Forging the Stave Church Door Handle - part 2

[@mattthescreamer177]

Still the best blacksmithing videos on KZbin, hands down no question.

[@johnjude2685]

Bob punch. Seems like you have me a new needed tool. That's the way you teach and you are the best teacher. Only wish you had started me at age 10 . You have helped in many ways Thank you Sir

[@Alanbataar]

Hello John. I enjoyed the series quite a bit. Nice challenging project. Thank you! Regarding the brazing of the rings, I do a lot of fab work using TIG, and often come across the small/light to big/heavy problem you mentioned. I often preheat the big parts in my forge until they *just* begin to glow (i.e. well before they develop scale) then bring the big part to the welding bench where it will meet up with the smaller parts and everything gets welded together. It winds up being easier, and less nerve-wracking.

[@wayneheitz8390]

Have a wonderful day and week. Thank you. 🤞🙏👏👏

[@threeriversforge1997]

Pine Tar was once the preferred preservative for wood because it has natural anti-microbial things in it. You might have heard it called "Stockholm Tar" and it's famed use on ships. As a blacksmith, it's the only thing I use on my hammer handles and tools for around the homestead. You can thin it out by adding Genuine Turpentine. Interestingly, turpentine is also a product of the pine tree and actually comes from the same process used to make Pine Tar. You can make a similar tar from the birch trees that's great for preserving leather. If you research "Marlinspike Seamanship", something every blacksmith should have a good understanding of, you'll see Pine Tar or Stockholm Tar mentioned regularly because it's used to preserve natural-fiber cordage. Thinning it down allows it to go a longer way, which is nice considering the expense of the stuff. Nautical folks often mix it with boiled linseed oil and shellac flakes to make a concoction to keep their pretty boats looking pretty. I know a lot of the blacksmith literature talks about boiled linseed oil for tool handles, but once you try Pine Tar, you'll never go back to linseed oil. Glad to see the Tar getting some exposure here on the BBF channel. Keep up the great work, John.

[@douglasfathers4848]

That turned out Beautiful John , Thank you for sharing . 😍👍👌🤠

[@BlackBearForge]

Glad you enjoyed it

[@Bangalangs]

The beauty of working as a blacksmith is that, with proper care, your work will probably outlive you. Another excellent video sir. I’m eager to get my hands on a smithin’ magician.

[@BlackBearForge]

Thanks 👍

[@sirkai007]

Pine tar is such a cool finish!

[@expertoflizardcorrugation3967]

Ill always appreciate the difference in sound produced by metals of different temperatures. My favourite being the soft ringing you can hear at around 6:20 Also each and every time the angle grinder was used I found it unreasonably funny for some inexplicable reason.

[@1956vern]

Looks good 😊

[@multicoloredwiz]

Really appreciate you showing the works from the church! Very cool chandeliers and decorative hinges! The final result was gorgeous!!!

[@Aco747lyte]

Molly and I thank you for the wonderful church door handle you forged. Molly is glad your pine tar worked, because the last time she used it on a project, she said "it was a mother and father to remove". I can imagine! 🤭

[@BlackBearForge]

After baking in the oven it came out as a very nice finish, I'll certainly be using it some more

[@Alanbataar]

I believe gasoline will dissolve pine tar.

[@Aco747lyte]

@@Alanbataar Yes, likely.

[@larryjones4713]

Enjoyed watching complex job. I love learning from you

[@frankgaletzka8477]

Hello John Thank you for the Video. I learned everytime i watch you working. It is wonderfull. The Cross looks very good . I like the Symbol . GOD bless have a good week Yours Frank Galetzka

[@FallenAnvilForge]

Came out pretty good John. 👍

[@jeremiahmccutcheon3234]

Wow I wish I lived out there I love your videos

[@jeffgrier8488]

Hice work John, that cross turned out great! I never would have thought about pine tar for a finish though.

[@BlackBearForge]

Glad you enjoyed it

[@mountainwolf1]

Very beautiful work john thanks for sharing your hard work with us.

[@rlgroshans]

Another great project to inspire us all! Thank you John!!

[@taironus]

beautiful work! i actually just started collecting pine tar as a cover material for cabin iron work. of course i have 4 spruce and just sawed up for lumber so i have a couple lbs sitting in a tin waiting to get put to use!

[@BigWillSD]

Beautiful

[@DavidLee-pp4bg]

Amazing. Absolutely amazing. Ty sir

[@olddawgdreaming5715]

That turned out awesome John. Enjoyed the video very much. Thanks for sharing with us. Fred.

[@BlackBearForge]

Thanks for watching

[@thorodinson1843]

I really in joy your videos they are very helpful when im trying to make something

[@FeatherHorseforge]

Hello john pine tar is used for keeping moisture in the wall of a horses hooves thanks for the thought of using it to finish projects

[@glencrandall7051]

Nice piece of work. Thank you for sharing. Have a great day and stay safe.🙂🙂

[@Malfeasance455]

You might try your local ski shop. Traditional cross country skis, (wood), use pine tar as a base for the wax. Not that there are a lot of wood Xcountry skis still around but maybe worth a shot.

[@DavidKirwanirl]

Gorgeous work 😍

[@etanshaun1222]

Great job, I enjoy your vidéo! Thanks

[@swblacksmith.7445]

hi John, I've relly enjoyed this project and if you decide the forge the more ornate door pull i'd be keen to watch that video series too. thanks for sharing..

[@1924ab]

Beautiful work John, thanks for sharing.

[@SchysCraftCo.]

John amazing video today. It's turned out very unique and beautiful design project for the door ringer. Can't wait to see more videos soon my friend. Keep up the great craftsmanship and hard work my friend. Forge On. Fab On. Weld On. Keep Making. God Bless.

[@BlackBearForge]

Thanks 👍

[@SchysCraftCo.]

@@BlackBearForge your welcome

[@patshes1951]

Very cool to see this!

[@MrDukaman]

Morning my friend. What a great project. Really nice. I too have used pine tar as a finish I do apply it hot just like wax. But it does leave a nice glossy black finish. I am only able to fine pine tar at tractor supply but I’m also located is NJ Thanks for sharing awesome work like always. …..Paul. 🔥⚒🇺🇸

[@BlackBearForge]

I just found some meant for wood. I'll do a video on it once it arrives.

[@jeanpomerleau8416]

pretty awesome

[@danbreyfogle8486]

That turned out great and I agree the smaller diameter handle looks much better

[@davidleonel5033]

Love your videos thank you for the content

[@RRINTHESHOP]

Nice project John, enjoyed. Perhaps just brazing from the back would of been better to control the braze. Thanks for sharing the project.

[@BlackBearForge]

Probably, but hard to keep the rings flush with the back since they weren't the same thickness

[@MrGiXxEr]

I'd love to see more videos on using pine tar as a finish for metal. There isn't much out there.

[@robsonsantosOSO]

Where is the boundary between the blacksmith and the plastic artist? Imagine now that this piece will be in sight and possibly still in use even after we are all gone. 🤔 It's something to think about. Thanks for showing this project too.

[@paulfarley454]

In the wooden boat world, Stockholm tar from Sweden is used in boat finishing and rigging . The stuff has a surprisingly wonderful smell way different than the Equestrian equivalent, but spendy! Great work John!

[@keithsharratt3402]

I've had success using boiled linseed oil and mineral spirits for sealing rusted surfaces. I wonder how it might work on this nice piece you've made here.

[@armageddontools]

Could you show us the mechanism and how it works of the hammer at 4:40? I dont know if you already did in some previous video. It looks like a simple tool and usefull to make. I dont need plans or anything i am good at improvising i am just curious how mechanism works -also whats it name? Thanks ! PS .that cross handle looks AWESOME ! Keep up the good work you do !

[@BlackBearForge]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/j362nZqhjtB5f8k

[@armageddontools]

@@BlackBearForge Amazing machine thank you !

[@dirkventer8112]

Hi John great content keep it coming pls.👍 still need some advice/guidens in regards on cold chisel your knowledge is highly regarded by myself and i think it would be great to cover something like this if its something that you have not covered yet as i live in South Africa blacksmithing is not as big as it is in USA by you guys regards Dirk

[@y-notforge8913]

try this video- kzbin.info/www/bejne/qqG2gWVrm7Z4q6M

[@paulorchard7960]

Nice work John, the lesser ring is better! The pine tar would be a bugger to remove if didnt work! Looks good though, I like it!👍

[@strangeblacksmith]

Talking about the finishing, I'm wondering if Japanning would have been used on some period pieces.

[@argentummolonlabe]

I've always used beeswax for a finish. Heat the piece to where the wax will burn on to a black finish. Great even semi gloss finish and water proof.

[@albertoarrigoni6724]

Good Evening Mr.Switzer! Pine Tar is used to keep horses hoof waterproof (i m a professional Farrier). I ve never heard about using it as a finish. Really inrteresting! Probably in the past there wasn't other stuff available (i guess bees wax was too precious). What about the final result? Still sticky smally and dirty or better after backing? Thank you a lot from Italy! I will wait you on holiday here asap! Whe have lot of anciant ironworks to inspire whith :)

[@threeriversforge1997]

Pine tar was once worth it's weight in gold because it's such a good preservative for wood and natural-fiber ropes. The navies of olden times went to great lengths, even wars, to make sure they had good "Stockholm Tar" available. The same anti-microbial action that makes it good for hooves and poultices also makes it good for keeping wood healthy. There's nothing better to use on your tool handles. You can thin it down with Turpentine to make it lighter, soak in better.

[@albertoarrigoni6724]

@@threeriversforge1997 thank you a lot! Lots of inrteresting infos! I will definitely try!

[@threeriversforge1997]

@@albertoarrigoni6724 If you haven't seen Eugenio's channel, I highly recommend it. He's documenting a lot of the old skills as they were once practiced in the Mediterranean countries. Here's one he did on how they used to make Pine Tar. While it's in Spain, I'm quite sure the same techniques would have been familiar to people in Italy and Greece. It looks almost identical to how they did it in Finland and Sweden except it's coming out rock hard. kzbin.info/www/bejne/jafSdaaZnrSsgcU Mikko Snellman shows how to make pine tar on a smaller scale, something you can easily do in your own back yard. His videos are always a joy to watch, imo, and really show you how much we've let slip by over the years! Here's a good vid that also has a bit of the history - kzbin.info/www/bejne/eKDVfqt9rtqfi7s

[@landroveraddict2457]

There is a cold blue treatment for brass, it turns brass black. Fantastic video :)

[@BlackBearForge]

Thanks, I'll look into it for future projects

[@threeriversforge1997]

@@BlackBearForge Cold Blue can be found at any hunting supply store. A little dab of the stuff blackens brass and copper. Great way to age the material. I also use it to blacken galvanized screws when I don't want to go through the bother of stripping the plating off.

[@deryiousbarzee627]

Good morning

[@BlackBearForge]

Morning

[@davidsellars646]

Instead of brazing, perhaps gas welding from the back using a very thin filler rod and minimal heat on the rings. I like the finish product.

[@BlackBearForge]

Possibly, I just wasn't sure how I would keep everything lined up from the back side since the rings are so much thinner than the cross material at that point

[@JarlSeamus]

I know pine and birch tar were widely used in the early Medieval period as adhesives, sealants, and finishes, but I've never thought about using it as a rust protectant. After baking (how long and at what temperature) how did that come out? Visually it looks great, but how does it feel?

[@BlackBearForge]

I did 2 hours at 350 and it was still a little sticky a few days later I did another 2 hours at 250 and it is dry and hard. I'll experiment more and do a video on the topic.

[@JarlSeamus]

@@BlackBearForge Thanks John! I'll be looking forward to that. It's cool how one project can lead straight into a whole other topic.

[@brittinghammerforge9441]

After you baked the pine tar on was it sticky? I’m always looking for new finishes to try on my outdoor pieces.

[@BlackBearForge]

After 2 hours at 350 it was a little sticky. The next day I did another 2 hours at 250 and it was good and hard

[@brittinghammerforge9441]

@@BlackBearForge excellent. I will have to invest in some of that pine tar.

[@sheepdog1550]

Something I’m not sure you’ve made but could you do a Japanese dog head hammer? I remember in a former video you were making a hammer and talked about balance between face and peen, the dog head hammer looks vary unbalanced but yet the Japanese blacksmiths seem to do great work

[@billssmithy7352]

New Guy Question: Rather than coal dust, would charcoal dust help prevent the punch from sticking? Charcoal is all I can afford at this time.

[@BlackBearForge]

I've never tried it, but give it a try and see.

[@Damoinion]

I think you may have got a better result with your brazing using a thinner filler rod and a dip flux, rather than preflux rods

[@stevenolan7972]

Your pressure was too high for brazing need to turn your oxygen and acetylene down.