we'll get you setup!

[@gillan5]

Allman Brothers used it.

[@kzeich]

Soo much information. If you want to play the piano well, PLAY THE PIANO! 😂

[@MrFedemoral]

Adam!, is this transcription available somewhere in OS through soundslice ?

[@medislam6961]

What happened to the other channel

[@pianopeter]

stay tuned...

[@lrsmth06]

Also make sure your piano "stays tuned"

[@medislam6961]

@@lrsmth06 midi keyboard gang here

[@dagadbm]

i wonder if you could explain this with the diminished family of barry harris.

[@dagadbm]

yes you can. So F7 originates from C dim7. You know what else originates from C diminished 7? Eb major 6 and F6 (notice the E for the hexascale). man you can apply barry harris to EVERYTHING. this is INCREDIBLE.

[@GizzyDillespee]

Triad pairs but major-major instead of major-diminished, is all I got so far... but now McCoy is playing so much more, too😂

[@GizzyDillespee]

Now that I'm close to the end... this hexatonic scale sounds more like lydian dominant than diminished 6th, to me. But it's more natural for me to think about it as triad pairs, just as they framed it, really.

[@GizzyDillespee]

I mean, it's kinda the major pentatonic scale with the lydian note added. Many ways around it, I guess. Paraphrasing Adam, it's all the chromatic scale, and we're highlighting different flavors within it, with each phrase.

[@MinhPham-ly7yp]

@@dagadbmI get C dim = F7 and F6. But don’t you need C# dim to get Eb6?

[@pianoman_JP]

Great stuff guys, thanks & GALA!!

[@millerboymusic5954]

🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@xXAjaxXx]

What do you mean by "pentatonics"? I don't recall ever hearing that word before....

[@richardc1129]

so a mixture of mixolydian and pentatonic? there's that flat 7th.

[@turtlespiritflutes7570]

The Wonton Scale

[@robinsarchiz]

I forgot all about pentatonics and now I don't understand what they're talking about.

[@kwgm8578]

Sorry guys, but I can't read that -- the transcription is way too small. But I hear the chord shifts and understand what he's doing. This is quartal.

[@markbra]

Gen x, good lord 😥

[@DouglasMades-ck8yi]

A short string, for me, can be musical, but a sustained long solo of non singable strings of notes just doesn’t do it for me. Ear of the beholder.

[@tomsiegel9759]

Same

[@zekielrodriguez5229]

Fair. But just remember to stay inspired and working at it, and I also think it’s a good idea to learn new things and challenge yourself for its own sake. I don’t necessarily think the best version of you as a musician is the one that prioritizes trends and doing the most impressive and esoteric thing, but the one that is inspired and works at their own vision.

[@skyhr]

I want to see you guys get drunk and have an improv 1 hour jazz session Make it happen!!! :))

[@GizzyDillespee]

That's only for the Open Studio Pro Premium Subgum Deluxe "You Buy, We Fly" sessions

[@GizzyDillespee]

In case anyone takes my intention wrongly... I was implying that it would be way too entertaining for us to deserve that as a free video🤣

[@borriskarlov8140]

WTAF did I just hear!

[@ili626]

Wait a minute.. Some of us are learning pentatonics from your previous lessons. But now you’re telling us to forget all that? You now say it’s all about triad pairs? Well, I’ve decided it’s all about 31-TET ok.. so there

[@johnpublic976]

Why do some people, like myself, do not understand, like, or appreciate Jazz or this type of music? It makes no sense to me. Jazzy music could be just on a much higher level, invisible to me, that my brain cannot understand. I love rock and classical, but jazz, to me, is like scratching chalk on a chalkboard. Glad there are Musical styles and modalities for everyone. It's just not for me,,, I think Mariachi is also Wierd!

[@Zxx459]

Guys dont be fool by these GUYS ...FOLLOW YOU OWN PATH.

[@kzeich]

Yes. It's easy to lose your identity as a musician