Forging an arrowhead - plus digressions

Get your first audiobook credit and full access to the Plus Catalogue for free when you try Audible for 30 days visit audible.com/lindybeige or text "lindybeige" to 500 500. In this video, I make an arrowhead (or crossbow bolt head) from a length of iron rod. I also talk about a few things, ranging from Russian literature to stabbing, and introduce you to an actual journeying 'journeyman'.
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[@keepyourbilsteins]

I was today years old when I learned that the small group of young men I saw at a tavern in Austria were not some sort of hipster steampunk club, but instead were journeymen.

[@MrTohawk]

They were probably bidding farewell to one who was leaving to journey.

[@lenny_1369]

@@MrTohawk damn, that sounds like a plot

[@AmTrFilms]

Turns out the hipsters aren't as original as they thought

[@dt5690]

They also have a Chapter House of sorts in Sibiu (Hermannstadt), Transylvannia, Romania. They usually come in Summer and stay for 1-2 months. They have exhibitions, they accept donations and they help restore parts of old medieval buildings in Old Town part of the city. They're chill and like to drink. Nice tradition.

[@Kevin80237]

Did they ask for a quest?

[@MrNicoJac]

Honestly, a LindyBeige video _without_ digressions is not a real LindyBeige video

[@michelguevara151]

quite so.

[@troy4298]

Lol

[@ManDuderGuy]

We're all here for the digressions.

[@cleverusername9369]

No digressions isn't LindyBeige, it's LindyOffWhite.

[@JarthenGreenmeadow]

@@ManDuderGuy I clicked specifically because of the promise of digressions.

[@williamsohlstrom1530]

You really start to appreciate the 15 arrowheads you smith with 4 blows and one metal bar in RuneScape.

[@johnqpublic2718]

What the hell is “RuneScape,” a god damned vidja game?

[@TheDetonadoBR]

@@johnqpublic2718 Yes! It's a god dammed vidja game! The kids these days I'll tell ya!

[@dermotrooney9584]

I'm sticking with Skyrim. A lump of firewood, an iron ingot and press A, you get 25 arrows that weigh nothing yet have enough mass to kill an angry giant crab. This "RuneScape" and "Reality" you speak of are too much like hard work. Great vid by the way Lloyd 🌟👍🌟.

[@versacifyy]

Was looking for a RS related comment lol

[@kanrup5199]

@@johnqpublic2718 runescape is the grinding hole where the time of my misspent youth dissapeared in to. hah.

[@mendelovitch]

The Journeyman bit should have its own dedicated video. I have never heard of the tradition.

[@steemlenn8797]

About the Journeyman I recommend this video: It's a Reinhard Mey song with some english explanations about the content and slightly older footage. Every part of the clothing has a meaning. The one that gets me is about the earrings: Those are from gold, to pay for the buriel if they die somewhere in the world. kzbin.info/www/bejne/h5XFd2eoesuZhZY The Journeyman walked for 3 years and one day to learn their trade from different masters all over Europe, and today in the world.

[@HenryLoenwind]

In a nutshell: One cannot become a master by learning from only one master. So any tradesman who wanted to be more than a lowly worker had to go onto a journey after their apprenticeship---become a journeyman. An apprentice could only do work for their master, anything they produced was the master's work. They were no different than the master's tools in that respect. No matter how good they were, they would never be able to put their maker's mark on anything they did. A journeyman was allowed to produce their own goods and had to put their own mark on it, being responsible for its quality, but they still had to work under a master (i.e. working as an employee that (usually) is allowed to do side projects if they pay for the materials). Only when being accepted by the masters of the guild (of a specific place) could they become masters themselves and open their own shops. Note that the journey is the transition from apprentice to journeyman and the new title can be used either from the start of the journey or from the end of the apprenticeship (this differed by region and time).

[@1337fraggzb00N]

In German, what he does is called "Auf Walz gehen" (to take the journey of the apprentice).

[@nedisahonkey]

Lindybeige saying "there will be digressions" is one of the most exciting sentences on youtube. Id be very disappointed if there was a lindybeige video WITHOUT digressions.

[@newperve]

Has there ever been a lindybeige video without digressions.

[@nedisahonkey]

@@newperve Not that I've ever seen thankfully.

[@AnotherDuck]

It's like Matt saying, "there will be innuendo".

[@LoisoPondohva]

Is there even a video at that point?

[@iakahdrake2801]

Cool to see a german journeyman on the walz. Worked with german carpenters for 2 weeks 2 years ago, one of them always wore the traditional "Kluft" during work. They were building wooden houses, I built roofs with them. They got a great sense of humor and one heck of a work ethic.

[@nullings]

Ive also worked a week with a German journeyman passing by. I have the same impression! Very hard working with a real love for the trait!

[@Kuzmorgo]

german and humour in one sentence? Hans, is that you?

[@steemlenn8797]

@@Kuzmorgo We Germans have a lot of humor. Some of it is even funny!

[@Kremit_the_Forg]

@@steemlenn8797 It's true. Though you have to file a form and fax it to the ministery of health. The form has to explain in detail what kind of joke you are planing to make, what experience you have with jokes and if you are lucky you get it approved. But joke telling on worksites is only permitted in breaks and must not exceed one joke per break. And the content of the joke better be political correct and gender-inclusive, otherwise forget about it.

[@sebastianriemer1777]

Genau. There is a time for jokes and a time for work. ☝🏻

[@frankbarnwell____]

When you least expect... Lindybeige

[@shitmultiverse1404]

The beige inquisition

[@lombardaserrote9900]

indeed, it's 02:12 am where I'm at and suddenly... LINDYBEIGE

[@roninhood1027]

It has an evil nasty purpose, until it’s you being attacked by someone in a suit of armour, then it’s the best pointy stabby thing in the world!

[@inisipisTV]

Yes, specially if you watched the movie "the Last Duel" and know the actual real fight, quite useful to bash open someone's helmet and then stab stab stab thy enemy's eyes, thus ending them rightly.

[@VincentGonzalezVeg]

@@inisipisTV also you could stab while hunting " And my arm was like a jackhammer, the guide said. I stabbed him 70 times" - Dan Pena hunting a large animal with a handgun & a guide& a knife 🗡️

[@badlandskid]

@@inisipisTV wait, the pommel screws off?

[@rawrmfrawr7746]

"There will be digressions." Joke's on you Lloyd. I'm here for the digressions. Can't get enough of your content. Been here for over a decade and hopefully a decade more. If i remember right the first video i saw was on hoplite shields.

[@anthonybanderas9930]

Do you remember the one about minorities?

[@ScienceDiscoverer]

@@anthonybanderas9930 Best one was about global warming.

[@VosperCDN]

Having a gladius made from period lump of metal would be amazing. Also, who is really surprised that there would be digressions ...

[@MizantropMan]

Digressions are what we are here for.

[@nickdougan394]

We would have been very disappointed had there been no digressions.

[@lowlandnobleman6746]

I personally wouldn’t mind seeing more examples of that Celtic sword that Lindy was holding.

[@Tadicuslegion78]

Henry V: Where are my arrows for my army? Lindy: I'm working as fast as I can, ya nob. It's my first day!

[@jeremyszpicki491]

I Imagine Arrows for the king is something a Journeyman would be doing, Probably under supervision(managment) by a Master Smith in the City's guild. Dave the Apprentice is probably holding the fucking tools for someone and looking for the 14th century equivelent of Headlight fluid/ A.I.R or whatever funny the other guys sent him to get.

[@somersethuscarl2938]

@@jeremyszpicki491 English production of arrows during the 100 year war was on a truly industrial scale involving 1000's of people across the country.

[@rogersmith7396]

Hes head of the new pacifist movement.

[@obh7762]

I had no idea that the German journeymen still existed today! I knew about them in history, of course, but it's nice to know that some old traditions still survive. on a completely unrelated note, the lego man at the end of the video is on screen for 143 frames.

[@Zestric]

It is rare these days and often difficult to do but is still done occasionally if you have the extra money and/or helpful connections to tradespeople in other places. Carpenters are probably the most common these days, though I assume that's just because carpenters are far more common these days compared to blacksmiths or similar. They can stand out quite a bit because they often wear some sort of traditional outfit either the traditional dress of their home region or a sort of uniform of the trade. If you've ever seen a group of builders with only one of them dressed in lederhosen or something that might well have been why. Keep in mind though that specific tradition can vary wildly between (sometimes quite small) regions.

[@Alex-cw3rz]

22:27 it's interesting seeing this as for some reason we often think of blacksmiths as this solitary job, done by one person alone, but this shows how seen as the most common type of grinder required three people. Our common image must be not as accurate as I once thought.

[@llYossarian]

Blacksmiths had blacksmiths' apprentices ...as well as "assistants" that were not apprenticed.

[@eldorados_lost_searcher]

@@pekirt That's true. Much like doctors, you have general practitioners, and you have specialists.

[@adambielen8996]

Plus you might have one or more Journeymen at the smith learning and assisting. Also in larger towns and cities there would likely be bigger smiths or arsenals that have a large number of full on smiths and are run by a guild.

[@Habdabi]

When you think about it, was one of the pinnacles of technology at the time. A lot of people needed you for not only defense, but tools for building and eating, as well as farming. The money was probably decent, so I highly doubt they were solo. Source: me just wondering sat on my ass

[@KarltheKrazyone]

Having done just a little running of a forge, and as a beginner welder, I'd say that as others mentioned, the range of operations would be huge. Everything from single-person Blacksmith/Ferrier operations to workers in a city arsenal, and all in between. Since one decent-sized forge can have parts heating for several workers, I would bet a common setup would be three to four smiths working around a forge with their own anvils, each having a helper, and possibly someone maintaining the fire. Since specific tasks like tempering are often done in more specialized shaped forges or ovens, I can see a well-run shop having a nearly production line set-up since it would make sense for more experienced workers to take over projects as they neared completion, but being close at hand to guide the junior workers. Scale breeds specialization, no reason to think that didn't happen at times in the past.

[@feedingravens]

Ein Geselle auf der Walz - schön, das zu sehen (good to see that journeyman)

[@Olfan]

Journeymen need to eat and sleep like most people, but the work they do is mostly to gain work experience, not riches. If you happen upon a journeyman carpenter on the street, do strike up a conversation. If they're currently free you might get them to build some awesome furniture for you that would otherwise be utterly unaffordable. It will still be costly (the do need to eat and sleep, plus the material and maybe some tools), but the outcome will be worthy of a nobleman: real handicraft, richly decorated, and built to measure to fit your exact needs. This is a wonderful tradition, it brings people together, gives the young carpenters plenty of opportunity to learn what people want and how to build it, and some happy people get to own (almost) priceless masterpieces of furniture.

[@lazarlazarevic5053]

I have to say youre probably one of my favourite KZbinrs. I have literally watch every single video of yours. I particularly like your random war stories, you know one of those 50 minute videos you make but somehow make it interesting the whole time. I hope you can make more of those.

[@Wintermute909]

He's truly one of the greats!

[@patrickmurphy565]

Lindy looks much more efficient with his hammering compared to his sword forging, awesome watching him improve his craft!

[@DerMacko]

i'd say he might be hitting it harder, so moar muscles have built up over time... there are some blacksmiths on youtube and the older they get their arms become more and more like tree trunks. there is an episode of Time Team where they're digging up an old royal armory site next to a river (thames prolly), and the presenter Tony Robinson gets to have a go at hammering a breast plate. His blows were like tink tink and nothing much happened, the old smith was visibly fighting between tears and laughter and encouraged him to hit it like he really meant it. Alas for naugth. When the pro finally took it over to show how it was meant to be done, it was liek thunk thunk and the plate bent like a piece of paper. :D edit oh sorry, Sir Tony Robinson. it's only been what 10 years? :P

[@TheFeralcatz]

That journeyman thing is so awesome. I love that that guy is keeping it alive. What a king.

[@savagex466-qt1io]

This guy always cheers me up. Just a up beat guy that enjoys his craft of teaching and learning. I use to watch the History channel when I was a kid when I liked it. Now I dont watch TV .. I just watch certians I like on youtube. I think alot of people are doing that these days regardless of price.

[@TheOneMCXtra]

When I've been younger, I once made an arrowhead using a rusty pipe I had laying around. Heated it in a normal campfire in the garden and shaped it using a normal hammer. Actually worked quite well. In the end made it a little sharper using a grinder.

[@gaetano_kojj]

Did you use it?

[@TheOneMCXtra]

I was maybe ten or so and was just doing it for the fun of working with the materials. I mounted it against a very soft stick, I think it was hazel wood, as we had a hazel tree in our garden. Also made a simple bow from the same tree. And then tried shooting against some planks. So nothing really special :D But I had a lot of fun experimenting around and seeing the result at the end, when it finally worked. There were no internet with guides during that time.

[@VincentGonzalezVeg]

@@TheOneMCXtra so I reccomend you learn how to make vertical crossbows as bows themselves have had evidence of modifying the shape of archers skeletons I have a safety cert for archery at a park where they have targets and rental bows/arrows So you can still make bows, arrows, there are removable parts to the arrow you can make so it's modular tool, different shaft lengths I'm going to look at using non-lead pellet guns pressurized by CO2 Marksmanship is one of the things that set us apart from other similar animals We can throw like few others, with an astounding accuracy, like the yoyo as a blunt hunting object We could have baseball players throw pellets or balls to hunt Like we were persevere in hunters people could have just picked up rocks and kept on pelting whatever it is we are going to have for lunch While exhausting the prey, now we can throw even better Also for more backyard fun a Dakota firehole burns with less smoke The army survival manual is something that I received around teenage years, there's plenty worth enjoying in hunting, marksmanship, trapping, it's pretty rad If you want to view Paradise simply look around & view it

[@philhawley1219]

Careful,you'll have someone's eye out with that

[@andreweden9405]

I have a rondel dagger by Leo "Tod" Todeschini. It also has a triangular cross-section blade, but it's point is even pointier than that one's, being almost needle-sharp. It's meant to deal with armored opponents, as well as stabbing people through the brain, face, etc. It's based on an original that currently lives in the Royal Armoury at Leeds.

[@Charok1]

Funny how Lloyd doesn't like the dagger because it's made to kill people, but so are every single sword and other weapons made to kill people. sheesh.

[@markstokes3685]

Not really "funny" or surprising. Lindy considers himself a gentleman, and it would generally be such or better wearing full plate armour, I reckon that's wht he got squeamish. Though not as much as if discussing ; 200 years together. One of Solz' books that can still get you in trouble. Lol

[@anthonyoer4778]

@@markstokes3685 yes, but lindy must understand, it was used against...the French!

[@joshbored15]

@@Charok1 I think the core of it is that the killing is the sole objective of the weapon. Swords, spears, halberds etc aim to incapacitate an opponent with killing just being an effective means. the triangular blade of the rondel makes the wounds caused by it hard to effectivley medicate and the blood loss very severe so any incapactitating wound it causes will almost always kill

[@gideonmele1556]

@@joshbored15 definitely. In battle incapacitated foes can be more beneficial as his allies will try to get him out (plus you could take them prisoner) or really just get them out of the fight overall. A rondel dagger? That just screws people up right well. At least with a sword or axe you could cut with them, blunt weapons you could (very) crudely hammer or batter things together or apart, even a spear or halberd you could use to reach things (or hunt boars), a rondel has practically no defensive ability and so oddly shaped to cause difficult wounds that it’s really just to kill people in a rather bloody fashion. It has a vicious intent and vile cunning to it

[@Axonteer]

Ah a Journeyman, my dad did the journey once himself (he was a Carpenter by trade)... And he continued the tradition once he had his own company to give Journeyman's passing trough our town a dayjob or two, back then, there was always something to do that required an additional pair of hands. Even when he had 15+ employees. In Switzerland you still see these chap's here and there traveling trough the countryside. The only people i give a lift if i see them asking for one. There are Organisations though. I just found one for example "Vereinigung rechtschaffener fremder Zimmer-und Schieferdeckergesellen Deutschlands".

[@oz_jones]

Cool!

[@larsbuker6147]

​@@oz_jones There _are_ organizations, yes, of varying sizes (there are eight such organizations at the moment, the one you mentioned included) and varying age (the youngest ones were founded in the 1980s, the oldest ones claim lineage back to the 1400s). Those are not for hiring or contacting journeymen, though. Instead, they are more like clubs that maintain and pass on traditions, and the offer a support network in the form of contacts and sometimes journeyman-specific inns. They are generally run by people who were journeymen themselves and are exclusive in their membership - if you are a member of one, you cannout be a member of another. Think of them rather as social clubs formed by university graduates, or the kind of fraternities and lodges and whatnot that are popular in american media, than trade unions. If you are a member, you are expected to adhere to certain traditions and customs beyond those typical for other journeymen (think of secret handshakes or passphrases in college fraternities), share a certain kind of kinship with other members of that club you might meet on the road (again, similar to fraternities) and can expect a degree of appreciation and support by tradesmen that have settled down and belong to the same club (again, similar to college fraternities). They are, however, quite explicit about not being an agency for hiring or contactinig active journeymen. If you want to hire one, you quite literally have to pick one off the streets, or hope to be contacted by one. They are very pro-active in their search for work. Your best chance might be to leave a note at a local bar or pub that is popular with travelling journeymen that you are offering work. Journeymen also traditionally visit the mayors office when they come to a town they want to work in, so perhaps you might be able to post such an offer at your local town hall.

[@bufordhighwater9872]

This is perhaps the most compelling endorsement of The Gulag Archipelago I've ever witnessed, regardless of forge.

[@philrobson2528]

can't believe anyone with an open mind has not read Gulag Archipelago

[@thepablorz]

@@philrobson2528 shockingly it turns out not everyone has read everything.

[@janon5815]

@@gupler Tankie tankie, why so cranky? Is your bad mood because you don't have any food?

[@ilyaleytes1611]

@@gupler it could be debated how much Solzhenitsyn experienced himself, but to say that most of it was fiction is ridiculous. The camps were there, the conditions in them were at least as bad as the book describes. There were winters in Magadan where 80% of the prisoners died from hunger, cold, and over work. It is a fact that millions died in Soviet Gulags.

[@jamescampos8128]

The indent in the arrow head is very important! If you made an arrow that was just a smooth cone of metal there would be a lot more friction resistance on entry to, say, a very angry man in armor charging at you which could result in him just being very angry and lightly wounded instead of very angry and incapacitated.

[@Colonel_Overkill]

Regardless he still ends up as a Scottish priest. Very angry and unquestionably holy. Irish family, I am obliged to make fun of scots lol.

[@recognizesealand572]

Came as fast as I could. I love all these topics I never would have thought to check out.

[@Scrubti]

Very interesting! As I am blacksmithing myself an Arrowhead is on my list of items to make. Even as a german I'm one of the few people in my generation, that know about the "Walz". Only due to my father always giving "Journeyman" a lift and so should you! It's a upright amazing tradition and those who do it, have all of my respect. Furthermore, whatever they work on, it's always exceptional in quality! And in those trying times, where everyone is only concerned about themselves, it reminds us of helping each other out.

[@TheMeatMan]

Thankyou for promoting that book Lindy, in my opinion it is one of the most important books that I think needs to be read by as many people as possible in this current political climate. Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn was a very wise man.

[@somefool4625]

Lindy is one of the few tubers who makes even the sponsor bits interesting.

[@Octolio]

Oh Lindybeige, if there weren't digressions I would be worried!

[@fredbloggs5902]

What became of the Hannibal graphic novel project?

[@charliecharliewhiskey9403]

5 years and 8 months by my count since it was announced, with the most recent update by the artist 11 months ago. Kinda sad about it.

[@arnthedragonborn8306]

I wonder how the armor is doing, I would love to see a video of it!

[@anonnymousperson]

Lindybeige. Come for the subject. Stay for the digressions.

[@AllieStrange]

The bit with the journeyman was really cool, i love that he and others are keeping that old tradition alive.

[@RoverIAC]

a forged arrow head, hmmm, looks like a real one to me.

[@JohnMoore-qv4vn]

Ha Ha Ha ... good one, centurion!

[@FallenAnvilForge]

As a blacksmith, I applaud you on taking the class and learning a bit. The arrow head is not one of the easiest things for a beginner to learn, you did really well. And yes, we are kind of noisy. lol

[@forkliftwizard]

Love this man. The only tuber I don't skip through ad spots for. I'd probably watch Lindy do laundry. Wait, I have. Shirts.

[@keithstares]

I love what you do sir! As a history buff and knowledge addict myself I can't help but admire the masterly display of a powerful autodidact in full flow, showing full command of a simply staggering knowledge base and that passion for learning that drives you onward! It's a privilege to watch sir, I thank you for your time and effort making these videos!

[@therealpianofairy]

I demand more digressions, dammit. Half of the reason I watch Lindy is for his digressions.

[@michelguevara151]

well, the jouneyman was a digression by proxi, I'm sure that counts.

[@ComfyDents]

I stopped counting the topics. :'D arrowhead journeyman Dagger Gulag Jordan B. Peterso ...

[@GoodandBasic]

This is awesome! Loved all the digressions, and fantastic book to recommend! The Gulag Archipelago shook the world, and, if we're lucky, it will continue to shake the world away from the authoritarian nightmares of the 20th century.

[@philhawley1219]

Not if Putin has his way.

[@aapjeaaron]

Lloyd : If you're good you should be able to make an arrow head in about 4 or 5 heats. Meanwhile Alec steele: What's pretty crazy to consider, if you where making arrowheads in medieval times. You'd probably need to make the entire thing in 1 or 2 heats.

[@tri-seeker2753]

An engineering POV to the waist thing: It is very convenient grasp point. Possibly for attaching to the arrow (string can be tighten around) or possibly to ease "mass production" of arrowhead itself. If you're blacksmith and it is your duty to make a pile of these for upcoming war, you can make some specialized tools to grasp piece of metal in said waist, few bangs for pointy end, few bangs hollow end, piece done, next. Something like Lindy showed earlier for coins, just way less fine :-) I see it very unlikely, that they started with 8mm rod of handy lenght back then, so manufacturing process was probably different. Also, once you are set to make pile of these, you can't afford to spend half of hour with each piece

[@brokenpotato438]

its crazy to think how much work it takes to make a single arrow head. Even for an experienced blacksmith. Im surprised there were enough arrows being produced to equip a whole military at all during medieval times when they didnt have any automated machinery to produce them and had to do it all by hand

[@symmetrie_bruch]

agreed i mean there´s a reason smith or the local equivalent is one of the most common surnames in almost every language and in wartimes you would have plenty of workforce to turn to but still. it´s hard to believe that there wasn´t a faster way

[@ve2vfd]

Completely guessing here, but I would assume a blacksmith's apprentices probably spent a LOT of time making arrowheads.

[@eduardopupucon]

They would make them in batches, in a single rod multiple arrowheads

[@henrikoldcorn]

I have read that armies roaming around southern France in the Hundred Years War might have something on the order of a million arrows with them. With 10,000 archers that’s perhaps 100 each.

[@coryman125]

Would be interesting to know what measures they had to deal with that. Presumably they would just constantly be churning them out, even when there were no wars actively going? And I would imagine that arrows were recovered after a battle, maybe fixed up a bit if need be, and reused?

[@garrettbrigman5586]

Another great video from the best history KZbinr on the platform

[@legacyShredder1]

I feel like its 7 years late on a certain sword video.

[@aaronyoung8301]

Just saying this to get it out there, being a (hobbiest) smith myself: when holding the hammer, wear something thin on the hand, preferably a fingerless glove or just go bare handed; it'll give you a more secure grip thus more control and less effort wasted. This gloves do prevent burns, but you didn't seem to have much slag on your steel, so there's not much that could hurt you. Technique and accuracy are there, it's just more the hand further down the handle (half or 3/4-ish mark is ideal) and swing like the steel owes you money. Or just grab a bigger hammer if all fails; after a while, you'll get warmed up (sorry for pun) and the smaller one will feel lighter and will most faster. Aim fo get the hammer over your head and still be able to hit a small imaginary coin. It seems silly, but all this will help with Strength and accuracy, this the metal will move much quicker, needing less heats. Tiny delicate stuff is understandable to choke up on the handle, but still hit like you want to go through the steel. Nice start, just refine and aim for moving the steel rather than massaging it. Treat it like a Punching bag, not a sparring partner.

[@eck0hcobra15]

Great insight, thanks for commenting

[@johnladuke6475]

I'm not even a smith, but I also had to stop and say that he needs to hit it like it owes him money.

[@AdamOwenBrowning]

I love this comment. There is care and a respect of future skills, and also, beat that motherfucker like it owes you money, use big hammer so ur puny little arms eventually find the smaller hammer light. hahaha

[@OldNew45]

I'm a farrier, and we used to try to do a "two heat shoe". That's completing a horseshoe (punched) in two heats. It is not easy. At one point, I could easily work two shoes at the same time, one in the forge while working the other, then switch. So about the technique...... you are correct about the glove on your hammer hand. I would also recommend extending your thumb. It helps with indexing your hammer. As far as the hammer and hammering, if you need to choke up on it that much, your hammer is too heavy. If you need to hit it like it owes you money, your hammer is too small. The rule of thumb-ish is to put the head of your hammer in your hand, make a 90° angle with your arm, and the end of the handle should just touch your bicep. Swing from your shoulder, with a little elbow, and pretty much no wrist. This brings me to anvil height, which is crucial if you'll be working there for good bits of time. Again, the rule of thumb-ish is: stand up straight, hammer in hand with the handle parallel to the floor. The face of your hammer should be at the level of the face of your anvil. I've found both measuring methods to be accurate enough, though I'd rather just have a nub of hammer handle sticking out than cut all my hammers short. Anvil height will come to you with experience. I will say to ensure that you bend at the waist, and not hunch your back. Good luck to all. Hope this proves useful.

[@repeatdefender6032]

I’m so fascinated by this journeyman, I wasn’t aware of such a thing. The word has a different meaning in the US that’s nowhere near as fun.

[@ande100]

] grew up with journeyman as we had a saw mill and wood yard nearby. They also did roof constructions etc. Wonderful young men full of energy and zest for life. His pragmatism is telling and honest. Steeped in traditions and unspoken rules

[@ncisawesome]

Man I'm here early lmao, loving the first 20 seconds of the vid Lloyd!

[@RedK11]

Same guy

[@potus2582]

@@RedK11 same

[@ncisawesome]

@@RedK11 ayyy

[@hoplite6164]

with all the work that went into it, it makes me wonder how much time was spent after a battle or siege just walking around and collecting arrowheads. wouldnt want to wast that precious iron or steel

[@AndyJarman]

Like the way Lloyds whole body bobs up and down when using the hammer. REAL effort there Mr Beige.

[@spankflaps1365]

“Send in the Irish. Arrows cost money, the dead cost nothing.” (Longshanks, Braveheart)

[@FullMonterey]

Hannibal

[@smithjohn383]

Nobody comes even close to Lindybeige on making those sponsor parts entertaining. I always forget that we're in the middle of an ad. Although apparently so does he. It almost makes me feel sorry that I hate audiobooks.

[@killerguppy2988]

You're one of the few KZbinrs that I'll actually sit through and listen to the adverts for. You're just so dang entertaining. And every now and then, I find something new I'm interested in purchasing...

[@Angrypolack]

Still searching for Hannibal.

[@Milamberinx]

I think you'll be searching for Hannibal for a very long time. Lloyd has his new house already and obviously feels no guilt about taking people's money for nothing.

[@charliecharliewhiskey9403]

You've been on that journey for 5 years and 8 months I believe? Or about one third as long as the actual second Punic War.

[@Brave_Sir_Robin]

@@Milamberinx the money is locked away, remaining unused until the book is out.

[@Angrypolack]

@@Brave_Sir_Robin Call me a bit skeptical on that.

[@Brave_Sir_Robin]

@@Angrypolack right… regardless, you should be thankful this will even exist. He didn’t have to write a graphic novel.

[@ednac1626]

Some of the trades in the USA have journeymen, carpenters, electricians and bricklayers for sure. Its interesting to hear that some other countries have them too.

[@phillee2814]

Where do you think the USA acquired the idea? Most of the guilded trades had a similar system. Start as an apprentice, working under a master craftsman. That was (depending on the trade, ability and period) from 5 to 11 years, during which you worked merely for your keep, and were bound (indentured) to that master craftsman. When you had proven yourself capable of producing work to his satisfaction consistently (and in some trades, producing a test work which other masters had to sign off on), you were free of indenture and became a journeyman - able to travel and earn a living, but not allowed to supervise others and certainly not take any apprentices. Following that, with minimum period varied by the same nature as being an apprentice, you could submit work to the guild to have it appraised and if it passed scrutiny, became a master craftsman yourself, and could take on apprentices and supervise works. My great grandfather was a master cabinet maker and my grandfather a master french-polisher. I'm in no position to say how good he was, but he was commissioned to restore some pieces in Windsor Castle before HM Queen Elizabeth II took up residence there, so he must have been highly regarded among his peers. He worked from home (a workshop in his back garden) and I'll never forget the exotic smell of his workshop. Every french polisher back then had their own range of stains, lacquers and polishes, which they mixed themself and were a closely guarded secret. A lot of the time in apprenticeship was spent learning and experimenting to create your own range of finishes.

[@ednac1626]

That must have been lovely to be around those things!

[@Getpojke]

@@phillee2814 Its a wonderful smell isn't it. I had a great Uncle who I loved visiting as a child. He lived in an old toll house that could've doubled as a hobbit house, rough plaster walls, low ceilings, polished wood everywhere. He was a retired cabinet maker & the smells of the polish & pipe tobacco mingled with the open fires in all the rooms. such a comforting scent. I remember being excited as we'd heard he had just purchased a television [we didn't have one at home]. When we arrived there was no sign of it, but there was a new cabinet. He'd thought the television looked ugly so had built a beautiful cabinet to store it in when not in use. The wood & inlays looked like a burnished conker as it was already so highly polished. A brilliant craftsman. Oddly when he died the big grandfather clock that he'd built when younger stopped working & even my father who was something of a horologist couldn't get it working again. You must've enjoyed visiting your great grandfather.

[@phillee2814]

@@Getpojke Unfortunately I missed on great grandfather, but grandfather's workshop smelled incredible - an exotic aroma of turpentine, beeswax, several different natural oils, spirits and some other things (I've no idea what a lac beetle smells like, but he ground the wing cases himself for his lacquer, so that must've been in the mix) like some of the things he used to dye his stains - all hand-compounded by him. I was only allowed to stand at the door and look in, so although he'd retired almost completely, he clearly had enough of the raw materials around that might have been things you don't generally expose children to. I did see some of great grandfather's work, and it was absolutely lovely. The only thing I have of his is the violin he bought, broken, in a bric-a-brac shop as an apprentice so that he could teach himself to play - that would have been in about 1870ish, and of course, it was old then. He repaired it himself (no problem with cabinetry skills - some luthiers have looked at it since and can't identify what he repaired!) but was unaware of the value of the label and it was lost in the repair, so we can't identify the original maker. We know from the style it is German and has an amazing tone. It must have been good for it to be in the bric-a-brac shop instead of the fire - someone clearly thought it high enough quality to be worth saving but couldn't afford to have it done themself - may be from the estate of the original owner? We'll never know its history prior to great grandfather's acquisition of it about 150 years ago. It needs a better player than I am (or in all honesty, probably ever was) to make proper use of it. Master craftsmen tended to marry late, as they are not allowed to as an apprentice, and life on the road as a journeyman is more for the single man. Only when gaining mastery can they settle down, open a business, and support a family.

[@Getpojke]

@@phillee2814 Thanks for the reply, its lovely to hear these reminiscences of people & skills gone that have gone by now. I can quite happily just watch a craftsperson at work, be it with wood, metal, stone or food. Just amazing to watch. The blood, sweat & tears that they put in produced superior products & I find a lot of modern furniture quite bland & ugly by comparison. I was luckily allowed into his workshop so I could properly see what he was doing, but had been brought up to not touch unless I was told i could. He's sometimes give me a little off-cut to practice finishing or polishing & I still love the tactile nature of wood to this day. [I became a forester & used to do wood-turning as a hobby] I have a friend that hurt his back a few years back & took up leather work to keep his hands busy while laid up. Now he has a thriving commission business, makes museum pieces & teaches others. Lovely workshop & the first time I went in some of those familiar smells of oils & polishes just transported me back to being a kid again. One of those "madeleine de Proust" moments. Lovely having the violin still. A great piece to pass on through the family. Sounds like you cherish it very much. I have a couple of my great grandfathers apprentice pieces, he was one of many blacksmiths in the family. One of them is a telescopic toasting fork & the other is a miniature horse drawn plough. No real financial value to anyone but it's great having that physical connection down the generations.

[@tonnywildweasel8138]

My grandfather was a blacksmith for much of his life. Love these kind of vids. Greets from the Netherlands 🌷, T.

[@ryans6582]

I love to see the development of you using the forge and the hammer from previous videos! Another great job!

[@glennmartin6492]

When forging a taper think about the angle you want on the taper. Hold the piece at an angle to the anvil face that is half of the angle. That way the hammer is forming one face while the anvil forms the opposite. Don't worry. I'm sure you'll have it down after the first hundred or so.

[@thraxhunter1450]

Have you ever forged a fire arrow? Nevermind, you wouldn't get the point.

[@calencrawford2195]

LOOOOOOOOOOL

[@naradaian]

He proved a longtime back that fire arrows did not work

[@jeremiaas15]

Outside of the smithy there should be a heard of Frenchmen peacefully grazing on garlic kept for testing purposes.

[@lukebrennan5780]

LOVE to see a proper German journeyman! I saw one at the very bottom of Tasmania years ago, to my amazement. and also I saw a proper (I think) chimney guy in traditional gear, when travelling in Germany. LOVE the blacksmithing. This is a fascinating video.

[@Alex-cw3rz]

2:22 they were a lot more advanced than I thought I never knew angle grinders were around back then

[@Atanar89]

If you are not good at smithing, you need to be good at grinding.

[@raycar1165]

Oh yeah, the tartarian's even had a cordless model... XD

[@michelguevara151]

@@Atanar89 as a former smith, I concur. a good smith polishes, never grinds.

[@book3100]

Good stuff. Always great entertainment and information.

[@FPSunderscoreSam]

Please keep making these, Mr beige. I truly do love your content.

[@p0xus]

Ive been wanting a new Lindybeige video for about a week now. Was pretty happy when this poped up on my feed, not gonna lie.

[@thekurgan1580]

Hope u well another great educational and fun video 👍🏻

[@MrCheezeNip]

After reading 1984, I read the gulag archipelago. The torture depicted in 1984 did not come close to how terrifying the atrocities committed in these "labor camps'. Definitely worth a read or a listen on audible if you are feeling up to it.

[@edwardblomstrand7203]

Excellent! Your digressions are the best!

[@Vazlist]

I'm always up for some Lindybeige-digressions

[@amberfuller16]

ah I always love his videos honestly always so interesting

[@jh1859]

That helmet looks a little tight on you, Lindy. There doesn't seem to be enough room for a padded head gear and possibly chain mail somehow. That forging authentic weapons looks like a heck of a lot of fun, ol' chap.

[@gigproductions887]

under a helm like this no "padded headgear" would be worn

[@jh1859]

@@gigproductions887 You mean like on television :/

[@gigproductions887]

@@jh1859 No. i mean it like in the primary sources we have no evidence for "padded headgear" worn under such helms

[@montgomeryafton4980]

Yes! Another video

[@johnladuke6475]

Lloyd, if you want to take less heats, there's some simple advice I got when I worked in a rock quarry as a teenager. "Put down your purse and SWING THE HAMMER!!!" It's metal, not a teacup; hit the thing like it owes you money, not like you're afraid to break the iron rod.

[@SM-pv4sn]

Can confirm Gulag Archipelago is required reading for everyone. It's a life-changing book.

[@BensWorkshop]

The thing I find most interesting about watching people I presume are new to hammers is how little of the handle they use. I tend to hold them by the end, and if I want a lighter blow, I pick a smaller hammer. It makes more efficient use of the work available. I even went as far as buying a 48 Oz (3 Lb) ball pein hammer because it has a much longer handle than a club hammer. I can strike where I want at will with a big swing because I practised hammer work rapidly knocking long tails though a thin board and out again in one knock per nail. You have to get accurate to do that.

[@williamsohlstrom1530]

*cries in metric*

[@BensWorkshop]

@@williamsohlstrom1530 I will drink cups of your tears heretic! ;) Did yo watch his episode on currency where he went though the logic of 240 pennies to the pound?

[@williamsohlstrom1530]

@@BensWorkshop Yes, and I loved it. I can't recall much of now though. Most likely because I have learned that "haha decimals go brrrrrr" and that's where my cognitive functions end.

[@BensWorkshop]

@@williamsohlstrom1530 By the time my family moved back to the UK it was already decimal. It never occurred to me to wonder why the old system was a thing let alone wonder when and why. You do have to wonder how many systems are replaced with "better" systems because no one asked why the old system was in place in the first place.

[@mattigator600]

*listening to lindybeige talk about kgb during the sponsor* "oh no lloyd , you better be careful mentioning those lads" *looks at the screen and see he's wearing a protective helmet* "ah well carry on then"

[@JW-zx5dr]

Awesome, it’s an informative day when lindy uploads

[@Dee-nonamnamrson8718]

That isn't just for stabbing people... it would also be effective for stabbing any living thing. It would be perfect for finishing off a medieval boar hunt.

[@pegg00]

Expresses his displeasure with the roundel* Goes back to forging an arrowhead*

[@Zander10102]

While it would've worked, i would think a thinner blade would've done the job better. The thickness of the rondel dagger allows you to use it as a lever to wrench apart armor plates.

[@Milamberinx]

If your boar isn't finished you don't want to be so close to it that you can stab it with a rondel dagger.

[@Dee-nonamnamrson8718]

@@Zander10102 Boar skin is extremely thick, and you need a long, sturdy blade to reach the vital organs.

[@Atanar89]

@@pegg00 Stabbing people from a distance, much more civilized.

[@meaninglesscog]

Definitely going to try this at the next openforge at my local makerspace.

[@DIYPanda1]

Most hipster comment ever

[@meaninglesscog]

@@DIYPanda1 sorry that I do stuff

[@SonofsamSJF]

Thank you for the demonstration of the arrow head at the end. Very informative.

[@trainboy1739]

And when you least expect it Lendybeige posts a video, Huzzah!

[@shcrty5476]

every once in a while, i check on this channel to see if he has his armor...maybe one day

[@danielburgess7785]

Triangular cross-section blades on bayonets were outlawed in "civil warfare" during WWI due to how difficult the wounds were to heal. Infection and loss of a limb, or worse, was common in such wounds. A digression within a digression.

[@chernobly8728]

The perfect late viewing material during a blizzard. The more you know

[@spencerjones7809]

I really like this one, the back and forth of talking and forging made for a fun video

[@MalleusIudaeorum]

The triangle blade also makes it impossible for the wound to heal naturally so even if you survived initially, you would likely die of a horrible infection or some other nasty.

[@RupaCreations]

Amusingly I had a go at smithing last weekend and I seemed to be quite adept at making arrowheads... but considering my intention was actually to make a leaf ... unsure how much of a success that really is 😂

[@blackdeath4eternity]

lol , the two are not that far off, but best of luck in your leaf making adventures.

[@gullyfoyle2615]

Good gravy! Superb stuff Lindybeige!

[@ChauncyFatsack]

Awesome Lindy!

[@wolf06291980]

Triangle blade wounds are notoriously difficult to patch up. The blade is designed to open a gaping wound to promote the maximum blood-loss in the shortest time. I believe they're banned in modern warfare for that reason.

[@ambjornborjesson5481]

That makes no sense. A bullet isn't very flat either.

[@lordsimonicus3479]

I'm pretty sure the ban is just a myth

[@ambjornborjesson5481]

@@lordsimonicus3479 Yeah just like hollow points. There's no ban on JHP but rather dumdum bullets. A lot of militaries use JHP for pistols and fragmenting rounds for rifles.

[@wolf06291980]

@@ambjornborjesson5481 Many bullets are designed to do the same.

[@DeusGladiorum]

First

[@aforerunner1773]

Darn you

[@ISAYWORDS1]

So close

[@aDifferentJT]

I knew about Journeymen from the Harpers of Pern, it’s so cool to see that people still do it.

[@kungpochopedtuna]

Been hoping to see you back in the forge. Great vid

[@Aminuts2009]

Dear my goddess. GET THAT GLOVE OFF YOUR HAMMER HAND. You don't need it and it just makes it harder to hold the hammer. You will wear your arm out faster. Yes, I am a blacksmith and no, I do not play one on TV.

[@hernerweisenberg7052]

Worst thing about it is when the hot scale from your workpiece finds its way into the glove and really burns your hand good. Id rather have a thousand tiny burns from it hitting my hand and falling off then one big one from the glove pressing it against my skin^^

[@stocktonjoans]

Dude wrote a self help book and yet felt the best way to deal with his own problems was to abuse perscription med's, tells you all you need to know about peterson

[@lindybeige]

ALL you need to know, really?

[@stocktonjoans]

@@lindybeige no, you're right, people should know he's a right wing asshole too

[@Georgethenorthseatiger]

Lindy should get a regular tv slot on gb news or other channel. Just to talk about things that interest him. So many would watch.

[@dylanjhmorgan]

After watching this yesterday, I dreamt last night that the video wasn't even real but merely a recreation of events with actors. The Journeyman wasn't even German but just putting on the accent

[@Wolf-Rayet_Arthur]

The thing I find about Jordan Peterson is that he sounds eloquent and intelligent in his argumentation but then you watch him deliver a "sound bite" summary of his opinions in places such as KZbin videos or in TV interviews and they all sound like the arguments that a child might make when trying to deny his guilt to his parents. To me, therefore, Mr Peterson is nothing more than a pseudo intellectual with a talent for making denialism sound like rational debate. I can certainly see why people of a certain ideological persuasion would be drawn to him

[@thomasmills3934]

Jordan Peterson is no one anyone should spend anytime listening to. Unless they didnt have a dad growing up and really want him to teach them responsibility.

[@Le_Trouvere]

Cry more

[@janon5815]

Sneed

[@stevechopping3021]

Lindybeige even the adverts are interesting. Also I have not heard the expletive "Drat" since I stopped reading the Beano 40 years ago well done never stop being you..

[@bunyslayer]

Always love seeing your new content, I want to get into blacksmithing but I doubt my neighbors would enjoy it as much as I will.